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@hardybryan
@hardybryan Год назад
Tara is literally the only person who takes time away from what they're doing to just be with Dawn.
@Swooshez90
@Swooshez90 Год назад
That's why she's my favourite character
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
It’s a running theme of the season that everyone is completely self-absorbed, except for Tara.
@larissabrewington9065
@larissabrewington9065 Год назад
I LOVE every reactors "They ALLLOWED this on television", moment in this episode. Hilarious.
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
It would have been more raw if it were on HBO or Showtime.
@alicequinn505
@alicequinn505 Год назад
@Madbandit77 Definitely would've been less clothes, but more raw? Naw
@DanielOrme
@DanielOrme Год назад
Because that's how ALL of us reacted at the time it aired. I know I did. I vividly remember thinking "how can they show this on TV" (and this wasn't pay cable, this was broadcast commercial television). When I jumped online to talk to my Buffy-friends, they were all "did they actually SHOW THAT on TV???"
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
​@@alicequinn505 Uh... that's my point.
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Год назад
lol
@teddyd1414
@teddyd1414 Год назад
If the quote of the day next week isn't “zipper unzipping” I will riot
@SweenyTodd98
@SweenyTodd98 Год назад
"until one day they leave you for no good reason." Possibly one of the most infuriating things Willow has ever said. Like, girl, pay attention!
@Nicamon
@Nicamon Год назад
She's obviously in denial.X-(
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
@@Nicamonshe’s a “good guy” remember Yes, well, Willow. You can be a good guy and still fuck up your relationships. Willow’s arc this season is one of self-awareness and she’s been a character throughout the show with a severe lack of it and it’s mostly because she’s somebody who perceives of herself as unworthy or undervalued and she’s trying to overcompensate for these insecurities and anxieties of which don’t actually exist. In other words. She’s corrupting and sabotaging herself. She’s being forced to look in the mirror and instead of turn away from what she sees, has to sit there and meet her reflection head on even if she desperately doesn’t want to. In turn - those who identify with her do too.
@nicholasjh1
@nicholasjh1 Год назад
I was so mad reading what Willow said I accidently down voted you at first
@datickywickygurl
@datickywickygurl Год назад
Alley before the episode starts: “I hope we get a Buffy and Spike scene in this episode!” Me: Oh you’re getting a scene alright 😏😂😂
@dianakhasanova
@dianakhasanova Год назад
The scene in the end is really metaphoric to how the relationship is between Buffy & Spike, the darkness, the chaos, the passion. How the whole building falls apart on them is how they fall apart on each other. Its epic. Great reaction by the way! PRICELESS!
@RICHIEV333
@RICHIEV333 Год назад
Don't forget, they didn't do this until Buffy found out Spike was dangerous to her.
@lessismore8533
@lessismore8533 2 месяца назад
⁠@@RICHIEV333I mean Spike is soulsss. It really BOTHERS me when ppl only judge souless Spike and not soulful Soike. Not accusing you particularly. He’s still superior to souless Angel..
@RICHIEV333
@RICHIEV333 2 месяца назад
@@lessismore8533 My point was simply that it tells a lot about Buffy's state of mind. She wasn't interested in Spike until he could hurt her.
@naraiceylob
@naraiceylob Год назад
Alley in shock at the fuck a house down scene. I loved that reaction. Shoutout to Alley's patreon Maria for the cameo.
@haydn60
@haydn60 Год назад
❤️
@ernesthakey3396
@ernesthakey3396 Год назад
James Marsters is the absolute best Buffy actor when it comes to supporting the fan and reactor community. Such a great person for doing stuff like this.
@Ggirl1305
@Ggirl1305 Год назад
Wasn't a cameo I went to comic con asked him to record a video for alley in person he was wonderful about doing it. My second time meeting him so used my time for alley instead
@naraiceylob
@naraiceylob Год назад
@Ggirl1305 nice. Well shout out for the personal video. Way to go.
@klarsen117
@klarsen117 Год назад
​@Ggirl1305 the fact that it was just a personal video and something he wasn't paid to do makes the video do much better! He's so freaking awesome ❤
@Mrs.Watcher
@Mrs.Watcher Год назад
Beginning of the episode: Amy deserves an episode about her after being a rat for so long. End of episode: Amy, go back to being a rat!
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
Not a spoiler, really, but I also think “Amy, go back to being a rat” at the end of every subsequent appearance in the show
@peterd9698
@peterd9698 Год назад
Traditionally the episode playing when fans introduce the show to their mum.
@Ebbagull
@Ebbagull Год назад
😂
@rockibirch4477
@rockibirch4477 Год назад
My brother was visiting when this episode first aired. I think his comment was “I didn’t know this was that kind of show.” Well neither did the viewers! 😂
@HelloXrancidkitteh
@HelloXrancidkitteh Год назад
luckily, my mom was the one to introduce Buffy to me lol ( but it was all the way back in season 2 )
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
“Don’t worry, it’s a teen soap with lighthearted horror movie elements”
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
@@HelloXrancidkitteh has the cool mom that everyone was jealous of in high school
@BrightNeonBrilliancy
@BrightNeonBrilliancy Год назад
Dawn and Tara are adorable. Tara is like another mother figure for her, and legit the only scooby who genuinely wants to spend time with Dawn not just because she's a chore or a responsibility.
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
Tara and Willow became her moms after Buffy died. Tara and Dawn are really dealing with a divorce, where one of the partners has become dangerously codependent and abusive.
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Год назад
Willow is an addict, a magic addict, and Amy is an enabler.
@jennarobinson4136
@jennarobinson4136 Год назад
The three episodes in season 6 'Smashed' 'Wrecked' and 'Gone' are all British slang for being really drunk and not being in control of yourself. I don't think 'smashed' was a euphemism for sleeping together when this came out. It fits even better now, though 🤣
@sirmoonslosthismind
@sirmoonslosthismind Год назад
this episode might well be the origin for that meaning of "smashed"
@Dunybrook
@Dunybrook Год назад
Magic has consequences, especially the really dark magic used in resurrecting someone. This is not your average teen soap obviosly. If there's a boundary to be pushed, they pretty much did. That James Marsters message was amazing. He's always so nice to his fans.
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
Leave it to Anya to say what needs to be said that nobody is brave enough to say. She may be lacking in social graces but she also possesses big balls. And I love how she’s proud of it instead of insecure about it. If there’s anyone that needed a fucking wake up call in this season it was definitely Willow. Well done, Anya! Really kinda love how she’s the one so far removed from reality that she’s able to give doses of it out. She’s like “Look honey, I may not understand human behaviour but I know for fact yours ain’t good.” 👍 She really went from “You wish it, I dish it.” To “You repress it, I express it.” Love that for her character!
@LadyGreensleeves33
@LadyGreensleeves33 Год назад
I will never be more entertained by a reveal than the 'hey, turns out I can hurt Buffy'/'Oh shit, Spike can hurt me' to 'We can have dangerously kinky sex now!' pipeline 😂
@bananas_brain
@bananas_brain Год назад
but like.. it's not kinky, it's abusive
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 Год назад
​@@bananas_brainno hun. For one, impact play is indeed a sexual kink that humans engage in. And for another, these aren't humans. They're superhuman. Using someone for casual sex isn't even abusive, except for the fact that Buffy is aware of Spikes feelings and that he specifically told her to stop using him because it hurts him and she trampled all over that and does it anyway. That then crosses over into abusive. And her repeated emotional and mental abuse, and later on some legit physical punching bag abuse.
@bananas_brain
@bananas_brain Год назад
@@spikesecho724 they are beating each other up because of their rage. I'm sorry, but how can you not see it as abusive? there is nothing about it that resembles just some kinky sex that some couples are practicing. There is just aggression and destruction on both sides. Superhumans they or not this show is about parallels and metaphors based on real life. Particularly spuffy is about toxic and abusive relationship, it was like that from the start and it culminates logically in the end of the season. So no, it's really not just kinky stuff, it never was
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 Год назад
@@bananas_brain sorry you're missing a lot in this story line 🤷🏼‍♀️ you've caught onto the abuse part and toxic part, but have missed all the complexities and nuances also entangled with it, including sex kink apparently. And the use of physical violence by superhumans in this show as a precursor for sexual activity is by no means new nor isolated to this couple, so I guess you've missed a lot. It's done with Bangel as well. You've seen Mr and Mrs Smith right? Physical violence in a fictional world with out-of-the-norm people is often used as foreplay. You're just preferring a full-stop literal reading of the story because an abusive relationship is such a real-world thing. But the writers are playing with the fiction of this world as well, including having two superhumans (particularly one not good at verbal communication and who always expresses herself with violence - Buffy) engaging in superhuman sex by f**king a house down. Indeed, tons of metaphor at play, but you're neglecting to also contextualize the physical violence that way as well. The show outright discussed Buffy and spikes sexual kinks in other episodes as well, not within a metaphor of abuse, but simply as sexual kink.
@RB-vo4gi
@RB-vo4gi Год назад
@@spikesecho724But it is abusive? On both sides? Like, Spike and Buffy physically beat each other up, verbally attack each other, and as the season continues Spike emotionally manipulates Buffy into feeling alone and miserable enough to continue to sleep with him (ex: “You don’t belong with them you belong with me in the shadows” or “You came back wrong”). You can like Spuffy, but don’t pretend like this relationship was healthy by any stretch of the imagination. There’s a reason why the writers took their relationship as dark as they did. There were people who romanticized it and couldn’t see it for what it was, so they kept pushing to try and get people to see it as toxic. Them sleeping together and knocking the house down wasn’t romantic or “kinky.” It was a metaphor for Buffy letting her life fall apart. It’s not healthy and you’re not supposed to root for it.
@donsample1002
@donsample1002 Год назад
Considering who they’re up against, I think a D&D manual is a good place to be looking.
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
They might find additional clues at Comicon
@roerd
@roerd Год назад
Regarding the question whether Buffy came back "less human": I would argue that it's probably only specifically in the respect the chip used to detect humans, and not in a other meaningful way. The chip probably detects any magically resurrected human as similar to a vampire or some other kind of undead, even though she's actually still a complete himan being with a soul and all.
@SashaRicky
@SashaRicky Год назад
Omg that James cameo is amazing!! 😂😂 Well done Maria. ❤️❤️
@alysharichards3757
@alysharichards3757 Год назад
Right?! Seriously 2002 me was screaming, crying, punching the air and sliding down the wall watching that 😂😭
@basharic3162
@basharic3162 Год назад
In my opinion the best thing about Amy not remembering her time as a rat is that they don't haves to deal with her remembering all the times Willow had sex with Oz or Tara with her in the room.
@insulaarachnid
@insulaarachnid Год назад
Alley being scandalized by a 25 year old TV show😂. Love the James Masters warning❤
@visarr
@visarr Год назад
Let's hope she doesn't watch any pre-code movies before 1935. Cover your eyes!
@lilykep
@lilykep Год назад
Alley having Dean Winchester trauma with the whole "is he gonna get accidentally thrown on something and die"
@alicequinn505
@alicequinn505 Год назад
Or Cordelia trauma!
@sint8880
@sint8880 Год назад
This episode really gave the definition too ‘Ends with a bang!’
@RB-vo4gi
@RB-vo4gi Год назад
I think Spike trying to go out and kill people literally any time he’s offered the remotest opportunity is very telling.
@stpetie7686
@stpetie7686 Год назад
Love season six! Alley, you'll have a hard time forgetting this season. And thank you. It's so much fun to see someone feel about the show the same way I've felt about it for 26 years.
@lynnevetter
@lynnevetter Год назад
OMG. JAMES!!!! That was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jmwild1
@jmwild1 Год назад
I believe somewhere (on RU-vid) you can find the original uncensored ending, which goes on longer without the dust in the air to obscure the "thrusting". They did have to tone it down a bit to still get a TV-14.
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
You mean the dailies?
@jmwild1
@jmwild1 Год назад
@@Girl4Music What I saw was in pretty good condition, not the final edit before turning over to the censors for review but pretty close. Seems like one or more people who worked on season 6 leaked a lot of footage, there are unofficial bloopers floating around too, quite a few of them.
@visarr
@visarr Год назад
Search "Original Smashed ending"
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
I remember that the version I saw live on TV went on a good bit longer. They really show how exactly the house got destroyed
@teradul2480
@teradul2480 Год назад
"The fuck" actually summerizes quite well what happened there at the end
@Junejane4
@Junejane4 Год назад
And I also have a question, when he says 'You're afraid I am gonna..' What? What is he talking about? I always wondered. And I like how he picked her up and she is wrapping her legs around him. This is really good. But that zipper sound you can hear from miles away 😄😄 they wanted to make that obvious so much.
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
They even added it to the closed caption text
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon Год назад
I can actually understand just a bit of what Willow is going through. I had a problem with procrastination, and it got bad enough to interfere with my marriage. The problem got worse after we separated. (And still hasn't gotten better, years later. Watching _Buffy_ reactions on RU-vid hasn't helped...) It's almost as if Willow is trying to prove to herself that using magic isn't really bad, which means that Tara left her "for no reason", rather than for good cause, which would mean that Willow would have to admit to herself that she's in the wrong. And she won't do that until she's hit rock bottom. (And in real life, some on a similar path won't stop even past rock bottom, until they're six feet under.)
@scoobygangster
@scoobygangster Год назад
OMG dying with the James video for you, Alley. Well-deserved. Honestly, loved your reaction to this historical BDSM-coded piece of TV.
@jspettifer
@jspettifer Год назад
Drew Goddard was going to be the showrunner for Daredevil but pulled out and was replaced by Steven DeKnight (also a Buffy writer). S2 was co-showrun by Doug Petrie - also a Buffy writer
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
Drew also wrote "Cloverfield"
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
I have almost never been disappointed by a show where a Buffy alum has a significant role in the writing. Jane Espenson made once upon a time, absolutely delightful when she was effectively the showrunner
@Silver-rx1mh
@Silver-rx1mh Год назад
And she rode him like a Pony....lol The last scene was originally longer and a tad more graphic but they cut it.
@spikejr3113jr
@spikejr3113jr Год назад
Spike and Buffy tore a hole house down now that’s passion.
@northbeach8336
@northbeach8336 Год назад
You have an idea of the pain either side of the turn of the century, when we had to wait a week (and sometimes several, or months between seasons) to get our fix of Buffy and Angel. Bee tee dub, the Marsters Cameo is amazing. Big thanks to James and the fan who set it up.
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
Tuesday night (AKA Buffy Night) was was a big deal in my social circle of fellow nerds. That’s why the line “Dawn’s in trouble… must be Tuesday” got the biggest laugh from everyone of probably any line in all the episodes we watched (aside from the musical & Hush, but that’s like cheating).
@AngelaOrtner
@AngelaOrtner Год назад
Maria is a legend for this
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 Год назад
"Ever since the Halloween episode Dawn looks so much older." Michelle Trachtenberg was 15 when they filmed these episodes. They grow like weeds at that age. My great niece is 15 right now. She's 5'8."
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
Literally why they didn’t do anything with The Anointed. Kid grew up too fast and wooopsie. Vampires don’t grow.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 Год назад
@@Girl4Music Very true. Which is why we're never going to get a BTVS sequel with the same cast. Except tor Charisma Carpenter....
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
@@Shadowman4710 woman really doesn’t age, innit? One wonders whether she’s a vampire
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
Michelle or your niece? My nephew's turned 13 and he stands 5'7", BTW.
@Shadowman4710
@Shadowman4710 Год назад
@@Madbandit77 I have no idea how tall Michelle Trachtenberg is these days but I do know she towered over the entire female cast in 2003. Alyson Hannigan once joked that Michelle had the biggest boobs in the entire cast. I assume she was including Nick Brendan in that :)
@alicequinn505
@alicequinn505 Год назад
Your side-eyes this reaction, I swear... they make my day. I feel bad for poor Amy. Even with the magick enabling going on, all those years as a rat must take their toll. Awesome cameo by James Marsters!
@mediablindspots
@mediablindspots 6 месяцев назад
Amy is a somewhat tragic figure, considering what her mother put her through, but she also makes her own decisions, and they are all horrible… so not that tragic at the end of the day.
@tehcoolemu
@tehcoolemu Год назад
"...the woman was too stunned to speak."
@steveowen3155
@steveowen3155 Год назад
Wow! Spike just warned you about the season! He's right too. Buckle up.
@slm_766
@slm_766 Год назад
I thought that the Willow and Buffy were both pushing boundaries, going over lines. I think that's the parallels they are making between them.
@basharic3162
@basharic3162 Год назад
Buffy's spirit is broken and Willow is the Scooby that represents her spirit. So they're both going downhill all gas no brakes.
@RB-vo4gi
@RB-vo4gi Год назад
It is, most definitely. This whole season really parallels Buffy’s mental health downward spiral with Willow’s addiction arc and how it negatively affects each of them.
@thalia9789
@thalia9789 11 месяцев назад
A wild James appears!!! Oh my god!!!!
@amandamichelle9426
@amandamichelle9426 Год назад
Omg! You got a message from SPIKE!!! Wth!?!?! LOL!! How cool of him to do that!!!! LOVE James Marsters!
@donsample1002
@donsample1002 Год назад
As my brother said about this episode: “Way hotter than anything they were showing on the Playboy Channel.”
@MrOneILoveALot
@MrOneILoveALot Год назад
If anybody is wondering, the movie Down and Tara saw in the "good god that's a lot of shake" scene was Hardball with Keanu Reeves.
@dplunk13
@dplunk13 Год назад
Omfg this the best reaction video ever! James f'n Marsters? I cannot...
@ohethel
@ohethel Год назад
i have a good feeling about this season. everyone's gonna be ok.
@jordanparker5949
@jordanparker5949 Год назад
While the sex scene was shocking, they had their clothes on and only facial expressions to express what they were doing.
@catrin3944
@catrin3944 Год назад
I was 13/14 when this aired and there were rumours it was going to get um spicy lol and my sister, who was 8/9, and myself had to beg our mother to continue letting us watch it. So that night we sat down and watched this episode like usual annum yeah, it was something 😂 She then proceeded to do what she did for the first season and a half of Angel; she’d watch them and record them (vhs) then go back and film the news over the more adult scenes lol and we’d watch it in the morning having breakfast lol
@chetstevensq
@chetstevensq Год назад
Like a lamb to the slaughter, Alley is going to explode when she sees where this season is going.
@blotcho84
@blotcho84 Год назад
What a saucy ending! Smashed indeed! Great reaction as always Alley!
@lexiestar9
@lexiestar9 Год назад
I feel like this episode when Amy comes back really starts Willow down a dark train and the drama with Spike and Buffy when he realizes the clip might be malfunctioning to the point where he can’t be hurt by the chip from Buffy anymore. Also they literally brought the house down with that make out scene🤯😁 Can’t wait for the next episode❤️🩵
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
“Make out scene” Dude they were doing way more than just making out.
@TheEndKing
@TheEndKing Год назад
@@Girl4Music Zzzzzip!
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
@@TheEndKing fly down, go to town
@MikeBarratt-lk3gt
@MikeBarratt-lk3gt Год назад
​@@Girl4Musicdamm girl 😊
@youtert
@youtert Год назад
7.9 rating on IMDB, and the Richter scale
@Thebuffshaman
@Thebuffshaman Год назад
okg then the thing at the end, WOW one of the actors is a fan of you Alley. As appropriate for the era of the show's first season, You go girl.
@9ansean
@9ansean Год назад
Oh BOY! Here early for a change. This should be something big! Shipping hopes are about to go through the roof (or possibly the floor)!
@x-man9473
@x-man9473 Год назад
I was waiting for you to see this one Alley. The make out scene with Buffy and Spike is still hot all of these years later. ❤
@theresashores2512
@theresashores2512 Год назад
They were able to show that scene because Buffy and Angel had switched networks after WB shut down and was replaced by CW. But UPN (Paramount) outbid other networks and won the show. So they went darker and mature.
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
Actually, the CW is the WB and UPN combined.
@lorynu
@lorynu Год назад
Thr scream I scrumpt when this aired watching at home then calling my best friend RIGHT after to scream some more
@alicequinn505
@alicequinn505 Год назад
11:08 I love that you choose that moment to edit in, really
@mparantha
@mparantha Год назад
yep that was a pretty graphic sex scene. This season deals with much more adult themes than any of the others, which makes sense because the characters are all at this point young adults.
@visarr
@visarr Год назад
There's a more graphic ending that was cut. It's posted on YT - search Original Smashed ending.
@chibipoe
@chibipoe 8 месяцев назад
There is actually more to that sequence after they crash through the floor, in extra footage, if you search youtube for it. No nudity or anything but explicitly clear what was happening(if anyone had doubts).
@mike777ok
@mike777ok Год назад
Great reaction. Like you said, there was so much happening in this episode. I loved that Amy was finally turned back into a human and I really loved the fact that they brought back the some actor to play the part. As for the scene near the end with Buffy and Spike, I saw this show when it first aired and back then I was not sure that I saw what I thought I saw. Years later when I started watching some reactions I realized that I did see what I thought I saw. I am glad you had the message from James Masters because they did not allow things like that on free network TV and I could not understand how that got by.
@FrancescoPanti
@FrancescoPanti Год назад
One of the best episodes ever
@antonbrakhage490
@antonbrakhage490 Год назад
Funny thing here, when Andrew says he's seen every episode of Doctor Who, that's literally impossible, because there are a bunch of old episodes which have no known surviving copies... unless they went back in time or made a deal with a demon or something for missing Doctor Who episodes, which is exactly the sort of thing I can see them doing.
@cerrobueno
@cerrobueno Год назад
Looking forward to the next quote of the day being "zipper unzipping".
@BALDAR222
@BALDAR222 Год назад
Bringing down the House! Now that's foreplay.
@bruceboa6384
@bruceboa6384 Год назад
That's so cool! James Marsters!
@MagnetMagicGirl
@MagnetMagicGirl Год назад
That video at the end...OMG!!!
@MartinGonzalez-ke9uy
@MartinGonzalez-ke9uy Год назад
Great reaction! was waiting for your reaction to this ep ... Wow you wonderin about "how last scene was allowed on TV" and you got answered by James Masters, pretty cool!!! Well lookin forward for more of your reactions
@maximedesrochers6485
@maximedesrochers6485 Год назад
dont forget who spike really his, he was put on a leash for the past 2 seasons. but of tht leash he would kill people without a second thought. he is s demon first.
@luckyrobinshomestead
@luckyrobinshomestead Год назад
I can't remember if this one and the next one aired as a part one and a part two or not. The certainly have that feel, even in their titles.
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
"Smashed" and "Wrecked" are an unofficial 2-part episode, yet it's probably my favorite.
@joefriedman9843
@joefriedman9843 22 дня назад
Not only is the sex scene insane but the episode is fucking called Smashed haha unbelievable
@HopelessHermit
@HopelessHermit Год назад
The very end was like when spike tried to stake himself. .except instead of breaking Xander's furniture he almost snapped his other "chip" to quote Jonathan in two
@CloudslnMyCoffee
@CloudslnMyCoffee Год назад
You have such an amazing communtiy! I am so happy for your cameo for you!
@haydn60
@haydn60 Год назад
TMI, Alley. Go to your room!
@xoxoxANGExoxox
@xoxoxANGExoxox Год назад
Spike can't hurt people because of the chip, but he has feelings for Buffy and when he fights with her he doesn't intend harm so maybe that's why it works that way..
@abbesatty9498
@abbesatty9498 Год назад
That is a very interesting thought.
@sirmoonslosthismind
@sirmoonslosthismind Год назад
there was actually an fcc investigation. i'll post the link in a separate comment, in case youtube eats it. if you don't see it, don't blame me.
@lurker1316
@lurker1316 Год назад
14:44 - That's the kind of reaction I'm here for.
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
They’ll be a similar one later down the line just not in the same context.
@seanduncan3624
@seanduncan3624 Год назад
I really hated when the witches in this show stopped doing spells and incantations and just started shooting colourful sparks from their fingers like Sabrina the teenage witch. It was too cheesy.
@garethhackney4814
@garethhackney4814 Год назад
I like supernatural but the escalation spoiled it for me before the end. Buffyverse though as crazy as it is it all feels earned and about offering different challenges not just pure escalation. We need a return to these standards of shows.
@republicoftexas3261
@republicoftexas3261 Год назад
Well said. Supernatural really lost it later on.
@trilumn8345
@trilumn8345 Год назад
Purely speculation on my part, but the Slayer has always been a little more than human. Or a little less depending on your POV. She has supernatural strength, an enhanced healing factor, and occasionally prophetic dreams. My speculation is that her body was severely decomposed, but the magic restored it using her slayer powers to help, and that made the parts it restored a little less human. So, overall, she's less human than she was before. It makes sense to me.
@willow8186
@willow8186 11 месяцев назад
This episode back to back with the next one are some of my favourite ones. Willow was always my favourite from I was 13 (in my later 30s now) and even though she’s devolving this season I always loved the character arch so much ❤
@9ansean
@9ansean Год назад
3:40-44 It might have. If someone hadn't found out a typical rat lifespan.
@zemoxian
@zemoxian Год назад
Between Where the Wild Things Are and Smashed, it seems like no limits to how far they could go. Which makes it seem even wilder that Joyce has to die for an on screen Tillow kiss. At least UPN allowed a better representation of Willow and Tara’s relationship…while it lasted.
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
I thought the representation was just fine even before Season 6 for Tillow.
@zemoxian
@zemoxian Год назад
@@Girl4Music The representation at the time was pretty good. It was a wonderful relationship. But the behind the scenes issues and restrictions were very strange to me. The network liked the idea of having a lesbian couple on the show but they were trying to avoid any kind of backlash and put severe restrictions on how much they could show or imply on screen. It was a revolutionary portrayal then. I had grown up seeing gay male characters and Ellen was out by then. I was clueless to all that, so to me it was totally bizarre that Buffy and Reilly could fuel paranormal activities with round the clock sex while Willow and Tara couldn’t even have an on screen kiss. I didn’t realize that lesbian representation lagged so far behind gay representation or whatever other factors were involved in the decision making. I didn’t know until comments in reactions years later how new and unique their on screen relationship was at the time. I guess now I’m frustrated with the historical limitations as well as my own cluelessness at the time.
@visarr
@visarr Год назад
@@zemoxianYou were clueless because you didn't know the political and financial repercussions back then? Ellen D came out and her show (a sitcom) immediately suffered in the ratings. It was a big to-do. Without a doubt that was fresh in the minds of everyone associated with TV in the late 90s. It would have been bold for Buffy to take that step; however, we may have never had an S6 or S7 if they had. The term "Pyrrhic victory" might apply: a success that brings such significant harm to the victor that it differs little from defeat.
@revjim123
@revjim123 Год назад
Buffy got possessed by Dolemite and turned into the Human Tornado. If you don’t know what that is, look it up, it’s hilarious
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Год назад
In the next episode, you will get all the drama you can handle. Tara is alone with Dawn. Meanwhile, Willow is partying it out with Amy and Buffy is boning Spike. If Tara hadn't stayed, Dawn would have been alone all that time.
@PatiAnn
@PatiAnn Год назад
The look on your face 😂😂😂😂
@Jcewazhere
@Jcewazhere Год назад
That was a fight scene, clearly...
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
Not that I’m condoning Spike’s behaviour towards Buffy in this episode. I’m definitely not. What he is doing and saying to her is abuse. But I can see it from his perspective also. Buffy one moment is calling him an evil disgusting thing, and then the next she asks for his help and trusts him to protect her family. Spike’s receiving mixed signals from Buffy all the time that he doesn’t know which way to go with her, how to behave towards her. He doesn’t know whether to be supportive and constructive or abusive and destructive. Being a soulless vampire and all - he can’t truly differentiate between what’s right and what’s wrong. However, his actions and choices are entirely his responsibility and he shouldn’t be absolved from punishment just because of it. He should take accountability for the relationship between them just as much as she should. Of course - then there’s Buffy - who doesn’t even know what kind of relationship they have other than the one they’re supposed to have. That is most natural to have. And in that sense, the abuse between them in this episode is actually entirely appropriate. The sex - not so much. But it has to be acknowledged that Buffy initiated it. She’s the one that chose to kiss him, unzip his fly and go to town. Her feelings for him are so confused.
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 Год назад
How does Buffy being abusive to Spike and initiating all verbal and physical abuse - that Spike merely returns - translate into people claiming Spikes behavior is bad and abusive? Buffy the abuser here.
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
@@spikesecho724 lots of people put it all on him because he is the “soulless” one.
@sirmoonslosthismind
@sirmoonslosthismind Год назад
@@Girl4Music but that's entirely backwards. as the "soulless" one, he's a moral invalid. it's not in his power to do better, and therefore not his fault. it's buffy's. and buffy on some level understands that. she doesn't kill vampires because they bear any blame for what they are, but only because they threaten the living. spike doesn't and thus he gets to live, irritating as he is.
@Girl4Music
@Girl4Music Год назад
@@sirmoonslosthismind yes, I understand this but what I’m saying is that the fandom treat him like somebody who is in control of what he is doing. Thus, berate him for it.
@tommd51
@tommd51 Год назад
The spike and buffy "relationship" is one of the things that makes season 6 great, but it hurts me to watch it. Also hurts me to see reactors get excited for it because they like the characters so much. I know its her first watch through and she doesnt know whats to come, so no judgement. It just shocks me sometimes when reactors watch this and don't see what is completely happening because they are blind to their excitement and shock of these two characters doing this.
@samanthas8340
@samanthas8340 Год назад
(Spoile-ish) Yes, I'm trying not to be completely annoyed. And it's not even about what happens later, but if they were actually paying attention to the characters , Spike is literally willing to eat people this episode and very recent episodes. Buffy is straight up calling him a monster, evil thing, and had been pushing him away over and over again, and yet no one sees a problem with this? And you can argue whether or not you agree with Buffy, but it's still important to remember that it is still her perspective.
@angelbedolla347
@angelbedolla347 Год назад
@@samanthas8340how many times has Buffy been relying and asking for help of that evil vampire though? Just because he’s restrained and isn’t as sadistic as Angelus every reactor and commentator forgets what he is. How are people shock at what happens later is the real question. And even worse thing this is Spike not the demon 😂
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 Год назад
She's finished the series already, fyi
@samanthas8340
@samanthas8340 Год назад
@@spikesecho724 the whole series? Not just the season?
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 Год назад
@@samanthas8340 Yeah she's done with the series and is in the middle of Angel season 5. She also just finished Firefly/Serenity
@MrLorenzovanmatterho
@MrLorenzovanmatterho Год назад
Anyone else think the girl who Amy picks for Willow is the spitting image of Cordelia?
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 Год назад
Well not actually "television." It was UPN. [edit to add] I typed that before the James Marsters cameo.
@12chapin
@12chapin Год назад
The dream becomes reality
@joeslater2390
@joeslater2390 Год назад
You can get a lot by the standards and practices department, especially if it doesn't exist yet
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 Год назад
They did exist for all the broadcast TV networks since the 1950s.
@riel4553
@riel4553 Год назад
I remember that Married... with Children took advantage of a similar situation with their network. 'Well there are standards for TV but censors haven't said anything to us so far so let's get wild until they do'.
@joeslater2390
@joeslater2390 Год назад
@@riel4553 totally forgot about that
@riel4553
@riel4553 Год назад
@@joeslater2390 Slightly off topic, but David Boreanaz was in that show for a few secs as one of Kelly's boyfriends
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Год назад
LOL You saying you need Bike to be a thing, right before this episode.
@anelarsen5906
@anelarsen5906 Год назад
-Lotta Bike, Marsters sends regards, - Ally; “So Amy is back”……
@dbzfreak93
@dbzfreak93 Год назад
Love your reactions and love your love for spike. He’s one of my favorite characters. However, one thing you need to remember is that spike is still soulless. The only thing that keeps him contained is the chip. As seen in this episode as soon as he thought the chip stopped working he went straight back for the kill with no hesitation. In my opinion his “love” for Buffy is twisted more into obsession from his demon. He lacks a moral compass because he doesn’t have a soul.
@SmallFaerie
@SmallFaerie Год назад
I would say, though, that part of the reason the first thing he does is to try to eat a human is because of Buffy calling him an evil soulless thing again. That’s why he’s sort of pep talking himself into trying to bite the woman he went after. But in the end it doesn’t really make a difference because what it shows is that Spike doesn’t have his own conscience - he has his love for Buffy and his desire to do what will make her approve of him. When he feels hopeless about making that happen, he reverts to what he himself wants. So he is conflicted about killing a human for a moment, but not because he feels for the victim, and that’s why Buffy can’t fully trust him in the end.
@dbzfreak93
@dbzfreak93 Год назад
@@SmallFaerieoh yeah. I can agree with that. He can try to be good for buffy, but the moment things don’t go his way with her he reverts back to doing things for himself. I think he lacks the ability to really understand the importance of the good or bad decisions he makes because he doesn’t have a mortal compass due to the lack of a soul. But that’s just my take on things. I’m rarely right about anything so I wouldn’t be surprised if I read it wrong. 😂
@spikesecho724
@spikesecho724 Год назад
Yeah people always try to cite Spikes choice to try to eat a human as showing us that he's soulless and evil, and it's like....um, did you not just watch the scene immediately before that precipitated his actions where Buffy psychologically abuses him/his identity by reducing him to a non-person, throwing nasty comments at him like he's a thing and a monster, after several eps of her going to him for support and treating him like a person? She's fueling his entire identity crisis and has begun her verbal abuse.
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind Год назад
He's not going for the kill because he has no morals. He's in desperate need of finding his identity, his self, and without a soul, he has no issue with being the "murderous vampire" if that gives him a place in the world. Not having a soul doesn't mean not knowing good and evil; it just means you have nothing inside of you that complains about doing evil deeds. So you will do them on a whim whenever it's convenient or fun. It's like loudly passing wind when you're alone. There's nothing forcing you to do so, but also nothing that'd hold you back.
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan Год назад
Buffy and Spike smashed each other as they did the building around them. Metaphorical while being a not so veiled metaphor. "They allowed this on television." UPN had a much different standards and practices department than The WB (as stated by crewmembers). Had BtVS still been on The WB this would've been different in how they were allowed to film it.
@hardybryan
@hardybryan Год назад
I don't love Bike/Spuffy/whatever you want to call them, but I do admit it's the hottest relationship she's been in.
@JPT54
@JPT54 Год назад
Couldn’t wait until you saw that one!
@slm_766
@slm_766 Год назад
I saw this first-run, and I immediately wondered how many people spent the next week rewinding and rewatching that scene (when Buffy and Spike destroyed the house).🤣
@alysharichards3757
@alysharichards3757 Год назад
🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️ me, me. Preteen me. Too many times to count.
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