British guitarist analyses Tina S's total lack of ANY inadequacy!!! 

Lisa X and hundreds of others have done it at 8 years old CK her out. She got Paul Gilberts attention and he invited her over to jam so at that age she's jamming with the best at this type of stuff. Still not for me. I find it boring. Like Yngwie after 3 minutes boring gotta walk out JMO

he`s a phucking thief ... stolen videos 🖕 👎🖕 👎🖕 👎

just wow!

Prodigy

Johan Liebert 😄

dont quit, the guitar makers will go out of business :)) seriously do NOT quit ! if LvB could do it so can everybody else, except django reinhard, he'd probably do it better.YOU CAN DO IT. seriously awaiting a youtube video ;

@@hansti1 lol ok even tho I don't play

I already did lol ! I bought a Les Paul and it's been in my cupboard for 3 years

Johan May the covid-19 demon MISS YOU ENTIRELY ! Ya made me laugh out loud !

Thanks Fil :) you know why I'm thanking you :) I've heard very recently that Tina S deliberately left RU-vid because of some very nasty comnents/allegations/accusations that she's a fraud. Further, it's been said that she "speeds up the video to make it appear to be faster“. My response to that is as follows: the ONLY sort of person who could be stupid enough to make such a notion public couldn't be a guitarist. Or, if they are, they are enraged by the fact that a 17 year old could exhibit such mastery, and they themselves will never amount to anything more than a pint of piss. We REAL guitarists are only too aware of what both her hands are doing, and listen carefully you ignorant trolls, her hands match the sound output. I'm deeply offended (but not at all surprised) that anybody would soil such purity and brilliance with these jealous, petty accusations. I've reached out to her in a series of long tweets in French, reassuring her that her presence is vital to the guitar playing community. She has value. You trolls are mere placeholders. You Fil, your reaction vids are the best because you articulate what the players are doing in terms we understand. Most of the other vid reactions are genuine, but "fuck, what the.... Shit dude, what?" just doesn't feed the admiral's cat :) Keep doing your quality analyses. They are as valuable and appreciated as the playing. Cheers!

Hi, OG. To be honest, I can't offer you an explanation because I can't find the original post to which you responded and I'm sure it is quite dated. Sorry. If it was disparaging to Tina in anyway I'm sure it was intended experimental sarcastic. I have the utmost respect and regard for her and would defend her under any circumstances, and have on many. Beyond that, I can't be more specific.

I particularly like this video and it's commentor because he takes apart her performance with the knowledge of a true professional who's been there and points out many of the things that make her and this performance so special. If I've said otherwise elsewhere, I apologise.

 OG Gamer Palm Springs, CA randolph timm plays with such carelessness? Your question, or your point, doesn't make much sense. That, or you didn't communicate it on the level that you intended, because my take away was "what did he just say?" I'm very reluctant to discuss my own credentials until I encounter a post like yours. You say that you "obviously" interact with gifted, or on the spectrum kids. How is this obvious to a group of total strangers? I said earlier that I have a master's degree in solo classical guitar performance. But, being the insane over achiever that i am, I also have a PhD in Psychology, Deviancy and Aberrant Behavior. So I'm not understanding your post at all. Can you rephrase it maybe? I'd actually like to pursue this aspect of the convo. And to the illiterate fool calling Dolphin all kinds of ridiculous things, I'd put those stones back in your pocket, bro. You have no right to throw them. His comments are thoughtful and clear. Whether or not you agree couldn't be less important. My guess is that the allegory eludes you completely. Mores the pity. REPLY Just curious, OG.. You sure this was me?? Doesn't sound like me.🤔

Did he get screwed sideways?

it isn't just facial expressions all her music is very mechanical and blank.

@@MrAtrophy Agreed, it's very well practised but with no feel. Pure sign of autistic savant and/or OCD, like all those young Asian "genius" pianists. I've observed Tina's maturation over the years. Some years ago she was totally anti-social, with the same mechanical obsession on the fretboard. Gradually, from all the accolades and Facebook support, she's become a a little more sociable (when not playing) -- very similar to Angelina Jordan. Sigh ... many people are so often impressed with virtuosic fireworks they can't discriminate feel from technique.

@@MrAtrophy Watch her Megadeth cover, for Tina it's intense lol

Not complaining just noting and understand completely often by the time I've got something to the point I'm happy with it and I'm not this proficient, it's hard to get the emotion it becomes a technical exercise, But music is first and fore most an emotional art form so in a way I find these at odds , this shows often in the studio where first try at a solo are often the best , less clinical sounding , and besides who doesn,t like a good guitar face ,

@divorcedme No my friend, I'm not claiming to be a "better" guitar player than TinaS, just adding my 2 cent's worth of information and opinion relevant to the OPs statement re facial expressions. If you look about the world you will notice this common thread, that musicians of many kinds make varying facial expressions dependent upon the nervous processes in their brain (mind), some of which reveal concentration or relaxation, stressful contortions or blissful peace, etc, and some are just plain blank. Let me ask you -- how can some "genius" musician, at the cutting edge of virtuosity, NOT make expressive indications of their extreme nervous processes? Every high level player does it to some extent. But observe the behaviours and expressions of those with autism spectrum and you will notice the similarities of "not being there" emotionally. TinaS sometimes chews gum while playing. Do you know why? It is a device to stop teeth grinding, coming from an extremely tense jaw (ie unconscious brain sectors), unable to be relaxed by will power. Just saying. Along with the mechanistic feel of her playing commented by many other guitarists not overly "amazed" by her fast fingerwork, it's all just part of the syndrome. Like it or leave it according to taste; understand it better or just live with a misunderstanding. Not my business.

i agree with you 100 percent

E.T is the word, lets kill here, the americans do....

only a reflection of tonio k

​@@hansti1 At least we Americans tend to be fluent with the English language, just as we _try_ to become fluent in a foreign language before we dare to converse in it. What's _your_ excuse? And no, we will _not_ be killing any ETs, nor will we be killing Tina S. On the contrary, if I owned a string of nightclubs with stages for live music, I'd be offering her a contract right about now! With her guitar mastery, she'd bring in the crowds and pack my establishments with paying customers every night, no doubt!

@@BloodyBay kinda sounded like tonio k. we're americans we love everyone?(check it out: one big(happy) family :))

The people who say that need to watch the original video all the way through to the end. It's only a few frames, less than a second at the end but as the piece ends and she returns to earth from so "deep in the zone" you see the huge, natural, 17-year-old smile start to appear. It's the same with any instrument or with vocals. During the performance of something so demanding you often seem to "go blank" because there is *nothing* but the music. The rest of the world doesn't exist. It's when it ends that the rush hits....

There has been research done showing that the way a performer physically behaves influences how they are perceived as much as what they actually play. But maybe that is irrelevant here. There are two things going on. 1) lack of physical reaction to what she is playing. 2) lack of emotion in the music itself. 3) I said two things, so this point is possibly just too much wine due to lock down. What was the question again?

Totally agreed. It's pure focus. I am a math teacher. Some of my collegues sometimes say, I look "evil" in my face not showing emotions when walking by them. I say.. BS, I am just focused on thinking about something.

@@pythagorasaurusrex9853 Lang Lang isn't focused at all, then?

She makes me wanna PUKE

Amen! I say to people they can play like this. But they will never have the available time to play like this! People don't realise it's literally a way of life. Jason Beckers mum said he never let go of his guitar, even at dinner he'd bring it to the table. It is literally spending every spare moment on the fretboard. I sacrifice some practise time for answering comments, but I can live with that! 😂👍

JdNtBrLrTi i have to disagree on that one, I'm at my 2nd year of playing and I can play like her, and I haven't been totally taken over by it, you don't have to give up all entertainment to get this good.

@@isaiahorta6049 can you post a video? no hate, just curious

@@MrFlyingPanda l second that.

@@isaiahorta6049why don't you post a video of you playing like her?

She has a work ethic that trolls are unfamiliar with.

can we just be real, she lacks emotions. One can point this truth out and not be a troll, or hater. Reality is how it is and even tho shes insanely good when it comes to mechanical play - she still lacks the emotions when shes playing. Yes i play guitar myself, yes not even close as good as her and probably i never will cause i dont play that much. I can still just point this out and not be a total asshole. Get real man.

Such a sad fucking culture of dismal jerks tearing down good talented people.

​@@TheBlackfall234 She lacks emotion? How the fuck do you know that? I'd love to see you make that criticism to her face and how stupid that would make you look. May I suggest John Tess at Red Rock? You'll absolutely love it. Just full of sappy emotion.

I can guarantee you that she has no life. It would be nothing but practice all day.

I looked a some videos of her at 4 or 5 years old playing classical guitar, she had that same expression, she was awesome, even at such a young age! Her expression is called concentration, and being totally in the moment! This is what total genius looks like! Amazing!

The f is wrong with them? What she is doing isnt easy whatsoever. They expect her to laugh while playing too? Of course she has to be in her A game

exactly, what game is more emotional ? chess or nba ? and she is sped up a bit ;)

You gotta look at the through the fire and flames Video if you wanna See her smile :)

With the Steve Vai cover she shows more expression. For me it's always there, in her playing..

7.08 notes per second??? It is hard to comprehend that speed. The best test to take for anyone whether a guitar player or flute player, is to put all your fingers on a flat surface and start to tap them in any order you choose. Watch a timer and get to the point where you are tapping at 7 taps per second Now, here is the trick, continue that tapping at 7 per second for the next 5 minutes without a glitch.

It's actually not too difficult to comprehend, as on the guitar it's possible to tap 6 or 7 notes onto the fretboard with tapping. Although it's much more common to see 5 to 6 fingers being used as Tina does here. As soon as you fret the notes you'll have 6 in rapid succession, if you remove them again in sequence, that's 12 notes, which will all happen in a fraction of a second. For a better appreciation, just tap your nails onto a hard surface in sequence, like you're waiting for something, then imagine every time you lift your finger from the surface you'd get another note. You'll soon be able to imagine the speed going on 🙂

@@jeffreyburley4033 The really scary thing is, she sometimes is only hitting 1 or 2 notes per second which means at times she is going far more quickly without missing a note. The best news is she's back with a band called Spin Twice. I cannot wait until they tour in my neck of the woods.

@@wingsofpegasus I appreciate your taking the time to educate me very much; it is incredibly kind of you. I've tried a number times in my life to play a few instruments including guitar, bass, piano, flute and, one time (literally), clarinet (I blew a correct note the very first try - LOL). Anyway, I never put in the time or effort to become proficient; however, I appreciate great music in all its forms. I enjoy videos like yours because they give me insights into how music is put together and formed through rules and methods I didn't know existed. I think if I had been introduced to these things at an earlier age, I may have found a bit more success. It doesn't mean I couldn't do it now as I recently learned how to draw but I did it every single day for 2 years to get to my current level which is pretty good as I can draw photo-realistic portraits if I take the time (usually 4-8 hours). I'm happy with that but would like to apply it to something musical. We'll see in the next year. Thanks again for taking your very important time to provide me with new knowledge. I am a fierce supporter of Tina S. and hope to see her on tour with her new band if they visit Canada. Cheers and all the best.

Je partage votre opinion. Elle est une personne magique, divine .

She was a child prodigy and has studied with masters to apply electric guitar techniques to clasical music on guitar.

Check out mike stern, jimmy herring,

No, it's not. I love her playing but what say- John Williams does is far more difficult. Perhaps almost infinitely more difficult. And as a classically trained guitarist (which is why Tina, in this video only that I know of, is playing the guitar on her left leg not her right) would be the first to acknowledge this.

Being able to play a piece flawlessly is all practice and ability. I would like to see her free jazz or blues playing and what she can come up with off the cuff. Often two very different skills. Many people can play flawless compositions but cant open jam to save their life

She’s back. Spin Twice is her band I believe.

@@Heidi.M Yeah, Heidi I hope she rips off some solo work there. She needs to be out on her own like Gary was and Steve Vai still is. but they stand up and walk around she didn't. but with this band she is standing up but her play hasta be suffering. I mean you can't do the stuff she was doing back then walking around and jumping all over the place. I mean that Beetoveen thing absolutely blew me away!

Paul Christian she has a perfect poker face.

That's funny

Check expressions of "veena srivani" while she plays her instrument. You will like it.

Paul Christian , me, too...😁

Paul Christian 😄

and cure covid

If you were on next, you would probably not bother

Can you imagine her walking into a guitar shop and looking around?

Great technical skill i appreciate her enormous skill but not really the sounds or music i want to hear. No such thing as best guitarist depends on individual taste

the dooo

Thousands and thousands of RU-vid commenters who are blessed with the gift of absolute unblemished certainty.

Tina and Marcin Patrzalek are among my top 10 greatest guitarists. Probably 7 and 8 (only because they've decades to move up).

...Guthrie Govan...

Normally I'd agree 100% however, her uploads cover a time period from when she first started lessons at age 6 so I wouldn't sider her (obvious) talent a birth right or call her a savant, sh'es worked very hard, long hours to be this good, and clearly...it's paid off!

She was trained to become a legendary guitarist.

Yeah it's just jealousy.

@@wingsofpegasus exactly, and it's really unfortunate. i am all for constructive criticism, but being mean is just pointless

There are always annoying comments, but she seems to get it WAY worse then normal, and I have no idea why. Is it she is more talented then average, so she attracts more bad comments? I do not know.

She is slayinnng it! What?!?!

People demanding facial expressions as a prove for feeling is stupid. Shes just a kid and is prob not confortable with a camera...

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I have been playing and practicing guitar for nearly 45 years. The best I can do is play a 64th note. That's 16 individual notes each second. Unfortunately, I can only play one of them. Just one. This girl plays her heart out. I"m impressed.

dude,wats ur damage.u pissed a girl kicked ur ass on guitar?

You're being too hard on yourself... 12 fingers will do just fine.

lol, great comment.

Cool!

Marcus Aurelius : Awesome dude!

In fairness, Malmsteen wrote “Arpeggios From Hell” while Tina covered it. I don’t know if it’s possible to play more technically efficient than Tina, but you could say the same for Yngwie. On top of that, Rising Force was written, recorded and released by the time Yngwie was Tina’s age. So, yeah. Malmsteen is a monolith.

Marcus Aurelius Well put 👍🏻 I have also been a fan and I have to say I have never heard such a young person play with such greatness in my whole life.

+Marcus Aurelius "a quick smile before melting her guitar" Now....... imagine a perminate smaile on her face as the guitar melts HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now..... technically....... a lot of people try their whole life to get what she has "technically" and never even gets close to the technical skill she has. When she ever learns to let the guitar play HER and the moment the guitar melts HER! Her skill will tripple from that moment forward. There is only 1 person that can litterally just stand their with their guitar and a microphone and hold a whole stadium hostage........ that would be George Strait.... The guy has more #1's than ANYONE from ANY gnre....... Elvis the king?????? ok..... if you insist....... George is midas cus if he touches it, its instant GOLD and king can gold not buy :) lol.

She makes all the guy's jelly, she's amazing!!

Like the few technically great guitarists, when she is playing you are not looking at her face… or her legs etc; you are mesmerized by her hands, and your eyes are probably closed anyway so YOU can concentrate on what what you are hearing.

My brain can barely process what I'm hearing let alone seeing. I can't do both. Phenomenal doesn't even describe this.

To quote Connor McGregor when he was at the top opf the MMA game... "This is an obsession. Talent does not exist, we are all equals as human beings. You could be anyone if you put in the time. You will reach the top, and that's that. I am not talented, I am obsessed."

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Love this comment. One of my 1st impressions while watching this was thinking to myself "The western Masters were metal as f***". Beethoven, Bach and Mozart baby. Their music was transcendent. They were products of their generations but they would do just fine in this generation. I would love to have seen what JSB could have done with modern instrumentation.

@@chrislawrence328 just the reverse.

She went on a hiatus while she's studying. Unfortunately she had to deal with a lot of trolls thanks to being a known figure, a young girl and looking attractive so she pulled the plug and focused on her studies instead.

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Anyone criticizing her talent deserves to be slapped silly. There's always some slimeball waiting in the wings ready to tear down someone's amazing talents. Jealous?? Apply yourselves and put in the work like she obviously did, lazy stupid cunts.

jelous assholes always belittle people that are better than they r.so yeah...some dumbasses talk shit about her.I hate those stupid pricks

@@rickleblanc8900 yup I am not jealous and love this young gorgeous French guitar virtuoso lady. My dream girlfriend/future wife would play guitar or bass and we could have a band together.

@@larrysmithart7241 yup I get dumbies constantly insulting my videos and playing but I never claim to be a guitar virtuoso lol.

Classical music was the heavy metal of it's day.

You can hear Queen riffs all through this playing...and other chord lifts by others as well.

Lmao Queen?? Lmfao gtfo

Precisely.

Perfectly stated. I'm definitely a talented classical guitarist. But it would take 3 more lifetimes for me to be able to play at the level she does in 17 short years of life. She inspires me, she enfuriates me, she delights me, she makes me want to smash all of my guitars and light a bonfire. Lol

@@oggamerpalmspringsca7844 I agree completely. It terrifies me that today's generation (and as an Oakland, CA cop friend said, millennial is a state of mind and ranges ages 6-86!) says "if I worked that hard I could be that good." No, you could not. Then, think of classical pianists like Valentina Lisitsa. Her parents thought she was at musical academy; she often wasn't because it took her 3 days to learn a piece that took other students 3 weeks to 3 months...there are levels. You can't polish a turd, as John Lennon said. While you can (auto-tune) his point is well taken. One could practice nine hours a day and without musical talent, you'll never, EVER be able to perform like Tina - nor should you try!

@@Allan-et5ig too right! I've had noisy arguments with non musicians who insist proficiency is merely a question of dedication and time. I'm glad that's not true, for obvious reasons. I've tried to explain that without the innate spark of talent and aptitude, one could spend (waste) a lifetime to reach levels of mediocrity at very best. Then I'm told I'm an elitist snob, and dismissed as one would a garden variety asshole. Without even a rudimentary understanding of the way music works, (the talent piece), the likelihood of becoming adept would have the same lack of success as if you were to try and explain what "green" is to a blind man. Impossible. There's no frame of reference to draw upon. So while I'm perturbed by the "thumbs down" and the outrageously stupid comments that accompany them, I understand why these brat babies feel compelled to post them.

@@oggamerpalmspringsca7844 You were shabbily treated without cause. One of my medical doctors drove swiftly to his son's high school to ask why the son got a commendation for finishing 6 out of 8 and a fancy medal, in a swim meet. (The Dad didn't bitch out the boy who tried his best, fyi...that wasn't his concern.) The sheepish swim team coach said (hope you're sitting down) "everyone that participates is an equal winner whether they are first or last." So the Dad qualified and said "while I don't agree, you mean, trying is everything right?" Coach replied NO, I MEAN sixth-place is as good as first." The Dad is from Russia and was in his twenties when cronyism had taken over in the old Soviet Union. He said this kind of thinking was frighteningly familiar. A bit far afield from the creeps who called you elitist - but not a million miles away. Best, Allan

430....sounds like noise

@@VLove-CFII loveless lifeless brainless it is noise you don't hear anything that isn't noise brainiac

nah, emotionless noise. technically impressive, no soul.

Richard McEllan robotic

@@VLove-CFII alright let's see you do it.

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There's a little bit of both involved, Genetic ( god given?) skill and years of hard work.

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...neither are any of us who leave positive comments!

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Thanks!

@@wingsofpegasus you're very welcome!

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My thoughts exactly! Has same sound.

Aww, don't be so mean!

@Danny Bowen You know what's sad? Gender identity bullshit has become so overblown, that idk anymore if someone is genuine about it or joking about it, but I assume.. joking? I hope :D

Pardon me for what I am about to say, but Malmsteen is lightyears behind this girl. He's just fast tremolo picking and a few tapping here and there. This girl seems to be a more complete guitarist. Regards.

What else could she do on guitar now? She went to college, studied law, and rumour has it, opened a music publishing business.

She started getting hate mail calling her a fake etc. I heard that she went to college and has since recently returned to play more music and videos! I also read that it took her 3 months to get this down pat and it was done in one take.

She is in the top 1% of the top 1% lol

No problem ☺

Picking that fast isn't so much the trick, it's picking that fast from the wrist that's... I can't... I think I'm developing carpal tunnel syndrome just imagining attempting it myself.

It's called jealousy....Period!

@@Stratster68 I agree, I'm a basement drummer and I come here to learn a thing or two. cheers

Called assholes

No problem!

Yeah as a player you can see she's got this down, otherwise what is the point in the elastic band keeping the strings quiet on the 1st fret! 🤘

I am a fan but even I think this video is at 1,25...

That's what I call: a cool story bro.

I don’t care if it’s real or not; I cried

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Make no mistake about it. This girl would have NO LIFE!!. Guitar all day every day. That's all she would do. To get this proficient the focus has to be intense. Virtuoso? No. Absurd practice? Yes.

No problem!🙂

Nowadays, you would have to stand in line at The Crossroads....lol

What do you mean go down to the crossroads. She was the one that thought the devil

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pso ☮️💯🎸🤘🏼👊🏻 Just a rare real human being in this crazy world we live in .. I lost my 23 year old son in a car accident in July.. Started following and appreciating Wings of Pegasus back then .. means more than can be explained.. A simple like ✊🏼 goes a long way.. The music is my Healing - Gary Clark Jr . ☮️💟✊🏼

Thanks Steve!

Agreed.

Yeah, Fil's analysis game is tight.

@@stevetrivago Sincere condolences friend ! I lost my beloved wife last year - I truly know how raw your grief must be - but remember - life is eternal xxx