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Brisbane's Cross River Rail Explained | Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos 

Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos
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Brisbane's Cross River Rail infrastructure project has seemingly been under construction or in the proposal stage for decades. Whether it was the original idea, or the BaT Tunnel (Bus and Train Tunnel) or the currently under construction project. So we wanted to actually have a look at what is actually happening with Brisbane's new rail line, the construction progress of the underground metro tunnels, how it will connect with the Brisbane metro bus rapid transport project and whether this will actually have any benefits for the people of Brisbane.
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00:00 Introduction
00:54 What is the Cross River Rail?
01:21 New and Upgraded Train Stations
02:36 The Construction Process
04:09 Brisbane's First Railway Lines
04:37 The River Crossings
06:11 Cross River Rail Proposals
07:00 The Benefits: A Better Commute
07:43 The Benefits: A More Reliable Network
08:01 The Benefits: Connected Suburban Precincts
09:53 The Broken Airport to Gold Coast Direct Line
11:37 What do you think?
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@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
If you think that Cross River Rail and Brisbane Metro is all we need for the Olympics then ur wrong. We need a lot more than just that
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 8 месяцев назад
The outer suburbs- and defiantly northside- are sooooo neglected! So much more is needed!
@CommentsTroll
@CommentsTroll 8 месяцев назад
yup! More new lines, more upgrades pls. We can't be just repeating our excitement on the 'Metro' and CRR for the last 5 years.
@icmull
@icmull 8 месяцев назад
Feds just rug pulled us on the funding so probs not going to get much more help. Maybe if Dutton gets in as a Brisbanite he will give us back the funding the feds promised us.
@hamishrose2536
@hamishrose2536 7 месяцев назад
You’re right but it’s definitely a step in the right direction.
@forthecreators4604
@forthecreators4604 10 месяцев назад
I googled sim city tutorials and now I’m addicted to these videos haha
@rafski420
@rafski420 9 месяцев назад
Brisbane needs about 15 more train stations in places that's not the Gabba or around CBD
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 8 месяцев назад
Amen!
@Jack-pz4my
@Jack-pz4my Месяц назад
Good luck managing to find the space to accommodate them.
@rafski420
@rafski420 Месяц назад
@@Jack-pz4my and do you think finding space at the gabba or around the cbd is easier? nice comment dickhead 🤡
@rafski420
@rafski420 Месяц назад
@@Jack-pz4my it would definitely be easier than the gabba or around the cbd. we already have central, roma street, south brisbane, southbank and the valley, which some have easily accessible bus stations nearby. sometimes you gotta look at the whole picture rather than being quick to reply something negative. next time use your brain and don't be a dickhead🤡
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 10 месяцев назад
Need rail urgently at Chermside and Carindale...
@ItzWindyyy
@ItzWindyyy 10 месяцев назад
Bus network reliability imo out those 2
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 10 месяцев назад
@@ItzWindyyy Until you have a traffic jam 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Yeh well Southside residents prefer public transport but Northside prefer driving so road upgrades
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
They really need a combined double deck Road/Rail tunnel under Gympie Road
@rmar127
@rmar127 5 месяцев назад
Honestly i think CRR is a great start. However if the state government was serious about creating a world class rail network, it needs to move away from the hub and spoke approach. Imagine a rail line that made cross town connections, linking Cleveland to beenleigh to beaudesert.and onto the future Springfield line extension. A reinstatement of the old beaudesert rail line is an absolute necessity to service the fast growing southwest corridor. There has been too much focus on the inner city and Northside infrastructure projects. It’s about time that the southside and west got some love and attention.
@will_274
@will_274 10 месяцев назад
Interesting. Ipswich has a win by the looks of it. We can go straight to the airport without changing.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
after a late night flight, you get Jetlagged and fall asleep on the Airtrain. Then you eventually wake up with Junkies on your train and find out you ended up all the way in Ipswich.
@gnhansen29
@gnhansen29 10 месяцев назад
It's an exciting project IMHO.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
I actually influenced the idea for shading the colours differently at each station. My original proposal was to colour code each station in different indigenous artworks that mimic the area the station serves.
@ItzWindyyy
@ItzWindyyy 10 месяцев назад
Not just unlocking bottleneck but enable extension to Cooly, Maroochy, Beaudesert lines as well as Ippy loop (Ripley) & mayyyybeee new stations at places like Samford, Redland bay/Victoria Point & DFO, the cruise terminal (assuming thry sort the issue with runway crossing). Also Alderley-Bald Hills link to pave way for outer suburb orbital line to include Bracken Ridge,, The Gap, Tennyson, etc....
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
can't they just extend the existing Pinkemba/Doomben line to the Cruise terminal and give the entire line an upgrade. Be so much cheaper and maybe also build a spur to Hamilton. Doomben line passengers have been crying out for better service for years.
@ItzWindyyy
@ItzWindyyy 10 месяцев назад
@@electro_sykes could see be turned into a loop line linking cruise terminal doen to hamilton then doomben etc
@TOTN17
@TOTN17 9 месяцев назад
@@electro_sykes There doesn't look like there would be enough room to take the line further then Pinkenba Village but the line was built with provisions to double track the line
@thewetwombat7726
@thewetwombat7726 9 дней назад
No doubt woolloongabba needed a station and the bottle neck needed to be addressed. But will going from Gold Coast to Brisbane now not cross through south bank and south Brisbane station? It appears so. Currently south bank and south Brisbane (cultural centre bus station) are by far the easiest change over points from bus to train, bus to bus etc for the southern suburbs. For example 111, 120, 175 all popular southern bus routes all terminate at different end points Roma street, queen street, and ballow street but all run through south bank and cultural centre making it very easy to interchange. I guess the proximity of south Brisbane station to the merivale bridge may make it extremely difficult to resolve the bottle neck issue. But if possible surely it was better to keep the line going through south bank (again, if possible). I also acknowledge you mentioned an upgrade to metro services in woolloongabba which may resolve my concerns in future but that would require adding or editing multiple current bus routes.
@egypthobby
@egypthobby 10 месяцев назад
Makes me wonder if the airport air-train will reduce their costs if it is going to be more integrated into the systems. Whenever my family use the airport we always drive as the airport airway tickets are too expensive.
@MelPikos
@MelPikos 10 месяцев назад
Doubtful, but we can always hope!
@TOTN17
@TOTN17 10 месяцев назад
​@@MelPikosState Government was looking into ending the privatisation of the Airport Line Early a while back but not much has been said about it recently
@jayfielding1333
@jayfielding1333 10 месяцев назад
The Airport Line becomes state owned in 2036.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
@@TOTN17 The same company that makes money from Airtrain also make money from the Airportlink & the Gateway Bridge and all the other Toll Roads across Greater Brisbane. Transurban does have quite a monopoly on access to the Airport.
@FLAME4564
@FLAME4564 9 месяцев назад
@@electro_sykes I agree I think theres a reason for having this Train to the airport was to ease the strain and congestion on the Gateway airport toll road thats been happening cause trust me i traveling with my father sometimes by car down the Bruce Highway have often been stuck in traffic have always suspected its beenc cuz of this Gateway (toll Road Airport Link and having a direct Station to the airport would be useful in easing the Gateway Tollroad Conjestion and allowing them to make money much easier and faster while using the airport train at the same time
@liamthompson9342
@liamthompson9342 Месяц назад
The main problem I perceive with our rail network is reliability. A splash of rain and the whole thing shuts down, leaving everyone stranded. It doesn't seem like XRR is even claiming to mitigate that. It will shuttle more passengers - when it happens to be working.
@catprog
@catprog 10 дней назад
The main problem is roma st to fortutude valley. Their are only 4 tracks and everyone has to use them. XRR will not be using these tracks and bypasses this.
@markshinnawi7477
@markshinnawi7477 2 месяца назад
looking 4ward to it
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Honestly think about long term over the costs
@FLAME4564
@FLAME4564 9 месяцев назад
as in long term maintanence? i bet Translink, QLR and the Department of Transport are gonna take that into account too.
@mrbaker1739
@mrbaker1739 5 дней назад
The rock under the Brisbane CBD and surrounds is 10 times harder than reinforced concrete. Subsequently tunnelling in Brisbane is more expensive than say tunnelling through Sydney sandstone.
@georgemarshall5374
@georgemarshall5374 3 месяца назад
I think Brisbane rail system should be much bigger and better it needs so much more work on it just like Sydney has done Brisbane needs to do the same as Sydney because it’s a great idea and it’s worth every penny
@gonegahgah
@gonegahgah 29 дней назад
What happened to a replacement Loganlea Station???
@fletchy40
@fletchy40 9 месяцев назад
Will the Gold Coast Line eventually expand itself down to Coollongatta Airport?
@91Caesar
@91Caesar 8 месяцев назад
Yes* The long term intent is to progress the line from it's current terminus at Varsity Lakes to the Coollongatta Airport. This was true back when the terminus was Robina and plans were underway to extend to Varsity Lakes. However, there is no clear timeline, budget or major commitment to actually enacting this. It's less a promise and more an ambition. Hypothetically any new government could quite easily decide they are going to abandon any plans to one day develop the route, only to lose the next election and have the new new government recommit to it. Any extension past Varsity Lakes simply isn't close enough to actually happening for it to be anything more then a handwave one way or the other right now. That said I don't think there is any risk of the concept of heavy rail to Coollongatta Airport ever being abandoned. It is broadly accepted that it will happen one day by a majority of the public, the politicians and the business interest involved, so it is unlikely to ever be completely dropped. There is just a lot of 'When' and 'How' that needs to be locked in.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Gold Coast will get a tram to their airport
@jayfielding1333
@jayfielding1333 10 месяцев назад
The Gold Coast Line will also be extended to the airport from Varsity Lakes.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
@@jayfielding1333 well it was suppose to but Corporate wankers at Brissbane airport are opposing it cos they are worried more airlines will then switch to Gold Coast airport with one seat ride into brisbane, due to lower landing fees at OOL, particully favoured by low cost airlines
@MrRmano13
@MrRmano13 10 месяцев назад
Its a good start but it really only services areas that have good public transportation…there needs to be an east west tunnel running from say intro to the airport crossing the river multiple times..needs to then have the same tunnel come down from the north. If you want to remove car movements you need to make more direct and convenient ways to us public transport..we need to and should spend another 20 billion if that’s what it takes to upgrades brassy train network…the world will laugh at our city during the Olympics…this project should have been started back in 2010 but bloody politics got in the way of doing the right thing for the ppl of Brisbane…
@jayfielding1333
@jayfielding1333 10 месяцев назад
The very initial plans for the next major Brisbane rail line are for a metro from Toowong via West End, the City, Kangaroo Point, New Farm, Bulimba to Brisbane Airport.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
@@jayfielding1333 actually, the plan has been altered to include two metro lines. The one you were talking about and another one that goes from Capalaba to Northside via the NWTC. This will be called the Subway or MRT, not Metro as metro is already the misleading name for a fancy bus
@zanzah_
@zanzah_ 7 месяцев назад
CBD needs 3 or 4 stations at LEAST to track with projected growth
@rberjaya
@rberjaya 3 месяца назад
Cross River rail and the Metro are only connect a few suburbs in the inner city, that's definitely not enough. We need more train lines with affordable price to connect suburbs to cdb to solve congestion problem. Population is growing and train lines is not growing fast enough.
@catprog
@catprog 10 дней назад
The problem is you can't run many more trains through the city. Their are only 4 lines between Roma St and Fortitude Valley. If you want more trains you need to have more lines through the city.
@TylerSmith-hd8tb
@TylerSmith-hd8tb День назад
What I don't understand though is why cant the QLD gov just redesign the Merivale bridge and make it wider?
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
What about fixing the bottleneck between Central and Northgate
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
That’s where the Gympie Road Rail/Road tunnel would come in I guess
@MelPikos
@MelPikos 10 месяцев назад
I'm looking at making a video on this soon!
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
@@MelPikos yeh I came up with a Road/Rail tunnel idea under Gympie Road, because it is missing link in both the Northsides Rail & also their road network
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
@@MelPikos Albion station badly needs an Upgrade. Makes no sense that it wasn't included in CRR when their is a lot of Transit Oriented Development around the station and yet it has poor accessibility. I also think they needs to be a shopping complex above
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 8 месяцев назад
OMG yes, it's so painful (Northsider here)!
@lis819
@lis819 Месяц назад
Nothing for Redland Bay, then. New developments around here every two shakes of a lambs tail, but no rail or additional bus lines. Just so long as the well heeled yuppies in the city centre have yet another means of public transport.
@catprog
@catprog 10 дней назад
Question where would the redland bay train stop in the CBD? If you want more trains from the suburbs to the city you need to increase the amount of trains in the city.
@freibuis
@freibuis Месяц назад
Airport to Gold coast was sold to us as an airport to airport service in the future. which never happened
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT 10 месяцев назад
But also means the first stop after exhibition station will be eagle junction station. Trains from Goldie and Springfield up to Caboolture and Redcliffe currently use platforms 3&4 at Albion and go past as express trains. Are they changing it so those stop at albion and wooloowin? The maps dont seem to show the new line stops there which would be a missed opportunity for the inner north but the manoeuvre from the left to the right is true. The only way around it is to stop the trains at Albion as well. Otherwise we have no way to transfer to the new line any closer inbound than eagle junction and would have to go all the way inbound to Roma street to transfer to get to the Gold Coast! Albert street station will be useless for the inner north residents. Southside got all the upgrades! Hurry up and upgrade Albion. The budget papers say 2025 or 2026 or still years away!Seems stupid to upgrade exhibition then run it express to eagle junction! Anyway Rant over lol good for outer commuters coming in though! Bring on a new rail tunnel north under Brisbane for the Sunshine Coast rail line. They need it up there badly. Car is king currently.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Why not upgrade Albion stadion
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
But that will slow down my journey on the Caboolture line. I am already pissed that I now need to change trains to get to Milton
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT 10 месяцев назад
@@electro_sykesthey are but not for a few years.
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT 10 месяцев назад
@@electro_sykesyeh true.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Why it badly needs an upgrade with transit oriented development already around it. Also, considering Toombul shopping centre closed forever since the floods, it would make sense to build a new shopping centre above Albion station @@JamesFFiT
@steviev1422
@steviev1422 4 месяца назад
is it free?
@ok-bg1we
@ok-bg1we 10 месяцев назад
Why is logan allways excluded. Why even create a logan between gildcoast and brisbane and do nothing to have it more connected.
@benpalexander
@benpalexander 10 месяцев назад
Two bits of good news for you happening right now... busway is being extended to the Hyperdome and the rail line is being straightened from Kuraby to Woodridge along with a level crossing removal 👌👌 Would love to see Mel do a video on these upgrades and indeed what that opens up for Logan.
@FLAME4564
@FLAME4564 9 месяцев назад
most likely if u look at the line map u might see the Goldcoast and Beenleigh lines and somewhere logan might be there on one of them i suspect most likely on the Gold Coast line if not possibly the Beenleigh one then again mabey the Gold Coast one idk i have now knowledge of either of those lines myself :3
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Why don’t they upgrade Albion station as part of the works. The Southside gets all the investment
@becsterbrisbane6275
@becsterbrisbane6275 8 месяцев назад
I just loooove how all these projects really only serve the precious 10km radius of the city. Most actually live OUTSIDE this radius, and god help you if there's a "police incident" say beyond Northgate station (which is usually the case), as there's NO buses as a replacement to/ from the city beyond Bald Hills. No train, you're on your own. And Roma Street right now feels a bit like the portal Craig Na Dun in "Outlander"- you never know where you're going to come out of!!!
@Shermos
@Shermos 8 месяцев назад
As said in the video, but perhaps not explained clearly enough, the rail bridge over the Brisbane river is a massive bottleneck which reduces the amount of trains which can run on the entire South East QLD network. A lot of suburban lines cannot run at their full capacity because of this bottleneck. Cross River Rail will mean there will be more frequent services for everywhere at least as far north as Caboolture. It will also open opportunity for double tracking the line to Nambour and for the planned Sunshine Coast line. There are also plans to extend the Springfield line which will benefit from Cross River Rail
@zanzah_
@zanzah_ 7 месяцев назад
Serious. I live at Toombul 15mins from the city and can barely get a train cuz everything is geared towards express trains for those 25km plus
@pauldiezel4584
@pauldiezel4584 24 дня назад
Aspley, McDowall, Albany Creek area is a total public transport dead zone. It needs a big bus hub desperately.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
The south gets more rail but the Northside prefers driving
@woodvineandco
@woodvineandco 6 месяцев назад
Lol. Prefers driving? We just don't have good options. I'd love to drive less.
@sakarkolachhapati9793
@sakarkolachhapati9793 4 месяца назад
Which parts are north?
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 Месяц назад
Another spaghetti network. What metropolitan areas need are commuter rail GRIDs for good coverage of the population and work areas. Grids, by definition, provide alternate paths during breakdowns, incidents and maintenance.
@aussiebloke51
@aussiebloke51 4 месяца назад
All rather underwhelming! Where is the building of circle lines to allow cross suburban travel?
@ahbudbudberdi
@ahbudbudberdi 6 месяцев назад
Gold Coast airport is about to get its own light rail, no need for a direct train from Brisbane airport to the Gold Coast anymore
@Degjoy
@Degjoy 10 месяцев назад
Even though Australia is much much richer, Finland has eradicated homelessness, whereas Australia hasn’t. Australia has nationwide, huge practically empty buildings, with expensive interiors and wasteful construction. There are enormous problems with drug taking, mental health issues and inequality. A new Amnesty International report has described Australia's human rights record as "embarrassing".
@woofwoof9667
@woofwoof9667 10 месяцев назад
I live here and you are 100% right.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes 10 месяцев назад
Use the old Myer space to house the homeless. Sure it would put it into good use, even if it’s only temporary
@carisi2k11
@carisi2k11 10 месяцев назад
But that is only because no one wants to go there except the russians.
@catprog
@catprog 10 дней назад
The problem is Australia has most of it's wealth in property. Make it affortable and you lose that wealth. In a way Finaland is actualy more rich. Is the myer center suitable for housing? I am thinking of bathrooms and showers for starters.
@natesnautical
@natesnautical 8 месяцев назад
horrible opening music
@markspin4596
@markspin4596 9 месяцев назад
With the rate of immigration this current government is obsessed with, makes you wonder if this project is even worthwhile...
@dekumutant
@dekumutant 4 месяца назад
Migration is being heavily curbed now the post covid backlog is done with
@peterlewis6836
@peterlewis6836 9 месяцев назад
stupid waste of money
@dekumutant
@dekumutant 4 месяца назад
Public infrastructure?
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