Budget vs Premium AR10 Rifles | ADM UIC-10A vs PSA Super SASS

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The Palmetto State Armory Sabre Super SASS or the American Defense Manufacturing UIC10? Which do you choose? PSA or ADM?
One of these two 308 AR10 rifles is nicer but is it that much nicer? They are both very expensive rifles and touted as being accurate but are they? Both have great scopes which are perfectly matched for the platform. One with a Nightforce NX8 2.5-20 and the other a Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18. Each have well made barrels from Criterion or Faxon firearms.
We deep dive and review the PSA Super Sass and the ADM UIC10 against each other and hope to help you choose which one is worth your time and your space!
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@user-qp8et2ne9l 18 дней назад

What I see is that if you want a pretty decent AR10, get the Sabre.

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

That would be a correct observation

@waynecastleman1363 18 дней назад

Yep the Sabor !

@hawaiiangunner 14 дней назад

Buy the absolute cheapest AR-10 rifle you can. Replace the barrel and Bolt. You will end up with an unbelievably accurate rifle for a great price

@01Sassoon 13 дней назад

@@hawaiiangunner Yup, correct... If you're going to spend your cash. Barrel, Bolt, and Trigger.

@John_439 2 дня назад

Love mine.

@Matt-dd3cw 17 дней назад

I love your content, and I have a ton of respect for your shooting ability. That said, I want to share something as I had a very similar experience the first time I shot my LMT MWS 20" 6.5 CM. During my first range outing, using high-quality otm Factory ammo, every 5 round group was between 1.5 - 3 MOA at 100 yards. I was beyond disappointed, as I had just spent over $3,000 for the rifle, and another $2500 for the optic setup After doing some research, as difficult as it was to admit, the cause of the poor grouping was me. Initially I thought it had to be the rifle, because I routinely shoot sub .3's with my Accuracy International bolt action rifle. However, I have learned that heavy bolt action Precision rifles are a much more forgiving forgiving platform to shoot accurately The AR-10 platform will exploit any flaw you have in your shooting fundamentals. I find when I shoot with a soft shoulder, focus on trigger press and follow through, bring my thumb to the strong side, and keep the trigger pinned back until the recoil cycle is over, my groups improve significantly. I'm also consciously neutral on the bipod, I do not load it (especially with Atlas or that Magpul) . These have all helped me stay sub MOA with the exact same ammo when I focus on all of the above. Any lack of focus will produce a bad shot. When I do everything right, I now consistently shoot .5 MOA - .9 MOA with 130 gr Berger hybrids I love to hate trying to shoot tiny groups with the AR-10

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Thanks for the information, I appreciate the candor. I have shot it since then with no luck. But we shall see what happens! Thanks for watching and the input!

@Matt-dd3cw 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannelI would try one other thing, try using a benchrest style front rest or at least a big heavy front bag along with a rear bag. Eliminate the bipod as a variable

@brandonbryant3586 13 дней назад

Got an ADM UIC 13.9 last year. Came with a loose barrel nut that was barely noticeable. Great gun once I took care of it. But whoa buddy, they got some folks to have a talk with in the offices.

@HuntFishShootChannel 13 дней назад

Good to know! Thanks for sharing!

@davidwoolard1264 18 дней назад

I don't feel so bad with my $600 gen2 pa10 now. I can by a lot m80 ball with that extra two grand.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Yes you can!

@BadActor- 18 дней назад

Thanks For The Honesty..... An Endangered Trait In Modernity....

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

I really wanted to see both of them shoot better, even shot them after this video hoping they were flukes but returned the same results. Fringe 1 MOA at best with 6 different common match ammos

@BadActor- 18 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel Both Nice Weapons.... Must Be The Knights Secret Sauce ... Ha ha

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

@BadActor- maybe! This UIC is very nice but I haven’t found the right bullets which must be ultra special because I tried all the popular match ammos with 1-1.5 MOA results. Not what I want

@revolutionanarchy713 18 дней назад

@@BadActor- Seekins SP10 has entered the chatroom...

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Need an SP10

@mrwagner01 18 дней назад

Might be interesting reaching out to criterion actually, they’re crazy about tolerance stacking, your bcg, bolt head, head spacing everything. They might be able to point you in a better direction to tighten up that ADM.

@Jrude22 17 дней назад

I would take PSA as the winner. Almost same moa but alot difference in price.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Very true!

@__Dave__ 17 дней назад

Now that’s a no b.s. review if I’ve ever seen one, nicely done

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Thank you!

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

#MakeGunReviewsHonestAgain2024

@IROD808 15 дней назад

Great video brother ! Keep getting it !

@HuntFishShootChannel 15 дней назад

Thanks!

@David-j3n 18 дней назад

Great video. I appreciate your honesty on these rifles, Mike have you heard or know anything about the VK1 Ar15 that seems like a excellent rifle

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

I need to try one of those!

@David-j3n 18 дней назад

The site for that rifle is VKTR industries. I'm kind of torn between that one and the Mitchell def I want a great one and done home def and range mpr rifle

@user-po5uc8te7f 18 дней назад

Man, I wanted at least one of those to shoot really well! That's the most important criteria for sure!

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Agreed. They shoot ok but not great

@jacobdeem8187 17 дней назад

Did we hear round count on each gun? I don't feel like I did. This certainly makes a difference

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@jacobdeem8187 over 50 on the ADM and 20 on the Sabre before filming. It’s 2024 and a quality well made barrel especially one that is lapped, doesn’t need a break in. But if a gun shoots 1-1.5 MOA, it’s not all of a sudden going to shoot .5 with break in. Do some gun barrels need a break in? Sure but not high end barrels.

@jacobdeem8187 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel some do some don't need a break in period. I'm not big on break in periods but I've seen plenty of barrels that speed up and tighten up with varying round counts.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@jacobdeem8187 agreed, it can be case by case basis no doubt

@user-do1fq8oy9c 18 дней назад

Wish you would have had an SR25 or LWRCI REPR on hand to set a standard to compare these to

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Ain’t that the truth!

@hopewilliams6705 18 дней назад

Great job 👍

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Thank you! 🙏

@SonotCali 17 дней назад

I shoot an 18 inch and I get those groups with 150 grain. I'm yet to try match ammo 168 /175 grain.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

The 168 A-MAX Hornady is accurate in every gun I shoot them in except for these unfortunately. Usually if I shoot a gun with that ammo and it doesn’t shoot well, it’s the gun not ammo.

@SonotCali 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel I'm going to try some match ammo and see what I can do with my aero

@ThinLineDefenseCo 8 дней назад

10:31 The bipod rail isn't connected. I'm sure it doesn't hurt anything but you may want to be aware it flex'd and pulled away from the handguard for just a moment

@HuntFishShootChannel 8 дней назад

Thank you for the heads up!

@ryimscaith1593 16 дней назад

I always tell people the same thing here. It depends on your skill sets. If you have no gunsmithing skill, pay the money for top end product. If you routinely break down your rifles blindfolded, custom design parts and accessories, and hand load your own ammo to the third decimal point on powder and bullet grain, well, then you can go cheaper and fix/alter what needs. It's like buying a car. You don't buy a beater if you barely know where to check the oil. That being said, I love my PA-10 Gen3 after I fixed the timing issue causing the firing pin to hit primer so hard it sometimes blew holes through the primer. Consistently shoots .5-.75 MOA at 100m.

@HuntFishShootChannel 16 дней назад

Thanks for sharing

@jordankrych8747 17 дней назад

Is that a Garmin Instinct 2? I have one and love it, great watch!

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

That’s the one! Still ticking, it’s about 5 years old now!

@waltermullaney5041 17 дней назад

I've heard after around 100 rounds these precision barrels tighten up their groups. I've certainty experienced this with hunting rifles. I'd be interested to see a follow up. To be honest I've never actually seen a gas rifle shoot sub moa so 1.5 to 2 might be as good as it gets. Thanks for the honest review!

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

A follow up will happen if they get more accurate! Some gas guns struggle for 1 MOA but these shouldn’t be. Thanks for watching!

@waltermullaney5041 16 дней назад

Absolutely take care brother!

@thegoodsheperd1189 2 дня назад

Great video

@HuntFishShootChannel 2 дня назад

Thank you!

@downonit22 18 дней назад

damn, i put a 20inch Criterion chrome lined barrel in my PA10 gen2 with the JP headspaced bolt. Rounds touch with m80 ball if im doing my part.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

That is awesome! Maybe I get there one day with an ammo I choose but not right now

@downonit22 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel I'm definitely not suggesting I'm a capable shooter. The system is certainly more accurate than I am lol. I did run different ammo through it too, Hornady 178gr BTHP was also very accurate. I'm pretty tempted to try AAC offerings

@LONEWOLF_LCD 17 дней назад

I have a good amount of experience with Criterion 556 barrels and I have to say I was really surprised by this….. I built a LMT MARS H 6.5 CM and was kicking around getting a Criterion barrel made for it….. I’ll stick with my LMT barrel for now, try some Berger 175 gr and see what that does in both, if not send the gun to Criterion and ask Mike Ross to play around Willy’s it and do his magic

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@LONEWOLF_LCD I have a few different ammos I’ll have to try and get because many of the usually 308 match ones haven’t worked

@Schultz344 13 дней назад

A good alternative to these AR10s is the seekins SP10. I've gotten better groups from ball ammo than what's shown in this video. Floats around 1" with fed gmm 175gr sometimes under some over.

@HuntFishShootChannel 13 дней назад

I need an SP10 in my life!

@greasemonkeyviking384 16 дней назад

Love your channel man a little suggestion if I may, a better rear bag setup will help a lot, rifle sinks a lot in the rear on recoil in video and will cause your high fliers, bipods on a bench with ar10’s is a no go, better off prone and load heavy on those pods or shoot a sand bag front rest if on bench, keep that trigger pinned after the shot breaks it helps tremendously with follow through and finger stays in sane position for all the rounds fired in the group. Both those rifles will shoot 1 moa or better with federal gold medal match and the proper technique

@HuntFishShootChannel 16 дней назад

Appreciate the input and you following the channel. But both these rifles will not shoot 1 MOA or better with GMM and proper technique as they won’t do it on a lead sled either. Out of general curiosity, why not off the bench? The bipods are loaded and is easily visible along with pinning the trigger to the rear while shooting the comparison groups, you can even hear trigger reset. I’m all for tips and suggestions but for every tip we receive off the internet there is a contradiction to it three lines down. The bag has worked without flaw in every other video regardless of caliber or rifle but I’m always into better gear. Thanks for the input and watching

@greasemonkeyviking384 16 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel Just suggestions to try, I’ve had my ass kicked by Ar10’s in the past until I adopted different methods. Frank Gali with snipers hide channel has probably the best vids on RU-vid on shooting gas guns accurately. A lead sled will only cause more issues with Ar10’s trust me been there before. Good luck man

@HuntFishShootChannel 16 дней назад

@greasemonkeyviking384 thanks for our the info! Snipers hide is fantastic 🙌

@CNR636 18 дней назад

Is that an a1 or a2 for the psa?

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

These are 308 and this is their Super SASS. It’s a DPMS cut receiver

@xi-deadshot-ix5838 18 дней назад

The psa might need to get “broken in”, & the criterion should’ve been good to go though. Maybe the weight or the round wasn’t best for the twist rate? Or maybe it just doesn’t like that particular load. I’ve had Tula 55gr group better than several different boxes of winchester from white box to some hunting loads that were like $2/round when I bought them.

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Why does it need broken in? It’s a 416R 5r rifled Faxon barrel, meant to be a match barrel and even then I have shot over 50 rounds through it with no change. But we tried 165, 168, 175grain 175 grain. All weights that would be ideal for the barrel. All match grade. Unfortunately no Luck

@garrettshelton5788 12 дней назад

Big thing is its not a PSA barrel, but a Faxon match barrel

@HuntFishShootChannel 12 дней назад

Truth!

@thanehanson6746 4 дня назад

High-end rifle with High-end scope vs cheaper rifle with cheaper scope. PSA did a good job.

@HuntFishShootChannel 4 дня назад

Very true!

@sharkleroad62 18 дней назад

Whats absolutely wild is they outsource the barrel on the super sass vs the m110 at home and the accuracy suffers. Ive been pulling .75" with 168s federal gold medal match out of the m110 at home off a bipod. Some others have gotten below .5 in a lead sled. Super disappointing if the super SASS was a step backwards.

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

I am surprised as well, I have tried that ammo with some luck but nothing near .75

@micahdunleavy9227 18 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannelHe’s lying.. lol He isnt getting .75 with a psa ar10.. if he did it was one group and blind luck..

@sharkleroad62 18 дней назад

@micahdunleavy9227 lmao okay 🤣 literally join MTS and check out the data on more than just my sample size. Guns open up around 800yd but inside they're sub MOA with match ammo if you are...

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

He’s not lying I have shot PSA rifles that shoot that well, even a jakl. But this one hasn’t been it for me

@NavySooner 17 дней назад

It’s a law of diminishing returns.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Yes

@miguelrojas1686 18 дней назад

3 round groups is barely an accuracy test…

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Ok we stated the why and also did the three rounds as show for how most manufacturers demonstrate sub MOA. If they won’t shoot sub MOA 3 shot groups they won’t do it in 5, 6 7 or 9 or 10.

@GM-eb9lv 4 дня назад

Thanks for no Sugar coating and saying how it is

@HuntFishShootChannel 3 дня назад

💪

@Soup-813 17 дней назад

IMO… I’d still get the PSA but I’d swap that barrel out for a Mos Tek

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Roger that

@emc4069 16 дней назад

Bummer Dude! Hopefully the ADM will improve as it gets broken in.

@HuntFishShootChannel 16 дней назад

One will hope!

@jonathanmisetich1520 17 дней назад

Am I the only one that noticed the bipod rail on the PSA was loose while shooting? I feel like that might have contributed to the accuracy issues. I've been shooting a lot of .308 lately and my POF Revolution is just about at 1.25 MOA with the right ammo. I'm also doing 10 round groups though. 3 rounds just doesn't seem like enough to get a solid representation of the barrel's actual accuracy. I know that if I only fired 3 rounds with my POF, I could easily say it's sub-MOA. Last time I took it out, the first 6 rounds were touching and less than a half an inch. Regardless, the accuracy of that ADM is just unacceptable. I would show this video to them and see what's going on with the rifle cause a $3k rifle should shoot better than that.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Not loose at all. The Magpul bipod has significantly more flex and play than the atlas. Three rounds was used as it’s the standard for manufacturers to use for accuracy testing. Bolt guns have no issue reaching sub Moa if they are good rifles with 3 rounds but for some reason less than accurate ARs need 5 or more? The reality is if the gun can’t shoot sub Moa with 3 shots, it won’t do it in 5. In regards to the ADM, I’m dissatisfied to say the least. I have shot it more since we filmed with the same results. There could be an ammo out there but I haven’t found it yet in any of the normal good shooting 308 stuff. Black hills will be next

@jonathanmisetich1520 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel I wasn't referring to the bipod, but the rail it's mounted on itself. I can literally see it separate from the handguard several times through the video while shooting. As for the grouping, I don't think you understood what I said. I'm not saying the rifle would group tighter with a larger amount of bullets per grouping, if anything, it'd be even worse, but that'd be an accurate representation of what the rifle is actually doing. Everyone is moving to 10 round groups now because of what I explained. With my POF, if I do a 3 round group, I can practically stack the bullets on top of each other and claim I have a half-MOA gun, but if I fire just a few more rounds, suddenly my group opens up a bit. It's just to say that 3 round groups are basically luck, as opposed to what the rifle is actually reliably capable of. As for bolt guns, I can think of a number of reasons a barrel manufacturer would only fire three rounds through their bolt gun barrel, but the most prominent being what I just explained. If they only fire 3 rounds and get a quarter-MOA grouping, they can sell the barrel as "Quarter-MOA". It's why you hear these claims of "sub-MOA" guns all day long but as soon as the bullets meet paper, those claims go out the window. Haven't you heard of the 1-MOA-All-Day challenge going around? Forgotten weapons did a great video explaining it and showing it.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@jonathanmisetich1520 you can do ten rounds sure but you are then looking at heat deflection on the overwhelming majority of guns. I understood completely what you said, I have also seen the information from forgotten weapons about this. I don’t care if a manufacturer guarantees sub MOA or not, I want the gun the to shoot it. If a rifle doesn’t shoot it, I generally do not like it. The reason competition rifles have ultra heavy barrels is a the number of rounds in a course of fire can be increased without shot stringing due to the barrel heating up like a lighter contour. It’s important to know every rifles tipping point for heat but most is around 7 rounds, especially gas guns. How much will they deviate? Thats case by case basis. The level of deviation is more or less depending on how good the barrel is or not, high end barrels will deviate yet still remain effective for use under heavy firing schedules while low tier will not. As far as the 1 MOA all day challenge I am familiar depending on which variation we are talking about, it’s been around for a long time. I have 3 particular rifles in my safe I can guarantee I pull out, shoot sub MOA, use a load I know shoots well in them and more importantly I know exactly where my cold bore shot will land. I get rid of rifles which do not shoot sub MOA every time I take them out.

@psychobeam99 17 дней назад

Our economy is really fucked if $1500 is considered budget. That said, even if you dont like the Sabre, accuracy, setup, etc. It's still a solid starting platform to build on. Just swap barrels and maybe other parts, and you can fine tune this into a solid tack driver.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Agreed. It is a shame in the grand scheme of things

@hopewilliams6705 18 дней назад

Griffin armament ambi lower is cheaper and almost identical to the adm!

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Heard that!

@bobbytucker6494 18 дней назад

So true

@user-gh1qf9xs7m 18 дней назад

It’s true, just wish they could get them in stock at some point. Had zero luck getting one

@Ultrarmx 18 дней назад

ADM stole Griffin ambi controls.

@hopewilliams6705 18 дней назад

@@Ultrarmx I know... That's why I buy the Griffin armament products and not the overpriced ADM

@geoffreybrandt6453 14 дней назад

That bipod would go

@HuntFishShootChannel 14 дней назад

Go where? To the moon?

@revolutionanarchy713 18 дней назад

Now for an actual precision ar10, get ya a Seekins SP10...

@revolutionanarchy713 18 дней назад

Where the heck you finding an ADM UIC-10 for $2700, lol???

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Why do you think I own it? 😂 it was 2600 before tax. I saw it, saw the price and thought heck I’ll try it 😂

@revolutionanarchy713 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel well lucky you then. I’ve never seen it that low anywhere. Even with my mil discount in various places.

@DankSandwich 17 дней назад

12mins in and my takeaway thus far is that both rifles need their gas adjusted, a muzzle brake, and possibly some fiddling with buffer weights/springs 15 minutes in and I can say confidently that my Bear Creek Arsenal build is more accurate than both of these. Those groups are pathetic. The BCA is heavier, likely less reliable, and a lot cheaper; but hey I’ll take that win

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

The gas on the PSA could be a touch lower but I tried it and didn’t get lock back on every magazine. The gas on the ADM is fine and weighted perfectly. Outside of not shooting sub MOA the adm is very soft shooting and shoots great like an AR15.

@elboogy 14 часов назад

Super sass vs sig snakebite

@MichaelAstorino 4 дня назад

Sometimes I just want high end shit. I feel that

@HuntFishShootChannel 4 дня назад

For sure 😂

@MontanaWild78 18 дней назад

Those are some crappy groups, dang. I am not expert marksman but my 6.5 Criterion does wayyyy better. That is depressing for either one

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

I agree, unfortunately I either don’t have the right ammo, or they just won’t shoot much better. I went out a day after filming this to test both again just to be sure I wasn’t having a bad day and got identical results. There is likely some ammo out there that shoots very well, I haven’t found it

@MontanaWild78 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel It was a good video. I wish you could test with some factory Berger ammo. If they don’t shoot with that then they probably won’t do any better. Black Hills makes some really good ammo too, so many options in 308.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@MontanaWild78 yeah black hills is next to try. Very surprised the GMM and Hornady didn’t shoot well.

@MontanaWild78 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel I am surprised that the Criterion barrel didn’t do better than it did. I would love to see update videos with different ammo if you find something they like 👍

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@MontanaWild78 there will be update videos if it happens, follow our instagram @huntfishshootchannel also!

@DavidCobb-uc4qr 8 дней назад

I think it may be the shooter

@HuntFishShootChannel 8 дней назад

You should buy both rifles, buy all the ammo and do the same test, but don’t complain if you get similar results

@T1Ballistic 12 дней назад

Buys forged model instead of billet on the sass and then proceeds to complain about it not being billet or the ambi bolt release that the billet has lol

@LosDoyerss 17 дней назад

1,600 dollars for the PSA Sabre is a bit pricey when you can buy an Armalite AR10 for 1,200 dollars.

@ezlife9656 17 дней назад

Nope sabre has way better features

@LosDoyerss 17 дней назад

@@ezlife9656 Like what? Armalite is a proven weapon.

@LosDoyerss 14 дней назад

@@ezlife9656 What features??

@MedicalTape_xX 18 дней назад

I think a 3 round group is an embarrassingly poor test to recommend a purchase on, you also don't in anyway discuss longevity, reliability, warranty, or use case

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

We specifically state why a three shot group was used. In addition 3 shot groups is the standard which 98% of rifles on the market are held to for accuracy guarantees. This is an initial review, not a long term use review. Use case? That’s up to the individual to make that choice. Finally, if this test was poor, do you have an example of yourself making a similar video for us to see how it’s done? If so drop us a link 🙏

@nathanielboos4182 День назад

Unpopular opinion. If you are going to compare the guns then do exactly that. Use the same bipod, same scope, etc. These results are really null until you do those things to begin with. Additionally, 308 in a gas gun is really a 1MOA gun. Are these guns broken in? What is the round count on the barrels? There are too many holes in these reviews to make an assessment. If you really want to compare, then get a gun from each in 6.5 creed. $3000 AR10's in 6.5 creed are easily half MOA guns with a skilled shooter and good factory loads.

@HuntFishShootChannel 22 часа назад

Ok great thanks for the info

@capntexas 17 дней назад

It feels like this is a very low-detail video. You shot 4 groups from each gun and decided “aww man, these suck.” There’s so much more to each of these rifles than a basic accuracy check. I also haven’t watched all of your videos, so I don’t know that you are a sub-MOA shooting human. Not saying you aren’t, but there’s plenty of people who THINK they are, and aren’t. ADM makes guns using premium parts that can be taken to war. It did pretty well accuracy-wise, and after some gas-adjusting would probably be a really reliable battle rifle. PSA has long used their customers (including myself, I also buy PSA) to do their QC for them. This rifle is a step in them trying to use nicer components, so it would be nice to see if they actually run. It had some decent groups too. I get that ammo is expensive, and you don’t want to have to spend more money to produce this video than it would generate. It still comes across that you put minimal effort into developing an opinion on either gun, before throwing that opinion out to the world.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Plenty of effort was placed into this and I have a catalog of videos demonstrating my ability to be a sub .50 MOA shooter if not better. Three hours went into just filming this 15 min long video. Each gun was shot more than enough to show if they had the ability to shoot better. The harsh reality is neither gun shot great with any of the match ammos we used, they shot ok at best. There is likely an ammo out there they will shoot well, but I haven’t found it. There is more than just accuracy, in that case, the ADM is a better rifle. Those points were well established. I didn’t say they sucked either, I just said I wasn’t happy with their accuracy performance. Good rifles, not happy with accuracy out of rifles built for accuracy.

@capntexas 17 дней назад

I get it man. We can’t all be Sage Dynamics throwing 2000 rounds per rifle. Most of my guns haven’t received that in their lifetime that I’ve owned them. I’d prefer more data than four 3-shot groups per gun before I call something a comparison, even if it’s exclusively an accuracy comparison. Glad to know it’s the arrow not the Indian, and that was never an accusation but a caveat that I don’t know your shooting ability.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

@capntexas fair enough and it’s easy to do that many rounds when all your ammo is provide and the content is funded. We are self funded so for now we make do with what we can! Thanks for watching!

@C_oprator89 18 дней назад

Seekins

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

Shooting these two guns for this review and afterwards left me wanting an SP-10. It’s setting in a cart right now

@stingers96 18 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel GAP-10

@stingers96 18 дней назад

also try 168gr Federal GM SMK or the counterstrike

@C_oprator89 18 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel you the dang man!!

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

Thanks!

@user-iz3en5uc4j 15 дней назад

Just got the super sass a week ago and now I’m mad I spent 1700 on something that isn’t sub moa

@Gunfighter5 17 дней назад

People will die on that PSA hill wont they! You can put together a rifle that can shoot better than this for the price of the sabre!

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

You could

@ChoiceBoard 18 дней назад

first

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

If you aren’t first you are last

@hopewilliams6705 18 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel WTF there is second and third.... I was probably high when I said that LoL

@Triggertarzan 17 дней назад

Out of an ar10 platform that psa is garbage. I live in Charleston and I can’t stand PSA. Terrible customer service warranty service and products. To take a classic iconic rifle and ruin it by making a junk great value version makes me sick. That adm to shoot that many loads and have those results whooped that psa ass. Shows why adm, knights, bcm and Daniel defense get contracts

@HuntFishShootChannel 16 дней назад

Good to know

@bryangarcia2429 17 дней назад

That Kung fu grip is disgusting lol, so much i’ll put it up for sale on ebay for $20 if anyone is interested.. was not a fan

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

I enjoy it! The beauty is there are 4 billion other options out there

@bryangarcia2429 17 дней назад

@@HuntFishShootChannel indeed! Ergo grip 4 life

@dudebro29 17 дней назад

PSA=junk

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

😭

@deusvult6632 17 дней назад

At the end of the day it looks more like the shooter rather than the guns. Some dogs just don't hunt.

@HuntFishShootChannel 17 дней назад

I have catalog of me repeatedly squeezing accuracy out of guns on this channel and I don’t need to prove my ability to shoot guns accurately. So with that being said, it’s the guns not the shooter.

@micahdunleavy9227 18 дней назад

Well if you watch focus trips recent video on the jakl then it seems one should stay the hell away from psa’s more premium guns… They build budget guns with poor quality control, so the Sabre is just crap quality control just shinier and prettier still a lot of guns all over the internet failing miserably..

@HuntFishShootChannel 18 дней назад

My gun is very well done and looks great, just only appears to be capable of 1 MOA accuracy. I haven’t seen any of the standard QC issues

@cocobearnoski 10 дней назад

This dude can’t shoot

@HuntFishShootChannel 10 дней назад

Ok 👍

@raymondeldridge6315 16 дней назад

I think maybe revisit with light grain bullet 150, 125 ,135

@HuntFishShootChannel 16 дней назад

If it shoots better with those lightweight bullets I’ll be surprised

@gunnutbikenut6939 3 дня назад

Really how do you know we can’t afford it really pisses me off when I here that crap

@HuntFishShootChannel 3 дня назад

What are we even talking about? if you only read the comment sections

@gunnutbikenut6939 3 дня назад

I guess I misunderstood well I was subscribed to a channel and said if a person couldn’t afford a 4 grand night vision scope you wasn’t shit basically and yeah I was done with that channel yeah it would be nice to be able to afford some of that stuff but there is a lot of other stuff on that list that’s ahead of that night vision scope just get tired of watching some of these clowns that think they are the shit I apologize for not paying better attention