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On the night of July 14th, 1881, the infamous outlaw Billy The Kid was killed in Ft. Sumner New Mexico.
Sheriff Pat Garret was questioning Pete Maxwell as to Billy’s whereabouts when the kid walked into the darkened room. Realizing he wasn’t alone, Billy spoke his final words “Quien es, who is it?". Garrett - recognizing the Kid’s voice - drew his revolver and shot twice; the first bullet struck Billy in the chest just above the heart. Thus ending the short, yet bloody, career of Billy the Kid.
But did things really go down like that? Did Pat Garrett really kill Billy The Kid? In 1950, 69 years after Billy was allegedly killed, a man known as Brushy Bill Roberts met with the governor of New Mexico, claiming to be Billy The Kid and requesting the pardon he was promised decades before. The 90-year-old Roberts spoke fluent Spanish and, like the kid, was ambidextrous; able to shoot a gun with both hands. He had five signed affidavits from people who actually knew the Kid back in the day swearing that he was, indeed, Billy.
And he had every bullet wound Billy was said to have plus many more. #wildwest #oldwest #western
Was Brushy Bill really Billy The Kid? And if not, who the hell was he?
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@wawoodsman7198
@wawoodsman7198 3 года назад
The shooting of Billy wouldn't be the first time Pat Garrett had blatantly lied as a lawman.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
Agreed
@scothammond5736
@scothammond5736 3 года назад
I think Pat Garret wanted to be a pulp fiction novel hero.
@tjingram1207
@tjingram1207 3 года назад
Or the first person pat shot thinking it was the kid
@seanauten6431
@seanauten6431 2 года назад
He was shot and killed because he tried to screw someone over. Lol alot to lose of his name sake if the stories he told came out as BS
@Jameslfgsmith
@Jameslfgsmith Год назад
Pat was so badass that with his back turned dick in hand pissing he was a threat…. 🤣 😂😂
@brianpeck4035
@brianpeck4035 3 года назад
21 year olds today can't reasonably be compared with 14 year olds let alone 21 year olds back in the 1800s. Those kids back then were piled with responsibilities at a very early age.
@catdaddy3302
@catdaddy3302 3 года назад
One of my ancestors fought in the Confederate Army at 14. A lot of young MEN did.
@kanekochera6595
@kanekochera6595 2 года назад
Us poor people still live like that.
@a.r.cooper
@a.r.cooper 4 месяца назад
“You’re Billy the Kid, too, ya know. You all are. Dirty, Little, Billy Bastards…”
@TommyBoy-719-
@TommyBoy-719- 3 месяца назад
You took my farm Mr Chisholm!
@williamavitt8264
@williamavitt8264 2 месяца назад
​@TommyBoy-719- you took a lot of farms, Mr. Chisum. And as long as Billy the Kid is taking some back, I'm with him
@TommyBoy-719-
@TommyBoy-719- 2 месяца назад
@@williamavitt8264 😅
@sartainja
@sartainja 3 года назад
In that picture of Billy the Kid, he looked like he had a deformed lip to me. I am a fan of Billy and think he was a hero and deserves to be given a pardon for fighting corrupt local government back before the federal government would do anything against it. Billy needs to be a hero of New Mexico - I say that as New Mexico is one of my adopted states.
@KruglugBadax
@KruglugBadax 2 года назад
Do you mean a cleft?
@sidneydaugherty4895
@sidneydaugherty4895 2 года назад
He had 2 protruding front teeth that made his upper lip look weird.
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 2 года назад
Are you talking about Brushy Bill ? He was a Con man.
@jabronisauce6833
@jabronisauce6833 2 года назад
Slight movement could mess up photos abit maybe that's what happened.
@carolyn9andthecats653
@carolyn9andthecats653 2 года назад
@@sidneydaugherty4895 ....is all.
@michaelwashington1585
@michaelwashington1585 3 года назад
Billy or not they should of givin the old man the pardon....what could it hurt.
@danahutt1282
@danahutt1282 3 года назад
Didn't Billy the Kid write a letter to the governor? I'm sure Brushy wrote some letters. Match the hand writing of both men..
@sagittariusa2283
@sagittariusa2283 3 года назад
Billy the kid had a limited education, so he may have had someone else write them. There are a few letters supposedly written by Billy the kid, and not all of them match.
@ericmuhammed2859
@ericmuhammed2859 2 года назад
No matter what no one else says I believe it's possible thAt Brushy Bill very well still could hAve been Billy The Kid, no matter what the guy on here ( talking ) says.
@TheTexorcist68
@TheTexorcist68 Год назад
Brushy Bill Roberts was an opportunistic grifter who saw a chance to be famous and make a buck. Being an embalmer and restoritive artist for 20+ years for the deceased - I can assure you Brushy Bill Roberts was not Billy the Kid. I'd love for it to be true - that Billy lived to be an old man but the evidence just isn't there.
@the_patriot7
@the_patriot7 Год назад
​@THE TEX you are so stupid !!!
@wilmoney4619
@wilmoney4619 Год назад
Not allowed to look at billys hand writing. Not allowed to look at roberts’ either. Stop asking questions that make sense
@TheTexorcist68
@TheTexorcist68 Год назад
I was an adult when Young Guns II came out and was equally obsessed. 😂
@strikerorwell9232
@strikerorwell9232 10 месяцев назад
I was not and the other day I went to the cinema and apologized and revealed where the hidden entry we kids used, and that was used by kids since the 50s. Was I wrong?
@reedsartofadventure
@reedsartofadventure 3 года назад
My great uncle was a very old man in the 60s he claimed that Billy was never killed by garett and was tought how to shoot by an older guy he new as Mr. Robert's. I kinda want to believe my uncle.
@ispartacus1337
@ispartacus1337 2 года назад
well Robert's is one of the most common names in the country so...
@reedsartofadventure
@reedsartofadventure 2 года назад
@@ispartacus1337 true that
@satanicpanic1313
@satanicpanic1313 5 лет назад
He wouldn't have been on the run bud! They thought he was dead so obviously noone would be looking for him! With no photos and only close friends recognizing him he would be fine to roam freely!
@wayneveck6743
@wayneveck6743 3 года назад
Absolutely no Facebook then
@Rollin_L
@Rollin_L 4 месяца назад
They thought he was dead because he was. Only about 40 documented witnesses to the body and the burial that we have names for. And some of them said the whole village, between 150-200 people, were there to see it as well. Add to that, there is a proven photo of the Kid, even though the Kid's friends said it was not a good take. It was published in a nationally distributed magazine from Boston, The Illustrated Police News, twice before the Kid was dead. Before that, the Kid himself is given a copy of an earlier caricature and story on him in the same publication, Jan. 8, 1881 issue, while he is in the Santa Fe Jailhouse. He discusses it in a published newspaper interview, January 20, 1881 Las Vegas Gazette. So he was potentially VERY recognizable.
@justyngreniger993
@justyngreniger993 4 года назад
hey peppin i see you got charley crawford down there with ya-heyyyy peppin charley crawfords not with you anymore XD
@craysmith82
@craysmith82 3 года назад
Sigh, ♻️
@user-gl2wh8eq1c
@user-gl2wh8eq1c 3 года назад
"Yoo Hoo! I'll make ya famous!"
@buckeyebaptist1976
@buckeyebaptist1976 2 года назад
One thing to consider, census records are notoriously inaccurate. The census takers were usually in a hurry and wrote names and details how the answers sounded to them. Another thing to keep in mind is almost the entire 1890 census perished in a fire.
@MrPAULONEAL
@MrPAULONEAL Год назад
There was also a family bible with Brushy's actual birthdate.
@Rollin_L
@Rollin_L 4 месяца назад
@libertylighthouse8080 Yet the census records are 100% consistent with regard to Roberts, decade after decade. He lived his whole life in Texas.
@buckeyebaptist1976
@buckeyebaptist1976 4 месяца назад
@@Rollin_L I'd say they were. I was just pointing out that you can't rely on census records alone.
@Rollin_L
@Rollin_L 4 месяца назад
@@buckeyebaptist1976 I agree. Sometimes they do have errors, and it's hard to know if the source of an error is the census taker or the individual giving the info. But they are a very important part of the puzzle when researching stuff like this. When they do given consistent info decade to decade, that carries some weight.
@robertreisner6119
@robertreisner6119 3 года назад
BB I have several old family bibles from my ancestors, passed to me by my dad's mother. She was the family historian and I found recorded dates and names with a link to each one to explain the connection. Found out that this recorded her family tree back to the 1550 decade. She was Luilla V. Parker born 1896 and passed in 1984. Family Bibles are important to family history. Thank you.
@mikecude4167
@mikecude4167 3 года назад
Billy would have recognized Pat Garrett’s voice...
@homemealsfeels6652
@homemealsfeels6652 5 лет назад
Just found this and I absolutely love it! Going to binge watch all the episodes now. ☺👍
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 5 лет назад
oh you
@nobodyspecial6513
@nobodyspecial6513 3 года назад
Personally, I believe Billy didn't die that night. Not sure if Bill Roberts was the kid though. Plus I had to comment to get your comments up to 667. One number lower just bugs the shit out of me lol
@williamespinosa9094
@williamespinosa9094 3 месяца назад
Holy shit, this is the best historical opinion vs. historical evidence video of all time! Thank you, sir
@bobbymcreynolds9313
@bobbymcreynolds9313 3 года назад
I am not biased on this subject however there's just too many things that don't add up about the original Mainline story no one really knows he was Billy or not but but from all the evidence that I can tell Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid
@darrendavis4008
@darrendavis4008 2 месяца назад
I am so glad to have uncovered this Podcast. I was blessed to have been chosen to have worked on the set of Young Guns II. I researched 18th Century Buildings used as hotsets that got shot up, the newspaper sketch of William Peterson that Emilio reads and shoots up as well as sketched the horse for a taxidermist to make when Emilio’s horse gets shot in the beginning. I spent a glorious four months on the set. Thank you for this podcast. How can I attach a picture from the set to you?
@tonyh9970
@tonyh9970 3 года назад
I recently watched an interview with the grandson of the guy Billy was supposedly staying with that night who lived in the house next to Maxwell's. Garrett was there with 2 deputies who were outside while Garrett was inside talking to Maxwell. Billy went to see who was there and Garrett shot him with a double barrel shotgun through the screen door. The deputies didn't recognize him but Garrett saw him at the door and immediately new who he was. Supposedly Garrett was hiding under a cot in the hallway just inside waiting. Maxwell didn't want to be involved so he didn't attempt to warn Billy. That sounds more plausible then any other story I've heard. Of course, there's so many stories that it's impossible to really know. Whatever the truth, Billy's short life is legendary even if embellished. This podcast is one of the most entertaining ones I've heard and I'm glad I found it. Also, your sponsor has me sold. Great job picking them up.
@KurtOnoIR
@KurtOnoIR 3 года назад
The deputy Jon Poe would have recognized Billy. I always thought it was strange that he would just walk right past Poe. He's also the one who at first said garret shot the wrong man and then changed his statement. Also the other deputy said it wasn't Billy when he was close to his death bed, he said it was a "Mexican". There's a good amount of circumstantial evidence that it wasnt Billy killed that night. We may find out when our DNA tech gets good enough to get a sample from the blood on the table they layed him on. Then they could exume and find out.
@tonyh9970
@tonyh9970 3 года назад
@@KurtOnoIR there's a part of me that wants to know and another that loves the mystery around him. I certainly don't think taking Garrett's word for anything is acceptable. I've always wondered, if he wasn't killed that night, would be have just stayed quiet? There's so many possibilities. At his age, he could've easily changed appearance and kept doing his thing. If he stayed out of the New Mexico/Arizona area, most people wouldn't recognize him. Even if someone did, by the time word spread around, it would've probably just been chalked up to rumors. I think it was more important to bury his name than the actual body. Also, most of the shootings he was involved in would've been justified if not for his reputation so he could've just lived a decent normal life after everything settled down. Like you said, maybe we'll learn the truth some day.
@KurtOnoIR
@KurtOnoIR 3 года назад
@@tonyh9970 lol yeah, one part of me wants to know for sure but I think I'd be a little disappointed if dna one day proved that it is him buried there. Some things are maybe best left a mystery.
@tonyh9970
@tonyh9970 3 года назад
@@KurtOnoIR agreed. I like to think that the fact that we're still talking about him almost 150 years later is proof enough. It's almost like he's still riding today. I love that idea. Thanks for a fun chat. Take care of yourself, cowboy.
@johnnyamaro6643
@johnnyamaro6643 2 года назад
That would've been Chano Silva the grandson. Years ago I visited the grave of the kid. And to meet was odd that it's behind the museum where we just walked around the side of the building to the back. No charge to see or a gate to keep out vandals. A historic site? It's a guess he's buried there. Bars all around to cage in the monuments. A flood washed away the first site. So just put up another one where they Guessed it should go ??
@danielcrewe732
@danielcrewe732 3 года назад
Mate! I was also obsessed with young guns as a kid. I even had two metal toy revolvers that I learned to spin. Looks like I’m watching it with my son today it’s a must
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
I practiced my fast draw in front of the tv
@heavymeddle28
@heavymeddle28 3 года назад
Hah, 😅 I'm 50 and was also spellbound by these old gunslingers. The last really good movie imo was the assassination of Jesse James 2007. The 80s was a real Billy the kid fest
@bryanfranks1378
@bryanfranks1378 2 года назад
Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid that was proven by a 93 percent accuracy from facial recognition also both men were 5'8" tall both fluent in Spanish both have the exact same scars Brushy Bill Roberts knew way too many facts about the Kids life
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
What scars did Brushy have?
@MrPAULONEAL
@MrPAULONEAL Год назад
Those are all lies that were repeated after the death of Brushy Bill.
@lordflashheart3706
@lordflashheart3706 2 года назад
As much as I love the Young Guns movies, Billy always struck me as someone I would never want to be around. They really played up the craziness, his partiality of New Mexico, and of course his abilities with the iron, which I honestly don't think fits, (even though it's very entertaining). It's all a part of the mythos around him, which I don't believe really grew wings until after the battle of Lincoln, and the dissolution of the Regulators. I speculate that Billy was not some half-crazed maniac so much as an impressionable kid who enjoyed the life he managed to carve out there (which of us doesn't like hanging with the bros?). My guess is that he made good his escape when he could once he saw all his pals were gone and there was absolutely no future in staying in New Mexico. Garrett, a bonified glory hound, probably shot some other poor kid and planted him as quickly as he could just to collect the reward and the recognition. My two cents.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
I think one of the most interesting things about the Kid is how short his career was and just how much "adventure packed" it was. Just the facts we know - mysterious past, deputized, fought in a county war, outlaw, run ins with Apache, etc - all by the age of 21. Very colorful life. Doubtful he was a crazed maniac, just a wild child.
@juzagirlntheroom2692
@juzagirlntheroom2692 2 года назад
He was quite intelligent. Spoke Spanish, English, and one Native tongue I can't recall now.
@bryanfranks1378
@bryanfranks1378 2 года назад
Garret shot a Mexican kid who washed dishes from the food place next door .
@bryanfranks1378
@bryanfranks1378 2 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza Billy the Kid got blamed for more than he did because they wanted to make him have to be more accountable !
@shallowada
@shallowada 4 месяца назад
Agreed 100% He left Arizona when he was wanted for murder. He stuck around NM because his friends were loyal and he was hoping to testify and get his pardon. Once that fizzled and he escaped from jail, I'm sure he was long gone. I read some articles and writings in the Ft. Sumner museum recently. Several accounts said that Garrett was in no rush to track Billy down after he escaped prison in Lincoln. And that he treated every sighting, including the one at Ft. Sumner, as a wild goose chase. No one had seen Billy since the jail break, and the word out at the time is that he was long gone, probably to old Mexico. There was also a U.S. Marshall's statement that I'm still digging for that was in one of the old articles, that stated the man shot at Maxwell's place had darker skin and a full beard. Corroborating Pies original and dying years statement. Billy was long gone and everyone knew it. I also tend to believe that he was "Wayne Brazel". Not much info on ole Wayne. And just imagine if the "dead" outlaw that Garrett supposedly killed, shows up in town the day after Garrett is killed and confesses. He was let loose almost immediately in a case of self-defense, even though Garrett's autopsy had one bullet in the back of his head, and another in the chest. A clear execution. Other theories are out there, but that is mine. It is well documented by locals in Las Cruces that Billy was living there for a while well after he was "killed", and very revered.
@brianreed1859
@brianreed1859 4 года назад
Scenerio 2 for sure. Great episode, absolutely loved it. You are also hilarious. Keep up the great work, will be looking for more to watch. Thank you!!!
@Michigan_Tactical
@Michigan_Tactical 2 года назад
Generally speaking, it's easier to prove positives than negatives. The picture overlays are convincing. I find it very possible he was billy the kid. Especially since it was so easy to change identities. Add to that if Pat Garrett did kill the wrong man he could've been prosecuted and hung. That's not much incentive to admit to a mistake.
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 2 года назад
Especially after he had killed two innocent men previously .
@jameswagner2634
@jameswagner2634 2 года назад
You have to take into consideration that brushy bill is 20 years too young to have been Billy the kid.🤠🇺🇸👍
@Michigan_Tactical
@Michigan_Tactical 2 года назад
@@jameswagner2634 normally I would agree, but unlike modern times there were no birth certificates beck then. One could change age just as easily as changing names. Unless we could actually examine skeletal remains there's no way to verify age. And even with skeletal age, it only gets you in the ballpark which would be within about 20 years.. the truth is, we will never know.
@dennisdonovan974
@dennisdonovan974 2 года назад
@@Michigan_Tactical agreed
@dennisdonovan974
@dennisdonovan974 2 года назад
@@jameswagner2634 actually Oliver p roberts was 20 years to young he was not the same guy as Oliver l roberts one was from Arkansas born in Sulphur springs Arkansas in 1879 the other was born in Buffalo gap Texas in December 1859 that was brushy bill and there are historical documents proven that he worked for the horse thief association in 1888 if brushy bill was born in 1879 that would make him only 9 years old not possible.. Oliver p roberts and Oliver l roberts were not the same
@shawnwbell4404
@shawnwbell4404 4 года назад
Daniel A. Edwards book, The Autobiography of Billy The Kid.
@TheReapersFear4
@TheReapersFear4 4 года назад
EXACTLY
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 3 года назад
Daniel A. Edwards is a liar trying cash in the the growing industry of Brushy Bill Roberts. His biggest argument is about reading Morrison's letters. Morrison and Daniels were just trying to make a cheap buck selling a hokey book.
@KruglugBadax
@KruglugBadax 2 года назад
You can’t really go by that Billy the Kid photo. I mean it looks blurry compared to the other Wild West photos of that time. Plus, he looks somewhat intoxicated. I wouldn’t rule it out being Brushy, especially as they both have what looks to be mismatched eyebrows which is a rarity. Also, I tried to cover the hair underneath Billy’s ears with my fingers and I must admit that it kinda does look like that photo of a young Brushy, especially the eyes. The only thing I will say is their jaws are kinda different. I feel that could be explained because perhaps Billy/Brushy wasn’t eating much back then. Also, when I open my mouth even a little it does make my jaw look longer and maybe he was using his jaw muscles in a weird way, like shifting his jaw to one side which anyone can do. That could maybe be explained as I said because of his drunkenness, but we don’t know if he was…There is only one photo of Billy, but, again, I wouldn’t rule it out being Brushy. There is also another photo that’s convincing and that is Denis Gaubert’s photo of a guy smoking a cigarette who happens to really match the description of Billy who I also don’t think is Brushy. Who knows…
@KurtOnoIR
@KurtOnoIR 3 года назад
One fact I can't get past. When pat Garrett was in maxwells place looking for Billy he left two people outside the door. So that would mean those two let Billy walk right past and into the room? Both of them at one point also said that it wasn't billy who was killed. One jon poe at the time said it wasn't him, soon retracted the other admitted on his death bed that it wasn't Billy. I dont know if brushy bill was billy but I do feel its very likely that Billy wasn't killed that night.
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 2 года назад
Several years later Kip Mckinney allegedly told three different versions of Billy the Kid Fort Sumner shooting, to a friend and family members.
@bryanfranks1378
@bryanfranks1378 2 года назад
Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid and he lived too be a very long life
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 2 года назад
Kurtonoirtech9 When Pat Garrett shot Billy the Kid it was in a dark room, because of that Poe said it couldn't been Billy, but when the room lit up. Poe did say that it is Billy's corpse on the floor.
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 2 года назад
@@bryanfranks1378 Ok where is the proof that your 3rd cousin Brushy is Billy?
@timcundiff3761
@timcundiff3761 8 месяцев назад
Wish I was rich I'd sponsor this channel . This is literally my favorite channel
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 месяцев назад
I wish I was rich too!
@Ryther1990s
@Ryther1990s 3 года назад
I've never stole a horse from a man i didn't like
@kennyberg1395
@kennyberg1395 Месяц назад
@@Ryther1990s did I like Pat Garrett? He'll no. I loved the son of a bitch.
@bwca4454
@bwca4454 2 года назад
I LOVED the podcast‼️It is obvious to the vast amount of effort and work that was dedicated to developing an impressive knowledge base for Billy the Kid. The well organized and engaging delivery style captivates listener attention to allow one to easily follow the podcast's content despite initial forenamed possible confusion with the podcast's use of multiple aliases for Billy the Kd. A highlight and genuine point of listener appreciation is the emphasis on content validity and the provision of said within a contextual framework from both pro and con perspectives. Finally your tantalizing personality and sense of humor visibly emerge to entice one to remain fully attentive as if listening to a story proffered by a close friend. I am truly delighted to have stumbled upon your channel to wit you have a new subscriber anxious to listen to your prior podcasts and eager for the new. Thank you so very much. 👍🏼👍🏼
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
Thank you, Patrick
@michelob.
@michelob. 3 года назад
Great podcast bud! I really enjoyed it! You’re hilarious and great at it! I’m 42 years old and I’m obsessed with legend of Billy The Kid. My head is spinning lately thinking about and hoping he lived on past what we’ve all been lead to believe by Pat Garrett! It’s so frustrating thinking that there’s a true story that we will probably never know! I just hope more movies books and documentaries continue to get made because the legend lives on with all of us! Thanks!
@thewasatch208
@thewasatch208 3 года назад
This is an amazing story. It's crazy not many people know about Brushy Bill.
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 3 года назад
I remember him being brought up on Ripley's Believe it, or not.
@jameswagner2634
@jameswagner2634 2 года назад
I have a picture of Brushy Bill at the do Billy the Kid museum , The owner of the museum said he claim to be who is the kid who was 20 years to young. To be the Kid. 🤠🇺🇸👍 just saying.
@jameswagner2634
@jameswagner2634 2 года назад
I apologize I was text talking And as usual you didn’t come out right
@thejamesbondshow9754
@thejamesbondshow9754 Год назад
I hope to change that!!
@thejamesbondshow9754
@thejamesbondshow9754 Год назад
@@jameswagner2634 that old man at the museum is a nice guy but totally ignorant on the real 1859 birthdate of Brushy Bill. Look up Brett Hall's channel, he debunks this lie and proves Brushy was born in 1859.
@todgrim8543
@todgrim8543 2 года назад
Two warrants for Billy the Kid were issued after Garret supposedly had shot him
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
Case closed then. Brushy was definitely the kid!
@eduardom.8766
@eduardom.8766 2 года назад
I’m no language expert. But I do speak Spanish and have spoken Spanish my entire life. During years that I’ve not spoken Spanish very much (due to where I was living/an absence of other Spanish speakers)-Yeah, I got a bit rusty. I imagine anyone - fluent or not - would experience some rust if they stopped speaking a language for years and years.
@hunterbuilt8515
@hunterbuilt8515 2 года назад
Man found your podcasts a couple weeks ago, haven’t turned them off, keep em up amigo👍
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
Gracias!
@asullivan4047
@asullivan4047 Год назад
Interesting and informative vast majority of Bill's stories were exaggerated or untrue. Unfortunately Bill's mind told him that he was Billy the kid. Special thanks Bill for making this documentary possible!!!
@jerryhutchinson3639
@jerryhutchinson3639 3 года назад
He shot him in the face with a shotgun, it was not Billy. Pat was his friend.
@bjsmith621
@bjsmith621 3 года назад
Great stuff, man. I grew up with Young Guns and that great Time Life book, too. The local library finally gave me their old copy after the few dozen times I checked it out. Reading the "BTK: An Autobiography" book now. Led me to a RU-vid search and your podcast. Haven't read all of it yet, but Brushy initially claimed BTK was his half-brother, instead of cousin. Small point, but since you asked I wanted to throw that out there. Really enjoy the podcast and look forward to checking out more of your stuff.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
I'm reading the same book!
@montanastranger
@montanastranger 2 года назад
Bigfoot is real! All those missing people found out the HARD way. A horned up Bigfoot carried um off to the honeymoon suite.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
Haha
@bumfit5491
@bumfit5491 2 года назад
French Canadian loggers interbred with Bigfoot girls so often now you see Bigfoot around town ….
@santareviews
@santareviews 3 года назад
Billy didn’t get a Christmas present in 1881, and he wasn’t on the naughty list. That can only mean one thing
@usmcmustang2972
@usmcmustang2972 3 года назад
😅😆😀
@rek550
@rek550 3 года назад
Sounds interesting, but can't listen to this. The guy talks too fast.
@allennelson3881
@allennelson3881 4 года назад
I have read that Billy had an old coat for a pillow, and that he frequently slept on the bare earth for the night's bed. I've also read that even though he was familiar with the territory, he often got lost, not knowing where he was going, and only God knew where he had been. You got any info or opinions on this?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Actually, yes. Everything you stated has been verified. What a lot of people don't know is that he also was a lover of the "six gun". And was likened at times to both a devil on the run and a candle in the wind, as well as a goat in a stable.
@gameboysleepyd4277
@gameboysleepyd4277 4 года назад
Mr. Catch me if you can
@riffmaster1078
@riffmaster1078 10 месяцев назад
The reality of calling yourself "huge penis having Josh" and trying to get people to take you seriously. Is this similar and or equivalent to those who call big guys "Tiny?"
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 10 месяцев назад
Sure!
@hellbilly6532
@hellbilly6532 3 года назад
Just speculating; if I were one of the most famous outlaws of ALL time & I wanted to get away with an undercover life, I might well spin up a web of bull$hit people would dismiss and disregard me entirely. Just saying. Good video
@thejamesbondshow9754
@thejamesbondshow9754 Год назад
You're so ignorant
@DrewSohl
@DrewSohl 3 года назад
It is possible that Pat Garrett, shooting in the dark,shot the wrong man.I like to keep options open.
@kristaberck6821
@kristaberck6821 3 года назад
Tom was there with Billy. His horse and tack were never claimed. Billy's was gone the next morning.
@localbod
@localbod 4 года назад
Thanks for posting this. Most interesting. I could counter your argument regarding 'Billy the Kid' working for various well known agencies: There were very few photographs of him. He was believed to have been shot dead by sheriff Garret and so anyone suspecting him of being the outlaw could easily have been brushed off. It is just as likely that having escaped 'justice' he decided to hide in plain sight and earn a living, as it is, that he would continue his 'outlaw' ways. I think that even if it was possible to prove that William Roberts was 'Billy the Kid' using DNA, many historians would simply discredit the evidence etc...., because the legend of this most famous of cowboys is a neat and romantic story that people would rather believe. It will continue to fascinate the public and thus continue to sell books and inspire movies, and afford some to make money from this version of the past. This is only my opinion, and as someone once said; 'Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink'. ;)
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Yeah, it's definitely possible he survived and hide in plain sight. I personally just don't believe it based on the evidence. Would be really cool if he did! I'm currently working on an episode about Butch Cassidy possibly living to be an old man. Should be interesting!
@localbod
@localbod 4 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza I agree that in all probability William Roberts was not 'Billy the Kid' but it is intriguing that Garrett had shot dead two others believing them to be the outlaw, before allegedly finally getting his man, as well as the report of the other lawman saying that it wasn't him. I do like the idea that BTK went on to live a long and fuitful existence but perhaps that is simply wishful thinking on my part and another romantic notion of a very unromantic period of history. I shall certainly watch out for your presentation on Butch Cassidy. That does sound very interesting. I think he was supposed to have gone to Bolivia, if I am correct? I live in Colombia and that is certainly down this neck of the woods. 😊
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
@@localbod Yep, first they set up a ranch in Argentina and then were "killed" in Bolivia. Awesome hearing that I've got a listener in Columbia!
@localbod
@localbod 4 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza Yep, I'm a Brit living in Colombia. I'm in a small village at the moment but moving to Bogotá soon. Keep up the good work! 😊
@youtubeblows3643
@youtubeblows3643 4 года назад
local bod how’s the coke?
@danlowery8749
@danlowery8749 2 месяца назад
BTK is probably the most eternal person in history next to Jesus. However, he was shot and killed July 14, 1881 at the age of 19.
@austin4509
@austin4509 3 года назад
Well if Brushy Bill Roberts was old, then he wouldn’t exactly have the best memory and wasn’t exactly good at Spanish anymore
@buzzledoux7572
@buzzledoux7572 3 года назад
You don’t forget a language genius. Google it!
@bryanpowers7889
@bryanpowers7889 3 года назад
Ran across this going down a billy the kid rabbit hole. Great show, going to check out the other shows.
@shanejohnson800
@shanejohnson800 3 года назад
Are used to be obsessed with it also and also play Young Guns with my friends the scene where he jumps out of the trunk is my favorite
@chiefsteps-in-poo8447
@chiefsteps-in-poo8447 3 года назад
Did you guys know that Tom Cruise was an extra in Young Guns? He was shot in the last fight you're talking about.
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 3 года назад
Man if I was 90, already nervous about being caught up with corrupt officials hell bent on punishing anyone no matter if in infancy or a crippled old man as long as they get their governmental kickback, my memory wouldn't be all that great either. Law, real Law 101 is never incriminate yourselves and always answer a question with a question. Where were you the night of July 14 1881? Answer back, where were you? or I can't answer without effective assistance of counsel present. Brushy Bill already nervous not wanting to be wrongfully convicted at 90 years old for killings during a war where everyone involved was killing (hypocrites) or aiding and abetting killers on one side probably became overwhelmed with all the publicity and questions. Feeble hearted already he had a slight stoke, anxiety or panic attack and had to sit down, a month or so later he dies of a heart attack?? Anyone who knows how those in government work knows how corrupt these people are. Innocent or not, any wrong word or even the right words will be held against a man in these fraudulent courts of Law mixed with man written statutes legislation writes (men). Be innocent of a "crime", haven't broken any true Law and be in front of some peckerwood government officials (chancery courts) and let them tell a man he may be serving a lengthy sentence that will up root his life as he knew it, altering the rest of his life (railroading) and even the strongest man's knees will buckle. It's a shock to the nervous system that will drop a man almost to his knees if he can't regain composure and keep himself on his feet. That 90 year old man that was involved in the Lincoln County WAR sixty nine years earlier was THE Billy the Kid.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
I agree that it'd probably be nerve wracking to go through all of that at the age of 90. The problem is, according to all official documents, Brushy wasn't 90 in 1950. He was 72.
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 3 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza All I can state at this point is f it. I wasn't their, and being from St Louis MO. I need visual proof hence the show me state. I'm just going by the stories I hear and my own logic and common sense based off what I hear and read. You broke alot more down in this video. Things I've never heard before on which Roberts is who Ollie L, Ollie P. Holy crap that's alot. Was Joe Hines truly Jesse Evans? Who knows. I just love the history and story of the Kid and the Lincoln County war. Thanks for all the info you share.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
I'm really curious if Hines was really Evans, too. I'm hopefully revisiting Brushy soon and that's one of the things I'm going to look into.
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 3 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza Great stuff. I'll be looking for that vid of info once you collect that data. It's to bad we can't get this history from the horses mouth or those donkeys close to the horse. Alot of people with different info adding to or taking away from out here. Alot of BS to sift through to just to get closer I say to the real deal. Like the saying goes, "money talks bs walks." Even in them days. There are some young people in this world who push the boundaries to see how far it'll go but once realizing that boundary can't be moved any further will eventually cut all ties with cancerous folks and become a ghost out of fear of being locked up, then again there are those youngsters that just can't seem to get enough. Can't wait for the story on Joe Hines possibly being Jesse Evans. Take care.
@wayascotokee311
@wayascotokee311 3 года назад
BTK did not die in 1881...he was actually the dude who was captured and tortured in the movie Cowboys and Aliens....That was his actual small wrist ray gun used in the movie. ***Disclaimer*** ...This TRUE STORY is based on actual events. (Epilogue).....BTK died fighting Martians and is buried on Mars and the movie Star Wars is based on his life after earth.
@jordanhicks5131
@jordanhicks5131 3 года назад
Lmao when you said BTK I thought you meant the serial killer and I was VERY confused
@wayascotokee311
@wayascotokee311 3 года назад
@@jordanhicks5131 LOL.....They may be one and the same lol
@alexandragorgeous
@alexandragorgeous 11 месяцев назад
Just a quick comment - I have a lot to say but I’ll just comment on your question about giving two children the same name and it was very common back then. For one instance there was a man in the Billy the kid stories that everyone gets confused with and it’s a man that married a woman with the same Christian name as his sister - off first and second names I can’t recall them but I can find it I only watched another doco that discussed this - anyway that woman this man married then had the ex lacy same first and second names as his sister. On a personal note, my grandmother had a son that was killed by a motorbike when he escaped the front yard his name was Rene and the next son she had they named Rene. Me and my first cousin from two sisters from the same grandmother have the same name (my mum said it was because she was in Holland at the time and after the recovery from giving birth, and both sisters (the other being in Australia at the time, both giving birth within days of eachother) and after naming us, did they speak in the phone and coincidentally named us both the same name Alexandra. My cousin got the nickname Moppy later we called her Sandra and I was always called Sandy. We both live in the same city now. It gets more confusing as an aunt was nicknamed “granny” and no one had their real name. My step brother Damien we called George and that’s my real fathers name although we call him Kiki, My step sister was named Kelly but we all called her Mickey. And when her father (my step father) married his brothers ex wife and they had children - the siblings were half cousin, brother/sisters I can’t work it out lol but that’s only 30 years ago. Interesting to note, it was far from illegal to marry an uncle - your fathers brother - in Australia our Billy the Kid is the Bush Ranger (outlaw) Ned Kelly who was shot 28 times but survived in 1881 to be deemed fit enough to be hung. Now he was a good looking bad boy lol my point being that his father and mother were first cousins. It was so common back in the last century even. It was a good way to keep land and expand family assets. I want to know why they keep telling us that 50 years ago we all died at the age of 30 whenever I watch documentaries or follow the life of someone from the past, they die at 80-90yo and women gave birth to so many children all in some bark hut no sterilised equipment, no doctor no nurses, no antibiotics no epidural and all the kids born to first cousins or shock horror an uncle and niece and they all lived! Just something you might find interesting and worth a footnote ? Btw I’m sure not a Neanderthal and I love the way you say it how you want to don’t change it’s all good and very interesting
@billrichards2177
@billrichards2177 2 года назад
Had to comeback for another listen in anticipation of the new episode coming up. Also, I always got to be Billy at recess!
@neil2me9
@neil2me9 4 года назад
I could bet money if you shoot a 21 year old in the face and a few other places and then threatened to kill him if he ever comes back to your town , you would never see him again.. And the people on that farm that prepared his body we're his friends so they would have definitely said that he was dead if he was planning on leaving anyways! As far as the deputy coming back and claiming that they really did kill Billy that night, of course he would say that because he was someone people wanted to talk to and see after that occurred. I would imagine he knew he made a mistake when others heard him tell Garrett that he shot the wrong person. I have no doubt that Brushy Bill Roberts was who he claimed to be! The man had nothing to gain by asking for a pardon and everything to lose by asking for it, hence the reason he waited until his time was up to do so.. People will believe what they want to believe and for those lucky enough to know the truth, knows that a pardon doesn't matter in the end because The one that they called The Kid was actually a good man! RIP William
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Agree to disagree?
@jackhackman7777
@jackhackman7777 3 года назад
When everybody is looking for you then you hide and hide right in plain sight but you must be many things and not stick to one place too long cause sooner or later they will soon figure out who you are So instead of running and hiding you just change who you are over and over until nobody knows you But there's always those select few that knew who you are from the past
@dylangarrett6789
@dylangarrett6789 4 года назад
If you haven’t watched, there’s a 3 hour video interview with a woman that says she’s related to Jesse James. And she talks about how Billy the Kid and Jesse James were friends. It’s a good watch.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
I haven't watched it. Thanks for the heads up, I'll check it out.
@robertayoder2063
@robertayoder2063 4 года назад
That's dumb
@brushybret
@brushybret 4 года назад
The video was posted by me on my channel. I obtained the video from my friend, the late William Tunstill who conducted the video with Mrs. Ola Everhard.
@silver_salvage_savage
@silver_salvage_savage 3 года назад
It is very strange that no death photos of billy were taken. I assume that cameras weren't as common as today but, damn! Maybe one will turn up somewhere, maybe the photographers were traveling salesmen kinda folks......?
@RocksChosenWarrior3
@RocksChosenWarrior3 Год назад
"There's other lawyers around, piece a chicken shit, get back in your vehicle before I make it 22 just for the goddamn hell of it"
@tonyabresee7944
@tonyabresee7944 3 года назад
I watched something a few years back .... it was about this dude who bought a old picture at a flea market.. turned out to be a picture of Billy and a few other regulators..... possibly a wedding picture. It was like the only other picture of the kid that is known besides the real famous one everyone knows of.
@travisfinch8555
@travisfinch8555 3 года назад
I have seen that two
@kasykasy7253
@kasykasy7253 2 года назад
Bigfoot is Billy the Kid. Billy the Kid is Bigfoot. There! I said it!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
The plot thickens
@sofakingphat8087
@sofakingphat8087 3 года назад
Brushy Bill is the forest Gump of the wild west. Really enjoyed this.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
Thanks!
@leeguidry9850
@leeguidry9850 2 года назад
I definitely subscribed. I like this type of content
@Bobbybearns1974
@Bobbybearns1974 4 года назад
Very well-balanced! Not necessarily a lot of that around when it comes to Billy the kid and and brushy bill Robert’s!! Thanks very enjoyable mate😃
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Thank you, sir. Had a lot of fun doing the Brushy Bill episode. I'm hoping to do a follow up on it sometime soon. Thanks again for your kind words!
@rodneyarmstrong3813
@rodneyarmstrong3813 Год назад
One way to look at it is A 21 year old Billy the kid could have been tired of running. So Pat covered up the kids death, Pat was crooked and yes the Kid could have moved on and grown old. Only a few people even knew what The Kid looked like.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Год назад
That is one way to look at it. I personally do find that very unlikely, though.
@jadeekelgor2588
@jadeekelgor2588 Месяц назад
Before the country got populated. Before the country got telephones. Before employers weren't so picky about whom they hired. It really didn't matter what name you used. If you're running from, well anybody or anything....then having a skill or two and a pleasent disposition helps. Names or even nicknames were more prominent in times past...especially when lots of folks had the same first name. I remember a movie based in WWII where there were too many Johns. (No pun intended)... There was Big John, Dirty John, etc... You are right about nicknames, though. UNLESS Oh no, not another Peter!! What do we call you? My friends call me Buckshot. Why? (if curious) My sister shot me with a shotgun in 7th grade. (lie?) Buckshot it is! And THAT is how you get to pick your own nickname.
@draigwolf3627
@draigwolf3627 3 года назад
the plot thickens like good stew mmmmm mmmmm. i remember the unsolved mysteries episode. and you are correct why didnt they take pictures of the famous dead outlaw hmmm
@riftraft2015
@riftraft2015 2 месяца назад
The middle initial change was a VERY common trick used by draft Dodgers in WW1. I've seen that in census records during ww1 many times. A guy is in census records for 18 years in one area, and turns up 25 miles away in 1918 doing a new job with a new middle name. Oliver p. , born 1878, would have been 40 years old in 1918 eligible for the 3rd ww1 draft. You are on the right track. A middle initial/name change was ALSO commonly used by someone trying to run or hide from their past, usually debt. And back then, they would generally get away with it too. I've seen it in my own family tree with a distant uncle. That was exactly what he did in 1918. He changed his middle name & birthday, moved 30 miles away to avoid the draft. And his great grandson, and I, have the same pictures of him. 😂. He was a draft Dodger. Brushy bill reminds me of a modern day jailbird. Pathological liar who makes up shit faster than you can debunk it. And then gets offended when you call bullshit. Just like bigfoot believers. 😂
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 месяца назад
Oh don’t get me started on Bigfoot!
@whatsthedealwithdanny3913
@whatsthedealwithdanny3913 4 года назад
Great video. Like you I am a big fan of Young Guns, and that led me to really get into the story of Billy the Kid. I have visited Lincoln New Mexico, Fort Sumner New Mexico, and even Hico and Hamilton Texas. There is no doubt that people in Texas are convinced that briushy was Billy. I am also biased. I wanted to believe he lived to an old age. I didn't get into all the census stuff with all the names you did. I came to my own conclusion that he couldn't have been. My biggest reason was something you stated very well. I didn't believe a 20 something year old kid that had a tendency to get himself into all the stuff he was involved in, wouldn't just disappear into the night , only to pop up 70 years later. Something would have happened . And I knew about the story of Brushy being attached to the guy claiming to be Jesse James. So I am in the camp of he was killed by Pat Garret in 1881. but the way you lay out the details of what Brushy says about the events of his life is unbelievable . too grandiose to be true. The Forest Gump of the wild west. But I don't blame others for believing it. I wanted to myself. But thanks for the video. you lay it out really well.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Thanks for listening! I like how you put it - the Forest Gump of the wild west.
@ianmulhall768
@ianmulhall768 2 года назад
Brushy was a con and it would of been a baby when Billy was in his prime, then the photos look absolutely nothing a like
@danield9105
@danield9105 4 года назад
No pictures taken of Billy the kid after death raises questions whether his death was authentic.
@heidithaw1072
@heidithaw1072 4 месяца назад
The stories of his later life seem implausible. It also ignores Billys mother and brother who once lived in Wichita KS and are documented on the census. There was also documentation of where he lived in New Mexico as a child. He was taken in by people when his mother died.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 месяца назад
Yeah, lot of holes in Brushy’s story
@heidithaw1072
@heidithaw1072 4 месяца назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza Because something is possible does not make it probable.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 месяца назад
Agreed
@trdb83
@trdb83 5 лет назад
Doing research on my family I discovered tons of amazing things. They were a bit naughty. Anyhoo, the reason I’m writing this is that my family had the same names repetitively. They would change the middle name. Also the exact same names were used by each of the brothers in each generation. It’s made sorting it all out a absolute nightmare.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 5 лет назад
Very interesting! And I feel your pain. Researching my own family tree has proven to be extremely difficult.
@Joseppy420
@Joseppy420 Год назад
Is this podcast on Spotify or Apple?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Год назад
It's on both
@versetripn6631
@versetripn6631 3 года назад
"Brushy" Bill Roberts seemed to be the Antithesis of a character in the first 'Young Guns', "Buckshot" Roberts, ("killed more men than Small Pox!"). HE seemed the Antithesis of the 'Young Guns 2' character, 'H.W. French', ("Buckshot George"), who'd lost his wife "...to the Pox." I can do this ALL day!
@versetripn6631
@versetripn6631 3 года назад
1) YG 1, Dick draws on Billy, who responds lightning fast and decisively passive. Dick calls Billy to the yard. Who will lead? "Buckshot" arrives. His rep precedes him. Dick dares/challenges Billy to NOT be passive. Billy arrogantly walks into fire, retreats and refuses. Fear? Dick eventually approaches, draws fire and and dies. 1st TRUE 'Regulator' down. Billy leads... 2) YG 2, H.W. French joins Billy's crew of...misfits? Hoping for "an army", Billy stays positive inspecting H.W.'s shotgun before learning his friend Garrett will leave to run an "eatin' house". (Like the place where Dick died) After Chavez, 2nd to last Regulator, dies...Billy sinks. Doc's sentiment rings true regarding riding the rest of them, (including "kid" Tom) "Straight to Hell!" The Farmer, sought a name earlier, a rep. Billy, remembers "Buckshot", as THAT moment of fear, that "Test" Billy failed, now haunted him. He faced the responsibilty for ALL of their deaths. H.W., lone survivor, who Billy had 'Tested' (at Chisum's was hesitant and indecisive), was now bestowed the name of He who'd initially stricken Billy to this dark and foreign land. Billy wasn't mocking French, he was showing respect and apologizing. I just thought of the YG 1 end battle where Billy, Fearless and Decisive, shoots both Charlie Crawford and L.G. Murphy... from a distance.
@versetripn6631
@versetripn6631 3 года назад
I own the 1st film. Been watching them since '89. What I just wrote, I JUST took into consideration after the "Brushy Bill" topic. Thank YOU!
@versetripn6631
@versetripn6631 3 года назад
I mentioned Billy failing a "test" before Dick was shot. I was considering the moment Tunstall was killed. As Billy had just left his side and witnessed his death. No test in that moment as Tunstall had insisted Billy be with "the Boys". Truth is everyone of them, (Dick eapecially!) Failed collectively by not watching their 6 after the party and remaining 24/7 alert upon Murphy's "Get ready for Hell!" warning.
@robsim4692
@robsim4692 3 года назад
Ok maybe he killed Billy but what's a fact is one of the deputies on the scene said you killed the wrong man Pat the only other deputy there recanted saying he lied and it wasn't Billy! The man's house where Billy is said to be killed said Billy was killed on the porch and Pat hid under the porch among other things in the stories he shared and passed down to his family. Brushy Bill Roberts had a 93% facial recognition using software which is enough to support a conviction in court of law. Maybe he was Billy maybe he wasn't but what he was for certain was a murderer !
@RoRo-kc8zv
@RoRo-kc8zv 3 года назад
We all want to be billy “the kid” deep down inside but reality is Billy “the kid” died in 1881at Fort Sumner !!!!!! brushy was just a crazy old man
@gavster_killa4591
@gavster_killa4591 3 года назад
A crazy old man that knew the history, had the scars, and who’s been photo lines up forensically perfect I think it’s him
@RoRo-kc8zv
@RoRo-kc8zv 3 года назад
@@gavster_killa4591 billy the kid had blue eyes!!! Brushy did not
@Seigster1
@Seigster1 3 года назад
@@RoRo-kc8zv not true they both had the same eye color same ears and Brushy was born in 1859 and died in 1950
@walts4856
@walts4856 8 месяцев назад
I think the Lew Wallace who wrote Ben Hur was General Lew Wallace from the Union Army who was killed in April 1861 at the Battle of Shiloh .
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 8 месяцев назад
He was a Union General but he didn't die until 1905. Ben Hur was published in 1880.
@joesmith289
@joesmith289 4 года назад
If you look at the tintype of Billy with his Winchester and the mystery in upstate picture Billy has uneven eyes. His right eye is slanted and his left eye seems normal. Brushy Bill's eyes are both perfectly even. (Also tintype pictures are reversed when taken Billy was right handed.)
@jimbeam1890
@jimbeam1890 4 года назад
I understand early tin types the subject had to remain motionless for a length of time. Any movement could cause distortion to the image.
@nathanb5579
@nathanb5579 2 года назад
No, his head is tilted
@KruglugBadax
@KruglugBadax 2 года назад
You can’t really go by that Billy the Kid photo. I mean it looks blurry compared to the other Wild West photos of that time. Plus, he looks somewhat intoxicated. I wouldn’t rule it out being Brushy, especially as they both have what looks to be mismatched eyebrows which is a rarity. The only thing I will say is their jaws are kinda different…
@pinkushatejar
@pinkushatejar 11 месяцев назад
Here's some things to consider for anyone interested: Pat Garrett in two separate incidents shot and killed men accidentally, having thought they were Billy the kid. They were wanted men, so he didn't get in legal trouble. The man Brushy Roberts said Pat shot wasn't wanted and wasn't a criminal, so if he had in fact shot the man it would be murder. The state of New Mexico didn't award Pat the award money because there wasn't enough evidence he killed Billy. They issued warrants for Billy's arrest after he "died" because they weren't positive. Details regarding many events and information that was entirely unknown to even well versed experts were given by Brushy, before it was publicly known even to experts.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 11 месяцев назад
The state of New Mexico absolutely did award Pat Garrett that money. This is proven and documented, you can even read the official act and letters from the Governor and others affirming their belief that Pat killed the Kid. Members of the Santa Fe Ring pitched in their own money on top of it. Garrett would run for office more than once and he had many enemies who thoroughly trashed his name in the papers. They called him everything from a drunk to an atheist and even made fun of his wife but nobody ever, not once, accused him of not killing Billy. Nobody in New Mexico thought the Kid was still alive. No, Brushy didn't know things that the experts didn't. He made his claim in 1950, not 1890. Much of what Brushy "knew" he got from books, especially the Saga of Billy the Kid which was published in 1926.
@Rollin_L
@Rollin_L 4 месяца назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza Amen, Brother Josh.
@hunterbrookes
@hunterbrookes 4 года назад
Very good podcast man.. Your very humble.. Keep up the great work with these interesting topics 👍
@hgarza1136
@hgarza1136 3 года назад
Wait a minute, BIGFOOT isn't real? 😡😡😡😡
@blaze3884
@blaze3884 3 года назад
I believe Brushy Bill was in fact Billy the Kid. The scars were there, the facial structure was there. I have had people say the eyes were different colors. Newsflash, as we age, eye color can and does change. My eyes are hazel, but when I'm either really stressed out or pissed off they can turn an icy blue. People are gonna believe what they want, I go by my gut and my good sense. Both of which told me, Billy and Brushy were one and the same. Thanks for doing this, you did a damn good job.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
Thank you, Blaze
@bryanfranks1378
@bryanfranks1378 2 года назад
I am a 3rd cousin of Billy the Kid on my Father's side my grandma had a wanted poster that she kept under glass on her desk , she passed away in 1983 and she swore until the day that she died that Pat Garret did not shoot Billy the Kid !
@dondeatonjr6390
@dondeatonjr6390 4 года назад
But a 21 year old back then is like a 35/40 year old now days
@thejakefromstatefarm6768
@thejakefromstatefarm6768 3 года назад
garret killed tom ofaliard mistaking him as the kid then he killed bowdrey thinking he was the kid so a third mistaken killing might look a bit unprofessional but i’m not ready to believe brushy was the kid. bloody beaver is kinda nasty by the way wtf
@ReservoirPunk
@ReservoirPunk 3 года назад
I thought this silly theory was dead. Didn't Brushy die in his 70s? If he was Billy the Kid, he would have been around 90 when he died. That alone kills this theory, no? Not only that, but Brushy wasn't fluent in Spanish(BTK was). Brushy knew some Spanish but certainly wasn't fluent. Couple that with the fact that pictures of Brushy as a young man look absolutely NOTHING like Billy's famous tin type. Honestly I don't see how anybody can believe Brushy Bill's claim.
@grifce
@grifce 3 года назад
Who said he was 70?
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 2 года назад
@@grifce Brushy's niece.
@grifce
@grifce 2 года назад
@@attilathehun0 false
@craigcottrell944
@craigcottrell944 6 месяцев назад
Brushy was older like 90
@phlipperbrooks129
@phlipperbrooks129 Год назад
As usual ... excellent info and hilarious delivery. Love the channel.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Год назад
Much appreciated!
@jesusistheonlyway1017
@jesusistheonlyway1017 5 лет назад
I think brushy was really billy the kid
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 5 лет назад
What's the most convincing argument in Brushy's favor?
@HEYBERT1984
@HEYBERT1984 4 года назад
I agree
@twiceasnice985
@twiceasnice985 4 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganzaout of all his arguments I would say four people who knew billy the kid when brushy bill came out said it was him and it was olny four that knew him so all the last surivivors who knew billy the kid all said brushy bill was him . He got a few things muddled up in his 90's im 34 and i get things from my 20's muddled up now never mind in another 60 years
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
@@twiceasnice985 I feel ya, bro. I just don't think those eyewitnesses were credible. And I feel like he got more than a few things muddled. Thanks for listening and thanks for the comment!
@twiceasnice985
@twiceasnice985 4 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza matter of opinion mate . To be honest i might be biased and just choosing what i want to believe. He did however speak spanish, was ambidextrous , have the same scars and many other things.Each to their own but i think brushy bill was billy the kid. We'll never know though
@thetruthseeker8142
@thetruthseeker8142 2 года назад
If brushy was billy the kid then how would he have sent governor lewis a letter in 1879 if thats the case brushy would have been 0 years old in 1879 lol so if 0 year old can write in cursive like that then they were way ahead of our time so theres no way brushy is billy sadly we all want to believe billy didnt die and lived long but facts are facts.
@siringo55
@siringo55 4 года назад
Enjoyed the story and research... I believe BTK was shot by Garrett. A coroners jury was called to examine the body the next day and they confirmed it as BTK. Also, the local women prepared the body for burial. There were many people involved in the process and it is really difficult to believe that someone would not have said something over the years if it was not BTK. The "Kid" was a fairly good gambler. It would seem strange he would suddenly give that up, as he must have needed money to live on after his escape. Yet, there is no info that I have yet seen that says "Brushy Bill" did any gambling. I also believe I read somewhere that "Brushy Bill" only knew a few words of Spanish and was not as fluent as BTK in the language. Furthermore, "Brushy Bill" was illiterate while BTK could read and write and write well, read his letters to Gov Wallace. I have done quite a bit of reserch on Charles Siringo who spent a couple of weeks with the kid in Texas. Charlie became a Pinkerton detective and was well known in his time and he never expressed any doubt that Garrett shot the kid. He also knew Garrett. On a new subject.... If your doing a podcast on Butch Cassidy and his return to the U.S. from Bolivia, you might like to try and research some history in Pahrump, NV. There is a "Butch Cassidy" pass there and the story is that Butch died in a mining accident at the Johnny mine and was actually buried there. True or not, it is pretty certain that Butch returned to the U.S. from Bolivia and lived a long life here.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Thanks man! And I did do an episode on Butch already, specifically about his death. Check it out and let me know whatcha think - The Mysterious Death Of Butch Cassidy.
@RemyJackson
@RemyJackson 11 месяцев назад
I also believe Garrett killed Billy the Kid. Garrett killed 2 of Billy's friends, and Billy killed 2 of Garrett's men escaping from jail. There would have too much bad blood between them for Garrett to just let him go. Also, I doubt Billy would have let Garrett live if given the chance to kill him.
@ferdburfel6347
@ferdburfel6347 10 месяцев назад
Where is the legal documentation saying the jury saw the body? You are correct. It doesn't exist. Are these the words from Pat "Oh Shit I shot the wrong guy" Garrett? Don't feel bad, you're not the only one who got fooled by this.
@siringo55
@siringo55 10 месяцев назад
There was a document signed by members of the coroner's jury confirming it was BTK's body
@ferdburfel6347
@ferdburfel6347 10 месяцев назад
@@siringo55 was this the first coroner's jury report that a member said they all signed but never saw the body? Yes someone said this. Or was this the second jurors inquest that was written in Spanish? Or was it the third one that was written? What always puzzled me was how the hell did Pat Garrett lose the first jurors report? How convenient. Who wrote the first report ? Want to take a guess? The second report was written in Spanish. Pat Garrett couldn't write in Spanish. I wonder who dictated that one? I see a pattern here. Everything that happened that night was because Pat Garrett said so. All this is out there to be found. If people have questions about what I wrote, don't ask me. Ask the people who put the information out there to be found.
@bubbajones6486
@bubbajones6486 Год назад
Fuckin lost it over the “chronic masterbater, Bill O’Reilly” skit…hahahahahaha well played sir, well played. Hahaha bet I don’t pepper that title into my daily life. Hahahahaha
@dawudbish3860
@dawudbish3860 3 года назад
And he named his daughter Georgia! Haha. Favorite boxer of all time!
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 3 года назад
Great man
@ericmuhammed2859
@ericmuhammed2859 2 года назад
You meAn one man, test the hAnd writing of thAt one man becAuse Brushy Bill and Billy The Kid were One in the Same.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 2 года назад
Is your A key stuck?
@ericmuhammed2859
@ericmuhammed2859 2 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza What do you mean ?
@ericmuhammed2859
@ericmuhammed2859 2 года назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza No A stands for Allah God so I Always use A as A capital letter
@joecool152
@joecool152 5 лет назад
a.k.a. billie eilish lmfao
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza 4 года назад
Duh
@michaelleblanc7283
@michaelleblanc7283 Год назад
How do 'they' know the famous 'Billy the KId' tintype Billy the Kid tintype (Fort Sumner 1879-80) is really a photo of the 'Kid'. Does anyone know its story and the connection to Fort Sumner ?
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Год назад
Yes. So those tintypes were "printed" on 4 different plates, so there were originally 4 identical photos. Only one exists now and we know Billy gave it to his friend Daniel Dedrick who in turn gave it to his nephew Frank Upham. It stayed with that family until the 1980s, then a museum, and now I believe it's owned by a collector. Also Paulita Maxwell is on record as saying it was him.
@WildWestExtravaganza
@WildWestExtravaganza Год назад
I think the only record of the photo being taken at Ft Sumner comes from Walter Noble Burns. I could be mistaken though.
@michaelleblanc7283
@michaelleblanc7283 Год назад
@@WildWestExtravaganza Flattered by your attention and answer(s). The reason I ask is because of the 'Market Worth', flux of novel claims of new discoveries and the more of less relatively modern discovery of the famous 'Tintype'. . . if I understand it's story correctly. Downloaded the wiki version best version. After flipping the image horizontally (tintypes are mirror images - not real images) played with it using a simple graphic editor and a highly enlarged image. Realized the jaw look borishly large because of poor contrast and his eyes seem much smaller/squinty than they actually are. He may have had a slight right-side 'buck tooth'. May try playing with it with a better graphics editor I have. Just have the thought of having to re-learn the program again when there is so much more to do.
@youtubeblows3643
@youtubeblows3643 4 года назад
It honestly breaks my heart that Brushy isn’t Billy... I wanted it so much but in the end it just isn’t so... great video though huge penis josh
@tedbrogan1
@tedbrogan1 3 года назад
I love your screen name!
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 3 года назад
Despite Pat Garrett's flawed book of Billy the Kid. It does not prove Brushy Bill Roberts is Billy the Kid. Fort Summer was a very remote abandoned military out post in 1881 and did not have a bunch of photographers roaming around. Parading Billy the Kids corpse through town does not make sense in Fort Sumner, but Lincoln county which would of been a 90+mile ride. There is not one Brushy Bill Roberts fan that will look at the actual pictures of Brushy and Billy their response is about a study using FBI photo recognition techniques saying it's a match. There are no pictures of Custer's mutilated corpse, but that does not prove he survived the Battle of Little Big Horn. Not all outlaws had pictures of their corpse no their corpse's paraded through town. For Jesse Evans, Jesse James and Billy the Kid being alive almost 70 years later does not even make sense. You have 3 desperate old men claiming to be who they were not. All they wanted was to be famous before they kicked the bucket!
@jameswagner2634
@jameswagner2634 2 года назад
Brushy bill was a man with visions of grandeur that about sums it up.😎🇺🇸👍
@thejamesbondshow9754
@thejamesbondshow9754 Год назад
Wow...You're so wrong....
@tommyhenderson8985
@tommyhenderson8985 Год назад
Morrison could have made alot of that shit it was to fantastical
@leeguidry9850
@leeguidry9850 2 года назад
“Real recognize real”….(hearing you tap your chess two times) ….. I spit coke out my nose
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