Building a Strong Antagonist 

Dang it, TM…now I need to see Paddingtom Bear vs Thanos.

Thanos would intentionally keep him alive, for a better world

I would LOVE to see a movie of Paddington vs Thanos! The philosophical conflict between determined idealism and warped pragmatism would be so interesting

He’s literally voiced by the president of Ukraine

Yes sir

America

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Usually without the 'villain' there's no story lol

that must have been terrifying. i hope this woman suffers worse than that.

Yes. Often times people use philosophy, politics, etc. to justify their own dark desires.

That’s horrifying

There truly is evil in this world.

Hey, so sorry you had to go through that.

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I respectfully disagree. Most authors want to show good to triumph over evil and that is a good message to give. Of course they would subscribe to that. I know that evil can definitely win in the real world but fiction is supposed to be an escape, right? I also respect your opinion though, so I hope you don't mind

@@syedarizvi7290 I don't mind at all. How do you disagreed? I see nothing in your text that differ from my opinion.

@@Leto85 Oh I'm sorry, it seems I misunderstood you. So I thought that when you were talking about basically getting into a character's headspace, the way they think, you start to agree with them and the person in the video seems to say that the villain should have his own version of truth and he should be right in some capacity. I thought you said the same thing, sorry. So I was trying to say that, even though this concept can make an amazing villain, I just think that a lot of people in the audience and I'm sure you've seen in as well, start to love the villain and admire him. Even though I know of course it's all fiction and not real but I feel like more and more REAL people start spewing weird nonsense in day to day life, like the fiction went into their heads and use that villain as a role model. In my opinion it shouldn't happen. What do you think? Sorry again for misunderstanding you at first

@@syedarizvi7290If you ask what I think about these type of villains then I can say that I see a common pattern that makes us as the audience like them: they have humor. And they don't cross boundaries that we in real life find abhorrent. None of them I see raping children or kicking pets, and as long as I don't see that happening I have an easier time appreciating the villain's sense of humor. Either they kill inconsequential characters, or Whst they kill seemed justified somehow, such as the bullies who were killed by Arthur in The Joker. Or how Harley Quinn had killed a man who had sexually aharrased her and she fed him to her hygiena pet. We don't see the brutal murder, but it still feels justified since this man was not innocent. This is what we as the audience make like the villian. Did this answer your question?

@@Leto85 The thing is, I also like villains that have a good sense of humor, they have charisma that make them likeable just like any other character, say, the hero. That's fine, I love Sukuna from Jujutsu Kaisen even though he's like pure evil (he was funny and powerful but obviously I only like him because he's not real). Though I could never ever justify his actions, same as I could never justify the bad actions I see the typical good guys make sometimes. As for Arthur, I think it was self-defense, I think if he didn't kill them, they would have killed him. As for crimes against women, the criminals should be punished severely like any other criminal like kidnapping, stealing etc. Crimes like that leave the victims scarred for life and severe depression. So yeah I agree that all this makes sense but sometimes you might see villains kill people for as little as insulting them and people in the crowd say stuff like; "serves them right!". Mind you, again I have not forgotten this is all fictional and not real so I try not to think about it so much. But honestly, evil characters or even rude good guys are the types of characters I honestly just hate to see. That's just my opinion however and please know that I wouldn't guilt trip someone for liking a certain evil character, to each their own. Sorry for the long rant! Thank you so much for chatting with me! Is there anyone else you wanna talk about?

Of course, that’s what I’m writing right now actually. It’s tricky, but it’s been seen before like in The Silence of the Lambs with Hannibal Lector and Clarice Starling.

Uh-huh *Black Panther* where he lets go of his beliefs and implements villains idea, just "protagonistic" way - if that's the word.

I'm currently writing something similar to that; but after I watched this video and this particular concept was never once mentioned; I'm kind of feeling demotivated right now. :(

That’s exactly what I am planning to write! I think this is a brilliant idea, and I need to put more effort to achieve a successful story

I think that would be young magneto in days of future past

RIGHT?!?! Someone make it happen!

I would pay to see that. Watching Paddington save the galaxy by showing Thanos how to be kind and caring is worth the price of admission.

That's true. They just go about it in different ways

Like Luffy and Blackbeard

It's hard not to. He's one of the most celebrated antagonists in film history.

the visuals of the joker in the films make that character particularly dramatic for a youtube video

We've all seen it so it's a good example in that regard

I think it’s because he’s an example of an antagonist that has a very clear and simple symbolic opposition to the protagonist that most people have seen.

Losing themselves. That's what Katniss in the Hunger Games sacrifices, her freedom to choose who she loves is another she gives up.

@@benjaminread5287 Nice. Any other examples of a possible sacrifice?

@@jakubrejak1114 I don't think it's that hard to come up with them. You should make a list of everything a character could lose. Some things may be more dear to certain characters than others, they could sacrifice their job, reputation, just about anything. But if your talking about a sacrifice in order to develop as a character then the sacrifice will usually be dictated by the character's flaw.

look at the stakes that the character faces should they not achieve what their goal or want. death is but one type of sacrifice. there are also professional stakes, identity stakes, and many others.

Sacrifice ones beliefs, a hero who does not kill, breaking their code to save others, damning themselves.

Can you provide an example of this?

i think you should make the protagonist conflict be themselves. those types of stories are kinda interesting tho

What is it about?

So a bit like daredevil and the punisher who both aim to fight crime for different reasons and methods which conflict with each other but at the end joining together to fight another antagonist (the Irish gang and the Hand)

Yeah, not every character has to be morally grey. Plenty of irl people are evil to the core with no redeeming value.