Buffy Sainte-Marie on the importance of telling our own stories 

Probably the biggest name to fall because she's been exposed as a pretendian.

It’s so sad and angering as well that now in 2023 all I hear her saying is lies (and a whole lot of name dropping)..I feel sorry for this wonderful interviewer..and basically everyone.

RIGHT!

Well she tripped up by inconsistency and basically outed by natives more than CBC as fellow natives saw the red flags of a pretindian

Heartbreaking and infuriating 😢🤬🤦🏾‍♀️

Nausea inducing. Beverly "Bluffy" Santa Marina. Pretending to come out of trauma. Just about every award she won was accompanied by honorariums. I'm wondering if she can be charged with fraud. She is, after all, just another white Italian-American woman living on stolen land in Hawaii. - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi

Yes, in hindsight, I can see that she is glib and she often giggles through her interviews.

​@@lindajones8101 I always felt rather creepy about the glib way she referred to childhood sexual assault. I'm a survivor and despite years of therapy, it's never going to be something I'd be glib about.

@@zxyatiywariii8 she says the same thing over and over and each time I recoil when she almost giggles and says there were “paedophiles all over the neighbourhood and in the house”. I always thought that someone who had survived sexual abuse would never speak of it that way.

@@lindajones8101 like .."he even tortured my toys heheheheheh".. that literally smells.

Did she interview any of Buffy's family?

Don't blame Andrea. She likely only wrote what Buffy commanded her to write. It seems like Buffy had a choke hold on her own blood-relatives in Massachusetts, so it makes sense she would on an author who also didn't want her career to suffer.

@@talkingmotanka Andrea Warner should have been curious enough to at least ask Buffy what was the name of the hospital where her birth records were destroyed in a fire and what year did this happen?

Gaps!😂

Total fraud.

Plus on her marriage certificate she mark White, so now she can't use adoption because that change because of her Facebook videos now she said her mom said that she from her mom cheated on her dad ,😮

What else should she have done in your opinion, given that she doesn't know anything about the circumstances of her birth? Should she have insisted that the marriage certificate says "born at an unknown date to unknown parents at an unknown place"? My birth certificate names my stepfather as my biological father. I have the adoption files but do not know for sure who my biological father is or was. It matters to me because my biological father is/was not white, whereas my stepfather was, and I have had to put up with a lot of racism because of this. However, whenever I am required to give the name of my parents on official documents, I always name my stepfather as my biological father. Because I have no better alternative.

And yes, I have made various assumptions about my biological father which are irreconcilable with each other. Because that's what you do when you have no facts to go by.

@@susannakriz746 She has her paternal grandfathers nose. She looks like her siblings. Her son did a DNA test that shows he is a direct relative with Beverly's sister and niece. That is statistically impossible to happen if they are not connected by blood. Beverly's sons' own blood test showed that he is only 50% Aboriginal, which doesn't fit with both parents claiming Native ancestry. She's a theif and a grifter. I'm sorry you had to go through all of the difficulties that you did with your own birth family. - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi

Buffy guided Andreas research,pointing to what she wanted her to see. So she too bought Buffys fabrication. Nobody asked the right questions.

I think she actually did call her out on one fake while she was digging. The only time Buffy ever says she actually never graduated is in the interviews where Andrea is present. In all other interviews before and after she says she graduated top of her class and has a degree in Oriental Philosophy and a degree in Education. She stumbles around it, catches herself mid-lie but only when Andrea is there. Leads me to believe Andrea found that out.

She meant to say she likes “deep dish pizza.” 🍕

That's what's so upsetting. It's not just that she pulled off 'playing Indian.' It's that it was so easy for so many people to buy into it. It shows what we think, when we think of Native Americans.

With her researcher/biographer being confused about the life time gaps 😂

She has also said she made tons of money in the 1960s. She must have because it was in the late 1960s that she bought her land in Hawaii to build her house on.

She slowly leaked out the truth in her sideways style. Mainstream media either doesn't know or just doesn't care. So she will have an easy time sinking back into retirement.

Who’s BQ? 😂

That title is redolent of racist ideology, especially as developed by European fascists.

And cringing at her off key singing!

Gaudy feathers and Navaho turquoise ring 😂

Ikr, and how Joni only became successful because she kept begging Buffy to get her songs to Buffy's contacts, and Buffy did. . . as if Joni needed Buffy's help!

@@zxyatiywariii8 tonight I streamed on Crave the documentary on Buffy called Carry It On. It’s up for an international Emmy. I couldn’t help but feel sorry for everyone who was interviewed, and for the people who directed and produced it. Joni Mitchell is interviewed. The only things she says about Buffy are that she was amazed at how Buffy back in the day could stand on one leg in those coffee houses and dance and not hit her head into the microphone. I thought it was a bit of a dig. She never said that she learned her open tunings on her guitar from Buffy.

But strangely enough she also says she was blacklisted for that song Donovan sang of hers (Universal Soldier), yet he was not blacklisted. My favourite part of this interview is how she says she never actually graduated and doesn't hold those degrees. But it was only in this interview in front of Andrea that she caught herself. Obviously Andrea discovered the truth on that one! And notice how she somehow twists it to sound like she didn't graduate because she was too smart! However she did keep on lying after this interview about having those two degrees and "graduating" at the top of her class. It's reall hard for her to stop lying even when people already know the truth.

Exactly..infuriating to watch her laugh and talk about trauma wth

The snippets of her music that I have heard since the controversy I quite like. I don’t know whether I would like a whole album but I like what has been presented to me.

Actually, since she grew up as an Italian-American, that's much closer to her true self than 'Isketayo Sewow;' so is 'Cod'ine'

she's a liar.

Easy to do when you never lived the first two decades of your life as an indigenous person. She isn’t indigenous, so there was no indigenous trauma. Easy not to be bitter!

@@paddlefar9175 yes, I can see now how glib and superficial she is because she never experienced any trauma either as an indigenous person or I believe as a survivor of sexual abuse.

​@@paddlefar9175 Exactly. She didn't have the trauma, so she can easily be glib.

It’s now becoming a great pasttime of mine to search out some of her old interviews and watch them with the knowledge I have now.

So in another pattern of hers, she slyly manages to slag off Joni Mitchell and Judy Collins by suggesting they went out afterwards, schmoozing with the music industry people to get ahead. whereas she, oh so humble, went home and wrote another song. It’s just one boast after another and I don’t think any of them are true. She’s so vague and the interview is boring because nothing is really being said by anyone. She doesn’t even give us one detail about the so-called domestic violence she suffered. I’m sure that’s because she never did suffer it.

When tearing up an artist is your intention, when your hatred is focused on a person who has given so much to us, a very brave and outspoken women and yes she is an indigeogenous woman! She protected her mother. When someones DNA becomes as important to someone else and another very fine woman artist gets torn to ribbons and cruciified by some ignorant media people who ARE out to make bucks off character assassination and perhaps cover up child abuse creeps me out! I dont care who you are, Linda, as far as I am concerned you are the one who is sufferring from some obsessive disorder.. you have devoted so much time to tearing Buffy apart and you really played into the hands of evil. Take back ypur life and do something good with it. Your obsession with one womans DNA is not worth my own time any more. Im gonna go enjoy some of her great music. By the way. Nothing I saw in that crummy 5th element video incriminates Buffy St Marie. There is one picture that they say is her as a child and it looks nothing like her. Her birth certificate could have been altered as was common practice in Massachussets back then with adoptions, and her mother could have had an affair that resulted in Buffys birth. Neither of those things make her a bad person. DNA is a very small part of what makes us indigeonus. It's our connection to the land as well as our ancestors that gives us our foundation but it does not determine who we become or what we do with our lives. Good job, Buffy . Envious people are vulnerable to being misled by that kind of bullcaca.. Quit fighting online. This is not a courtroom and Its a disgusting act against a truly great woman artist and outspoken advocate for indigeonous people. Its a red flag to me that this shows up at a this time in her life when peoples lives are at the mercy of the silicon based life form known as the internet . I dont care who likes who. I love her and her music ❤. You know, I hope she NEVER TAKES THAT TEST, because it is a direct affront to her dignity as a human being to ask her to but if she did, don't 25:26 you think the lying US government would be sorely tempted to screw with the results and pay for false results saying that she had no indigeonous DNA because she has been speaking truth to the evil powers of this old Roma😮n Empire here since she could first be heard in public. Thank you Buffy.

Those of a particular age do, and her talent is very underrated.

She’s Italian

I knew in the 60’s she was a fake.

They do now

I'm American and I've loved her music all my life. . . before.

Yeah, turns out she's just another white Italian girl from near Boston, MASS.

I hope you don't say that as a Canadian! The only thing true is she is a vulture.

@@mayloo2137 As you may know Americans are so racist that Italians weren't considered as white until recently. You are probably a WASP. 🎯

@@Apachita And you a coyote. 🐺

@@ordyhorizonrivieredunord712 🤔 I did help a Cuban get across over at peace Arch once to the US. Actually I just drove him to the border then met him on the other side, so I wouldn't call myself a Coyote.

She didn't pull it off to those in private though. Her biological family knew, and so did her son who made a very damning post about her on Facebook years ago. Many of those people have benefitted financially from her fame. It's the public she deceived, and since she began doing this at a time when no proof was convenient, and no Internet could do some simple searching, and then later could say what she liked with her parents deceased, we entered a time when it was incredibly distasteful to question someone's ethnicity and she took advantage of that too. Plus, the country adored "her Indigeneity", and it added to her ease of presenting herself that way. She was very lucky to have found some fame in the 60s and 70s to make her known and accepted, allowing her to continue a road paved for her BY the public AND the media, who wanted her to keep it up.

Your experience doesn’t mean it mirrors someone else’s. This woman certainly lied her entire career. Her own family confirmed the lies, 180 pages of documents backed up the truth, and dna proves her deception too.

​@@stacilamb6454 I may be mistaken, but I don't think the OP was saying Buffy didn't lie. . . but that her lies have damaged her sanity. I believe that's very possible.

I believe she's a certifiable narcissist. She probably believes her own hype at this point.

@@talkingmotanka You can't trust what the family of an abuse victim says about him/her. Because they will spin their own story. And yes, it will be coherent. You probably have never heard of Vigdis Hjorth, a Norwegian novelist who also holds academic degrees in literary science and idéhistoria (history of ideas/intellectual history). She's famous in her own country. A few years ago, she wrote a (finely crafted) novel the English tilte of which is "Will and Testament". In it, she tells the story of a woman who assumes that she was sexually abused in childhood because she has various symptoms pointing to it and because of the way her family covers up their dysfunctionality. The only problem is that she doesn't have any clear memories of it. After she had published the novel, her family came forward and said "This novel is a defamation of us" and wanted it banned. Vigdis Hjorth hadn't said anything about it being autobiographical. But her family said that it was clearly about them because they recognized themselves in the novel; and they said that the depiction was accurate except for the abuse, that hadn't happened; and they described Vigdis Hjorth with all kinds of unflattering adjectives which I won't repeat here. Her sister, a human rights lawyer, even wrote a counter-novel. Although Vigdis Hjorth specializes academically in how storytelling shapes our reality and can help us uncover hidden truths, this has not helped her against those who believe that she has lied and defamed her family. They continue believing it. This reminds me a lot of what is going on right now with Buffy Sainte-Marie. There is a blank spot in her personal history which she can only fill by blatantly disregarding the laws of the people who adopted her as an adult and by demeaning herself: that is, taking a DNA test and publishing its results. (It is demeaning regardless how the results turn out. Who are we to assess the value of her accomplishments and her personality on the basis of her ethnicity estimates?) Buffy Sainte-Marie specialises in very short texts, not in long ones, but like Vigdis Hjorth, she has always tried to navigate this blind spot in her biography as truthfully and as faithfully to the available facts as possible. We don't know what exactly went on at the Santamaria's/Sainte-Marie's, but we know that Buffy looking "Indian" was an issue, because her son wrote about it in that (in)famous comment. Her son wrote that she passed herself off as Native to make herself more interesting to men despite of her big nose. He has retracted it in the meantime and written that he wrote things like that when he was angry at her. Well done. It shouldn't have been taken seriously by anyone. It is a typical male, sexist, ignorant thing to say. In my family everyone knew who my biological father was. Most of my mother's friends knew, too. I only found out when I came back from his country of residence for the first time and broke my silence. Only then did I understand that the only person from whom a secret had been kept all those years was I. That traumatised me all over again. Just like incest, family secrets about a child's different ethnic ancestry come with a lot of family dysfunctionalities, which ought to be taken into account when assessing Buffy Sainte-Marie's story. We don't know who knew what and who had told what to whom. Even her sister might not be in on the whole story. I can't find any hints that speak for Buffy Sainte-Marie being a ruthless liar. On the contrary. She has been handling this whole situation with a lot of grace and as rationally as possible. If anything, she downplayed what she has been through.

What?

Probably fake too.

That's the ONE thing I hope is fake. . .

I like the word you chose! It's very fitting. Even her supposed Piapot adoption was apparently instigated by her. All Emile Piapot ever said (old articles) on how they met was she approached him and his cousin immediately after getting off stage at a powwow and asked them to give her a spirit name. Bee-lined over to them is more accurate, with a sinister greedy plot. Total predator!