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Merril Hoge joins Colin Cowherd on The Herd to talk the 2024 NFL quarterback draft class, and which NFL teams might be interested in drafting these prospects early. The Denver Broncos are more than likely on the market, and Colin asks Hoge to weigh in on whether Bo Nix could be a good replacement for Russell Wilson. Then they turn to the Chicago Bears, who believe Caleb Williams has some Patrick Mahomes-like qualities.
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@TheHerdOnFS1
@TheHerdOnFS1 3 месяца назад
Watch The Joel Klatt Show: A College Football Podcast: bit.ly/JoelKlattShow
@hardybooks
@hardybooks 2 месяца назад
Bo Nix is my favorite QB in this year’s draft. Lots of college reps and courage.
@jbmixes
@jbmixes 3 месяца назад
How does he go from hating on Drake Maye to then saying Kenny Pickett has the skillset to win a championship 😭
@baconbigbeats
@baconbigbeats 3 месяца назад
Wellllll he’s a Steelers guy sooooo yeah.
@kylermichael3972
@kylermichael3972 3 месяца назад
He actually works for the Steelers still so he is biased.
@nicks4021
@nicks4021 3 месяца назад
@jbmixes8368 glad someone else heard that. I can safely throw away everything this guy said, well most of it. He makes good point about what quarterback should be. His evaluations on this class are weak and I can tell he's not watching enough tape to make an eval. Just enough so he can have clickbait opinion on radio row. Then he dropped to his knees for Pickett and I almost fell outta my chair.
@baconbigbeats
@baconbigbeats 3 месяца назад
@@nicks4021 agreed. #1 rule in hearing someone’s opinion: consider the source. :)
@briankelly7978
@briankelly7978 3 месяца назад
I’ve listened to him talk about QBs he’s pretty bad at accessing them
@Zach-hm6ky
@Zach-hm6ky 3 месяца назад
Bo's ability to change the play at the line was a massive advantage for us all year. He is smart. He's a leader. Most importantly, he loves football. Gonna be a good QB in the NFL if he can get to the right coach.
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 3 месяца назад
We seen him crumble in the SEC. He did well in his the PAC12, but it’s just the PAC12. He also was pretty average at the Senior Bowl.
@Thedog9
@Thedog9 3 месяца назад
Merril also said that Andrew luck was going to be a bust, it was a mistake for Seattle to draft Wilson, and that Watson was a college QB. Plus he said mahomes was going to be bust.
@jmoney6043
@jmoney6043 3 месяца назад
Has he ever been right? 😂😂
@samuelgoma1373
@samuelgoma1373 3 месяца назад
@@jmoney6043yes
@pauliej345
@pauliej345 3 месяца назад
He also said Brian Brohm was a better QB than Aaron Rodgers. He had Jacob Eason as second best QB in 2018 draft right behind Burrow. He had Herbert ranked 5th lol
@wilfbreezy333
@wilfbreezy333 3 месяца назад
These guys are terrible
@hawkman2k7
@hawkman2k7 3 месяца назад
@@jmoney6043yes he has. He was right about Clowney, Khalil Mack and Manziel.
@TheYobo1016
@TheYobo1016 3 месяца назад
Not an Oregon homer(UW actually), but Nix is being incredibly underrated. Someone is going to get a very good qb.
@DoctorBrueckner
@DoctorBrueckner Месяц назад
He and Penix are going to go to better teams than the other guys. I really like them both.
@Bleed_Burgundy_Piss_Gold
@Bleed_Burgundy_Piss_Gold 3 месяца назад
I don’t agree with everything Merril says but he gives it to you uncut regardless.
@jferg8956
@jferg8956 3 месяца назад
Last Oregon qb they doubted turned into Justin Herbert
@larryking2698
@larryking2698 3 месяца назад
seems like theres a drew brees in every one of the classes now a days. Tua, then mac, then bryce young and now Bo nix lmao.
@jameshollister8294
@jameshollister8294 3 месяца назад
He always talks to Sean Payton so I think that's the pick
@jacjr6193
@jacjr6193 3 месяца назад
Basically an undersized QB who’s known for accuracy. Oh hey look it’s Drew Brees
@ThatRobSchwartz
@ThatRobSchwartz 3 месяца назад
More Merril. This guy is a genius. And he and Colin have great chemistry
@erikwill2891
@erikwill2891 3 месяца назад
Merril is a beast guest. Keep him coming back on Colin
@blessembreaks
@blessembreaks 3 месяца назад
he wants to take credit for CJ. He never called CJ special, just said he was worthy of a first rd pick. Caleb is special and will make Merrill look like an idiot
@KeyonMoffitt101
@KeyonMoffitt101 3 месяца назад
Dudes always wrong , said Rodgers wouldn’t be good , Herbert , luck
@jroaduri
@jroaduri 3 месяца назад
Merril needs to be back on TV regularly
@TheJaJe.
@TheJaJe. 3 месяца назад
Dude needs to be banned from opening his mouth again 😂 geezer is wrong about EVERY qb every year
@johnnyguitarwatson5288
@johnnyguitarwatson5288 3 месяца назад
When i hear merrill hodge i turn off all the tools in the garage!
@gorgan4714
@gorgan4714 3 месяца назад
Did I miss the JJ McCarthy section lol?
@trvstrx1774
@trvstrx1774 3 месяца назад
I got you bro Here’s the section 🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️
@glennbelcher1222
@glennbelcher1222 3 месяца назад
I was curious to hear his take. I think JJ is being slept on.
@darinsmith2458
@darinsmith2458 3 месяца назад
When Mahomes hurt himself 2 seasons ago I think it actually helped his progression..
@donsaderfield83
@donsaderfield83 3 месяца назад
Hoge is really good hope you have him on more.
@southsidetone
@southsidetone 3 месяца назад
He needs his own podcast or segment on a show weekly
@aboveSubparBallAnalysis
@aboveSubparBallAnalysis 3 месяца назад
Pats need to study QBs under big pressure take brisset in free agency and byyld a line and te room
@King_osei
@King_osei 3 месяца назад
As a Skins/Commanders fan, if we can’t get Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels or Bo Nix is the next best choices. If they don’t draft either, I’m turning my fan card in and looking for a new team.
@hardybooks
@hardybooks 3 месяца назад
Bo Nix should be #1. To process well, a QB needs great courage. Bo Nix has courage.
@hardybooks
@hardybooks 2 месяца назад
Amen. Should be #1.
@wildman24jg
@wildman24jg 2 месяца назад
He's a Future bronco
@russellsnead3977
@russellsnead3977 3 месяца назад
Hoge always tells the truth
@sh19413
@sh19413 3 месяца назад
Kind of weird how he didn’t talk about Russ and pivoted to Pickett. Doesn’t seem like an honest take
@TJB270
@TJB270 3 месяца назад
Williams & Mahomes both came from the same systems. There are a ton of similarities between the two coming out of college, and they share the same traits as to why certain analysts aren’t/weren’t sold on them. Mahomes went to a much better situation though, so it was good of Hoge to point that out. Will be interesting to see, but I think Williams & Daniels are the top two coming out of this draft
@Izthefaithful
@Izthefaithful 3 месяца назад
He’s not wrong Addison been awesome in Minnesota
@jjgreen5206
@jjgreen5206 2 месяца назад
I am a Merrill fan. He’s the only one with the guts to question Boston Universities monopoly on CTE research
@MadSUPANOVA
@MadSUPANOVA 3 месяца назад
I find Caleb closer in style of play to Jalen Hurts, but Caleb has that zip on the ball, it comes out.. but he will need a solid Oline. He reads downfield well. Sheduer and Caleb the most accurate college QB's I've seen... they just need a monster Oline.
@colenaber7409
@colenaber7409 3 месяца назад
Idk if I've watched an interview with Merril before, but I agree with what everyone else says. This guy is great! In my best Black Panther voice, "Get this man a podcast."
@ronthibault1853
@ronthibault1853 3 месяца назад
Good stuff - great QB breakdown !
@austinhackett6254
@austinhackett6254 3 месяца назад
Bro trashes Drake Maye and has plenty of negative to say about Caleb Williams, and then goes through the mental gymnastics to say Kenny Pickett has special traits.
@ko9655
@ko9655 3 месяца назад
How long have you been watching quarterbacks?
@austinhackett6254
@austinhackett6254 3 месяца назад
@@ko9655 long enough to know he has nowhere near the same level talent as Caleb Williams or Drake Maye.
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 3 месяца назад
Kenny does have something that Caleb does not have: mental toughness.
@austinhackett6254
@austinhackett6254 3 месяца назад
@@cperkins5050 blah blah blah intangible this intangible that. Have you ever met Caleb, or are you basing that off 5 seconds you saw of him after a game? You know what Caleb has that Kenny doesn’t? TALENT. All anyone can say positively about Kenny is intangibles, because he has no tangible traits.
@cc-92
@cc-92 3 месяца назад
@@cperkins5050KP is trash, I hope the Steelers keep him as a Bengals fan.
@timmytv7554
@timmytv7554 3 месяца назад
Colon judges the economy strength based on how many people he sees skiing in Utah. Things like cost of food, electricity or heat are for the poors to worry about.
@Mr.Chuck_DGC
@Mr.Chuck_DGC 3 месяца назад
Serious question. Is Caleb going to be “tough” enough to play in Chicago? It’s not like playing in LA. Has to be a consideration doesn’t it?
@louisloother301
@louisloother301 Месяц назад
No 😂😂😂 He is a stout guy. Weather/ climate is irrelevant nowadays
@donhello7522
@donhello7522 3 месяца назад
im just here for Colin's economic advice
@SamuraiGaming24678
@SamuraiGaming24678 3 месяца назад
lmfao
@bostonmorgan3033
@bostonmorgan3033 3 месяца назад
Bo Nix moving into the Mogul State
@screamoutloud23
@screamoutloud23 3 месяца назад
Take a shot everytime Merril says "National Football League"
@MrSmelly13cat
@MrSmelly13cat 3 месяца назад
damm, thats the best QB analysis I've heard all off season
@kaliboi2475
@kaliboi2475 3 месяца назад
What? 😂
@CDubb442
@CDubb442 3 месяца назад
Merril is right about one thing the Chiefs had the perfect situation for Mahomes the only team with a similar situation is the Vikings they’ll never trade that pick to the Vikings
@scottgood7888
@scottgood7888 3 месяца назад
I believe that Bo Nix is without a doubt the surest bet to succeed at the next level among all the QBs being talked about. Mature, married, grounded, experienced, mobile, great leader, and a live arm. Oh and the highest completion % on college football history.
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 3 месяца назад
In the PAC12. He did nothing in the SEC. We will see.
@scottgood7888
@scottgood7888 3 месяца назад
@@cperkins5050 Did nothing? You're obviously confusing Nix with someone else. We're obviously not watching the same games.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 месяца назад
Drake Maye scares me. Looks like Zach Wilson to me.
@hughjazz17
@hughjazz17 2 месяца назад
Nothing wrong with Zach Wilson. You can't draft talent that you know needs to be developed and then be confused why the player isn't great day 1. That's on the jets. Zach Wilson in SF or with Andy Reid isn't a bust. Where your drafted and the stupidity of teams affect your career. The jets from day 1 had no line. No run game after hall got hurt. No weapons. Terrible vanilla play calling yhen blamed him for everything yet they were still mediocre without him in. What did the hc and oc develop? QBs don't fail under Reid and most are successful under Shanahan. Salah and brian s in new york are trash. If you can't develop talent its on you as a staff
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 2 месяца назад
@hughjazz17 Wilson can not read NFL defenses at all. Blame that on coaching or whatever else. Do you really believe that Maye will get better coaching with the Pat's or Washington?
@jimfrider6778
@jimfrider6778 3 месяца назад
Keep showing Merril. Love the guy.
@JBullock54
@JBullock54 3 месяца назад
The term “pro-style offense” is so vague & outdated. It used to apply to teams that ran a lot of 21 & 12 personnel with the QB under center more. With how the game has evolved over the past 10 years to more Shotgun snaps/spread looks, that term has changed, so if/when scouts use that term, just know that it means the QB needs to be able to make plays from the pocket consistently.
@TJB270
@TJB270 3 месяца назад
The term “spread” is vague too. A lot of NFL teams use spread looks nowadays consistently, it’s just the spread option focused teams or spread teams in college that rely on a QB not having to make as many plays in the pocket that analysts are referring to. That’s the reason Mahomes fell & why Hoge isn’t 100 % sold on Williams.
@ryanwhite9437
@ryanwhite9437 3 месяца назад
Merril is awesome. Wish the big media networks would have continued the love they used to show him.
@oceanblue22
@oceanblue22 3 месяца назад
Be interesting to know who he has endorsed as a first round grade prior to the draft over the last five years.
@themoneyman1752
@themoneyman1752 3 месяца назад
MERRIL START A RU-vid CHANNEL PLEASE!! We def need your draft analysis, I wonder what he thinks about Odunze
@brooksorlando4510
@brooksorlando4510 3 месяца назад
He has been right a lot. Even with Clowney vs Mack, which he took a lot of heat for. Remember though, he did think Brian Brohm would end up replacing Rodgers when he was drafted in 08...so they all miss haha
@DigitalSpital
@DigitalSpital 3 месяца назад
they all miss, but I enjoy that Merril goes against the status quo when it's warranted and not just to go against it
@brooksorlando4510
@brooksorlando4510 3 месяца назад
@@DigitalSpital Oh for sure man. I typically agree with him too. He's been wrong at times too though..we all have. Even though I've been right on a lot of guys, I admittedly thought Jameis and Rosen were gonna be great. We're all human. It's not Madden.
@DigitalSpital
@DigitalSpital 3 месяца назад
@@brooksorlando4510 Rosens probably my biggest miss I've ever had on a guy
@brooksorlando4510
@brooksorlando4510 3 месяца назад
@@DigitalSpital lol glad I'm not alone man. I thought he was gonna be the next Aikman...idk what happened there. I guess Cardinals experience just ruined him mentally
@DigitalSpital
@DigitalSpital 3 месяца назад
@@brooksorlando4510 yea I thought for sure he'd be the best in the class, boy was I wrong
@PouonoHB
@PouonoHB 3 месяца назад
Love this analysis by Hoge! College system compared to a NFL system and the pocket explanation. Love it
@derwinstephens7031
@derwinstephens7031 3 месяца назад
Merrill is one of the best,makes a lot sense
@redpatriotnews
@redpatriotnews 3 месяца назад
It's always exciting to see discussions around potential draft picks, especially when it involves quarterback talents like Bo Nix, Caleb Williams, and J.J. McCarthy. These players have shown incredible skill and promise in their college careers, and it's thrilling to speculate how they could shape the future for teams like the Broncos and Bears. Each player brings a unique set of strengths to the table, and it's fascinating to imagine how they might fit into the NFL's dynamic environment. The draft process is a pivotal time for teams to build their strategy and foundation for the coming years, and adding a talented quarterback can be a game-changer. Here's to hoping whichever teams land these promising athletes see great success in their future endeavors!
@LJDS1979
@LJDS1979 3 месяца назад
Hoge....another personality ESPN should have kept. Outstanding take as always with him.
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 3 месяца назад
Merrill is not a puppet and he makes his own ideas. Right or wrong, he stands on his comments.
@BlackBoy-om2us
@BlackBoy-om2us 3 месяца назад
One of ones know, “you have a sill here and a sill here which creates an alley,” for your back.
@DoctorBrueckner
@DoctorBrueckner Месяц назад
Has Hoge ever been right? He thought Luck and Herbert would be busts.
@user-sk7jt3pf1c
@user-sk7jt3pf1c Месяц назад
Up until a year ago, tv pundits were still predicting Trey Lance and Justin Fields were MVP candidates. The NFL didn’t even think they were worth a late round pick.
@specopbookie
@specopbookie 2 месяца назад
Broncos take Nix at 12. He’s good.
@manoftheyear6197
@manoftheyear6197 3 месяца назад
Mr Hoge not thinking Caleb Williams is special is crazy
@cperkins5050
@cperkins5050 3 месяца назад
In fairness, he played in the 90’s and he is not getting on anyone’s hype train. He’s seen 35 of the generational QB’s of the past 30 or so years. So it will be a bit tougher to impress him.
@iamdemetrius7180
@iamdemetrius7180 Месяц назад
Hodge was right about Manzell & Clowney
@ashtonward3823
@ashtonward3823 3 месяца назад
Keep Merrill on I love to see him embarrass himself on television
@hoi-polloi
@hoi-polloi 3 месяца назад
Kenny Pickett prop is crazy😂💀
@Jeremy-cg9re
@Jeremy-cg9re 3 месяца назад
I like Merrill & would love to hear his take on Tyson Bagent
@johnwillard6198
@johnwillard6198 3 месяца назад
❤ Mr Hoge
@redpatriotnews
@redpatriotnews 3 месяца назад
Navigating through the potential quarterback draft options for teams like the Broncos and Bears can be such an exciting time for fans! Bo Nix, Caleb Williams, and J.J. McCarthy each bring their own unique skills and potential to the table, making this draft class conversation especially intriguing. It's great to see such talented athletes getting the recognition they deserve and sparking discussions among fans and analysts alike. The journey from college to the NFL is no small feat, and these players have shown incredible dedication and talent to even be considered in these conversations. Whatever the outcome, it’s clear the future of the NFL is bright with such promising talents on the horizon. Let's keep an eye on these players as they transition to the next level of their careers!
@scottrowlandrowland1098
@scottrowlandrowland1098 3 месяца назад
This guy just bashes on everyone, he said mahomes was a second round qb. Most qbs are busts so its a safe approach.
@TheBlckmagic93
@TheBlckmagic93 3 месяца назад
This was an excellent breakdown by Merril. He's definitely gotta get on the show more.
@Krycek21
@Krycek21 3 месяца назад
Sleeper team for Fields, Seattle
@louisloother301
@louisloother301 Месяц назад
KENNY PICKETT..... WTF IS HE SAYING 😂😂😂😂
@lderozen
@lderozen 3 месяца назад
I like the idea of JJ McCarthy with Sean Payton. Think Bo Nix is intriguing as well
@Biz613
@Biz613 3 месяца назад
In Merril I trust.
@missile87redefined25
@missile87redefined25 3 месяца назад
Didn’t Colin say Maye would be a Herbert type guy lol?
@verlongates2279
@verlongates2279 2 месяца назад
Cmon Colin: You're the same guy who conceded two national championships to U.S.C. when Lincoln Riley and Caleb Williams showed up, and NOW, you say Caleb is ultra special because he was on a bad team and still did well. PICK ONE, and then stick with it.
@mathewerenberger7275
@mathewerenberger7275 2 месяца назад
When they say hes similar to Patrick Mahomes, what they really mean is he's similar to Matthew Stafford.
@clarkbowen8158
@clarkbowen8158 2 месяца назад
I think Daniels is the best pure passer in this draft. Best long ball, best runner too. He's fast and elusive, playmaker. Put on about ten or fifteen pounds and he'll be special. Maybe give him a redshirt year
@NiteVibeScribe
@NiteVibeScribe 3 месяца назад
Did they talk about Jayden?
@youtubesvengali9120
@youtubesvengali9120 3 месяца назад
So Hoge likes Pickett but dislikes the rest of the QBs lmao. Let me guess he also liked Mac Jones
@billshun3963
@billshun3963 3 месяца назад
Mac Jones himself is not the main reason why he failed.
@puremakai
@puremakai 3 месяца назад
He don’t want Russ to be a steeler 😂😂
@TDogg-yw3ww
@TDogg-yw3ww 3 месяца назад
Anthony Richardson was 100% worth a first round pick. Dude is raw and still looked like he’s going to be an absolute problem for teams to defend. He just need to avoid taking so many big hits
@Buddystemz
@Buddystemz 3 месяца назад
When did Tom hanks become an analyst?
@abel3694
@abel3694 3 месяца назад
Everyone mentions mahomes cuz they know that’s what the nfl wants to hear 😂
@michaelshane405
@michaelshane405 3 месяца назад
Hoge had Mitch Trubiski as QB 1 in 2017. He had a second round grade on Mahommes.
@NoobPrinze406
@NoobPrinze406 3 месяца назад
So Caleb Williams is nothing special but Kenny Pickett skill set can take the Steelers to the superbowl …hmmmm…
@rubearch24
@rubearch24 3 месяца назад
Qb could great going one place or a bust to another
@MadSUPANOVA
@MadSUPANOVA 3 месяца назад
We all saw what happened to Mahomes behind a weak Oline. TB12 can tell us about that Tampa Superbowl story 😅
@garinsparks7041
@garinsparks7041 3 месяца назад
Bears, you know what to do!!!!
@n8-sofresh
@n8-sofresh 3 месяца назад
Caleb is a slightly faster Baker... not a bad thing
@djtotalpackagehd8516
@djtotalpackagehd8516 3 месяца назад
Bring back Merril
@AWBATC
@AWBATC 3 месяца назад
In my opinion if Michael penix jr go to Miami at 21 it would be like dan Marino going to Miami late in 1983 in my opinion.
@mbob67
@mbob67 3 месяца назад
“Caleb isn’t special and also Kenny Pickett can win a championship” 😂
@tb2704
@tb2704 3 месяца назад
I’m glad Merril doesn’t use that vague, outdated term “pro style offense.” It’s a misnomer. Just evaluating if they can play from the pocket consistently or not.
@mysteryman2405
@mysteryman2405 3 месяца назад
Merril "Alligator eyes" Hoge
@andrewpaul3235
@andrewpaul3235 3 месяца назад
If you can't improve players such as he said with Maye than why do coaches exist? Evidence to the contrary: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love...
@Jones_92
@Jones_92 3 месяца назад
I think Seahawks should draft Nix
@johnhuston650
@johnhuston650 2 месяца назад
All I know is this is the best year Denver could have hoped for to replace their overpaid QB. I don’t see any thing wrong with many of them in the Draft. Broncos got LUCKY!
@andrewwatson8591
@andrewwatson8591 3 месяца назад
Good lord dude call it the NFL “ the national football league” “ the national football league”
@sportstalkdetroit
@sportstalkdetroit 3 месяца назад
Merrill looks 41 and 81 at the same time
@halkyles9507
@halkyles9507 3 месяца назад
Why didn't you ask which QB he likes in this draft class?
@treydezellem27
@treydezellem27 3 месяца назад
Hoge is correct on a vast majority of his takes when it comes to the draft. I trust him and Klatt the vast majority of the time, on this I go with Hoge over Klatt. Williams is good but underwhelming
@catdaddy2287
@catdaddy2287 3 месяца назад
Kenny’s mom doesn’t even believe in him
@cinescarehorrorpodcast5675
@cinescarehorrorpodcast5675 3 месяца назад
Kenny Pickett?? Wow. He thinks Caleb isn’t special. Ok, his opinion. It goes against the massive consensus, but fine. But Kenny Pickett can win a Super Bowl??? Sweet Jesus.
@LARRY113Z
@LARRY113Z 3 месяца назад
Book comes out and so do his hot takes lol
@Adam-hj6vn
@Adam-hj6vn Месяц назад
Merril Hodge, Drew Brees was 6.0., That is one inch shorter than Bo Nix.
@TonydaGM
@TonydaGM 3 месяца назад
Drake Maye Daniels, Mccarthy top 10 , Penix late 1st because of injury are the only QB's I would take in this draft. I would trade the pick if they were not available. Nix can't go 1st rd. He played catch from a protected pocket .
@justingagnier1394
@justingagnier1394 2 месяца назад
lol. They got Russell Wilson and traded Pickett.
@tyreesetoomer13
@tyreesetoomer13 3 месяца назад
He’s a runningback … who is all of a sudden is qb professional
@sosaataee1879
@sosaataee1879 3 месяца назад
Hoge Bryce young is nice no way around it. Stroud is just in a way better situation
@foxhoundandthehound7527
@foxhoundandthehound7527 3 месяца назад
Uncle Colin? So we wanting to be like Shannon Sharpe now 🤣
@Whyyallsomadfa
@Whyyallsomadfa 3 месяца назад
I know Bryce small but he kept saying 5’9 I’m sure he like 5”10 closer to 5”11
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