Building a Proper Roundhouse Area for Storing Trains in Railroads Online! 

What if a train got between two rails adjacent each other, as in like "H H" and the space between was equal to that of rails they ride on, would they theoretically be able to ride like that, or would that cause some sort of glitchy jumping? would be interesting to test I feel.

Cold steel has basically the same friction as when it's warm. The winter-problems for railroads are frozen switches/points and large quantities of snow. Basically: water is bad, no matter if liquid or frozen.

Just FYI, that glitchy texture effect has a specific name. It's called Z-Fighting. Multiple 3D objects with textures on the same plane will attempt to display at the same time. Z-Buffer does not allow this so the buffer instead flips rapidly between the textures. If the render engine is setup properly it'll automatically offset one of the objects(so one texture is covering the other) by just a hair to stop the Z-fighting effect.

The Engines should be parked with their chimneys aligned with the ones on the shed as they help with draft when heating an engine from cold. Oh and it's true you blow the cylinder cocks when turning the engine off, but also after prolonged periods of inaction like at a station, as the cylinders might cool, water in cylinders are a really bad thing. water doesn't compress so if there's water in the cylinder when starting without blowing the cocks, a pocket of water might warp the pistons or crack the cylinders, and then you have a very big tea kettle instead of a train engine.

I wish we could have those longer building segments more Also the Eurika and Class 70 make a good double header

Very organized, you have satisfied Alex.

An idea for the future, build a engine shed at each of the industries and house a Betsy at each as the shunter for those locations (logging #1, sawmill #1 etc) when you have multiple people playing online and shunt yards at each as well. So they can shunt loaded wagons ready for you to arrive and the take the empties from you and you pick up the loaded ones. Saves you waiting around.

Looking good. Now just put another line off the turntable out into the shunt yard and you can enter/exit in either direction!

Seems like you really need a Y-split/switch for those sheds Considering the design of them it's a bit surprising that the devs didn't add one along with them

I finally have a line to the Logging camp in my game. I called the railroad the "Pine Valley Railroad"

If you drive the trains FORWARD onto the turntable, you can immediately grab the turntable handle and run it around 180 degrees. This lets you then have the handle next to you next to the shed when lining them up. It just makes it a lot more convenient rather than trying to look around the train and guess when it's lined up.

Save the other Turntable for your Cabooses and Other Special cars that may be added Also with the Main Turntable (w/ The Sheds) have the handle faceing the Sheds

What do you think about hooking the turntable into your second shunt yard? It's trivial to build a second entrance to them. Just hook the rail up next to the rail that you linked the table to. That would also allow you to drive your engines out without turning them a full 180°. Or to back them in without turning them 180°. Also, you forgot a sand tower next to your water tower.

You have room to actually build more of the engine sheds opposite of the ones you already have...so in essence the turntable would be surrounded by sheds. The lip should actually be the other way, you want your engines to drop onto the turntable from the engine shed and lead tracks, i.e. the track leading to the turntable and the tracks into the engine sheds should all be a little higher than the turntable.

I understand that when you have 2 engines pulling against each other the coupling goes yeeten't. However, what is you "double headed" 2 engines? Possibly a Heisler running in reverse (With the railcars coupled to the front of the Heisler) and a Mogul/Class 70 in the front. On flat ground, Hop in the front Mogul/Class 70 and you have quicker speed and when you need power, the Heisler is your friend. No idea how this will work as I only have an 0-4-0; an 0-4-2; and a Mogul. Ideas be springing.

4:13 oh yes, the weather definitely affects how a train performs. In fact some of those inclines that you have up to the iron works would be impassable if the snow was affecting the train. Even a light frost can make it impossible for a train to climb a slope without sand being placed on the tracks.

I think a cool addition to the game would be a rotary snow plow that you have to use like once every 12 hours of gameplay or something to clear snow from the tracks

38:15 kAN : geting in the mogul Also kAN : Standing outside *GLITCH IN THE MATRIX*

The Class 70 gets its own shed because it's AWESOME

You could turn the oldturn table into a caboose storage yard or a retired retired engine area

Pairing the Eureka with a cordwood/flatcar or caboose/brake-van and Betsy would be a pretty OP but simple pairing for empty-haul routes (one-way loaded/difficult and an easy return-leg) [Caboose]-[train]-[train]-[train]-[] >>Uphill>> -If that monstrosity can't pull it, a class 70 probably won't either. Just be sure to top-off Betsy's water, 100% the Eureka and go gentle on Betsy's reg. That'd keep Betsy relevant even on medium-haul runs, and the Porter-2 for logs-to-saw runs. Mogul for medium long-hauls, and the Heisler for ultra-grunt.

you could have built one of the tracks from the turntable exactly straight through so you dont have to adjust it to get to one of the engines (although it wouldnt be symmetrical anymore). also there is more space for more sheds around the table.. on the opposite side. like that you could store 2 Betsys in one lane and if you want the one in the back, move other one to the opposite shed - just some ideas.. keep going with the railroads videos!

Hey Kan, don’t know how this would look but what if you did the sheds in two parallel lines like buildings on the side of the road, with their doors facing towards the opposite side. Had a line of turntables with maybe a normal track piece in between or something. (Match the sheds up with the turn tables so you have essentially one table servicing two sheds or four doors.) Then just leave all of the turn tables straight, turn the specific one for your shed, put the train on the table and turn it, drive it out. Then you could have like one shed at the very end of the line, kinda like an uppercase Pi in Greek Π with like the service line going down the middle? Like I said, don’t know if you could pull off the angles or not but could prob fit like 10 or so sheds that way if you needed to upgrade. You have enough land to prob pull it off. Just a thought.

i rather make a branching line than a round table.

Ok, some ideas for making your rail yard look and function more like an actual rail yard: 1. In real railyards, the through-tracks off of the main are only used to assemble outgoing trains and disassemble incoming trains. You only need a couple of these. Your storage tracks can all be dead-ends because you'd realistically be using a small switching locomotive (Porter, ALCO/Cooke 2-4-2T, Baldwin 0-6-0, etc. - in your case, Betsy and Betsy 2) to sort rolling stock. 2. You should have a firewood depot and a watertower on a lead out from the turntable. This way they're both close to the engine shed but they're not blocking the main access track to the turntable. 3. For your inbound and outbound tracks, you should have a separate switching lead so that switching operations don't interfere with incoming and outgoing trains. That being said, there is a kind of rail yard that uses your system of having fully assembled trains on separate, double-sided tracks - it's called a staging yard. Staging yards aren't used on full-size railroads because there's no reason to store fully assembled trains on those, but they're used on model railroads so that trains can "travel" to locations beyond the boundaries of the layout, and are often also used to hide a continuous run on layouts that would otherwise be point-to-point. Additionally, they're used to store trains that aren't in use on the layout at all.

this looks great Kan. I would've lined the sheds up in a straight line and then curved the tracks to meet them, but this looks pretty cool too.

Good video, I gotta say the mechanics of the turn table drive me insane.

You could store the caboose in the shed with the class 70

truthfully, with the seven different engines in the game, you only need 3 sheds, as Betsy 1 & 2 could fit on one line together.

Oh kan I just realized a use for the old turntable You can get a bun of the pushcarts and store em their and use them for shunting

i would think it be a cool idea to have one of the sheds as a means to basicly catch any runaway frieghtcars at the bottome of the hills that way even if it derails its supsosably likly not gonna go flying to farand you can tottly expect that if some how it stayed on the line to the point were it has to run off the tracks it be in a controlled area and thus you can expect were such things will gose if they for soem resion go out of controll or missing

I say try the Eureka for wood trains, be it logs or beams/planks.

kAN getting a cold? voice seems quite raspy. also maybe it would be best to remove the old round table and replace it with a temp shed to store your first train.

Everysingle piece of machinery is a female Kan! They are expensive and high maintenance but you gotta love em when they run the way you want them too.

kAN: "It places an invisible one" Me: But ... I can see it.

Hi, I love these videos, keep making more!

Hypothetically if you sacrificed one shed on the right you could have a rail leading to another turntable sheds in the back for more room and the ones in the back are the ones you don’t used as often

You should put a Caboose in one of the sheds

The Eureka looks a good bit faster than before

Kan, for the time being; you could put the caboose in shed 8 as a space saver and keep it warmer during the winter

Also, love the series and your commentary, even when you bash Eurika.

If you plan on getting a Class 70, you're going to want the track going into the turntable to come out straight on the other side to the shed since the Class 70 is too long to be rotated on any of the turn tables currently in the game.

38:14 hope the devs leave this bug in because it's a harmless one that's just plain fun to spot.

Kan the only thing you have to worry about is ice covered rails when it comes to snow in real life.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! Please stop saying Round Table, for that is a meeting and discussion. What you are building is a turntable connected to a roundhouse (well the closest thing to a roundhouse you can get so far in the game.)

I love this. Could you check if the smoke stacks on the sheds have an actual function

Should wait to build a roundhouse until they add ACTUAL round houses in the game. Using the sheds is as a roundhouse is like tring to fit a square block in a round hole.

You could probably store more than one small loco in each lane

The freight depot has a second unload platform that longer you never built up to it

because you and Kosmo i brought this game i must say is hard and annoying place tracks and not counting how many times i lost the logging camp

You should start working on the oil mine

i will say this and i got proof the class 70 is longer than the turntable but as long as you got the drive wheels on and the tender on the front trucks or the front 2 wheel will not collied with anything yet so you can turn the class 70 on the turntable but it will bt janky

Thinking it might be worth while to add another firewood depot closer to the engine sheds for refueling while they're parked. Could set it so the loading dock is backed right up to that closest line from the adjacent shunt yard.

Like imagine having sleep in game so if u dont have the caboose you need to go home and sleep there and have a day night cycle that would be a use for it and another idea having cold and warm effects if its cold u dont want to die so u wanna stay warm in the caboose near the fire :edit i really lile this serie keep up the great worl on it

You should leave the old turntable for showoff if you know what I mean. Like locos

I feel like tying the engine sheds to a single common line would be best. That way the turn table doesn't have to rotate unless the engine itself needs flipped... Though this will mean a less compact design

Couldet you just deliver to fireplace station and make money to use the firewood to get more wood for firewood

You should see sevex 2020 gradient vid on the eureka i bet youl be suprised

I feel like Betsy should be in shed 8. It is the most powerful engine after all

You should make the old turn table into a betsy home and just have like 5 Betty's there just because betsy

mom: what are you laughing at? me: nothing also me: the trains of the round table

You could by 1 more Betsay & Betasy 2 and call it Bella & bella 2 Put Bella behind Betasy & put Bella 2 behind Betasy 2. you can call them something other then Bella tbh.

Can't you just put another line to the out going instead of having to back them out?

I suppose if you started to play it normall then snow wouldnt be an issue but if you start in snow, forget it, wait for snow to go..My eyes cant take it

Did you know that Eureka in real life can do 40 mph?

i love what you do did with the round table and sheds. i do think it would be cool to have multiple people driving trains to and from places. like the logging camp and sawmill

Kan: ima buy the class 70 soon Also kan:i got plenty of mony to buy new stuff Also also kan: oh my god i cant wait to get the class 70 Also kan: nah ill do it later

Are you ok mate? This video felt somewhat forced… You also sound kinda sick… I'm a bit worried about you! Don't overwork yourself!!! If you need it, take some time off!

You could have used the rail switches, would have worked cleaner imo as you only would have needed 3 places the turntable has to turn to and just flick the switch

hey kan i could help with running trians if you would like

The roundhouse is going to look so impeccable when you are done.

There are in total 8 engines : there is the Betsy, the Betsy 2, The Cooke, the Class 70, the Climax, the Heisler, the one that is powered by pulling up and down, and the Eureka.

Damm people are quick when commenting

this reminds me of old thomas the train from when i was a kid

What if you stored the cars in the old tern table

Yoooo

I am here in ten minutes also nice place for trains

Kan probably the reason why the Eureka isn't working is you probably haven't turned the handbrake off on the tender. Try that. All the tender engines need it.

I don't know why you're complaining about the Erica, when you were reversing into the roundabout area it was going pretty quick, it would be a great train for delivering wood or transporting iron to the iron works

Very nice work! It looks like a proper roundhouse! I hope they might consider adding drive through sheds in the future, that way people could make sidings for temporary storage, or maybe even a car maintenance shop. Something else I really hope they add is the steam crane from their first game: "American Railroads: Summit River and Pine Valley". It would make an awesome rerail tool or extra crane at loading docks.

They need to make it so the buildings place the same way the track does, and I’m saying this literally over a year after this video was made. Instead of them linking to you. Link them to the grid so you can turn them in place so you can line them up. I’ve said so in the dev’s suggestion box, but I doubt he will do it… he seems to be more focused on making the game into an LGB starter set lately instead of going back to existing content and fixing / updating the coding… and adding a proper “Y” switch would be nice, where both points of the switch curve off at the same angle instead of one going straight and the other curving. You could use the new 3-way switch for this and ignore the “middle” point, but a proper “Y” switch would be so much nicer…

put the tenders on the old turn table kan

Betsy is truly a beast. She survived the full speed downhill parcour from the iron mine down into the valley without derailing. Keep her as she is for quick support and rescue missions. The caboose might fit better to Betsy 2, wich could be used as a kind of track building / maintenance train. A red light at the top of the caboose would be a signal for a closed track, a section you're working on or something. Could be great, when the devs implement night time.

As a test a while back (before many of the physics patches - so it may not behave exactly the same) I drove Betsy VERY slowly off the end of the rail so her wheels were in the dirt. I did this slowly enough that the engine did not bounce or lose it's alignment with the track. I then backed it back on to the rails. The first (back) wheels were a bit stubborn to climb back on to the rails but it only took about 40% regulator. The front wheels followed with no problem. Unless the physics have been changed drastically I doubt the difference in rail height at the turntable will stop any of the engines. The Porter has the smallest wheels of all the locomotives so if Betsy can climb the full height of the rail, the others should have no problem.

Just just an idea why don't you move the refueling area closer to the sheds Just to give it that little bit of Also just for aesthetics you could put us like a train shed that like every one of the industries So like the train you want to be up in the mountain on the iron line you just leave it up at the iron Man Just suggestion I will say this a lot of the good locomotives didn't really start showing up until like the late 1800s I say late and like 1880 to really 1945 maybe 1960 This game could benefit from having a good heavy freight locomotive like the Constitution I believe that's the name At the same time I don't think the dev attended for one person to be hauling more than 10 cars at a time That's just my occlusion And I recognize that there are passenger trains that shouldn't really be there but are but I think they're because of the time period of the game

a better layout for the Roundhouse set up using the Sheds is to place a shed, then place a single open track. another shed and another track. repeat as needed until you have a suitable area for storing Engines. also place your Engine Servicing facilities Water Tower, Sanding Tower, and Fueling Depot. on the approach track to the turntable. as you take an engine out, you can make sure it's fully fueled, watered and sanded for work. somewhere nearby should be the Caboose Track for storing the Cabooses ready to be placed onto a train.

Kan You should move your entrance to the turntable to the main line because if trains are pulling in or train cars are parked on the shunt yard trains leaving the turntable might be stuck!?

Just an idea, but couldn't you make a line from the turntable to the left (comming from the sheds) where your cars are currently parked? That way you wouldn't need to drive out the engines in reverse to get on the main line. (And steam locomotives are, like ships, always refered to as female)

31:41 based on their names I would say Betsy is definitely a female, Heisler is more male, Eureka is more female, Class 70 is nonbinary, Cooke Mogul (I probably misspelled that) is a dude, and idk the names of any of the other ones.

I feel like you're not using the reverser correctly. Would you drive a manual car using only reverse, neutral and top gear? I realise it's not exactly the same (except for maybe the geared trains), however, I reckon you'll have a far different experience if you ramp it up as you go for either reverse or forwards.

When you were building your roundhouse how come you didn't have a track exactly opposite your feed track? Then your longer locomotive could have driven straight through without issue and parked in the shed.

Snow basically doesnt affect trains. Even Ice just melts under the pressure. The biggest problem are leaves and wetness, because then some resin like liquid, that is really slippery, comes out of wet leaves when they are under pressure.

a small shed cost about 1,800 where i am, how much would a engine shed cost?

You could use the old turntable as a caboose storage cable or a retired engine turntable

Good thing you're not working with cannons in the cold because that would freeze the balls off of brass monkey. That's an actual old saying that was real :-)

All steam locomotives with the exception of the big boy locomotives are shes Diesel locomotives are he's

what about the pump car?

Just a fair warning, the Class 70 is too long for the current turntables, needs a straight line to get into a shed, so might have to redo all of this for it

KAN, steamers along with other locomotives are supposed to take-off slow, for one they are trying to get a lot of weight moving and also if they take-off fast, then the wheels will slip/spin, and also not only that, but they will also ruin the wheels and the rails.

You could possibly have a couple more sheds further back if you deleted one of the sheds and were willing to put some switches in but that would look more messy and complicate things. Another thing is you could also just build a couple platforms and a water tower or something and make the area behind the sheds some kinda work shop like area for decoration or something.