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USC did NOT receive a penalty on that last call.. it was last years Pac-12 championship *conference championship* the the defender just turned his head to make it shoulder contact instead of crown of the helmet
You guys should react/look into NFL divisions and the NFL schedule. The way divisions work in terms of proximity, playoff implications, and frequency of games against each other, creates a really unique culture of rivalries that span decades (I.e. Steelers/Ravens or Giants/Eagles)
@@colinryan4737 haha I was on the spot and a dumb Giants fan that wanted to be included. And then 30 seconds after after I hit send I thought “god, Packers/Bears is really the best example”
Don't even try to figure out what "targeting" is The officials don't even know what it is anymore and every crew, not just conference, but every individual crew calls it differently 😂 But the basics are, can't use the crown of the helmet to hit someone ANYWHERE (called spearing), can't make contact to the head or neck area of a "defenseless target" and you can't launch or crouch before a hit and then make head contact. But like I said the way its called is a mess and the officials seem to make it up as they go and are WILDLY inconsistent from game to game
@@jmielke4341 which hit? The Denzel Ward one the call stood, on a lot of those where it looked clean the call stood. It's a broken penalty left up to way too much subjection
I think that one hit by ward that was a penalty got reviewed and overturned. That one that you said would’ve been a penalty was actually not a penalty because it was before they started cracking down on targeting lol in todays game, it would 100% be a penalty though so your statement was accurate.
Watched that game and it stood as targeting. The announcers stated it should not have been and the league actually came out later that week after the game and stated it was a bad call and should NOT have been a penalty. Would not be called today. Defenseless player only comes into play when hit is above shoulders.
Great video guys! So many excellent questions, let’s go through a few of them: 2:24 What is a blindside block? It is when a player(usually a player on the defense) is hit at a direction greater than parallel to the line of scrimmage while trying to make a tackle. It is usually a penalty commuted on turnovers, or by offensive linemen, or on kickoffs when there are large changes in direction of the play. 7:34 this is a perfect example of an illegal blindside block and you can hear the announcers say there is a flag on the play at the end of the clip. At the end of the clip you state “that’s fine” agreeing with the commentator. This is incorrect and both the touchdown and the yardage gained from the run are negated along with a 15 yard penalty. Additionally there is a 15 yard penalty for targeting(see below about what that is) and an ejection of the player. You make the same mistake at 8:25 stating that this hit is fine when it is in fact an illegal blindside block (a hit past parallel taking a player by surprise) 3:20 Was that being called a foul? What was the foul for? First this ruling only pertains to college football and is not part of professional NFL football(though many think it should be to decrease head trauma). It is called TARGETING and it is the only reviewable penalty in the game of football(at any level). What is targeting? It must qualify by one of two things: making forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player OR making forcible contact using the crown of the helmet. When this penalty it is AUTOMATICALLY REVIED to see if either of these violations occur. In this case the announcers in the booth are saying they thought it was clean but upon review it does appear there is some forceable contact to the beach area of the defenseless player. A good example of what Targeting IS NOT is demonstrated here: 5:20 you can hear the announcers talking about “putting your pad level down” suggesting that contact was imitated with the shoulder and made contact to the offensive player’s chest. While violent, this is the preferred hit. 6:45 Can the quarterback slide/give themselves up to avoid a hit? Yes, absolutely! The big caveat is that the ball is placed then at where the slide is initiated so they just need to make sure they initiate the slide after the yard to gain.
Having played the game from the age of 11 and through college, as a receiver and conversely as a corner back, the hits you don't see coming are less traumatic than the ones you see coming. When you see it you react, and tend to tense up, which can cause injury.
I've never seen one of you videos before, but I love watching Americans react to Rugby hits and British people react to American Football hits, so I tuned in. As a pretty extreme US Football fan, you earned my immediate respect at 1:34 when you saw an uncovered blind side sack and, without missing a beat, said "Lawrence Taylor." We can grab a pint and watch the sport of your choice any time gentlemen. You earned my respect and a subscriber. Keep it up!
The targeting rules are very subjective and dependent on the umpires interpretation of the play. The basic idea though is to avoid “headhunting” as you suggested
The last hit was not a foul. The officials decided that the defensively player made crown of the helmet to helmet contact accidentally. Which I think is the right call. The best part is after the hit Cam Rising, the player who got hit winked at the guy who hit him, they caught it on slow mo replay, and then proceeded to BUST THAT TEAM UP for the rest of the game and won the PAC 12 Championship game MVP.
Some context on one of the hit: The South Carolina hit vs Michigan is my favorite. Because the play before South Carolina got screwed by the refs and Michigan got the ball. Then clowney destroys the RB and gets the ball back for the offense. That’s why you hear the commentators say, “ South Carolina deserves to have it, and they do!”
Tackling/blocking penalties have really become a bit unpredictable these days. I’ve seen penalties called on tackles that were technically legal but were still penalized because they looked bad. In today’s game, optics matter. If a hit looks rough, there’s a chance it’ll be penalized even if the tackle is technically within the rules.
Really excited to see you guys during the season!! If you want something different to watch, try Devin Hester highlights. Greatest punt and kick returner of all time
Thank you Steven, appreciate it, we’ve got a Devin Hester video in the Playlists (NFL highlights). We have got him on the list to look at his college highlights.
Targeting is a relatively new penalty, and they throw kt out a lot, but everytime its called they have to review it in replay to see if it actually meets the criteria or not.
Since you mentioned you enjoyed hearing “I was there for that one, I was there for the Auburn & Penn St. highlight. Don’t ask what happened the rest of the game, but in that moment the atmosphere was electric!
Clifford was attempting to get the 1 st down. He should have saved his body but getting that down was the goal. Haha. PSU went on to dominate that game! We Are!!!
If you guys are taking video requests, you should watch the best college football players for the upcoming season. Marvin Harrison Jr and Caleb Williams.
Penalty is only called if it is helmet to helmet contact otherwise it is a clean play. (It doesn’t matter if it top of the helmet or front of the helmet) And yes QBs are allowed to slide even in college.and that last one looks clean.
That last hit actually happened this past season and it was not a penalty. Because he got his head out of the way and made contact with his shoulder. Utah ended up winning the game however and that knocked USC out of the playoff.
Crack back blocks are illegal. Crackback is a block by an offensive player who is usually positioned away from the main body of the formation and runs back in towards the ball at the snap, blocking an opponent back toward the original position of the ball at the snap
college is great! There are specific hits which are illegal. Head to head. Targeting with the crown of helmet. But anytime they can flag unsportsmanlike or unnecessary roughness.
I played Center and Left Tackle in HS and college. Wherever a Defensive player beats an offensive lineman, they call that a "Lookout Block" because all the Offensive lineman can do is turn and yell........ LOOKOUT!!!!! Rick Charleston SC
The Clowney hit is, for my money, the best hit on CFB history not only because of how incredible it was, but because of the context. It was the 4th quarter of what had been a hard fought bowl game. Michigan had the lead, momentum, and the ball. A score would make an SC comeback very unlikely. The play before The Hit was a 4th down and short and Michigan went for it on a fake punt because they knew how huge a score on the drive would be. The play they ran appeared to be stopped short, there’s video of the measurement showing space between the ball and the stick, but the refs gave MI the first down anyway. It was such a bad call that the unbiased national announcer screamed, “What are they looking at?!?” The very next play was The Hit. Clowney came in like an avatar of the god of Football Retribution and just took the ball back for SC. That’s why the announcer said, “SC deserves to have it…and they do.” On their first play with the ball, SC went deep and hit a 32-yard TD pass and went on to win the game.
It's a good hit and great play, but best in history? Probably according to SC fans, but let's not forget it came in the Outback Bowl against a 5 loss Michigan team with absolutely no stakes. When you talk about best ever, context is important.
@@Jon.A.Scholt I mean, I’m definitely an SC fan, but what single amazing hit had a greater impact on the outcome of a bigger game in a more crucial moment for a team who was more deserving than SC was in that moment? I think it’ll be hard to find a situation with the combination of the incredible hit and the impact of the moment to the outcome of a more important game to the team, but I’d love to hear some!
I think that first 'targeting' penalty you were talking about was called because it looked like the defender's helmet just grazed the receiver's chin. Clearly the defender was not targeting the receiver's head - he was actually trying to keep his own head out of that area. Tough call for refs to make, but when it's close like that let the boys play. No penalty should have been called.
It may be on here...i only have a couple minutes...but Jadeveon Clowney of South Carolina's tackle in a bowl game against Michigan deserves its own video. (Indeed, it was here near the end.) Monstrous NFL tackle from the old days: Chuck Bednarik of the Eagles in 1960 vs Frank Gifford of the Giants. Frank woke up in a hospital bed.
At 4:41, you saw a receiver get popped as he went across the middle. THAT is what we call a "hospital pass." They're, uh, kinda self-explanatory, really. Normally, it's the linebacker or safety delivering a hit like that, but it ultimately doesn't matter who is making the hit. You can probably watch a collection of "hospital pass 'highlights'" - if you really want to cringe in sympathetic pain. There used to be a guy known as Jack "The Assassin" Tatum who once permanently paralyzed a guy in a *pre-season* game. Permanently paralyzed a man in a practice game! Austin Collie is another great example, because Peyton Manning threw lots of passes to Collie, but 2 in particular got him concussed. The second ultimately ended his season, and Collie's career as well (for the most part).
That play with Denzel Ward from Ohio State WAS flagged and upheld after replay, for targeting. And it's one of the worst targeting calls I've still ever seen in college football. Followed closely by the Shaun Wade targeting against Clemson a season or two later that completely changed that game. Also, the potential targeting on the last play was waived off (correctly) by replay. It's automatically reviewed in college if called on the field and either confirmed or waived off. Targeting and its subjectivity is one of the most maligned topics in football (at all levels, high school through the NFL) the last 10-12 years or so. Even with replay they get wrong a LOT more than you'd hope.
"You can't blindside block, but you can blindside tackle". What this means is; if you're behind a guys shoulders, you can't block him during a play, unless you first get into his potential view. But, you can tackle someone from their " blindside". The announcers made that comment because that "tackle" looked very similar to what an illegal blindside block looks like.
The biggest difference between the college game and the NFL is the one foot one knee rule. So I. College you can catch a ball and only get one foot in bounds, where as in the NFL you need both feet down in bounds to constitute a reception. In college, if you fall, and one knee hits the ground, the play is over whether you were touched by a defensive player or not. In the NFL, you could have the ball, fall down, slip, stumble, fumble, get back up off of both knees and keep going, unless you went down to one knee because a defensive player tackled, (hit) you. In the Canadian football league they only have 3 downs, but the wide receivers line up in the back field, similar to a QB in "shot gun" ! Wide outs are at full sprit once the ball is snapped! Imagine a kick return, every play! Wild
I believe the last hit was from last season and they ended up not calling it a foul for the reasons the announcers said. Its only targeting for A.) A hard high hit on a player considered defenseless like a qb sitting in the pocket or a receiver waiting for a ball or a player standing behind the play. B.) Helmet to helmet contact. C.) Using the crown of the helmet to initiate contact. D.) Avoidable hits to a players head or neck area. I miss the old days when players could tackle. Its almost devolved into flag football. I miss the old kickoffs. I played in high school and i knew the risks i was taking but did it anyways. The same goes for these players. Targeting didnt really become a thing called consistently until the early 2010's. And it mostly stemmed from ex players complaints on permanent brain damage from concussions and a handfull of players that got paralyzed playing.
Note on the targeting penalty. You can’t hit a guy in the head when you initiate contact. Whether it’s your helmet, forearm, or shoulder. You also can’t blindside a “defenseless player,” meaning a quarterback (you have to be nice to them now), or a receiver who just caught the ball and hasn’t been able to turn yet.
Don't forget - NFL and college football have different rules on legal vs illegal hits. It's easy to confuse them as you go back and forth between the two leagues. And to be honest - i can no longer articulate the differences - i've lost track over the years - so for the casual fan like myself - you have to watch the games and get a sense of what is "legal" this year - in each league - as the rules are often revised to improve player safety. In terms of skill, speed and strength - you can start to sense there is a big difference between professional and amateur - and remember - as you're watching college football - there is a high probability that no athlete on your screen will have a professional career. Almost all college players' football careers end on their final college game. There really is no other league besides the NFL to play in. For almost all of them, nothing follows, just memories. NFL players really are on a different level of skill. One last thing - now that you've gotten a deeper understanding of the sport - was this "brutal hit" compilation not quite as interesting as the first one? The sport really is so much more than just tough hits - understanding the skill, the athleticism, the strategy and the comradery really is so much more interesting than just watching a hodgepodge of tough hits. Don't get me wrong - this was fun watching it with you guys - but i've enjoyed watching your learning and deeper understanding of the sport progress over time - that's much more satisfying to me. So thanks for posting this one - i'm always looking forward to the next one.
Absolutely you are right. You can use your facemask so the front of your helmet can make contact you just can't spear them with the top, and that is anywhere Justin Fields took a helmet spear to the ribs, that was targeting. Facemask is clean and yeah you can't blind side block but can blind side tackle.
Hey D and N, usually as in a car accident you can actually get more damage by bracing yourself. That's why so many drunk drivers kill people in terrible accidents and come out without a scratch, they were drunk and not bracing.
The hit at 3:17 was called as targeting, which you were mostly right about, no using the helmet as a weapon, no helmet-to-helmet contact. In this case they reviewed the call, but did not show the decision. I don't know if it was overturned or not, but it should have been. That was a clean hit and a terrible call. The kid did everything right, perfect hit, perfect pad level, kept his head out of the way, what more can you ask? Terrible call, hopefully reversed
College Football is stricter than the NFL for tackling. There is a foul in college for 'Targeting' which roughly means a hit/tackle harder than required but also details helmet hits and other types. The penalty is disqualification so each call has to be reviewed on replay by the official.
This is why college sports rein supreme. Yes, there are some hits that should've been flagged, but they let em play more through the call in the NCAA. Same reason why March Madness is the most watched sporting event other than the Super Bowl.
4:10 - That was likely a case where the refs saw the tackler's head was high and that the impact of the hit whipped the ball carrier's head back so they assumed there was helmet-to-helmet contact and a penalty (the official name of a penalty where there is a direct hit with one player's helmet to another's without any mitigating circumstances is targeting). What happens with targeting penalties in college is they carry a pretty stiff penalty of ejection from the current game and suspension for the first half of the next game if the penalty is in the second half of the current game. But to mitigate unnecessary ejections and suspensions, the play is automatically reviewed and my guess is here that they overturned the targeting call and proceeded with no penalty. 6:58 - Yes, if you slide to give yourself up, at any level, the play is over and you aren't allowed to be hit. College rules and below make this a little more straight forward because you don't have to be down by contact. Once your knee or shin or arm are down, regardless of how you got there, the play is over. In the NFL, you have to be pushed down or touched when down to end the play (except for an intentional slide).
Yea, a lot these hits would be fouls these days. Rightfully so! Now a days any helmet to helmet that is seen as intentional, would be considered, "Targeting". If your tagged as being guilty of targeting, you're expelled from the game. If it happens in the second half then you're expelled from the second half of the game and the first half of you're teams next game.
The Florida hit on the Oklahoma play (Major Wright) wasn’t a penalty because it happened years before that became a rule. The targeting rule is only something that’s been around the last 10 years or so
Yeah 7:50 is basically the epitome of a blindside block. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a foul at the time of this replay, but that would be 100% a 15 yard penalty in today’s game
As a washed up athlete. Number 36 in the second clip literally couldn’t help himself. After some hits you become a WWE character for a couple seconds and you’re too pumped to stop it
For not knowing football, you all did real well. The one you surmised might have been a penalty wasn't. You run full speed into a player to force them out of bounds.
I couldn't even tell what constitutes a targeting or roughing penalty anymore. I know the definitions, but it feels like it really just comes down to whether or not the ref thinks you hit the guy too hard. Becoming more and more unwatchable imo.
They were reviewing if it was a legal hit. Unfortunately with all the concussion stories theyve over reacted and penalties are crazy. You guys should really look to react to “worst roughing the passer calls” from these last couple seasons.
9:19 you need to find a breakdown of the entire situation. I can’t remember what it was exactly, but there was something controversial a down or two just before Clowny made that play.
Idk if they use the terms freshman and senior n stuff in the UK but a true freshman is an 18 year old, players only get to play fot 4 years so some of them "redshirt" their freshman year eo that they can build the muscle to play college football but true freshmen are playing college football fresh out of high-school
The helmet to helmet thing is highly situational........big boom even with the helmet to the side' one or more head snapping baci, almost always a flag.
That hit from the red shirt white pants player on the white shirt red pants player was illegal! That's dangerous and he would be ejected from the game today! I hope the guy that took the hit gets a new coloring book and a box of crayons every yr for that hit
To be clear: absolutely no one knows the full extent of how all these targeting/personal foul penalty rules are supposed to be interpreted, because precedent in the calling of the penalty in referees across the country constantly changes.
3:25 even announcers thought the refs made a bad call. it was shoulder to chest a clean tackle. if he is hit while running with the ball its a tackle... block is hitting someone who is not holding the ball... 6:40 it was 3rd and 8 and they where to far out for field goal so he was trying to get the first down. if they where in field goal range then he probable would have slid...
When y'all were talking about the "targeting" call @ 3:50, you were correct you cannot use the "crown" or top of the helmet like you said but additionally in the rule there can be no contact to the head or neck area of an opponent.
6:48 So you are right, QB's can slide to end the play. Unfortunately, as a Penn State fan, Clifford was a long-term starter, 6 years at the program due to COVID 😂So not really inexperience, just a bad play on his part
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The targeting foul they called on the Ohio state guy was a bad call. He led with his shoulder and kept his helmet to the side, as opposed to using it as a weapon and leading with it.
As time marches along, the NFL, along with the NCAA have adopted rules to penalize blind side blocks and tackles. In the case of a receiver trying to catch a pass, (even into the early 2000's) you had to watch out for head hunting Safeties! Check out the best safeties of all time or even just Ronnie Lott! That was a bad man back in the day. That would be called hitting a defenseless player! It's a newer rule. Past 10 yrs. Some of these hits predate the rule change!
@4:00 Denzel Ward's hit was just a bad call by the refs. If you don't lead with the crown of the helmet or target the head you should be good. A lot of times guys hit someone high with a shoulder and you see the other guy's head flop back but it's not necessarily a penalty. Or it shouldn't be at least.
We must remember that all tackles like these were perfectly legal for over a hundred years until the recent rule changes. ...I remember playing pop-warner (youth football), junior high, and high school football in the 1980s and always thinking it was cool whenever we had the helmet mark from an opposing players helmet. It was a tougher time back then.
The Penn State-Auburn QB run: the QB can slide down but he needed the 1st down which was still about a yard away. If he slides, the spot of the ball will be where he initiates the slide, not where he touches down. If he slid he stood no chance of making the 1st down, so he went for it and lost.