We use a similar system for keeping harmful algal blooms out of ocean aquaculture sites. Moving air is a far more efficient way of moving water. Thanks for the excellent information and inspiration. Going to be incorporating a similar system in a swim pond build in September, but it'll be clay lined opposed to synthetic liner, looking forward to that challenge. Another design will be a sub surface sand bubbler using a similar technique to keep the beach sand oxygenated. Keep up the great work.
Mr Butler you are inspiring. Taking something like a drip hose and using it as a bubble curtain is fantastically simple but brilliant. Thank you for all of your hard work and for sharing your findings.
I have used this idea of yours on a pond that is in a subtropical situation, close to the sea. It only lasts about 3 to 4 months before algea grows in it, but as it is very cheap, I just replace it. It has worked wonders on the pond. Thank you for the idea.
I was wondering if that might happen. Maybe try soaking the hose in a bucket with peroxide/water then flush with a spigot. Definitely going to add this under my pool’s floating wetland 👌
My son does Tik Tok films and I feature on a few recent ones - someone also commented I looked like James May - the Poundland version . P.S. Poundland is a very cheap (everything a pound) shop in the UK
@@organicpools-davidpaganbutler damn that’s harsh. I definitely wouldn’t go that far, but your resemblance to James is uncanny as well as your delivery. Much love brother keep up the awesome content.
I bought this tubing for my wife this summer for watering the polytunnel and I DIDN'T think about pumping air through it LOL. I'll be doing this! thanks.
Just found your channel and wow what a smorgasbord of great ideas and techniques. I love the South Park like animation too 😎 Oh yeah hola from Costa Rica
What a great idea, I love the simplicity of your recommendations and plans. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! By the way, was this shot in December? If so, kudos on swimming and getting in the water in less than warm temperatures :-)
Fantastic idea David! You think this could be part of the original build under a thin layer of substrate to make it look more natural? or maybe this would disturb the biofilm and generate debris in the water... What do you think? Thanks again for sharing.
Here's a challenge for your ingenuity. Have considered / tested a suitable method for creating a jacuzzi / spa area using the bubble pump system? Do you think you can create a strong enough flow to produce the massage effect jet outlets?
As far as I know, hardened sludge is what plugs and brings an end to rubber air diffusers? In wastewater treatment, high pressure forces sludge to counterflow into the pores and the warmth of the air pushed through hardens the sludge? For this use - it's much less air pressure than in wastewater treatment reducing the counterflow? And, there's no sludge to harden and build up over time. A good soaker hose used as soaker hose can last as long as 4 years before clogging from mineral deposit buildup. But you won't get deposits with air. I'm hoping on getting at least 5 years?
airstones used in small fish tanks lower the pressure of air, it's similar how when you use small water mist nozzles, those require lot of pressure so for deep ponds it's better to not use those stones and just use some drip irrigation heads or perforated pipes
Thank you for sharing, i will build and organic pool in patagonia argentina with your ideas. One cuestion only. With these air ribbon, can I replace bubble pipes? or you suggest keeping them as well? Thanks again!
Loved the video, can anyone please tell me if this does away with the need for the underground air system that flows out of the 6 or 8 plastic pipes just below the surface.? Southampton UK
Hi John and others, thank you for your interest. This air ribbon is easily incorporated into the pool build but should only be considered as an addition to the standard bubble pump and plant based filtering. In most circumstances it will be beneficial, but if incorrectly positioned it may lift sediment and nutrient into the water column and encourage algae. So if fitted, it would be best to incorporate a plastic stop valve into the air supply to control the flow and turn it off if needed.
Great. I did the same thing to keep debris away from a dead spot, only 2m though :) what did you use to make the holes and how do you ensure the holes stay upright? So max 10 holes for 60L/h pump?
You buy this hose from garden suppliers. There are multiple holes all over it. So you dont need to worry about which way they are facing. Plus air will naturally head to surface anyway and its not a huge pressure of air coming out.
Is there a basic video that shows how these pools work? Like, can the regen zone go below the main one? Can they be the 'same pool'? What is the regen zone?
Mr David Pagan Butler! My question is this: When will we see the first PUBLIC INDOOR organic swimming pool lets say with an olympic size pool😮 Can it be done? With thousands of daily users?🤔
What's the carbon footprint on thousands of daily users driving/being transported to and from the public pool? To get thousands to come, many will be coming from a considerable distance away. 🏊🏊💒🚙🚙🚌🚃🚂🚙🚋🚁🛩🚑🚗🚐🏎🏎🚔🚙🚂🚌🚐🚚🚒🚗🚃🚕🚕🚗🚜🚲🚛🚓🚗🚕🚕🚐🚎🏎🚎🚙🚙🚌🚌🚕🚐🚐🏠
@@amiratilly5900carbon footprint 😷 The elites who own dussins of villas and boats, jets mm after have stolen our money and tax don't care about their foot print, only about the working class' footprint. They want everyone, not them of course, to live in 15 min cities without a possibility to get out, just like you. I don't care about carbon, carbon is good and all living beings need it
We don't want the pipe too deep as it will stratify the water and some animals rely on vertically migrating to their preferred temperature. Even a shallow depth of pond water will attenuate UV dramatically, so the pipe will last a long, long time - not the most scientific of answers, I admit.
Hi Roysta, I love waterfalls in the wild but an artificial waterfall would need a conventional higher power pump - so I don't incorporate them. A pond waterfall may quickly be covered in string algae too. As an alternative, I'm happy to look at equally mesmerising bubbles.
@@organicpools-davidpaganbutler what design would you use to use an airlift pump as a normal fountain pump? I.e. Airlift hidden behind rocks and water volume pumped thru a reed bed/veg zone? I have an idea just not sure if it would work as designed
Hello David, I’m impressed for what simplicity of your idea; very good. Love all information. Question, do you put holes on that rubber? . Thank you very much.
@@abcdecghijklmn The deeper you go , the greater the water pressure. Greater the water pressure, the less air volume per sec. Depths greater than 600mm, the average air pump loses the capability to pump a useful amount of air, negating any benefits. You could buy an air compressor or piston pump, but they are noisy, not energy efficient and need maintenance weekly if continuously running.
Hi, just to add to Graphite comment. Also, we don't want the pipe too deep as it will stratify the water and some animals rely on vertically migrating to their preferred temperature.
You are my inspiration. I am trying to build my own organic pool, back here in Colombia. Here is the start: pbs.twimg.com/media/Ep0X8x-XEAAIK_w?format=jpg&name=medium. It's full of raining water. I am drying it to install the polyethylene geomembrane. My two main concerns are the solar system to install the bump system and the hill where the pool is located at. All the best David.
