"BRUISERS" 👊TRAXXAS XMAXX vs ARRMA OUTCAST 8s 

Thanks so much Thomas 🤗. I'm not exactly a spring chicken myself anymore 😂. That's one thing I love about this hobby, there's no age limit. Happy bashing Brother 🍻😎💪👊👊

It's never too late 😁

Thanks so much Jeremiah 😜!!!! The stakes are a little higher with the bigger rigs, but that's a huge part of the rush 😍. These suckers are moving nicely with proper power and are simply a Blast to go rip bigger terrain with. Truly appreciate it Brother!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Truly appreciate it. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Chris 🤗. Super appreciate the kind words. 🍻😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 serious about that Sir. We talked about building the 6s kraton diffs years ago because I kept breaking them. Glad to see these bruisers because we are thinking about the big kraton now.

Thanks Mike. Much appreciated Brother!!! 😎💪👊👊

Thanks Brother!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother Aaron 😜!!!! I'd been wanting to do a comparison vid for awhile. Both rigs feel fast as heck. The 5687 feels perfect in the lighter XMaxx. Actually felt great in Big Red too before my first one blew up 😱🤣🤣. I won't buy another Leo 5898. Tons of torque, but just isn't easy to make subtle corrections with from throttle to brake. Doesn't have that smoothness like Hobbywing and Hobbystar. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Rudy 🤗. Grateful for the upgrade options 💪. Happy bashing Brother!!! 😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother Dennis 😜. No question M2C has completely transformed Green Bertha 😱. The brace has been such a game changer 💪. So stoked the chassis issues are gone. Had a Blast with both rigs 🚀🚀. Big Red is a tad rough with the Leo, but there's no shortage of power 😂. Grateful to get out again. Been hectic around here lately. Really appreciate it Brother. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊

Thanks Brother 🤗. I've grown fond of upgraded Green Bertha and her fun factor, but Big Red is just Badass through and through. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother!!!! 🤗. Yeah I love both trucks 😍. The XMaxx is definitely way lighter and rides taller by design. She flicks around nicely, but so does Big Red. 🍻😎💪👊👊

That sucks Brother 😂. Plastic is great until it explodes 😝. So far the HR bellcrank is doing Killer. Same for the HR diff cover and suspension tie plates under the skids. Just glad we have aftermarket options. 😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 yea, I’ve broken quite a few diff covers as well 😂 I haven’t upgraded much on the Xmaxx. The outcast 8s got more than its fair share though! Now I’m scared do drive it after I added up the cost of the whole build... don’t ever do that if you’re planning to abuse a rig 😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

The 1100kv is lighter and faster for top speeds (better mid-top range). I'm able to get more wheelspin with lower gearing vs running an 800kv that requires 1/1 gearing. Honestly, 1100kv feels about perfect for both trucks 👍. The Hobbystar 980kv 56112 was also great in my 08s, but it felt better suited in the bigger Kraton. 😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 thank you that helped me make a biiig decision for my O8s you’re the man 👍

I do a lot of scouting and driving around. Google Earth maps can be super helpful to look for potential spots from home too 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much dear Kimberly 😍. Green Bertha has gone through some serious changes 😱🥰🥰. Thanks to M2C I can bash about as hard as I want without fear of rebuilding her every outing 😂. The HR and Vitavon bits (and sage advice from our wonderful bashing community) has helped Big-time also!!!! Had a Blast with both trucks. 😘😘😎💪👊👊

You forgot about vitavon Kimberly! 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

Thanks so much Brother Avery 😜!!!! Your parts have completely changed what's possible with Green Bertha 🚀🚀. So nice not having to replace composite chassis's or have runs cut short from breakages. Thanks for everything you and Mitch do for our hobby. 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother Rocky 😜. Yeah I was pressed for time that first session 😂 It felt great to get the rigs sorted and enjoy a beautiful afternoon with Bertha and Big Red 😍. M2C has been such a blessing and game changer for our hobby. Bertha has come a long ways the past few months thanks to the hop ups 💪. Really appreciate it Brother!!! 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother 😜. Happy bashing as always!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Shaun 🤗. The 8s rigs are Killer on bigger terrain. Definitely a different bashing experience. 😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much for the kind words Brother 🤗. Truly appreciate it. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother 😜. Yes I'm still running 30/39 gearing in Big Red 😍. She'll wheelie up pretty easily with my Leo 5898, but I just ease into and feather the throttle most times. The Masher X HP's will keep her more planted no question. Extremely fast wheels. They have good bite overall, but don't balloon to pop the front up so easily. The 8s Spectrum electronics are actually very impressive 👀. Sounds like she's running strong Brother. 🍻😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 thanks rich. Yes sir she is running great. I'm very impressed with those electronics myself. Might gear her down alittle if I can't get my control an s power down. Thanks for the input brother 👊 yeah I definitely need alittle more practice Maybe a 27T would be better. Keep up the hood bashing.

Thanks so much David 🤗. Yeah the XMaxx has become a money pit overall 😂 but I'm stoked to see her transformation with the M2C and other bits. Big Red is a damn Monster 😱. The weight penalty doesn't matter. With the right set-up she's in a league of her own. Really appreciate it Brother!!!! 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much my friend 🤗. The fun factor of the XMaxx is undeniable 😱🤣🤣. So stoked she's holding together consistently thanks to some key upgrades 💪. It's been a learning experience for sure. Both trucks are a complete Blast!!! Each has it's unique qualities 😍. So grateful for the variety we have available and to the aftermarkets for the wonderful upgrade options. Bash on Brother!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Edvin 🤗. Really appreciate the kind words. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so very much Brother Chris 😜!!!! I'd been waiting to get both big girls out together for awhile 🤣. So pressed for time lately between work and family 😍. Felt KILLER to get them both running tight and mix up a few spots. The O8s is my personal favorite no question 🥰🥰. She handles like no other and takes an absolute beating 👀. Huge thanks so M2C for fortifying both platforms 💪. Bertha is finally holding her own thanks to Mitch and Avery's ingenious designs. Stoked about the HR servo saver/bellcrank 😱. The fitment was perfect and the steering feels dialed now. I wanted to peak in the suitcase, but it had been opened already and I didn't want to find anything sketchy 😂. Really appreciate the kind words Brother!!!! 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much David 🤗. Truly appreciate it Brother. Happy bashing!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊

I actually never looked 👀🤣🤣. Yeah I was curious, but someone had already opened it and I just wanted to keep bashing. 🍻

Thanks Brother 👊. Not sure I'll be getting a Sledge. Contrary to claims the truck doesn't need upgrades, I already know the 6061 formed chassis and braces have limitations. For 800$, the truck will become a pricey 1/8 project to make truly durable for extreme bashing, plus replacing a questionable VLX ESC. The arms do look pretty beefy though 👀. We'll see. 😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 I am sure you are right, personally I think the Kraton EXB seems like the best bang for buck for a 1/8 truggy. Nice to see a bit of competition though. :)

Thanks so much Raul 🤗. I try and share helpful tidbits without babbling on too much 🤣. Truly appreciate your warm comment Brother. 🍻😎💪👊👊

LMFAO 😂

That's awesome Andy 😜. Sometimes seemingly small tuning changes make a huge difference in handling and performance 👀. The K6s is such a Killer all around Beast. Props to you on ramping the punch up and going for it. That skills park sound like a Blast!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Rick 🤗. Yeah I love that spot too 😍. It's awesome for these bigger rigs. Hopefully get the 6s rigs out again tomorrow. 🍻😎💪👊👊

LMFAO 😂. Thanks dear Brother 😍. That's the perfect description of these trucks. Bertha sounds like a wrecking ball taking a building down 🤣🤣😎💪👊👊

Thanks so very much dear Brother Thomas 😍. Had a Blast with both trucks 🤗. So glad they're both running strong. Hope you're feeling better soon my friend. 🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Bro 👊. Yeah I definitely broke my stuff quick at the lake 😱🤣🤣. It's funny cuz I didn't bust anything besides blowing that tire afterwards. That suitcase spot is WAY rougher than it looks too. Stoked the XMaxx is finally feeling dialed and reliable with the M2C and other upgrades 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Bryan 🤗. Truly appreciate the kind words. I think 60's is the new 40's 🤣. Stay healthy and have fun Brother!!! That's what matters. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Richard 🤗. Much appreciated Brother!!!🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Tee 🤗. Happy bashing Brother 🍻😎💪👊👊

I've heard mixed reviews about the Traxxas wide kit 🤔. It does looks awesome though 👀. My bash buddy Dave is running it. Still waiting to see how the shafts and arms hold up. I'm happy with the 30mm width gain. The M2C Hexs and Sure Lock nuts are brilliant compared to the stock Traxxas set-up. No C-clip plastic turd hexes to pry off. Thank goodness M2C has put their expertise and design genius to work with the platform. 🍻

Huge Congrats on your 08s Brother 😱. Such a great rig 😍. Age is just a number in our hobby. Enjoy it too the fullest my friend. Truly appreciate the kind words. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much David 🤗. I'm running alloy diff covers on my XMaxx because the stock plastic ones are ridiculously thin and cracked almost every time out 💩. Still running stock diff cases on my ARRMA 8s rigs and several of my 6s rigs. The Hot Racing 6s bulkheads have been my great through the years 💪. The new Basherqueen 7075 ones have done excellent so far as well. Not sure they're back listed in stock on her eBay store. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Hopefully try them out soon 👍. Yeah I think the gearing will be way too high for the HW1650.

Thanks so much Jon 😜!!!! Indeed... it's such a rush sending these huge Beasts 😱🤣🤣. I'm still shocked Big Red can move like she does at her size and weight. 🍻😎💪👊👊

@@Shadows-RC honestly the footprint on stuff like the Xr8 Pro or the castle mmx 6s isn't too bad. When I say 1/10 I'm talking arrma 3s chassis and a 1/10 scale drift car so I guess it's technically cheating anyway.

Thanks so much John 😜!!!! Big Red had been parked way too long. No question she's an absolute Beast 😱. The 5898 Leopard isn't the smoothest, but it's got gobs of torque and is running cool even with taller gears and big wheels. Stoked for this weekend!!!! See you soon Brother 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Awesome to hear you're loving your O8s too!!! Such a huge, capable Beast. Agreed 100% on more basher events 👍. Would be cool if Horizon and other companies help get some organized. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Andrew 🤗. Yeah it's important to remember how big and heavy these Beasts are 😱. Clipping a curb or landing awkwardly usually means a bad outcome with all the extra mass 😂. The O8s is a wonderful Beast😍. So is the K8s King 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother Eric 🤗. It felt awesome to get back out with the Big girls running tight 😍. I was pressed for time at the lake and broke both the trucks landing like a turd 😂. Always the smaller stuff that snaps parts 😱🤣🤣. Super happy with both power setups. The Leo 5898 is far from smooth, but it's got crazy torque and nice top speed with 30/39 gearing. Green Bertha is doing great with the M2C goodies 💪. Yeah she handles like a box on wheels 😂, but she's holding together and moving Killer with her current setup. So far I'm impressed with the HR bellcrank. Definitely a huge gain with the steering. Big Red is definitely my favorite 🥰🥰. So much more planted. Really appreciate the kind words Brother!!! Hope the weather cooperates for us as we move into spring. 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

I think it looks pretty nice 👀. Seems like Corally is stepping up. 🍻

Thanks Brother 🍻😎💪👊👊

It fits with the 56 Series ARRMA 8s motor plate. Same one that comes with the EXB 8s kits. www.amazon.com/ARRMA-Aluminum-Motor-Plate-ARA320591/dp/B08Y4F9DH3/ref=asc_df_B08Y4F9DH3/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=533376926530&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17516415453822700047&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032516&hvtargid=pla-1395141064548&psc=1

Thanks so much Aldo 🤗. Truly appreciate it. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Brother 🤗. You're right, it didn't seem bad and wasn't a big jump. I did notice the wheel snag the ground awkwardly though (fully weighted) and that's what exposes these heavier rigs to breakage. Landing squarely is super important with the bigger trucks. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother Dave 😜!!!! Feels Killer having Green Bertha powered up and holding strong with the upgrades 💪. Huge thanks to Mitch and Avery at M2C for their creative genius 😍. That Outcast arm breakage was 100% me Bro. I kept over rotating with the bigger tires and we know she doesn't like ass landings 🤣🤣. Can't wait to hook up again Brother. 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 wish m2c would have that xmaxx driveshaft available already😉

@@offthehook8989 yeah there was a major delay apparently getting the custom tooling jigs for the splined cups 😝. Good thing is the jigs will enable making hardened outdrives for the dogbones too. Hopefully soon. 😎💪👊👊

Thanks Joshua 🤗. Yes indeed, the Outcast is a Beast. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Brother 🤗. The Outcast was running the bigger 6mm EXB shocks. I normally run M2C pistons plus M2C 7mm shafts with Delrin cartridges, but took them off to clean and rebuild them. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thank you Brother Stephane 😜🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

Thank you Brother 🍻😎💪👊👊

Agreed 100% Brother 👊. It'd be nice if they stepped up their glue quality too. 😎💪👊👊

Maybe, but I think it's overpriced at 800$ for a 1/8 with 6061 chassis and unreliable speed controller. 😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Lee 🤗. The speed should be about the same with the same gearing 👍. There's likely a difference in torque though as the Castle is a 56113 if I'm not mistaken. It should handle the gearing no problem. 🍻😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 appreciate the reply loving the vids got some m2c bits coming can’t wait to bash 😎

Congrats on your EXB Brother 😱!!!! I would honestly just run the truck stock and upgrade as you go as needed. It's already got the bigger EXB shocks and camber links. I can't speak for the chassis because I only ran the longer K8s EXB one myself. It actually did pretty good considering how much abuse it took 😂. Make sure to go through all your hardware. The pillow ball nuts can come loose or even too tight. M2C locking ones with Delrin inserts are the cure for that. Another good idea is running the 7075 brace rod ends if you start breaking yours. Really depends on your needs. 🍻😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 Thanks, I did order the m2c pillow ball nuts because i had that happen on my rtr kraton 8s and bind up the steering. Thanks for the awesome videos brother! I love the way you break down your builds in them. I have learned a lot from them.

Thanks so much Brother Ed 😜!!!! The tire explosion was friggin nuts 😂. I meant to take a peak in the suitcase, but it had already been opened and I didn't want to find anything that would complicate my life any further 🤣🤙🤙😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 hahahaha pmsl at that, totally fair enough reasoning! 🤣

I absolutely love my oc8s and k8s exb I've tried a lot of different setups and settled on the 5694 1200kv sss w 32/39 gearing which allows decent air control on stock tires ( and standing backflips with max5 if solder joints are clean;-)) I'd never get rid of these rigs they're such a pleasure. Thanks for your videos they keep inspiring me and I really enjoy them.

Thanks Michael 👍. Happy bashing Brother. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Brother 🤗. The biggest upgrade is the M2C chassis. It alone is a HUGE strength upgrade for the platform. The EXB 8s and M2C 8s 7mm shock kit option are both significant upgrades over the RTR 5mm 8s shocks. So are the beefier EXB toe links. Total cost depends on electronics and upgrade choices. You can tally up costs based on prospective choices. The chassis kit is around 230$ and electronics just depends. 😎💪👊👊

@@richduperbash2966 is it best to buy a new roller then upgrade to your point.

@@hippywildchildracing that's not a bad idea if the price is right. The stock 8s electronics aren't bad. Just depends on how much power you want. I prefer more torque than the stock system can make.

Thanks so much Brother 😜. The upgrades have been huge for both trucks 🚀🚀. I normally just air compress and do basic maintenance/cleaning and hardware checks after a dry weather bash. After a few dry bashes (and after every weather/mud bash), I rinse off my rigs, spray them with 50/50 mix of water and Simple Green. After a few minutes I rinse them off again, dry with a shop blower, towels, and air compressor. Then I shoot the bearings and hinge pins with Silicone spray and run the truck briefly. That's my basic wash and lube. I'll clean and oil or replace bearings as needed during diff or hub maintenance. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Jordan 😜!!! Big Red did awesome as usual 😍. Had a Blast with both trucks. Grateful to get them out in nice weather. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Brother 🤗. I'm running the same diff weights except using silicone ear plugs in my center diff. I do diff maintenance periodically. I've busted a couple stock rear plastic diff cups. Probably happened from excessive upward strain on the outdrive cup 🤔. That's the only time I've had a gear problem. If you're having hardware issues, I would find some grade 12.9 steel metric replacements. I use lots of upgraded bolts from Monsterbolts.com. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Henning 🤗. The Crusher 8s was about as good as it gets 😍. Truly the original Outcast 8s. Huge Congrats on your Krahave build!!! You're gonna LOVE the handling and ability to haul complete ass 😂. Fly's so nice and gets the power down like mad. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Harry 🤗. Yeah I seem to break more stuff with small awkward hits then I do completely sending it 😱🤣🤣. Such is life in our hobby. Stoked to have both of these big girls performing solid. Congrats on your Maxx V2!!!! Orange is a great choice my friend. Hope the weather improves and you can get her maiden run in soon. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so very much Brother 😜. So sorry I missed your comment 👀. Yes it's true that hub extenders can add extra strain to hubs and bearings, but I haven't noticed any significant issues thus far 👍. Especially running RPM rear hubs and Traxxas HD front hubs as both used oversized inner bearings. The difference in stability and handling is definitely worth it 😍. Don't hesitate to purchase the standard chassis brace. Both it and the Beefcake version work as designed. The chief role it plays is linear anchoring. Both do the all important job of keeping the bulkheads from pulling apart in a linear plane. Think of a steel cable on a bridge. It's function is to keep 2 concrete structures from pulling away from one another. That's exactly what both braces achieve between the 3 modular chassis pods. I had zero chassis failures with the standard brace. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Chad 😜. Both trucks have their own character and are super capable with proper tuning, power, and hop ups 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so very much Garry 🤗. So awesome to hear you're digging your Truggified Typhon 😍🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother, 🤗. XMaxx parts are always good to have on standby. 🤣🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks so much Brother 😜!!! Truly appreciate it. 🍻😎💪👊👊

Thanks Shawn 🤗. Really appreciate it Brother. 🍻😎💪👊👊