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Building an I.T. Infrastructure in Pakistan, Education and Punjab Gov - Dr. Umar Saif -  

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Dr. Umar Saif comes on the podcast for an extremely informative discussion on the state of Information Technology in Pakistan; from why Pakistani Universities are failing to produce high level graduates to how political instability is destroying Pakistan's progress, on this deep dive podcast we discuss I.T., India, I.I.Ts, Higher Education, LUMS, PITB, Punjab Government, ITU, and how I.T. was used in Government projects in Punjab.
Dr. Umar Saif is the founder and CEO of aiSight.ai (formerly SurveyAuto.com). He is the CEO of Khudi Ventures, Pakistan's largest venture studio. He works as the Chief Digital Officer of the Jang/Geo group. He is also an advisor to the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) in Pakistan.
Previously, Dr. Saif was a cabinet member in Government of Punjab and served as the Chairman of the Punjab Information Technology Board (PITB). His work led to a radical digital transformation of the government in Punjab and several of his initiatives were replicated throughout the country. He was the founding Vice Chancellor of ITU and established it as one of premier technology universities in Pakistan. Dr. Saif founded Plan9, Pakistan’s first government-backed startup incubator, as well as Punjab’s e-rozgaar program. He is often cited as one of the main forces behind Pakistan's startup ecosystem.
Dr. Saif received his PhD in Computer Science in 2001 at University of Cambridge and worked at MIT for several years before returning to Pakistan. He was the first Pakistani to be named as one of the top 35 young innovators in the world by the MIT Technology Review (TR35) and the first Pakistani to receive a Google faculty research award in 2011. He was selected as a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum in 2010. He has received the MIT Technovator Award, Mark Weiser Award, IDG Technology Pioneer Award and the British Council Outstanding Alumni Award. Dr. Saif was awarded Sitara-i-Imtiaz in 2014, one of the highest civil awards by government of Pakistan. He was named among the 500 most influential Muslims in the world consecutively between 2015-2020. In 2018, he was awarded the UNESCO Chair for using ICT for Development. Dr. Saif has founded several technology companies and serves on the board of various private, public and financial institutions.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:07 His PHD from Cambridge, being a professor at LUMS, teaching at MIT, and why Pakistan is left behind compared to Indian IITs
19:14 What our universities lack, his IT university, and how universities work abroad, the quality of our PHDs
29:46 Why he felt he could make a difference and how he joined the government
43:01 Government Issues & Punjab’s digitization of land records
55:55 Shahbaz Sharif and sales tax crowdsourcing, black economies, UPI and digitization
1:09:28 How India has digitized, importance of cash in Pakistan and India’s demonetization, and our lack of import substitution
1:17:59 Atoms and how they started, IT exports, remittances, tech industry in India vs Pakistan
1:33:31 What’s stopping PayPal in Pak, unicorn culture in India,
1:38:55 Audience Questions

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Комментарии : 1,6 тыс.   
@vijayathorat4730
@vijayathorat4730 Год назад
I know this has nothing to do with the current podcast, however today I watched a video on a Pakistani Hindu girl being forcibly converted to Islam. She and her family was crying bitterly to release her. I was extremely disturbed. Can you deal with this topic in your next podcast PLEASE
@kabiraaspeaking4300
@kabiraaspeaking4300 Год назад
actually their fake quranic constitution never gave rights to non muslims....these monsters never understand the intellectuallt or philosophy of non muslims
@18potboy
@18potboy Год назад
They will never change, we just gonna have to make them cease to exist. In the span of world history 70 is nothing. No one will remember pakistan ever existed 500 years from now. Hindustan has always been here and shall remain. 🚩🇮🇳
@mylord3003
@mylord3003 Год назад
They are busy worrying about indian sumlims.
@LaughOutLoudLOL7777
@LaughOutLoudLOL7777 Год назад
They won't it need guts....
@umangdesai4136
@umangdesai4136 Год назад
India barra radical ho raha hai! Dekho.. Indian twitter warriors yahan par bhi hate phaylaaney ke liye aa gaye!! (If they can read through thr sarcasm!)
@ChandraGuptaMourya
@ChandraGuptaMourya 7 месяцев назад
LeT & JeM are greatest Pakistani start ups. Keep up the great job.
@Do_not_search_Adam_seeker_urdu
@Do_not_search_Adam_seeker_urdu 6 месяцев назад
😂
@I0-_-0I
@I0-_-0I 22 дня назад
Building more mosques and madarsa's will propel Pakistan to great heights.
@LiberalHindu
@LiberalHindu Год назад
Huge fan of the podcast. At 1:30:12 Dr. Saif is outright incorrect when he says that Indian govt was sleeping and was not aware of IT. On the contrary Rajiv Gandhi in mid-80s realized and foresaw the scope of computers/IT. In 1997, India had its very first IIIT (Indian Instt of Information Tech) established in Gwalior and today we have 10 globally reputed IIITs across India. Actually India started studying computers long before that, IIT Kharagpur launched its CSE deptt in 1963 with an IBM 1620 system - a novelty then, even in many North American and European universities. Truth is India missed the manufacturing bus, but was bang on prepared when it came to catch the IT bus. Govt of India was successful in creating a suitable and fertile environment for the IT, and Infosys, TCS, HCL, Wipro, Tech Mahindra and many others are a testimony to that. In the FY 2022-23 Indian startups got an investment of more than $40bn.
@hatorihanzo999
@hatorihanzo999 Год назад
In India politicians do listen to intellectuals.
@Zubair-Khan
@Zubair-Khan Год назад
Before Rajiv Nehru realize this When Pakistan was changing PMs on daily basis.. i don't know why he said that
@ahaanmisra4892
@ahaanmisra4892 Год назад
@@Zubair-Khan you probably need a library membership!!
@nagendraprasadr9278
@nagendraprasadr9278 Год назад
Such ignorant observation... Not just the Central government...State governments opened SEZs, gave tax exemptions, built so much of infrastructure just for these IT companies... I remember how states use to out do each other in brining the IT companies to setup shop in their states... NASSCOM worked with governments to get policies in place... Here is this guy passing easy comments like this. Laughable that even so called well read live in this denial. For example, the whole world knows how CM of yesteryear Andhra Pradesh went all out to make Hyderabad an IT hub. Govts worked overtime to get their states get a jump start in IT. India has made it very big in IT is because governments invested in education and institutions...the availability of the talent pool was made sure. Now that all lots of Global companies with Indian CEOS, the seeds were sown long back...not yesterday.
@pintukrdas7483
@pintukrdas7483 Год назад
Jai hind sir...❤ from assam
@ashishtandon2008
@ashishtandon2008 Год назад
I did my graduation in Chemical Engg. from HBTI Kanpur. It is one of the oldest engg. institutes in India. I was the "kholu" of my branch in my year. There was a concept of "dhakkan" of the batch too, and was referred to the student who got the last seat of the last branch to be filled in that year. The "dhakkan" of our batch was the first person to leave the college 4 years out. Why? Because he had secured the highest rank in CAT in our college, and on the day of his last examination of btech, he wrote the exam, got in a taxi, boarded a flight from Lucknow Airport, landed in Ahmedabad, and registered himself in the MBA program in IIM Ahmedabad. That chap had the clarity of thought that although he had not secured the best of ranks in engg. entrance he still had the chance to make it big in PG. And today he heads a major insurance firm in Boston MA. IITs are great, no doubts about it. But it is the grit of the Indian students in any institution that make them stand out. And it is the sanskar given to us by our parents that help us do that. Give the correct learnings to your kids and see them do wonders with their abilities.
@yashk4051
@yashk4051 11 месяцев назад
As a MBA aspirant n just passed out engg..this sounds so good
@utkarshkumardubey498
@utkarshkumardubey498 11 месяцев назад
I truly approve this... It's not just IITs, It's actually in our DNA, be it any tier 2, 3 college we will anyways do better...😅
@ashishtandon2008
@ashishtandon2008 11 месяцев назад
@@agrippa-theskeptic9346 ok, thank you for the correction.
@AayushPatel-gc3fw
@AayushPatel-gc3fw 7 месяцев назад
Hello, respected senior, I am too from HBTI, kanpur, Electrical Engineering Department.
@ashishtandon2008
@ashishtandon2008 7 месяцев назад
@@AayushPatel-gc3fw Hi Ayush. So good to hear from a fellow Harcourtian.
@ObjeactiveCricLover
@ObjeactiveCricLover Год назад
I did my Bachelors from an IIT in 2015. I am working as a Software Engineer in Europe. One point that everyone misses is - What contributes most in the success of IITians is the peer group. The hostel life transforms a person totally in 4 years. The freedom to get engaged in non-academic activities with competent peers is of immense value. To this day, me and all my friends have a strong urge to go and spend a day in the campus.
@hanzofunai4238
@hanzofunai4238 Год назад
For every 2 person who studied ,in a hostel, there must be 8 who were day scholars and went onto become good S/w engineers. This is conflating a happenstance. Good time to remind oneself that correlation does not imply causation. While staying in a hostel can indeed be transformative, it does not uniquely foster peer engagement. Its also true that the ability to work in a a co-operative self correcting groupit is a an absolute necessary trait to succeed as a S;w producing community. Just going by sheer data. neither a IIT or a hostel life uniquely contribute to these traits. My 2 cents - The trait could be cultural. (Why Japan (or even a China, South Korea ) did not grow to be software service giants is worth a case study ( Lack of English speaking population again would be a wrong conclusion.. Romania, Poland, and other eastern European countries are indeed successful cost centers even without a English speaking population.( The scale is only limited by their population)
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
Interesting!
@ObjeactiveCricLover
@ObjeactiveCricLover Год назад
@Hunzo Funai - In IITs, almost everyone stays in hostel. Probably 8-10 students in a batch of close to 1000 are day scholars. The students in IITs are generally not all from the cities where IITs are situated, but from across India. My argument was not merely about hostel life, but more about learning from competitive peers from diverse backgrounds, which is helped by a vibrant hostel life.
@nacpatil
@nacpatil Год назад
IITs have extremely good infrastructure. If you had gone to local college and had to do the dumb assignments which consumes most of your sem, at that point peer group can hardly help! Because same peers there would be competing for Infosys job as that’s what’s viable at that point. As someone pointed above coincidence is not causation. Also IITs produce pretty average people in the end considering top tallent that goes in and the Infrastucture for country like india. In certain ways actually iits have more infrastructure than top univ in USA.
@iamjustnishant
@iamjustnishant Год назад
In my IIIT (Indian Institute of information Technology) there was no concept of day scholars. Even guys who used to live in the city used to live with us at the hostel rather than with their parents.
@jaspal8jan
@jaspal8jan Год назад
Sundar Pichai is Mettalurgical engineer from IIT Kharagpur.. IITs are not just for IT/Computer Science, these are relatively new courses, IIT have all engineering fields. Pichai doesn't have any degree in computer science but still he leads Google and so many other IITians.. I am in IT and I don't have any IT formal degree, I work for a global IT giant company headquartered in USA..
@jagdishprajapati9574
@jagdishprajapati9574 Год назад
because IT company also needs financial people managers to run the firm. Only coders can't run the company. Its very obvious
@ignashi7plays401
@ignashi7plays401 10 месяцев назад
Sadly, IT/Software and medical are the only 2 top paying jobs. Thats why in IITs students from ECE, EE, etc. can sit for placements in IT/Sofrware.
@dreadfulbodyguard7288
@dreadfulbodyguard7288 9 месяцев назад
Nothing to be sad about this. @@ignashi7plays401
@harishdeshpande1159
@harishdeshpande1159 6 месяцев назад
Engineering kar k saalon beet jaye, branches k beech ki ladhai khatam nahi hoti 😂
@SeikhSayedAaman-qm6fx
@SeikhSayedAaman-qm6fx 2 месяца назад
Sundar pichai did electrical from IIT and metallurgy from. Stanford
@mariamtee
@mariamtee Год назад
Dr. Umar sounds like a genuine guy, no fake accent, no showing off despite his accolades.
@mihitrajkeshav9137
@mihitrajkeshav9137 Год назад
I am from IIT working in a fintech unicorn and I know how the tech and science has evolved in India over the years. I have worked with many Pakistani people during my research intern in Malaysia and they are really enthusiastic and have willingness to learn , podcast was great and the type of conversation is quite good, wish Dr Saif visit India and exchange his views on startup’s would love to interact with him
@kartikshiroya2270
@kartikshiroya2270 Год назад
For them, Bank is haram so Fintech is not in Islamic dictionary 😂
@mrkeshav736
@mrkeshav736 Год назад
Start-up Pak Kai Logo Ye Sab Samjh nhi aata.. Unhe Keh Gajwe Hind karenge Sab Ghar Kai Bhar nikl jayenge..😂
@rickbarrington
@rickbarrington Год назад
@@kartikshiroya2270how does your comment add value? Please respect the serious tone of this channel and do not demean yourself or cheapen the brand of India
@yashsinghania4112
@yashsinghania4112 9 месяцев назад
​@@rickbarringtonthankyou sir you really corrected the tone
@snkumarkumar1859
@snkumarkumar1859 Год назад
I did my graduation from IIT Roorkee, there were foreign students from many countries and among them Iranian students were the best academically and also socially.
@pratikghosh3499
@pratikghosh3499 6 месяцев назад
My father is also an alumnus of IIT Roorkee
@hirenahir76200
@hirenahir76200 3 месяца назад
​@@pratikghosh3499bhai tumlogo ke papa bhi iit me padhe he 😮 kya baat kar rahe ho
@s9ka972
@s9ka972 Месяц назад
​@@hirenahir76200 IIT were started in 1950s and there are 2 dozen IIT s across India
@xtiros2672
@xtiros2672 Год назад
Can't believe how much impact this man has had on Pakistan and people don't even know him.
@malice-towards-all
@malice-towards-all Год назад
So all Pakistani aren’t Jihadi . He should be running finance ministry as IT head
@madhugreenleaf11
@madhugreenleaf11 Год назад
​@@malice-towards-allexceptions to every rule
@amishbhat3560
@amishbhat3560 10 месяцев назад
​@@malice-towards-allyour wish came true
@rajanpatel57
@rajanpatel57 Год назад
what a wonderful conversation by dr umar. may god bless you. love from india 🇮🇳
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@apoorvamahajan7576
@apoorvamahajan7576 Год назад
Fun Fact: Azim Premji who owns one of the biggest IT firms (Wipro) in India apart from Infosys (which was founded by Rishi Sunak’s father in law). Azim Premji’s father was requested by Mohammed Ali Jinnah to move to Pakistan but his father declined and decided to stay with India.
@shivamji1234
@shivamji1234 Год назад
​@hulagu khan after so many years , I am seeing someone mentioning M&M story . I hope people keep believing in India and its ethos .
@radhika7387
@radhika7387 Год назад
​@hulagu khan Mohammed Ali Jinnah's grandson Nusli Wadia is one of India's richest entrepreneurs.
@KPai
@KPai Год назад
​​@hulagu khan there were 3 founders. Jc Mahindra, kc Mahindra and Malik. The m&m stands for Mahindra and Mahindra (2 brothers)
@manishmohapatra8320
@manishmohapatra8320 Год назад
Character, Loyalty, Integrity, Love for the land for the flag made him what he is right now.
@radhika7387
@radhika7387 Год назад
@@rohand04 That's Ness Wadia. He is Nusli Wadia's son.
@ahaanmisra4892
@ahaanmisra4892 Год назад
Imagine when IT can generate such success for Pakistan... Imran was spending so much money for the creation of a religious center... And the public was thrilled😮
@fahadjawaid3569
@fahadjawaid3569 Год назад
This was very informative. Even though, I am from Karachi but I have always had respect for Shahbaz Sharif. He comes across as a very genuine person. Dr Umar Saif's stories about him was enlightening.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@samitranjan123
@samitranjan123 11 месяцев назад
What a great podcast .This guy is a genius. If he was in India he would be earning 10 million a year and if he was in US he would be earning 100 million a year .
@BABAMANALI
@BABAMANALI 11 месяцев назад
It's not just IT. It's a mindset. I remember when a Pakistani tweeted admiringly about Stanford opening a branch in India and my immediate thought was "This is nothing to be proud of. I'll be proud when IIT opens a campus in California". We don't feel inferior to anyone in the world and it is that confidence, that leads to success. That reflects best in the IT sector because it is the most visible, but we're now working on making chips and have an upcoming defence industry. The seeds for the next ten years are being sown now!
@krishnasachan3768
@krishnasachan3768 Месяц назад
Abe chitiye iit ki branch california mai kholegi toh usko indian institure of technology thodi na bolege
@Mussadi_Lal
@Mussadi_Lal Год назад
Two corrections: IIT Kanpur in Kanpur, UP North India. Now a days IIT Mumbai and Delhi are top choice for Computer Science.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
Thanks for the correction
@avishekbhattacharjee812
@avishekbhattacharjee812 Год назад
IIT Madras too
@TheSpatcho
@TheSpatcho Год назад
The guest was talking about his time probably 30 years ago. IITK was the first CS department in India and was pretty good in those days
@rahuljha2555
@rahuljha2555 Год назад
IITK is a close third. It's very good in term of placements.
@adityadaschoudhury9231
@adityadaschoudhury9231 Год назад
He was referring to IIT Madras, from where Prof Hari graduated but got the city wrong by mistake.
@ChidiyaSethi
@ChidiyaSethi Год назад
Just a small correction:IIT Kanpur isn’t in the South,it’s in UP (North India),I know that has little bearing on the discussion ,Alas!I am not bright enough to add much else except point out this minor matter of geographical location 😢 BTW My niece did Computer Science from IIT and now works for Microsoft in Seattle after spending some time at Microsoft Hyderabad ,so we are not all dumb in this family 😁😇
@paulhall1612
@paulhall1612 Год назад
doesn't iit Bombay have the highest cut off since 2016? why did he say iit Kanpur?
@ChidiyaSethi
@ChidiyaSethi Год назад
@@paulhall1612 Yes,it does ,even IIT Delhi ranks higher than Kanpur ,I guess there are different ranking lists out there,it depends on what one wants to believe.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
Thanks for the correction
@akhilarya0611
@akhilarya0611 Год назад
IIT Madras topped the NIRF Rankings.
@alokghosh54
@alokghosh54 Год назад
Sunder Pichai is from IIT Kharagpur, not from Metro cities. It is really does not matter for recruiter whether from Metro or non Metro, only IIT & talent matters. BTW Pichai had graduated in Metallurgical Engineering but heading a top notch tech company
@muhammadwaqasahmed6558
@muhammadwaqasahmed6558 Год назад
Thank you for inviting Dr. Umar Saif! I have been fascinated by his work for years! He's truly a visionary
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌🙌
@silenthill1035
@silenthill1035 Год назад
FAST CS grad here. I have studied and worked with many CS graduates from India, China and other countries. In my opinion quality of fresh graduates from top universities is more of less the same everywhere. However, the exposure students in India and China get later on within their countries is far more specialized due to the vast industries absorbing those graduates there. Software for medical devices to air traffic control and everything in between is being written within those countries. As a result, within 2-3 years, a good chunk of graduates are able to widen that gap with their peers from other countries with smaller industrial bases. Another point that is often overlooked is that both India and China came up with their own homegrown strategy which was implemented by their own people at every level, because simply copy-pasting what works in one country to another country or giving the responsibility of implementation to expats is bound to fail. Last but not the least, the relentless visa denials for Pakistanis in last 2 decades played a huge role in stifling growth of the local IT sector.
@hanzofunai4238
@hanzofunai4238 Год назад
This sounds like a highly credible argument to make. It is very refreshing to hear an intelligent analysis from a Pakistani. 9 out of 10 times (make that 10 out 10), we Indians come over to Pakistani channels for some cheap thrills to hear the Pakistani lamenting (and with prejudiced or ill informed analysis, not because there is something useful to learn. They all regurgitate the same narrative that they feed each other in endless loop, specially about India (Even the supposed great Mr Prof. Hoodbhoy) The host of this channel is an exception, while not surprised that his audience in Pakistan would also be similar, Thought I'd stand up and applaud a well thought out and cogent argument that makes a case.
@silenthill1035
@silenthill1035 Год назад
@@chokkalingamsivamd6947 I respect your opinion. I think you again missed drinking your morning juice (not orange juice).
@tbh7436
@tbh7436 5 месяцев назад
FAST useless university hai.
@cgkmurthi
@cgkmurthi Год назад
23 IITs, 25 IIITs, 31 NITs, 1 Intl.IIT, 1 IISc, 37 CSIR Institutes, (all these are fully funded by Govt. of India). There are over 40 private technological institutions with very high standards partially funded. Then there are world class private institutions like BITS. All these institutions collectively bring out over 150,000 world-class Engineering graduates every year. (Bachelors, Masters and Doctoral). In addition there are over 4500 Engineering colleges in India out of which 700+ are government funded. The total number of Engineering /Technology graduates in India yearly is about 1,500,000 and even estimating just 25% are these are on par with world standards we have huge numbers. Out of these 25% top students, even if we loose half of these brains to USA and Europe, etc., We still are left with more than 150,000 well qualified young professionals. We are constantly looking to reduce the brain drain by creating opportunities locally. This is how our thinkings go...... Now to Pakistan,... Your forefathers separated from India with two of the most fertile river basins in the world. The thinking was that they can build a better country for the Muslims of (a section of) India - this thinking itself is flawed from the beginning. Anyway past is past... However what's happened to those ideas and why Pak became like a group of mercenary force to fight in Korea, Palestine, Afghanistan, etc. Mother India had 12% literacy during 1947 and just a handful of Engineering/Technology institutions at that time. Today there are over 5000 institutions... This itself shows that India had invested on Education in a big way. Hey young Pakistanis, don't committ similar mistakes like your forefathers have done... Your forefathers never bothered about anything other than Military strength and spent too much on that. Almost all leading businesses in Pak, are controlled by the Military. This single thing itself is the biggest hurdle in any meaningful innovation. The best course of future for Pakistan is giving up Kashmir obsession totally and also stoping the hatred towards Hindus /India. This change will take sustained efforts for a period of over 15 years and is very painful for both the civilians and military in Pakistan, but the alternatives are more painful. Moving towards friendly relationship with India and increasing trade is the only way. Don't steal the well-being and future of your children and grandchildren. Nobody knows what India would be in 2047, yet few things are clear...... Having a Super power as an enemy in addition to sharing a huge land border with it - is this a wise thing??? - think it over. What would be the non military influence of India in future?.
@subhasisghosh66
@subhasisghosh66 Год назад
Very well written. Unfortunately most Pakistani are busy either escaping from the country or converting whatever little Hindus are there to Islam.
@prasantkumar7254
@prasantkumar7254 Год назад
Jai hind. Har Har Mahadev. 🙏
@Johnnyboy-nz9nz
@Johnnyboy-nz9nz Год назад
I agree on most things but kashmir belongs to Pakistan
@prasantkumar7254
@prasantkumar7254 Год назад
@@Johnnyboy-nz9nz LC paar karke aakar lee ja kashmir. Aur ateh waqt thaili vi lete aana....aata le jane ke liye.
@uatiger1
@uatiger1 Год назад
You have every right to be that optimistic about india's future because in this blip in the long course of history, india does seem to have a bright future for now. I dont really care what military establishment thinks about india but I can tell you this, I as a Pakistani, like all other Pakistanis, will never bow down to your kind and InshaAllah we will prevail over you. Thess podcasts should be eye opening for you. Pakistanis have identified all the problems. Now we as a Nation will solve them and then we will be unstoppable.
@farookkshah6344
@farookkshah6344 Год назад
In Eighties when Rajiv Gandhi was vigorously pursuing I T education in India, in Pakistan Gen. Zia was stressing religion Jahad etc. This way india moved forward and Pakistani youth became Jahadi fighters.
@falsifiablerussell854
@falsifiablerussell854 Год назад
Spot on.
@karansolarenergyandsolutio9939
thats y pakistani only produce only terrorist
@holywarrior5719
@holywarrior5719 Год назад
But what was the pak public doing? How can one man Zia decide the future of the country. This means people of pak don’t have wisdom
@malarvannan3400
@malarvannan3400 Год назад
Very true, you have hit the nail on the head. Gen Zia radicalized the Pakistan public and hatredness against India. Today the damage has been done beyond mid course correction.
@kiranmoghe3716
@kiranmoghe3716 Год назад
Rajiv Gandhi has nothing to do with IT industry!!!!! Infosys and TCS etc existed before Rajiv Gandhi became PM. Yes RG allowed computer import.......but still getting permission to import computers use to take 2-3 years after meeting ministers in Delhi 3-4 times. Infosys chairman Mr Murthy said on record that RG era import was difficult and moving computers in office premises was also required govt approval from Delhi....... Despite RG's hindrance IT industry done extremely well because individuals of IT professionals and not because of govt.
@kumarravish1053
@kumarravish1053 Год назад
India’s largest IT company is TCS and they employ 6.25 lakh people as of last financial year
@Vineetrai-ts1oq
@Vineetrai-ts1oq Год назад
And I got there ot more ch**ya than any where else. ex TCS
@kumarsatyam7276
@kumarsatyam7276 Год назад
​@@Vineetrai-ts1oq 😊 L 6 lii Ll6l L L Llll Ill5ll L km L6lkii 5l5 K6llll5llk6
@kumarsatyam7276
@kumarsatyam7276 Год назад
@DeepakVerma-xl9wx
@DeepakVerma-xl9wx 11 месяцев назад
I was about to comment same tha TCS has more than 6 lakh
@Sagar251291
@Sagar251291 Год назад
An Indian living in Singapore in the IT industry. We have started working with Pakistani IT companies for some Malaysian clients. Few things that I would say: 1. These guys are hard-working people and eager to do well. Which is a good start. 2. Labor cost arbitrage is the fastest way to get some space into the international market, and that is how Pakistani companies outbid indian companies. Nothing wrong in that. 3. Key aspects though going forward will be - 2 skills - English speaking / comprehension and Coding skills. Being Indians while we could understand internal discussions between team members, 90% of people couldn't communicate with clients in English at all (which is lingua franca in IT industry). This language gap problem if continues will further impedence to the sustenance of further IT business. My best wishes to the industry. And before I get hate message from fellow Indians, there is enough business in the world for both countries and deriving happiness in someone's misery should not be a virtue of a "Vishwaguru".
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
Interesting!
@nuhuman88
@nuhuman88 Год назад
Astagfirullah, Nauzubillah
@shashankjha8851
@shashankjha8851 Год назад
W comment!
@hamzaasad532
@hamzaasad532 Год назад
​@@nuhuman88 as a fellow Pakistani I'm ashamed of u
@apoorvchauhan6258
@apoorvchauhan6258 Год назад
Chill out dude. Throwing adjectives unprovoked will surely invite hate comments.
@indian9428
@indian9428 Год назад
Pakistan: Minor Hindu girl Sohana Sharma Kumari abducted, forcibly converted to Islam and married off to a muslim man, Court refuses to let her return to her family; Sends her to Dar-ul-aman (Islamic orphanage) till final decision.
@noamansattar
@noamansattar Год назад
And hindu extremist lyncing muslim men for alleged cow sacrifice Not trying to belittle Hindu religion But we need to ignore extremist who act & constitute minority in both religions and both nations. Majority of both of us are broad minded forward looking
@50thanniversary68
@50thanniversary68 Год назад
That’s why I will never want “dosti” with this PoS country named Pakistan! They only want one way street - apni country mein minorities pe zulm and they wants minority rights in other countries
@amrendrasingh7140
@amrendrasingh7140 Год назад
We can’t ignore extremism. And please don’t draw parallels with Pakistan the state of minorities there is pathetic. Don’t go by media in India the population of minorities are increasing and in Pakistan they are almost insignificant now. So please don’t be in a la la land learn to except the reality
@noamansattar
@noamansattar Год назад
@@amrendrasingh7140 so u don't want me to believe media regarding India but u can believe media reporting of Pakistan As India is more then 1 billion and extremist surely constitute a minority so is Pakistans population of 270milliom citizens and extremist are also in minority For example take elections results of extremist party TLP which hardly has 1% of voters. How much percentage does BJP has?
@radhika7387
@radhika7387 Год назад
​​​@@noamansattar Meanwhile Muslims in India are Presidents, Vice Presidents, diplomats, Millionaire entrepreneurs, Foreign ministers, Bollywood superstars and IPL's highest paid cricketers... Can u sacrifice a pig freely in Pakistan ??
@srinivasanramamoorthi280
@srinivasanramamoorthi280 9 месяцев назад
Extremely sensible, to the point and without exaggeration. Listening to the discussions on UPI and startups, we in India realize that we did something right😂
@medhatali6956
@medhatali6956 Год назад
Amazed by the fact that there was not a dull moment in this podcast. The conversation flowed really smoothly. Great job!
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@deevaan
@deevaan Год назад
I have had the good fortunate of meeting with Dr. Umar Saif a couple of times. He brought energy and innovation at the PITB. I wish he had more time to implement all the plans at PITB and ITU. Unfortunately however, these plans could not come to fruition as the government changed in 2018. Public sector's loss is private sector's gain and I pray for this success.
@bondrewedthesoverignofdawn1477
Born too late for sea exploration, born too early for space exploration. Born just in time for this podcast 😁👌
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
@soodabhi
@soodabhi Год назад
well written
@9899890780
@9899890780 Год назад
Well penned
@umar7182
@umar7182 Год назад
@hulagukhan-we3fw not in pakistan. i pay 2600 rupee a month for just 6 mbps plan
@randoanon
@randoanon Год назад
@@umar7182 Woah, I just pay ₹999 for unlimited 200MbPS
@jrs2002
@jrs2002 Год назад
It's actually not only IITs. They are the best when it comes to Engineering and tech. India has also other world class institutions like IIMs, IISc, AIIMS, DU, NLUs, etc that are best in subjects like business. medicine, science research, law, humanities, commerce, respectively that have produced so many global alumni like economists in IMF and world banks and CEOs in MNCs like Coca Cola and mastercard as well as deans and chairs of high positions in universities like Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Oxbridge, etc. Sometimes I feel IITs are more popular outside due to software emergence in the world, when all the other institutions have produced equally able alumni and have equal standards. All these institutions have extremely low acceptance rate, not more than even 1-2%
@SelfSeeker
@SelfSeeker Год назад
IIT means extremely hard working individuals + Supportive alumni’s, of course they are smart as well. They don’t come through a selection process rather an elimination process
@AKB_Abhi
@AKB_Abhi Год назад
​@@SelfSeeker almost all top entrance examinations in India are elimination processes, not just IIT.
@ak99-to1gz
@ak99-to1gz Год назад
Yaar aap log Anna University ko kyon chod dethe ho.
@SelfSeeker
@SelfSeeker Год назад
@@ak99-to1gz they don’t understand most of southern Indian stuff
@SelfSeeker
@SelfSeeker Год назад
@@AKB_Abhi technically yes, but almost all get a seat in an engineering college
@indianboyabhas
@indianboyabhas Год назад
IIT Kanpur is in NOrth India not in South India. In Indian State of Uttar Pradesh. PS- The success of IIT Kanpur is not endowed in the fact that it is in North or SOuth.Just correcting the fact mentioned in the video. Appreciate the VLog.
@jackrulz08
@jackrulz08 Год назад
I think he wanted to point IIT Madras which is more successful now a days
@NativeBharatiye
@NativeBharatiye 4 месяца назад
​@@jackrulz08 so?? U r saying kanpur varanasi iits of Uttar Pradesh are not?? They have the highest patents especially IIT kanpur
@NativeBharatiye
@NativeBharatiye 4 месяца назад
​@@jackrulz08 IIT Madras is also good , especially after hyperloop project 😊
@anutube2360
@anutube2360 Год назад
Just some information from India sir 1. Infosys training centre is in Mysore not Hyderabad 2. IIT kanpur is in a north indian city Kanpur
@basava8177
@basava8177 Год назад
He is a damn intellectual guy. Hats off sir. He knows India and its economy more than myself.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@arijitpalit2756
@arijitpalit2756 Год назад
Skill issue
@sujatabharti451
@sujatabharti451 11 месяцев назад
How he knows India... He is saying IIT Kanpur in South India and he thinks IITs are all about Information Technology.
@hello3524
@hello3524 10 месяцев назад
Podcast of Pakistani’s, but I haven’t heard any word like “Ma sha Allah, Insha Allah, alham dullila”, is more interesting to me 😁😁
@deathslayer5813
@deathslayer5813 Год назад
We NITians are just like those background dancers in a Bollywood movie. We may not be in the spotlight, but we play a crucial role in the grand scheme of things. Shehzaad bhai please give some spotlight to NIT's as well😅 Top NIT's are better than many new IIT's
@paulhall1612
@paulhall1612 Год назад
Scored 99.79 percentile in JEE Mains, i won't be qualifying for nit Trichy, gonna have to settle for nit surathkal 😢
@bholabirder9472
@bholabirder9472 Год назад
Not only that, there are FAR MORE NITians at ISRO than IITians. The latter are seem as more arrogant, and NITians are much more TEAM-oriented. Obviously, ISRO's complex work projects require TEAMWORK.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@iamjustnishant
@iamjustnishant Год назад
I am a IIITian, it is harder to get a seat in CS here then most IITs except the old ones but hame to koi puchta hi nahi (not that we care lol)
@shashankjha8851
@shashankjha8851 Год назад
​@@paulhall1612 the only time one should use "NIT Surathkal" and "settle" in one sentence is if you decide to settle down next to NIT Surathkal for the rest of your life! It's an amazing college, it'll be the time of your life. All the best!
@jays5186
@jays5186 Год назад
Keep up the good work. These discussions help set priorities for the youth... Your impact will be massive on the youth of Pakistan. All the best wishes from India
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@mrkeshav736
@mrkeshav736 Год назад
Ha Jaise India Wale To चांद Pr बैठे हो..🤣
@ShailendraSingh-yw6fr
@ShailendraSingh-yw6fr 11 месяцев назад
​@@mrkeshav736😂
@theopinion-go5pq
@theopinion-go5pq 10 месяцев назад
​@@mrkeshav736Chand par bhi jald jhanda gaadne wale h beta wait Karo 23 August ko 😂😂
@divyanshusingh7124
@divyanshusingh7124 Год назад
At 17:40 IIT Kanpur is not the best IIT. IIT Bombay is the best IIT which has a bit more than 100 seats overall. Also Kanpur is not in South India. It is in North India.
@ayushkumarmaurya668
@ayushkumarmaurya668 Год назад
IIT Kanpur stands first in innovation index of NIRF Ranking this year ,too. Do check please. IIT Madras left IIT Bombay behind in NIRF ranking this year
@goodsong_views
@goodsong_views Год назад
@hulagu khan IISc is not a different league. Research is very field specific and IISc and IITs come within the same ecosystem in reearch.
@divyanshusingh7124
@divyanshusingh7124 Год назад
@@ayushkumarmaurya668 NIRF rankings don't matter. The cutoffs are higher for IIT B. The context in that segment was about top students. IIT Bombay has better students.
@ayushkumarmaurya668
@ayushkumarmaurya668 Год назад
@@divyanshusingh7124 so now , intellectuals have started giving most priority to cut off marks rather than innovation. That's remarkable. This is why our institutions stand nowhere near MIT etc.
@divyanshusingh7124
@divyanshusingh7124 Год назад
@@ayushkumarmaurya668 The context here is not innovation.
@emeraldknight84
@emeraldknight84 Год назад
Umer Saif is an Asset for Pakistan, Thank you for your services Sir. ❤️
@Jujharsingh1669
@Jujharsingh1669 Год назад
Indian states have created SEZ special economic zones where IT companies get land on lease at a very very low rate
@pranaypratik1551
@pranaypratik1551 Год назад
Its IIT Bombay for CSE. The top 100 rank almost exclusively goes there. The mojo of IITians is not the just the education at IITs, it is the experience of tough exams, last week studies, group projects, the hustle and be at the top mentality, every guy has his thing which keeps IITians at the top. It won't matter what work they do after getting out, it might not be remotely related to the education. But the culture engrained there brings out the thinking that i can do this, need be study, hard work, networking, innovation. IITs are like part passage ritual. After that you are ready for anything. - 2016 bath IIT passout.
@ChandraGuptaMourya
@ChandraGuptaMourya 7 месяцев назад
Come on, man you learned by rote to go to crack JEE & go to an IIT. Pakistan is a country of great entrepreneurs. They have IT experts like Ajmal Kasab. This great Pakistani IT expert was a school drop out. He made such a great name for Pakistan.
@harishdeshpande1159
@harishdeshpande1159 6 месяцев назад
@@ChandraGuptaMouryaram ram ji
@user-jw5xf6wi8d
@user-jw5xf6wi8d Год назад
Such a productive podcast. Being a fan of Dr. Umar Saif I feel great to listen to the great achievements that I have known about him from years from his very own mouth. Thanks for having him.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@abidanasreenqureshi8524
@abidanasreenqureshi8524 Год назад
This was the most productive podcast on The Pakistan Experience!!! Loved it!!!!❤❤
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
❤❤
@Xmachines389
@Xmachines389 Год назад
I'm an Indian medical student ...its been a long 2 years since I've not seen cash ....and its true for most of our college students.....abhi toh halat yeh he ki cash ke liye ..dukano me scan karke dena padta he ...aur unse request karna padta he ....cash dene
@NativeBharatiye
@NativeBharatiye 4 месяца назад
So true 😂
@preetmohantuli1795
@preetmohantuli1795 Год назад
Privileged to be listening to Mr Umar. Thanks Shehzad bhai
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@Dadeadman88
@Dadeadman88 Год назад
Another productive podcast! Being in the IT industry myself I can relate to so many things. Good luck to all Pakistani brothers who are working for the betterment of this country. ❤
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
@salmanbasir2115
@salmanbasir2115 6 месяцев назад
EXCELLENT and inspirational podcast! Best part was that the host did very little interference and gave most time to the guest- Thanks. A lot of ideas on IT- please bring guests regarding Agriculture and light manufacturing innovation in future.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience 6 месяцев назад
🙌
@koloco
@koloco Год назад
Excellent session! Impressed by Dr. Saif's grasp and recollection of a wide range of topics.
@ahmad-masroor
@ahmad-masroor Год назад
This is the bestest of the best podcast. This great man! Is responsible for the current 3 billion dollars per annum software export!!!!! Of Pakistan. Whole Pakistani population is now benefitting from his selfless work and contributions towards the economy.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
@ongbech
@ongbech Год назад
One correction, Infosys biggest training center is in Mysore, Karnataka
@pri503
@pri503 7 месяцев назад
IIT Kanpur is in North India, just so you know. Respect for the research you have done, i read about you after watching this podcast. Shout out to the host, this guy is bringing the real Pakistan upfront and I think this will help the think tanks in Pakistan to look at the real issues. Fan... fan... fan...
@NativeBharatiye
@NativeBharatiye 4 месяца назад
It's in Uttar Pradesh 🇮🇳
@kaushaljha
@kaushaljha 10 месяцев назад
This guy is for sure changing the situation
@rajarora2097
@rajarora2097 Год назад
Was at a get together of about 10 friends from college, was surprised to see that everyone’s kids are into higher education, hugely qualified and some studying abroad and it’s not just boys but very happily girls too . India has today more people wanting to do engineering and we have less universities. These kids will change the future of any country they decide to live in
@danyalmuhammad2598
@danyalmuhammad2598 Год назад
I am a UET graduate doing PhD in the US. The beginning of this podcast truly explained my experience that top talented kids go to UETs but the environment there is so dull and demotivating that you come out a useless piece of s***. I got the motivation to apply for US after doing my masters from GIKI. Also, i really enjoyed the last part of the podcast being candid about the fact that if Pakistan does not value talented Pakistanis abroad, no one cares to come back and work in Pakistan. Love your podcast. You are our Joe Rogan👍🏽
@scientificindian1645
@scientificindian1645 Год назад
It is not that I know everyone, but I have the opportunity to hear many successful people from India and abroad. Mr Umar Saif is simply amazing, not only in his pragmatic world view and intelligence but also in his humility and empathy for Pakistan. I am equally stunned with the neglect of such a talent by Pakistan state. it doesn't matter which side of the border he resides in, his contributions to this society and world should be acknowledged.
@ahaanmisra4892
@ahaanmisra4892 Год назад
I loved the ending message by the gentleman!!! Thanks for running this podcast!! As usual you were smooth and well informed!!
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@anthonydsouza5540
@anthonydsouza5540 Год назад
What an impressive professional. I'm surprised that the Govt of Pakistan has not used his considerable talent to build the intellectual capital of Pakistan. Hats off to you Dr Umar
@thejackalhound
@thejackalhound Год назад
Govt. Of Pakistan or the eco system of pakistan is only interested in people that have talent for death & destruction😅😅🤣🤣
@jaspal8jan
@jaspal8jan Год назад
IIT Kanpur is in Uttar Pradesh.. Current Indian Minister of Communication and Technology Ashwini Vaishnav is IIT Kanpur Alumni..
@umaeranwer
@umaeranwer Год назад
Excellent. Dr Umar Saif is a gem. I have an agri tech startup idea since 2018. No assurance i have about the IPP and Certainly I am clueless where and whom to pitch. This is the state of startups in Pakistan
@prashaaan
@prashaaan Год назад
Probably the best podcast episode ihave watched in recent times. This man reminds of our Nandan nilakeni . Very profound knowledge n passion. Thank you
@sydzainraza
@sydzainraza Год назад
Loved the one!! Listened to it on Spotify during my drive today and even though I knew Umar Saif was a genius but this podcast managed to show how he did so much more than any of us knew. It was really heartbreaking to see what "small men in big offices" can do to hinder progress just because of their personal likes and dislikes. Thank you for bringing him on the podcast Shehzad! This was great
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
@manishmohapatra8320
@manishmohapatra8320 Год назад
Everybody keep on talking about IITs but they forget our NITs our top state engineering and management institutes like NSIT, DTU, IIMs.
@naveen5302
@naveen5302 Год назад
just a correction The qr codes in India have always been unified, but businesses like Paytm and PhonePe give the user the qr with their company name on it.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
Thanks
@durgeshsingh5220
@durgeshsingh5220 Год назад
Credit should go to South of India to spearhead the IT boom and capitalise it in late nineties. Other states in India drew inspiration from the eclectic success of Silicon valley in Bangalore, Hyderabad and thereafter Pune. Also IT tycoon Narayan Murthy, Aziz Premji unleashed campuses which were best in the world... It's the timing that led to success and inspiration and eventually the India's growth Story. Ps: Narayan Murthy's daughter is wife of UK Prime Minister..
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@HafizeQuranAwesomeMunir
@HafizeQuranAwesomeMunir Год назад
Most of mid level executives in IT companies of South India are from North India. They are much more innovative than the "rote learner's" from South. Having more engineering colleges doesn't mean u get the quality lot. Vinod Khosla & Satya Gupta are examples of how north Indians have contributed more to more global software & semiconductor industry than the likes of Satya Nadella or Sundar Pichai.
@durgeshsingh5220
@durgeshsingh5220 Год назад
@@HafizeQuranAwesomeMunir That's an irony that North India doesn't have great infrastructure and hence these folks have to travel down to South. Noida, Gurgaon is no match to the IT infrastructure in Bangalore & Hyderabad. Kudos to the visionary leaders like SM Krishna, Chandrababu Naidu. North in the meanwhile had visionary leader in the form of Alooji, behenji & Totichor's and hence the migration.... Disgusting North Indian leaders!
@abdullahbasit80
@abdullahbasit80 Год назад
It's amazing to see so many IITians enjoyed the podcast and I appreciate their efforts in global IT market.. Keep making things easier for us 👍🏻
@pm6127
@pm6127 Год назад
Half of these are lying lol..
@lightboi9752
@lightboi9752 Год назад
Are you Indian?
@abdullahbasit80
@abdullahbasit80 Год назад
@@lightboi9752 no
@trusfratedbunny2215
@trusfratedbunny2215 Год назад
IIT is not just about Enginerring in comuter science or IT field only, so all iitians not work in just IT sector.
@AbhishekVerma-jk2tt
@AbhishekVerma-jk2tt Год назад
Fascinating discussion. I've been in IT field for 18 years now, mostly US. We get back end projects, but we often don't hear the business cases for it. Hearing dr saif describe the business case, how it was implemented and challenges is an amazing insight of IT infrastructure implementation in the 3rd world. Makes me appreciate our Indian IT overhaul and accomplishments even more
@RanaQasimTaj
@RanaQasimTaj Год назад
Dr Saif You are an hero. Educated Pakistani loves you and respect you❤
@jaspal8jan
@jaspal8jan Год назад
Pakistanis don't help Pakistani.. I recently lived as PG in Pakistanis home for 3 months in Netherlands, that Pakistani doesn't keep any Pakistani as PG, he only takes Indians for last 8 years..
@Technology-of-You
@Technology-of-You Год назад
Wow
@GlassHalfFull13
@GlassHalfFull13 Год назад
What a brilliant pod cast! I was hooked from the very first minute and I thoroughly enjoyed every bit of it. Shehzad, Thank you so much for bringing in such genuine, intelligent individuals who are worth listening to and learning from.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌🙌🙌
@chimtiazafzaljutt9392
@chimtiazafzaljutt9392 29 дней назад
A lot of appreciation for Umer Saif.
@shoaz0611
@shoaz0611 11 месяцев назад
This is first time I could do patience to go through almost whole podcast. Good one..
@deathslayer5813
@deathslayer5813 Год назад
Education system of India has been growing exponentially. For example many of the online teachers here in india are not less than celebrities, they have their own fan clubs. 😂
@F-Khan491
@F-Khan491 Год назад
That's amazing ..
@amitabhabanerjee11
@amitabhabanerjee11 Год назад
​@@hamzaasad532Do I need to tell you that is the problem with your views?
@ShailendraSingh-yw6fr
@ShailendraSingh-yw6fr 11 месяцев назад
Galat fahmi mt paal india ka education sbse worst hai smjha exaption 4 - 5 college 😅.
@malice-towards-all
@malice-towards-all Год назад
Digitalisation of land records was a challenge in a state and county like Punjab/Pakistan . I am impressed by the efforts that this team has put in . 🇮🇳🇮🇳
@amishbhat3560
@amishbhat3560 10 месяцев назад
Btw this hasn't happened in India yet. It is going on these days.
@-rate6326
@-rate6326 6 месяцев назад
​@@amishbhat3560 they have been digitalized in UP.
@MehrozRAna
@MehrozRAna Год назад
The podcast is highly praised for its brilliance, and there is a strong belief that the individuals these kind of people should be involved in government to enhance and refine existing processes.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
@dhananjayshinde6407
@dhananjayshinde6407 Год назад
I have watch many podcast on this channel, he seems very knowledgeable, factualy right person on the matters of India. I feel Dr. Umar is not talking on the base of media or news, he actually knows what's happening.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@RohitKulshreshtha
@RohitKulshreshtha Год назад
Although IIT alumni have definitely done well, Satya Nadela who is often quoted as an example of an Indian CEO is not an IITian. He’s often credited with turning Microsoft around in a post-Ballmer era. Neither is Shantanu Narayan who is CEO of Adobe. Neither is Ajay Banga, ex-CEO of MasterCard.
@AS-jo8qh
@AS-jo8qh Год назад
Even though I am an indian I feel patriotic for pak whenever I see Pakistan podcasts like your channel and pakistonomy.🤣🤣🤣🤣 I really really want ki apka mulk bahut tarakki kare. There's a lot to learn from pak people like self criticism. We neighbours need to learn this trait from you guys. Love from India bro. All the very best to you and your country ❤
@JitendraYadav-jp1gj
@JitendraYadav-jp1gj Год назад
But why most of us feel sadistical pleasure in other's misary on both sides
@PiyushKumar-ru6io
@PiyushKumar-ru6io Год назад
@@JitendraYadav-jp1gj I know people do feel pleasure seeing Pakistanis struggling, while we ourselves at home have several things to worry upon especially our poverty. The only reason I think of is the antagonistic nature of Paks establishment towards India since day 1. Their policy to bleed India with a Thousand cuts have worked in Karmic form against them. That sure is a sight to look at!
@infynvn
@infynvn Год назад
We have democracy where alot of criticism , I guess you never emerged from your shell this is why you are claiming here that we have to learn from pakistan 🤡 even we have so many people who criticize our education, goverment, industry, system etc, I guess you are a chapri who don't even know about his own country.
@mangopeople1941
@mangopeople1941 Год назад
Bhai tum jiyo hazaro saal
@sid8285
@sid8285 Год назад
Indians have been self loathing and doing self criticism for decades. Pakistanis started self criticism and introspection after 75 years when it is too late for course correction.
@AliRaza-fz6mz
@AliRaza-fz6mz 11 месяцев назад
Highly appreciate Umar saif sb. Phenomenal work by PITB during his time. Please, utilize Arfa Karim IT tower to its full potential. Every floor should be lit day and night with software houses providing services 24/7. Please recommend it when you are at a post of authority. Hopefully, see you soon as part of the Punjab govt in the next setup. 👍🏻
@rahulhukeri6282
@rahulhukeri6282 11 месяцев назад
just love your guest. He can be your "Nandan Nilekani".... by the way, I am a product of the Indian IT industry. I loved his comment about NASSCOM and IT ministry...
@Sarah_0112
@Sarah_0112 Год назад
I must say, its heartbreaking to hear firsthand how someone trying to lead us to progress had his hands tied. Excellent podcast as always. The interviews keep getting better and better, Shehzad! Im also loving the fraudcast. Very cathartic
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@muhammadkhizersadiq3029
@muhammadkhizersadiq3029 Год назад
Probably my favourite podcast so far! Loved every second, thanks for bringing on such accomplished peeps!
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
❤❤
@rajeshroby4390
@rajeshroby4390 11 месяцев назад
Iam an Indian and I love this professor I mean sane people should represent pakistan . Really inspired
@anjalicgirl
@anjalicgirl Год назад
It is intellectual gems like Dr. Saif who are the best hope for Pakistan's future.
@AmirAli-bv6ic
@AmirAli-bv6ic Год назад
Great experience Sir Now after Politics series This is the way forward for us😊🥰
@demockumentaries3210
@demockumentaries3210 11 месяцев назад
There should be a Coursera/Udemy style certificate given to each person who watches this full podcast. Mr. Saif is a university and this podcast was an education! Well done.
@2sridhark
@2sridhark 11 месяцев назад
Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed, Professor of Political Science at a University in Sweden, is on a visit to India. What he is saying is revealing. One thing that stands out is that he sees a lot more readership in India than in Pakistan. Knowledge is valued, appreciated in India. Now that this is translating into monetory benefits, even people from low S.E strata want to give their children best education, which means an English education. They don't mind spending a large share of their income to get their children educated in a good school. We can see the result of this already. The maid working at my mom's place in Chennai has a son who is a civil engineer working in Singapore! Such stories are becoming commonplace. India is going through an education revolution and will become a Knowledge economy in the next decade or so.
@tanupriya83
@tanupriya83 Год назад
The guest is very good. But I want to congratulate you on your thoughtful and intelligent line of questioning.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌❤
@nitesh8117
@nitesh8117 Год назад
One small correction other than the IIT Kanpur one. Infosys training institute is in Mysore and not Hyderabad. On the example of company distributing free double-roti to inflate their GMV, these companies should be discouraged because these are doomed. In India, multiple such start-ups have folded down who were just looking at topline, never bothering about bottomline and unit economics especially in Food-tech where the whole industry folded-up to leave 2 big players from 10+ because they were not looking at unit economics. The start-ups who are the top draw in Indian start-up ecosystem, Zerodha & Zoho etc, never took VC money and they went on to change the paradigm.
@divyanshusingh7124
@divyanshusingh7124 Год назад
28:20 this is insane. Even an engineering student at IIT or BITS would probably know the most prestigious journal of their subject.
@kaustubh14jr
@kaustubh14jr Год назад
Top engineering BTECH students in IIT publish in top conferences.
@PanakaluPoonakam
@PanakaluPoonakam Год назад
I am not even a Physics graduate but I know PRL (Physical Review Letters) is one of the top journals to publish research in Physics.
@junaidtariq471
@junaidtariq471 11 месяцев назад
What a insightful podcast. Pakistan needs Saif Umer and this podcast shows how PTI’s incompetency derailed some of Pakistan growing system. Have been supporting Imran khan before but his ridiculous arrogant decisions have really put Pakistan in a pit hole. No wonder IK admired Usman Buzdar. What a shame and letdown.
@PakHatf
@PakHatf Год назад
Finally . . a long awaited guest and what a guy he is 😇 quite insightful discussion n May ALLAH give him more n more opportunities to serve Pakistan.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@SAS-qq5ce
@SAS-qq5ce Год назад
I have to say, I was so wrong on a-lot of things about him. Intellect, humility and courage. I really appreciate the efforts you did for punjab and wish you get an opportunity to do the same for whole nation and as for ghias saab again thanks for inviting these amazing people on ur podcast. Love you
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@aayushraman
@aayushraman Год назад
Although an Indian, I am a big fan of this podcast. You guys are doing a great job.. hats off!
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
@ramananvenkataraman4594
@ramananvenkataraman4594 Год назад
They belong to microscopic minority snd make no differencw. Rest is all la-ila-illalah-gazwa--e-hind types.
@K.Tabreek
@K.Tabreek Год назад
I am so impressed with this man, and am just feeling so sorry for what he had to go through for giving this country so much 😢
@anindian4412
@anindian4412 Год назад
After listening to your podcast, understanding state of education in Pakistan, lack of proper infrastructure, lack of regulatory mechanism and lack of systems, our successive Indian Governments have started looking super efficient because we don't have the basic issues like yours..Systems may not function perfectly because of human element, but we are grateful that there are robust systems, regulaton in place..BTW I would suggest you to deep dive into Indian higher education system since most Pakistanis are not much aware of the ecosystem. India has the largest numbers of engineers as well as the largest number of engineering education institutes and infrastructure in the world. India produces 15 lakhs Engineers per year. There are top notch institutes like IISc(Indian Institute of Science) 23 IITs, 31 NITs (National Institute of Technology), 23 IIITs (Indian Institute of Information Technology), 32 GFTs (Government Funded Technical Institutes) Technology Institues Funded by state Governments and there are huge number of private institutes and Colleges providing technical education. Many of these premier institutes are autonomous even if aided by Government..There is a huge ecosystem. Also the alumnis from these institutes donate to their alma matter to build research centers, labs and other facilities. There is an active industry participation and incubation facilities for startups within the institutes. Pakistan is very egocentric society who always look at westerners for the development templates. You need to look around your neighborhood. Within Asia also you will find lot of case studies.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
Thank you!
@deepakdave1225
@deepakdave1225 Год назад
Tata Consultancy Services - TCS me. approx. 6 Lacs Employees he......us me 35 % Ladies he....
@Bibhu26
@Bibhu26 Год назад
This particular episode is a goldmine. Thank you so much for doing this, Shehzad.
@ThePakistanExperience
@ThePakistanExperience Год назад
🙌
@ramamurthyir8710
@ramamurthyir8710 11 месяцев назад
I.Ramamurthy It is also a fact that Hindus settled in European countries USA are loyal to their immigrated countries develop the economy of their countries, friendly with everyone in terms of Sanatana Dharma. Because of these high qualities Indians are enjoying high respect in foreign countries. Hail India and Indians. Jai Hind
@Sadamh2o
@Sadamh2o 11 месяцев назад
wow, what a smart & super genius guy, he is MashaALLAH.
@AshokKSingh82
@AshokKSingh82 Год назад
Too much Islam to hide their Hindu past is the biggest reason behind the downfall of Pakistan. If Pakistan would have persevered their Hindu population then there would have too much connections between them and Indian Hindus and bilateral trade would have been around 100 billion dollars per year. All ancient Hindu temples in Pakistan if not destroyed would have brought 20 billion year dollars through pilgrimage from Hindus from India. But everything was destroyed and now nothing can be done now.
@randomdosing7535
@randomdosing7535 Год назад
Ashok we are quite a mixed race. I myself am a descendant of Hindu Rajputs and Turk Muslims. Yes, they are people who try to hide their Hindu past but it's stupid. On Hindu population, Pakistani land was majority Muslims even in 1947 and Hindus got migrated. There's substantial Hindu population in Sindh and it has not declined, it's a myth that Hindu population is declining. However I'm very concerned for their rights as i confess that there are huge problems. Hopefully we will be able to get things straighten out. One thing both Indians and Pakistani people misconceive is that Pakistan was made for Islam, no it was just made for a large minority which has certain geographical concentration. Pakistan not giving due rights to it's minority population is antithetical to it's own principle of independence. On india pak relationship, actual hurdle is not Hinduism or Islam, it's the Kashmir, we don't have much issues apert from Kashmir question. Other issues also stem from Kashmir question. Indians are afraid to admit that Kashmir is the anamolic state that they are trying to cling to. So called terrorism in Kashmir was actually a freedom struggle, BUT i don't know why the heck it was actually veered towards terrorism such as Bombay attacks, which boils my blood. [Btw buht se log apny esy relative se distant krna chahty hen jo unko consciously or subconsciously lower standard or caste ka lagta hai, aur esy relative se associate krna chahty hen jo higher status ka ho. Ab Pakistani aur indians mentality in this regard right hai ya wrong but Pakistani indians ko formar wala relative ki tarah treat krty hen aur Indians Pakistan ko later waly relative ki tarah even ke Pakistan is waqt in a really bad state]
@randomdosing7535
@randomdosing7535 Год назад
And I'm not here to fight rather discuss. So I'm pleading you in advance that in reply u will be civil too
@rajendrawandhare9114
@rajendrawandhare9114 Год назад
@@randomdosing7535 aapko kayame pakistan tak Kashmir issue chodana nahi,India need not bother as pakistan has put itself on auto distruction mode on single issue & they should never do so. Best of luck pakistan
@AshokKSingh82
@AshokKSingh82 Год назад
@@randomdosing7535 Only 2 to 3 percent people are mixed race and rest are common Hindus who were converted through greed or force. Even if you are mixed then which race should identify you? If a Pakistani girl goes to Turkey and marries a Turkish man then what her kids will be called? Arab has understood the Islam as Arabic is their mother tongue so they are defying every command given in Quran and Hadees and following the path of humanity despite too much anger from their clergy. You were brainwashed to hate Hindu Kaafir but the Arab who funded that brainwash campaign are now close partner of same Hindu kaafirs. And same Muslim Arabs don’t respect Pakistan or it’s leadership because they know Islam is not going to help their future and they are moving away from Islamic fundamentalism. Dont you feel cheated and stupid? Pakistan has go back their roots and leave Islam on mass then only you will be respected again and things will start improving again. And it is America that doesn’t want Muslim to become modern and in recent interview MBS revealed it was US who asked them spread radical wahabi ideology in Pakistan, Afghanistan and other Islamic countries. Even the radical literature was came from US only. Now think how you were made fool on the name of Islam. Learn Arabic and understand the reality of Islam. Don’t follow any desi Mullah as they are the biggest munafiq.
@Heydosjevsjdnev2737
@Heydosjevsjdnev2737 Год назад
@@randomdosing7535 Agar Pakistan minorities k liye bana tha toh sirf Muslims q gaye? What about Buddhists, Jains, Jews, Sikhs. Sabse zyada jo log mare the 1947 me were Sikhs. Sikhs ko maar maar nikala gaya Punjab se. You are trying to whitewash your history. Why is it called Islamic Republic of Pakistan and not Minority Republic of Pakistan. Pakistan was made in name of Islam.
@dontmindme6972
@dontmindme6972 Год назад
I'm an IIT alumni, and everything is student run and self-study or self training in iits. College provide platform and students train themselves to be best, and yes iits don't allow politics, individuals run in elections, but they are not political. On UPI, i've not used any cash in last 3 months and very few cash in last 1 year
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