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Building a Freestyle Skateboarding Setup 

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Phew. This one took some time to put together.
A few folks had asked me to walk through building a freestyle setup. Well, the release of a new single kick from Moonshine skateboards gave me the perfect excuse to whack a camera on a tripod and talk through the various components that go into a freestyle setup - and show the right way to put it all together.
So, yes. This is a very long video by the standards of this channel. Apologies for that. Hopefully you think it's worth it and find it interesting. If all you want to do is see some skating, I totally understand - head to 17:42 to watch me skate a single kick for the first time in a long while. (Spoiler alert: I laugh a lot and have a lot of fun. This deck is NICE.)
(I will also apologise for the graininess of some of this footage. It turns out my trusty old Fuji X-T1 doesn't much like shooting video at 3200ISO in dark old English cottages. WHO KNEW?)
If you're looking for a setup just like this one, head over to www.offsetskat... - there's a "freestyle setup builder" which will let you pick out various components, safe in the knowledge they'll all go together. You don't have to worry about skid plate shapes or mixing and matching truck and deck sizes. It'll just work.
The skid plate installation video I reference while I'm building the board can be found here: • How to install (and wh...
The music in the background of the setup sections is by glaciære, and is a couple of different tracks from the album "hammock": steviasphere.b...
The music in the skate section is a track called L A T E N C Y by Mystery Mammal: www.freemusica...
Both tracks are used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. If you like the bleepy bloopy goodness, go check out the full albums linked above, because they're very good. And yes, I've been listening to too much Vaporwave since the summer disappeared. I will apologise to no one for this.
Anyway. Like, share, subscribe, do whatever you please. If there's any trick in particular you'd like a tip for, drop a comment below and we'll see what we can do. And if you appreciate these videos, please buy us a coffee at www.buymeacoff... to help keep this project going!
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@tkugsify
@tkugsify 5 месяцев назад
"It has been a long time since I've ridden something this firm and this hard" 😂
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 5 месяцев назад
I can't believe it's taken this long for someone to comment on that!
@OldManMilner
@OldManMilner 4 года назад
This video makes me want to put together a new complete!
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Mandatory promotional link: offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/freestyle-setup-builder/ It's honestly been so hard to not set up totally new boards every week since I started Offset up. It's all so tempting!
@OldManMilner
@OldManMilner 3 года назад
@@mallgrabnation3049 I've never put together a freestyle, but I'd be down to give it a try some day. They look a little short for my build though (I'm 6'1" with long legs). Currently I have a Popsicle and an 80s cruiser, but honestly I'm looking for something shaped like a Popsicle but loooong, like 36" or so, with at least one kick so I can pop up curbs.
@CodyHerr
@CodyHerr 4 года назад
This is a watershed video in FS. You used the Kill Your Idols deck to kill everyone's preconceived notions. Well done Tony!
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
I'm not sure what'll surprise people more: late flips on a flat single kick or me doing ollie tricks in general!
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips lol People: don’t you need a kick tail and nose to do tricks Me: nope flat nose u can do the same stuff.well done mate.
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips probably all of that lol
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips i learned my first kickflip on a old school freestyle deck (which was a fairly used hand me down from my moms boyfriend (his two sons are street skaters (i do freestyle)
@Baneumann66
@Baneumann66 3 года назад
Have a single kick coming. Excited to try it! Thanks Tony
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
Stoked to hear it, mate. Is this the first single kick you've ever skated?
@Baneumann66
@Baneumann66 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips it is! Looking forward to learning classic freestyle on a setup similar to the ones these tricks were invented on.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
@@Baneumann66 It's amazing how much stuff it "unlocks". Some things just seem to make a lot more sense on a flat nose.
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@Baneumann66 same here double kicks were a bit hard for me I could only do ollies and shovets
@samdaly1955
@samdaly1955 4 года назад
Picked one up a few weeks back, absolute beauty to ride. Cheers Tony!
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Yeah, I absolutely love this thing. I'm glad you're enjoying it!
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips when i saw your video gonna try it out sometime
@markusb.8163
@markusb.8163 4 года назад
Great video, love the Dan Garb footage. Really looking forward to spring (or a sunny autumn day).
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
I feel like Dan Garb really makes the whole video that bit more special.
@stakesskates9429
@stakesskates9429 4 года назад
Your so lucky to have that spot man bloody English weather 🌧️😂 that set up looks good 👌🤙
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
There's three spots with varying levels of rain protection in this town. This one is the first to get washed out, so it's not necessarily always skateable. I'm always happy when it is, though!
@stakesskates9429
@stakesskates9429 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips there's only one under cover place where I can skate, where I live to an I can only use it on Sunday 😒because it's a back of warehouse and doing tricks in front room is to noisy and its not really the same as rolling 🤔
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
@@stakesskates9429 yeah, this spot is at a school, so I can only really go there on a Sunday, too. I used to have it all weekend, but a dance school started using the hall next to it on a Saturday, and things got weird fast!
@stakesskates9429
@stakesskates9429 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips 🙈 I know what you mean mate lol that's sweet undercover an it's flat 👌
@xmqqv9209
@xmqqv9209 4 года назад
What a great video Tony. That skate session was bloody good. Since i ordered the board from offset already im even more hyped now to skate it soon! Always had trouble with the small noses of singlekicks because my feet are quite big, but I feel ill have a much better time on this one. Cheers mate, greetings from Germany!
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Yeah, I absolutely hated the small nose on the Mullen. It's a total waste of time. This thing is a bloody gamechanger - I love it.
@Fozzzmk1
@Fozzzmk1 4 года назад
19:25 a wild street Gale appears
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
"Street Gale"? There's no such thing.
@lidettemicciche6418
@lidettemicciche6418 4 года назад
Would be fun to try something this tricky, nice look bro, congrats 😎
@nate2skate265
@nate2skate265 3 года назад
I just grabbed this deck, the Tensor 4.25's, Waltz donut 54mm's. This will be my second freestyle complete. I have a Mode double kick complete and I'm looking forward to try a single kick. Cheers, your vids are teaching me alot
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
That's great to hear. I hope you'll like the KYI - it's a fantastic little deck. I realised last week that it's actually outsold every other deck that I sell (both street and freestyle) in 2020. Hell, I almost sold more KYIs than all the street decks put together! Also, you'll have to let me know how you get on with the Tensors and those new Waltz wheels - I've not had chance to try either. I wasn't too impressed with the previous Waltz wheels but the shape on the new ones looks good.
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 Год назад
@@FreestyleTricktips waltz and offset/moonshine are definitely something I’m wanting to check out their freestyle decks also I’m curious is the tracker flipside good for freestyle tricks from Olies to impossibles rail tricks ect?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips Год назад
@@gamesincharacter5106 the Flipside is famously one of the smallest freestyle decks ever made (barring the really early stuff from the 60s and early 70s before freestyle became codified, anyway); it's a great board, but I wouldn't want to be using it for any ollie tricks. Shuvits and fast footwork would be the order of the day on one of those.
@scu-dub
@scu-dub 3 года назад
Insane!!!! Mike osterman watch out!!!!! The sunlight shots were artistic and looked sick....you killed it man love freestyle its the foundation for sure🤙🛹
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
Thanks, man. I'm glad you liked the vid. Do you skate freestyle yourself?
@scu-dub
@scu-dub 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips I try lol I'm 43 and am getting back into it I know I'm about 33 years late lol you kill it man very fluid the tish you do is INSANE! YOU ROCK BRO SERIOUSLY!!!!🤙🛹🤘
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
@@scu-dub No such thing as being late, man. That's one of the best things about freestyle - I can go to sessions and there'll be 8 year old kids, 25 year old rippers, and 55 year old masters all in the same session, all having a good time. There's not many "sports" with that sort of arrangement.
@byron_carmona
@byron_carmona 4 года назад
I am always drawn into single kicks... never had one, never skated one but there is something about them that makes me want to try one out. Great video btw Tony, it would be great to see more non-skating videos touching on setups, tips and deck types/purposes... I am still such a noob 😅
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
I think I'm going to do a few more like this as we roll into winter fully. It's getting harder and harder to get enough daylight to do trick tip videos. I think next up I'm going to talk a bit about all the different truck options available now; there's a lot more to choose from than just Indy and Tracker.
@Rumi_Rune
@Rumi_Rune 4 года назад
That Rodney Mullen board tho
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Genuinely the worst freestyle board you can buy right now. And that's saying something considering some of the other options out there!
@MichaelErskine
@MichaelErskine 4 года назад
Spacers for Rollerbones can be made from the middle of knackered bearings
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
So I hear! That's still more effort than these wheels are worth, though...
@gonzo13ist
@gonzo13ist 4 года назад
Seems like there is a single kick war going on right now. Either the moonshine deck, the Powell deck, and Waltz just put out a single kick whale tail.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Well, Moonshine have two decks - this and the Garb. I've not seen the new Waltz in person yet, but considering how bad Mike's single kicks on Mode were (honestly, they were *terrible* - some of the worst shaped decks I've ever ridden), I'm not holding out much hope. But it's a cool situation to be in considering ten years ago everyone was basically writing off the single kick. Flat noses are great - they open up so many options.
@ettnollbajen9945
@ettnollbajen9945 8 месяцев назад
Growing up (started skating in the 80s) we never had much love for freestyle skaters, but now seeing it and understanding it, and most of all Rodney Mullens impact on skateboarding in general, i have massive respept and love for them/you. Keep popping away mate
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 8 месяцев назад
To be fair, 80s freestyle could be *incredibly* cheesy. As much as I love hanging out with folks like Shane Rouse, I have to constantly rib him about the ridiculous short shorts he was wearing back then. And let's not even get started on the endless pogos...
@ettnollbajen9945
@ettnollbajen9945 8 месяцев назад
@@FreestyleTricktips ha ha ha, yeah there was a lot of pogoing back then mate
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 8 месяцев назад
@@ettnollbajen9945 It was the best of times. It was the worst of times. But mostly the worst of times.
@ettnollbajen9945
@ettnollbajen9945 8 месяцев назад
@@FreestyleTricktips kinda unfair how skaters have it nowadays Vs when I started in the 80s shitty ramps, now there's skateparks everywhere etc. But nice that it has developed that way
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 8 месяцев назад
@@ettnollbajen9945 to be honest, modern skateparks here in the UK might well be worse than a lot of the janky 80s nonsense. At least the 80s ramp era forced you to skate tough stuff; a lot of parks here are undersized and crowded as they're designed for children first and foremost, and they're usually nothing more than a few small stair sets and ledges with little variety. As such, we're raising a generation of street skaters who largely cannot hold a candle to international skaters. Going to Japan for the first time, for instance, was eye-opening. They're a much more crowded country than the UK, but they allot a considerably larger amount of space to skateparks, space obstacles out more, and everything is GIANT by UK standards - quarters, banks, ledges, half pipes, you name it. That's one of many reasons why Japanese skaters are so goddamned good... while British ones are generally quite underwhelming in comparison.
@GoldFishEatSouls
@GoldFishEatSouls 4 года назад
I got one of these last week made the mistake of not getting skids hahahahah but still having tons of fun learning and using you're trick tips.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Yeah, without skids you'll destroy boards pretty quickly! Glad to hear you're enjoying it, though.
@jonathanximenes1979
@jonathanximenes1979 3 года назад
In Brazil the bad thing is that there is only one freestyle skateboard shop on Per Canguru's website
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
That's the only one now? Isn't Tai Tai still doing Sugar Free? I'd offer to ship stuff from Offset Skate Supply here in the UK but I know just how expensive and difficult it is to get stuff into Brazil. You really have my sympathy, man.
@gonzo13ist
@gonzo13ist 4 года назад
I just bought the Dan Garb deck. But it seems I prefer double kick a bit more. Tony your board would be perfect if it was like 7.5 wide and had a 13.5 wheelbase but you love small boards so it will never happen. Oh a bit longer as well.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
A few folks have asked for a longer Gale board. That kinda misses the point. A lot of the tricks it's designed for need a foot at each end of the board - if it was any longer, you'd be basically doing the splits all the time, and that's never a good look.
@glennburling2713
@glennburling2713 4 года назад
Very nice indeed just brought one of your freestyle boards looking like I will be getting them Paris trucks to. In fact I will be getting 90% of my setup from you👍
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Only 90%?! I am HURT. But no, seriously, I'm glad I can help. The Paris trucks are a great shout, so I hope you enjoy the board!
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
The Closet griptape you can get to 4D griptape in America is black diamond griptape (it’s strong and doesn’t peel off like mob) even if it does it’s pretty minor.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
Isn't that related to Shorty's? I seem to remember seeing that around over here at the end of the 90s.
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
yeah black diamond came out during 2007 since the brand has been around for 15+ years. (2007) shory’s came out probably in 2002. So your probably right. Great video and awesome skateboarding
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips also can you do an impossible on that(I can’t seem to do it on mellow twin tail freestyle decks)
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
@@gamesincharacter5106 on the KYI? Yeah, I used to do impossibles on it all the time - the steep(er) and square tail really helps. I'm a bit out of practice now, though. My friend Aaron does them off the nose, though. He's a bloody weirdo.
@gamesincharacter5106
@gamesincharacter5106 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips lol whatever works for ya. (Everyone skates different after all)
@jaciobe
@jaciobe 4 года назад
Great vid! I'm loving my flat nose. I need to skate more though and putting grip on the tail.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Flat is life. This thing is so much fun.
@Kekese
@Kekese 3 года назад
Are they Moonshine skids more durable that the Decomposed Sk8 skids?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
Honestly, I can't say for sure. It's been a long time since I've used either, and haven't done any side-by-side tests. I know a bunch of people in the US really recommend the Moonshine skids, though.
@Jakethejakee
@Jakethejakee 3 года назад
How is it doing rollos (toe side rail -> heel side rail) on a boad like this? Do you have to use the tail? or can you easily do it with the flick on the nose?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
Rail to rails (PLEASE don't call them rollos, for god's sake) are generally done on the nose on single kicks. The square ends of traditional freestyle decks "bounce" as you flick it from rail to rail instead of transitioning smoothly. A friend of mine used to do rail-to-rails the wrong way on a deck like this - he'd push it towards the wheels instead of towards the deck/the griptape. That way it doesn't matter which way round the deck is, or which end you're doing it on - it will ALWAYS bounce from one side to the other instead of rolling through the curve of the nose. I thought it was weird, but now I think about it, I can see the logic.
@tylerconley7739
@tylerconley7739 4 года назад
I want that graphic on a street board too
@stewmartin5500
@stewmartin5500 4 года назад
I want a freestyle board 😭 Awesome videos
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
We'll have some more in stock at www.offsetskatesupply.co.uk soon. It's been an absolute nightmare trying to get everything back in stock with the lockdowns and restrictions, but I'm hoping the new decks will arrive next week.
@calebshaffer2087
@calebshaffer2087 4 года назад
Do you have any recommendations for people who maybe want a huge single kick? I'm riding an 8.25" singlekick that I made on Open Source Skateboards and I just can't afford to do that every time.
@xmqqv9209
@xmqqv9209 4 года назад
Never Enough Streetstore has a new Mike Ostermann Single Kick Deck, its 8.125" wide, maybe thats something for you. However, the shop is over here in Germany so this may take some time to arrive at your place, depending on where you live
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
"Huge" single kicks rarely work out well. There was a move towards those at the start of the 90s and we all went back to the 7.25"-7.6" size for a reason! Give the Dan Garb a try. 7.6" by 28.875" is a good sweet spot - works well for ollie tricks without being unstable in rail or too long for footwork.
@calebshaffer2087
@calebshaffer2087 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips I suppose that's fair. I'll have to try a smaller board, then.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Yeah, give it a real shot. It might seem like a shock to the system at first, but it's worth it. I jumped from 7.75" x 31" to 7.25" x 28.5" in 2004 and I couldn't go back to those oversized and steep street boards now.
@calebshaffer2087
@calebshaffer2087 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips Ok sounds fair. A skateshop nearby actually has your board, so I may just pick that up pretty soon.
@christinemurray1444
@christinemurray1444 2 года назад
My lad is 6ft2, rides 8.25 and 8.5 street boards. What would be a good size for a freestyle deck for him? I'm looking around and relatively tall guys are riding 7.5 and 7.8 (IIRC) freestyle decks. I can't find Christian Heise's height but he looks big online.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
You're kinda approaching this the wrong way round - which is understandable, as that's the (somewhat overly simplistic) way that street skating culture has got people thinking about decks. In freestyle, the length is FAR more important than the width. There's a sweet spot where you can reach both ends of the board without stretching, but you can still do footwork without feeling cramped, so you've got to get that dialled in first. Width comes later - whether you go for 7.3", 7.6", 8" etc. should only really be determined by what tricks you like to do (wider is better for ollies and shuvits, narrower is better for flips and rail tricks). For a while, I was thinking of suggesting choosing decks with a length-to-height ratio. In other words, I'm 5ft 10", and my pro model is 28" long, so I figured dividing height by 2.5 should get you in the right ballpark, length-wise. Problem with that is it's not an exact science. Different body proportions (mostly leg length and hip width) will alter your stance considerably. So now I've got a test that I've been suggesting to customers to help them figure out their ideal wheelbase - not overall length! - that seems to do the job. I'm planning on doing a video about it soon, once it's less freezing cold and the light's a bit better. In the meantime, the general gist of it is figuring out the gap between your feet when you're in a relaxed, natural stance, and picking a deck with that measurement as a wheelbase. The key is making sure you measure between the arches of the feet - not the toes or heels, to eliminate the effects of any pigeon-toeing or duck-footing - and repeating it often enough to get a decent average. Sorry that was such a long explanation! I wish things were as simple as "just give him a 7.6", but I'd really be doing him a disservice by doing that.
@christinemurray1444
@christinemurray1444 2 года назад
@Freestyle Tricktips thanks for your thorough explanation. I'm thinking around 7.5in cannot be wrong by much, and since it's a first freestyle board and a gift I guess he can figure it out later. I've watched a few of your videos and read your quora post on this topic. I'm confident now that 7.4~7.6 X 28~31 won't be impossibly small and I think I won't buy something that's at the very extreme of Freestyle canon (7.8+ or 7.2-). I knew my question was simplistic but I really don't know much better and also I didn't want to waste your time. On a more superficial note, your moonshine boards are perhaps the most beautiful freestyle boards out there IMO. Moonshine generally look good whereas Waltz, Mode, Never Enough, etc seem to be in a stiff competition to make the most dated aesthetics.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
​@@christinemurray1444 Honestly, 7.25" or 7.3" is probably the closest thing to being a "standard" in freestyle - that's where most of your options are in terms of truck choice and deck shapes. 7.5"/7.6" is the next step up, and you get a little bit of choice there, but you're usually locked into using Ace 11 trucks for those, as there's not a lot of other options at that size - just budget brands. Outside of that you're dropping to 7.0" and Ace 00, or jumping up to 7.9" and 129mm trucks. Both of those are really niche within freestyle. Anyway, if you're thinking about a 7.6" for him, Felix Jonsson's deck wouldn't be a bad choice. Felix himself is about the same height as your son (if memory serves correctly), and the 29.5" length of that should be pretty manageable. The fact it's bidirectional is also a huge plus for the beginner. Also, it has the best graphics of any freestyle deck available now, as far as I'm concerned - so that's a plus. I really love how that one turned out. I'm obviously a bit biased, but like you, I love the stuff Moonshine's artists have done for us - but that Felix one? Oooof. It's just so good.
@mikarrrrrrgh1969
@mikarrrrrrgh1969 3 года назад
Do you think That the Rollerbones in softer could be better?because i want a 80s freestyle wheel,they are so hard to find,and they are easy to get.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
They would be better if they were softer, but still not *good* - there's too little axle coverage, too little space between the bearings, and you need far too many washers behind the wheel to push them far enough away from the hangar. If you want an 80s style wheel, I'd have a look at Mode's freestyle wheels. They're very, very similar to the classic OJII design from that era.
@mikarrrrrrgh1969
@mikarrrrrrgh1969 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips OK😁thanks a lot!!
@cantfigureitout4975
@cantfigureitout4975 3 года назад
Ive been trying to find freestyle wheels I can get shipped to Canada without paying double the price in shipping. All I have found is some rollerbones from a rollerskate company. They come in sets of 8 and before I spend the money on 8 wheels I want to know if they are worth the money. You mentioned in the video that you really didn't like them but for someone who has always used harder wheels do you think they will be a good wheel and last a long time?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
It's not just the hardness, it's the overall shape. They're very skinny, which isn't ideal for freestyle - grip is generally better than slip for freestyle tricks - and they really don't have a lot of axle coverage at all. I'm surprised you can't find any freestyle wheels in Canada, but with how rough 2020 was, a lot of supply has dried up. I'd have a look at longboard shops in Canada and see if they happen to be carrying some of Seismic's Focus wheels - they're probably the most likely to be available somewhere.
@cantfigureitout4975
@cantfigureitout4975 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips thanks I never thought to check longboard shops.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
@@cantfigureitout4975 before I started Offset to sell freestyle gear myself, longboard shops were usually the only place you could get any freestyle gear in the UK. I suspect Canada might be in a similar situation right now. I really don't get why there's not more places selling freestyle stuff in Canada - especially considering Kevin Harris runs the largest distribution company over there! Someone has really dropped the ball.
@caseymonke
@caseymonke 4 года назад
Hey Tony I was wondering if you could recommend a wheel that would be suitable for both freestyle and street skating? I can't afford two seperate setups and want to make the most of my single setup.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Well, you'd want something with a skinny roll surface and a fairly hard/slidey urethane, so the 99a Mode wheels are probably your best bet: modeskateboards.bigcartel.com/product/mode-55mm-99a-freestyle-wheel-natural
@caseymonke
@caseymonke 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips thank you so much for your help!
@kessilrun6754
@kessilrun6754 4 года назад
One trick (not really a trick I guess) which might be neat to learn as a precursor to freestyle is the old 80s 180/ 360 power slide. It's fun for communiting and is one of the first old school me oves l I learned in the modern skate era that was the mid 90s and which got me wanting to learn other older tricks, like rail stands. It's also fun in general commute and a good way to scrub off speed or even get you in a switch position. Even the move where you're just kicking the tail out to skid briefly and bring it back in. I find the 360 slide, though, is a lot of really fast weight distribution shifting. [Edit] It seems, in looking up the move it's become adopted by longboarders mostly now.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Honestly, I try to avoid teaching or encouraging powerslide style moves because I think a) it teaches some bad habits (sliding is "less clean" than fully pivoting if you're turning 180º, and once sliding becomes an option for people, it encourages sliding round the end of spinning tricks rather than landing them cleanly) and b) endovers do a similar job without losing speed and teach skaters far more about delicate board and body weight control than a slide does.
@kessilrun6754
@kessilrun6754 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips I agree it definitely is more crude(?). And it's not a "trick" perse. I guess back in the day I just found it a flashy commuting trick and the sound of the "chirp-chirp" of the wheels I guess was catchy. Especially a full on power slide stop from full speed. Regardless, I certainly appreciate you teachings. You are very skilled!
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
My favourite when I'm getting around town is a little two-wheel slide sideways; lift up the front wheels and kick yourself sideways on the back two towards your heels, while still staying on the same alignment as before. It's a great way of dodging potholes and people. Anyway, I hope I didn't sound too dismissive. There are definitely folks who've taken the slidey stuff to an artform in freestyle - I highly recommend seeing what Stefan Albert has done with sliding around like a madman, and quick powerslides are John Sawyer's raison d'etre, apparently. I just think it's one of those things you want to introduce later - in a similar sort of fashion as "you must learn the rules to know when to break them", I guess.
@kessilrun6754
@kessilrun6754 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips No you're find , dude. No offense taken. I'm not nearly good enough to do your version ;p I'm trying to get back into it, after 20 years. I need to redevelop my balance and have been training on a standard deck on top of an IndoFlo cusion, to get that balance back. It's hella hard. Keep up the amazing work, you've got some baller moves there.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
@@kessilrun6754 I used to practice by doing stationary one foot nosewheelies in my bedroom as a teenager. That really helps - I highly recommend it.
@willhelmke2798
@willhelmke2798 4 года назад
if you like this video learn the trick and take them into the Spaces!(thank you want one of those single kix now)
@pollchannel6821
@pollchannel6821 3 года назад
nice
@dougthealligator
@dougthealligator 4 года назад
I knew freestyle was still around but I wouldn’t have thought that freestyle skaters would still use old jargon for certain things, like “Ollie flips”
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
I do. Most don't. With this example, I refuse to call kickflips "old school kickflips" for a multitude of reasons, so by extension, it's kickflip and ollie kickflip... as it bloody well should be!
@dougthealligator
@dougthealligator 4 года назад
Freestyle Tricktips that’s awesome dude, by the way I meant no criticism I’m just used to street terminology.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
@@dougthealligator No, it's okay. I know it can seem alien if you're not used to it. Even a lot of freestylers think my insistence on this stuff is weird, but considering how much wider our movepool is, it's kind of important to get the naming right so we understand what we're talking about.
@dougthealligator
@dougthealligator 4 года назад
Freestyle Tricktips for sure man, also, that tre, or Ollie 360 flip I think? was clean as hell. One of the best I’ve seen.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
@@dougthealligator Thanks. A few folks have said similar things on the rare occasion that I do 360 flips; I should probably do them more often!
@Mr007666
@Mr007666 4 года назад
Hi Tony, how tall is your setup on the Kill Your Idol board?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
TALLLLLLLL. The Paris trucks are truly giant. Since this video, I've dropped down from the 58mm Rollerbones to the 55mm Focus, but it's still quite a tall rig; I make it 99mm or 3 7/8" from the ground to the top of the deck. (That gives it a ratio of about 1.87:1 in terms of height vs width, which makes it a bit more stable in rail compared to my normal setup's 1.93:1. MATHS NERDINESS)
@Mr007666
@Mr007666 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips 9.9 cm? That's tall. Thanks:)
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
@@Mr007666 Yep. Tall is the way forward.
@psteffensen
@psteffensen 3 года назад
Have you tried the rubber griptape from DKL?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
I've not tried that exact one, but I've tried some rubber griptapes before; they're universally bloody terrible. Being as they're thicker than regular griptape (and all seem to getting a proper adhesion to the deck), they get snagged and pulled off the deck easily. Add in the fact that they really, REALLY don't handle caspers well, and you're wasting time and money even thinking about them.
@andresmeow5943
@andresmeow5943 4 года назад
What size of skid plates do you recommend for my 8-inch board?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Hey mate, I'll copy/paste the response I gave you on my personal channel just in case anyone else wants an answer to the same question on here: Skid plate choice isn't based on the size of the deck, but the shape of the tails. If you're riding a "regular" popsicle-shaped street deck, I tend to recommend these - they're not perfect, but they're close: offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/yoyo-skid-plates/
@andresmeow5943
@andresmeow5943 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips thank you very much broo I appreciate the information 🤘
@laisziepseuzan426
@laisziepseuzan426 4 года назад
Those synopsis are just sex.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Absolute heavenly joy. Since this video was shot, I swapped the wheels to 95a Focus (predictably). Oh, it is so smooth now. SO SMOOTH.
@H3LLE
@H3LLE 2 года назад
Is it just me or proper freestyle wheels and boards are nearly impossible to find in european stores? I'm even struggling to find the G-Bones..and it's Bones not some unknown manufacturer. I started skating in the 90s when freestyle was dead and we had no online stores, i've been stuck with the damn popsicle ever since :( Thanks for the valuable info though, t's refreshing to see other flatland enthusiasts.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
The problem is two-fold: 1) most freestyle companies don't have distributors 2) most skate shops don't believe anyone will buy freestyle stuff so don't want to bring it in. However, in the cases where brands do have distro, and where shops do bring in stock, the stuff flies off the shelves... so I don't know why so many people are stuck in that mid-to-late 90s mentality. Skateboarding culture is very different now to how it was then, but the people running the show are largely slow to act on that. Thankfully, there's enough dedicated freestyle stockists that you can get stuff if you know where to look. I run www.offsetskatesupply.co.uk here in the UK; Marius Constantin runs noseandtail.ro in Romania; and Christian Heise runs neverenoughskate.shop in Germany. Between the three of us it's pretty easy to get everything from a set of wheels to a full setup, no matter where you are in Europe.
@Rot_Dog666
@Rot_Dog666 8 месяцев назад
I’m thinking of getting into Freestyle, what boards would you recommend?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 8 месяцев назад
Honestly: that depends! Freestyle is such a weird and varied niche that recommendations are going to be more about you than they are about the board themselves - how tall you are, mostly, as you've got to get a deck that roughly matches your "natural stance". Then you've got to factor in what types of trick you're interested in; this Kill Your Idols setup is great for fingerflips and caspers, but not so great for shuvits, for instance.
@Rot_Dog666
@Rot_Dog666 8 месяцев назад
@@FreestyleTricktips ah, well, I’m 5’6 and really just want to do Casper’s and spacewalk. I’m also pretty average for my weight . if that plays into it as well
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 8 месяцев назад
​@@Rot_Dog666Okay; you're going to want a shorter board than average, something with low to no concave, and something with mellow kicktails. And I may be biased, but that sounds like my pro model: offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/moonshine-tony-gale-lionheart-7-3-x-28/ Of course, in the tradition of the ol' BBC, "other decks are available", but I highly recommend you prioritise length over all else; anything over 28.5" would probably feel too long for you when you start trying things like endovers and the like.
@Rot_Dog666
@Rot_Dog666 8 месяцев назад
@@FreestyleTricktips okay, thank you!
@denvermadison9052
@denvermadison9052 2 года назад
Dude what’s that thin ass long board all about in the background? That thing looks sick
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
That's a prototype longboard dancer that was made by a company I used to work for. It never went to production, but I kept the prototype and occasionally wheel it out to play with certain things. It made a guest appearance at the end of the g-turn tricktip I did to show that you can do them on any board, even ones as big and heavy as that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qDhkcdCCFH4.html
@victorzurdo6516
@victorzurdo6516 4 года назад
@Freestyle Tricktips Hi there! Love your videos. Im actually here to ask you a question. I live in spain and cant seem to find an online shop that stocks freestyle skateboarding goods. Anyone you know of? In the UK, anywhere as long as they ship. Thanks for the videos! you really got me back into it !!
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
I actually run my own online shop here in the UK - www.offsetskatesupply.co.uk - and I can ship to Spain. I've sent a few complete freestyle boards out that way this year. We're running a little low on stock right now, but I should have a bunch of Mode stuff coming in on Monday, so keep an eye out for those!
@victorzurdo6516
@victorzurdo6516 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips thank you very much for the reply, I´ll sure reach you there sometime in the next couple months for sure. Thanks again for your videos and especially for taking time to answer comments!! Offset is what I was looking for, just realised you DO have a link in the description to it, consider making it more visible. All the best.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
@@victorzurdo6516 honestly? I try not to shout too loudly about it. I want to make freestyle accessible, not merely push product to make money! BTW: if you haven't already, I definitely recommend you have a look at the Freestyle Tricktips website. RU-vid is a good video host, but it sucks for learning. The website is far more structured and contains a fair bit more data and info (including a retailer listing): freestyletricktips.com/
@BrunoOfCanada
@BrunoOfCanada 2 года назад
Isn't Kill Your Idols like a Sonic Youth thing? I mean if it was, man that's a COOL reference, plus the little bear has sunglasses, reminds of the Goo album cover
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
Yep, it was a really early EP. I can't believe it's taken this long for anyone to pick up on that!
@BrunoOfCanada
@BrunoOfCanada 2 года назад
yeah! wtf? two years for anyone to notice haha
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
@@BrunoOfCanada I guess there's just not a lot of Sonic Youth fans in the freestyle community. For shame, people; for shame.
@_Maxten
@_Maxten 4 года назад
its funny bc i just watched a video on mike osterman's channel where you rave about how double kicks are better than single kicks because you prefer having both sides the same when you shuv it lol
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Yeah, as a general rule, that's true... but I think what I neglected to mention in that video is that there's a lot of BAD double kicks out there. There's nothing worse than doing a shuvit and having the board feel just SLIGHTLY different, but not enough to really improve anything. A truly bidirectional double kick is heaven, but if you're going to make one end different, it might as well be radically different so you can get some real benefits from it.
@julijim4192
@julijim4192 4 года назад
Can I use a normal skateboard for freestyleing too
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
You can - that's pretty much how we all started - but it's not optimal. A lot of stuff is harder on a street board than it is on a freestyle board. If you plan on really getting into freestyle, it's worth getting a separate freestyle board for it.
@julijim4192
@julijim4192 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips thanks for the nice answer!!
@julijim4192
@julijim4192 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips i'll look for an seperate board :)
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
The freestyle setup builder over on the Offset site is probably the easiest way to get yourself set up: offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/freestyle-setup-builder/
@julijim4192
@julijim4192 4 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips thank u so much!
@jessegomez559
@jessegomez559 3 года назад
Does my shoe size matter on freestyle board
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
Not at all. Some people will say it does, but it really has no relevance. I have a US 10 shoe, and skate a 7.3/7.0" deck fine. A friend of mine has US 12 shoes, and he skates the little 7.25" KYI without issue. The most important thing is to get a deck which matches your natural stance. Relax, stand on the ground with your feet shoulder width apart, and measure the distance between the midpoint of your feet - not your toes or your heels, as if you're anything like me, one or both of your feet will be at an angle. Repeat that a few times and take an average. That's the baseline you should start with for your ideal wheelbase on a freestyle deck.
@jessegomez559
@jessegomez559 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips Thnx man really helped me out
@MidnightDreamsWolves
@MidnightDreamsWolves 3 года назад
Can u use free style boards at skate parks?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
It depends. Some skateparks have special sensors built into the door to vaporise freestyle decks as they come in. Joking aside, you can use them wherever or for whatever you like. I like using my freestyle setup on flatbanks, personally.
@MidnightDreamsWolves
@MidnightDreamsWolves 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips would it not be good idea to do the same tricks on a free style board as people do on a normal skateboard?
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
I wouldn't want to do grinds on a freestyle board (smaller axle means you'd have to be a lot more precise), but almost all ollie tricks were invented on freestyle boards; you can do them on a freestyle deck just fine.
@MidnightDreamsWolves
@MidnightDreamsWolves 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips that helps alot thanks
@trickswithjp
@trickswithjp 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips not gonna lie that made me laugh out loud haha
@goldenalex31
@goldenalex31 3 года назад
Круто!
@Danisholivetree
@Danisholivetree 3 года назад
just made this comment to get u to 100 comments on this vid. cool board btw
@thommccarthy1139
@thommccarthy1139 3 месяца назад
Lol some of the boards they were "going to rail" with back in the day were far more treacherous
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 месяца назад
Yeah, a lot of the 1970s boards were hilariously bad for rail tricks... which is why you didn't see a lot past railwhips and the like. Technical rail tricks really didn't come around until boards improved massively in the 80s, and rail tricks really jumped in technicality again when we start seeing modern freestyle boards develop in the 2000s.
@mandolore19
@mandolore19 2 месяца назад
Yeah, still have no idea what the graphic is supposed to mean. It's too subtle for my smooth brain to handle.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 месяца назад
I knew we should have gone with the more obvious and violent original drafts.
@YoutubeRemix06
@YoutubeRemix06 3 года назад
7.6 inch board is a “big boat”. I ride a 9.3 inch 😂
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
It's all about terrain/styles. I ride a 9" in bowls and pools, but freestyling on something that wide and heavy is ugly as sin. Same thing with longboards - I love watching people dance on the things, but watching people do "street" on one is awful!
@YoutubeRemix06
@YoutubeRemix06 3 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips people like erick winkowski and ace pelka ride street with wide decks and they shred
@norahbaker4598
@norahbaker4598 4 года назад
You look great on a single kick you should do more with one just for kicks pun intended
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
One of my oldest friends said the same. I definitely enjoy riding the single kick; it's great for more stationary and casper-based stuff, but a bit harder for long rolling lines.
@stonedmickey7991
@stonedmickey7991 3 года назад
Is it just me who finds street boards easier for freestyle
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 3 года назад
A bunch of folks prefer street decks. I think they work quite well for a couple of trick groups, but they do make a lot of tricks substantially harder - and even cut you off from some of them. Personally, I think most people who find street boards easier just haven't adjusted to anything else. Almost all freestylers below the age of 35 would have started on street decks (including myself), so I know it can be an odd transition to make (especially considering modern street decks were considered giant vert decks when I started skating!), but honestly, it's worth persevering with.
@Jiggityjax
@Jiggityjax 2 года назад
I'll buy them roller bones plz
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
Too late. This video is a few years old; those things went ages ago. And good riddance - they were terrible!
@Jiggityjax
@Jiggityjax 2 года назад
@@FreestyleTricktips really that bad .. I was looking in to buying you deck I love the shape it's kinda like a hanns but not money just been tight but I love the whole moonshine line up I think it's great
@jonathanximenes1979
@jonathanximenes1979 4 года назад
caralho por que nasci na porra de um pais que só tem shape freestyle nacional feito pelo per caguru
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
I had to run that through Google translate to understand it, but fuck, man. I'm sorry for laughing. I totally understand what you mean! If you can come to Europe for a skate at some point, the beer's on me.
@jonathanximenes1979
@jonathanximenes1979 4 года назад
understand
@stupedkiteh
@stupedkiteh 2 года назад
Came here for pointless little personal changes amd was a bit disappointed
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 2 года назад
Hahaha, sorry I let you down! Most of my setups are surprisingly "basic", by freestyle standards. The only real customisations I have to do are the woodscrews and the casper grip, but those are fairly common. A lot of the weird quirks people put into their setups are, as you pointed out, ultimately pointless. Using quality components that actually work properly and are the right size for your build and trick set is the most important thing to get right.
@analwipe
@analwipe 4 года назад
what perfect timing, my board broke like 2 weeks ago and ive been riding it with no grip tape.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Glad to be of service! Next video: how to put axle nuts onto your trucks. Your wheels will never fall off again!
@fuckmyego
@fuckmyego 4 года назад
This was a fun change of pace. Oh, if you don' mind I have a question! do any freestyle decks have steep concave? are they all flat? I really love the feel of concave. I just got a 7.75" (down from a 8.5") to start learning some basic freestyle. I feel like I'm riding ona toothpick, already. Also not to be a nitpicker, when you mentioned your "ollie tricks" you did a tre. That's a mostly back-foot trick (some people don't even use their front foot at all) and quite different than popping over something using a classic ollie. Your freestyle is amazing, obviously. LASTLY (sorry about such a long comment but hte video has so much content), I'm really happy to hear that you don't like pogos.
@FreestyleTricktips
@FreestyleTricktips 4 года назад
Questions are good! Always happy to chat about this stuff. Concave: the OG Moonshine decks, before the pro models came out, had GIANT concave. Street style. And... it's not great on such a small board. When I rode 7.75" pops in the 2000s, I loved the big concave too. It actually works against you for freestyle, though. Reduces the amount of contact you have with your board and really messes up a lot of tricks. That's why all the Moonshine pro models currently have super-mellow concave (or, in the case of my board, absolutely none). Getting rid of the concave actually reduces that "toothpick" feel a bit, too; you can feel the whole width of the board, instead of just two points at the edges. It tricks you into thinking a 7.25" is wider than it is. I think the only freestyle deck I'd really recommend with sizeable concave is Mode's Postcard. I think it's way too steep personally, but the deck still works well. Ollie tricks: yeah, you're right, 360 flips are all in the back foot. But for some reason, people think that they're impossible without concave. Fools, all of them. Generally, I find most ollie flip tricks a bit more predictable without concave. Non-flipped tricks (like frontside 180s) get a bit weird if your griptape isn't good, though. You can't afford to be sloppy on them if you don't have concave to snag on. And yes, pogos suck the big one. Bloody stupid things. Truck tricks are fine, but sitting there bouncing on your skateboard makes you look like an idiot.
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