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Building My First Automatic Custom Watch

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DIY project of building my own automatic watch using parts I got from eBay and AliExpress. I pretty much stopped buying watches that will stay as is. Every watch I look at I try to estimate the customization potential, so I can make it my own.
The movement is a Seagull ST2130, 28800 bph, a clone of the ETA 2824-2.
The case is a homage to the P. P. Aquanaut with sapphire crystal.
The 31.5mm dial is homage to the HydroConquest.
The hands are vintage Fifty Fathoms homage.
The case is not build exactly for the 2824-2 / ST2130, there is a stem height issue that I still need to fix. I'm not a watchmaker, I had here a few mistakes.
My main mistake was to take a case that declared as 2824 AND Miyota 8xxx compatible. It can't be, as these two standards don't have the same stem height. Choose only a case that is 2824/2836.
The assembly took about 90 minutes, mainly because of the stem height issue.
An update to this project is at:
• My First Automatic Cus...
0:00 - Inspect parts
0:47 - Install dial
2:18 - Install hands
6:37 - Install in case
11:28 - Inspect work
Music: "Happy Life" by Fredji
All footage for this clip was shot using Canon 7D mark ii + Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro.

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17 авг 2024

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@nitinknight 3 месяца назад

I really appreciate the difference ways you used household items to fix the watch, especially the seconds hand!

@nenjack 7 месяцев назад

It's a clever way putting on the seconds hand.. something new to be learn.. thanks for the video

@Freshstylez78 Год назад

Genius idwa with the second hand 🙂 thanks for that !!!

@alinmoldovan4679 3 года назад

I liked very much that even though you didn’t have the right tools, you have made this video and the watch looks great. Thank you very much for doing that and wish you the best I am a subscriber.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Thanks Alin :) My latest videos are with better tools.

@19hummer73 3 года назад

I like the way you put the second hand :-)

@rons7555 Год назад

👍🏼 good video, man !

@shortattentionspangarage1312 3 года назад

I had the same case fitment issue when I built a watch around the 8215 movement. The stem would rub against the case and eventually broke. Turns out I needed to shim the movement back away from the crystal somehow to make the stem line up better with the hole. I swapped out the stem and tossed the case. Now I'm looking for a case that's better built for that movement, not some "fits all" case like you mentioned.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Thanks Matt for your comment. I wish they would stop selling these "fits all" cases, this is misleading. Eventually I drilled the hole with a 2.5mm drill, and gave up the screw-down crown and the water resistance.

@hannuhanhi183 2 года назад

Same issue here. Bought a case which is supposed to fit ETA2824, PT5000. The case looks similar outside than Alon's, however the locking ring is white plastic. The movement goes too close to the crystal and the stem doesn't line up leaving a 0.5 mm ish gap between the case on the crown side. Somewhat pi...ed off at the moment. Have to fix it somehow. Maybe a custom resin printed locking ring which lifts the movement up somewhat.

@AMERICANPRIDE1100 3 дня назад

It’s all pretty straight forward except the seconds hand is a nightmare for me

@rolandtutorial3377 2 года назад

Beautiful rebuild watch 😊

@stalin1015 3 года назад

This guy has a stable hands

@mikebutler3846 3 года назад

Waiting for the parts to make my first watch after 30 years of collecting! Using a Miyota 8215 movement.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Good luck!

@mikebutler3846 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary Thanks! Should be fairly straight forward.

@TheAechBomb 3 года назад

@@mikebutler3846 how did it turn out?

@mikebutler3846 3 года назад

@@TheAechBomb Oddly enough, I ordered a different set of hands for the watch about two months ago, and they haven’t arrived yet! AliExpress is slower than usual sometimes. I have some different hands but the ones that I am waiting for are better for the dial that I plan to use.

@guansun1571 2 года назад

Nice watch ,nice job .

@suilegew 3 года назад

At least use finger cots. Then you won't get any hand grease/oils on the dial and movement. The seagull movement might have needed a clean/oil before mounting, they are notorious for being dirty/not properly oiled. Then you will have longer service from it.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

You are right about the finger cots, check my later builds, I used full gloves, and also better tools. You are not right about the seagull movement. I have 7 of them now, they are very stable accuracy, some I have for two years now. When they will need service, I'll replace them in 55$ a pop.

@suilegew 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary if you had serviced them they might have lasted 5-10 years before they need a service and life will be prolonged significantly. Also the accuracy (beat error, amplitude, rate) can improve significantly with a pre-service. Just a friendly suggestion...

@suilegew 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary if you don't have knowledge or tools to do a service, then it's fine.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

@@suilegew I agree that it might improve the longevity, but a service will cost me more than the product itself. After tuning I get less than 2 seconds off a day, winter and summer. The ST2130 is very capable movement.

@suilegew 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary I never said it's not a capable movement, I have it on my shopping list. Just pointing out that sometimes they're not correctly serviced and oiled and have a tendency to be a bit dirty. It's one of the places where they save cost.

@MeetDaveG 3 года назад

Fantastic. I've been watching to make my own.

@greggusan 3 года назад

Nice vid, but wish it included the tightening of the dial feet to the movement. I've seen vids with the eta 2824 which this is a clone of, but the tightening screw for the seagull seems to be in a different place.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Thank you. Never had a problem with wrong placement of dial feet. The st2130 is fully compatible with the 2824-2. The date is always aligned to 3 and the stem. You are right, this is an important part of the build. I'll include it in future videos.

@greggusan 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary Thanks for the reply. I had no problem with the dial feet location, I was only wondering where the screws are on the movement to hold the dial to the movement. But I found there isn't a screw, but a little claw that swings out before you put in the feet, and then you swing it closed after you've attached the dial. Somewhat different than what I was originally looking for, but very easy to use once you see what's going on there.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Check my newest video, I'm showing there releasing and tightening the dial feet. There are no screws, the trick is sliding ears.

@kurttevan 2 года назад

Will the movement fit a 2836 case?

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

Unfortunately no. The stem alignment is different. The 2836-2 stem sits 0.40mm further back from the dial, and that is a big difference.

@ghassanalkanaan512 3 года назад

Nice job ..

@vincentwillommet2779 3 года назад

Great video! I don't know if maybe you can help me: I bought a 2824-2 movement for my first diy watch. Do I need to add the dial ring? I don't understand when/if it's needed. Thanks for your help!

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Yes Vincent, the ring is needed. I learned the hard way. It's a spacer for the dial and a limiter to the keyless works. After this project I did two more, check my latest videos. I used the ring in all of them.

@vincentwillommet2779 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary thanks for your replay. that's really kind of you!

@fuzzs8970 2 года назад

Hi. Thank you for your video. However I would have advised not to handle the watch parts with bare fingers. Do you know a way of writing on the dial? Want to write my name on one.

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

Indeed in my other assembly videos you'll see that I use gloves or finger cots. About writing on the dial, search eBay and AliExpress for "custom logo dial".

@pedrosardinha3711 3 года назад

What were you using to install the hands at 2.31? I'm curious

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

That is a refill of a pen. Not my best moment... On later videos you will see that I used better tools.

@alinmoldovan4679 3 года назад

I just finish making my own watch for the first time. Is amazing 🤩. It took me 4 hours 🤭. after it was finish. The watch stopped and I don’t know why? Tomorrow I will open it again for a check.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

That's great! If the movement is new, usually the problem is that the hands are not parallel to the dial, so they cross paths and stop. Look at it from the side, check the spacing between the three hands.

@alinmoldovan4679 3 года назад

Tanks a lot for your help

@alinmoldovan4679 3 года назад

I am so happy for your video’s. I hope you will reach a lot of subscribers and so you can make more videos

@th3maz1ngwotchannel10 3 года назад

Hi, excellent video, thanks for sharing ! One question : Are the tabs and screws used to secure the movement in the case given with the case or did you by them separately ? Thanks

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Thanks! There is no need to buy them separately. You get them with the case. One time I got them also with the ST2130 movement.

@glenh4971 2 года назад

Ok, I have watched all your video's on building a watch using the ST2130 movement. My movement just arrived. I have a question though. I ordered a case that is advertised as being for NH35, plus Miyota, plus ST2130 movements. The case is a dive style case. Does this mean I am going to have problems like you did with the movement being too thin for the case and the crown stem not lining up so it binds up in the crown tube? I am just wondering. The watch case will come with a plastic cushion ring for the ST2130 but nothing to raise up the watch movement to line it up with the crown tube. The movement did come with the metal ring that goes under the dial. Sounds like I am going to have problems with the build?

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

The metal ring of the movement is needed anyway, to keep the dial parallel to the movement, it is not a spacer that you can get with different thickness. After the dial is attached to movement, put it inside the case, and check if the stem hole of the movement is centered to the stem hole of the case. If it's not, like I had in this build, you have two options: one is to get another case, and the second is what I did, give up the water protection and the screw down crown, and drill the crown tube in the case to make it wider. In any case, do not continue the build if the holes are not lining up.

@glenh4971 2 года назад

@@AlonNahary Ok, thanx. We will see what happens.

@kanondegeminis8747 2 года назад

I have a question, how do you know what size dial to buy to make sure everything is compatible???

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

Each case should state the dial size fit. This case for example had "About 31.6mm", so it was ok using a 31.5mm dial.

@muaxayansaleem9808 3 года назад

Hi, have you ever tried putting a stainless steel bracelet with end links on this watch. I am thinking of buying the same case but want to put steel bracelet. Just wondering if you ever tried that.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Hi Saleem, I tried a stainless steel bracelet, there is another video, an update to this project, see in the description. I don't have a bracelet with a matching end links to this case, if that is what you're asking. This watch is a strap monster!

@muaxayansaleem9808 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary I think I am going to give it a go, thanks

@biggur5 2 года назад

Hi I'm currently swapping out my movement from one of my reps but I broke one of my prongs on the back of the dial face because they would not fit in simultaneously into the 2813 movement. One thing I did notice is you did not use the metal ring. (This is why I searched for this video. I'll check out your other videos) great video

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

Use the ring, it is very important, I always do. Good luck with your build.

@biggur5 2 года назад

@@AlonNahary thanks. I broke one of my prongs so I may have to use a tiny amount of very thin double sided tape to stick down the ring where the prong broke. Unless I order a new dial which I dont want to have to do.

@Marc-yj6gn 2 года назад

I use to create my own watches, assembling spares from Ali, even if I have more usefull tools, I would just recommand you to use gloves or fingers gloves... It's not expensive and prevent fingerprints !

@fabriziodutto7508 4 года назад

Nice job! I've not seen the shortening of the stem, it was fitting right at the first attempt?

@AlonNahary 4 года назад

Thanks. I wasn't able to do it under the camera, needed three attempts. Fitting a stem to a screw-down crown need to be done carefully.

@simonb2268 2 года назад

Great video! Have you got any recommendations on the tools needed for this or a kit to buy?

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

The basic tools you need, AliExpress level are ok for beginners: case opener, rodico, silicone pad, casing cushion and a set of 3 hands press. I never tried kits; I choose the pieces myself with careful size matching.

@laluslolus6974 2 года назад

hey cAN PLEASE FROM WHEERE YOU ACTUALLY ORDERED THIS ITEMS LIKE IF YOU CAN SHARE THE LINK IT WOULD BE NICE OF YOU..........

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

RU-vid will not let me put links, but you can search AliExpress for the following: "st2130 movement", "watch square case fit 2836 2824", "2824 hands", "2824 31.5mm dial". You will see the items right away.

@laluslolus6974 2 года назад

@@AlonNahary the thing is I need a quartz movement and which is compatible with the case and the dial you used in this video thanks for replying and making such guideful video thanks a lot.....

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

Sorry Lalus, I know nothing about quartz watches. None of these parts will fit a quartz movement.

@jensenesq Год назад

Nice video. How is the movement? Compared to the ETA 2824-2? Next time use rubber finger tips 😉

@AlonNahary Год назад

Thanks! It's working for two and a half years, very accurate, less than 3 seconds a day. Very stable. I have one watch with 2824-2 and there is no difference. On my other videos I'm using better equipment and finger tips. Check them out :)

@GabrielSkolderblad 3 года назад

no finger protection?

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Yeah, you are right Oskar, I can't believe I did that. In the clips I did after you will see I use rubber gloves.

@greggusan 3 года назад

I'm doing my own build using this same case and movement right now. But can't seem to get the stem back in. When removing, I pulled the crown out to the time setting position (the furthest it can be pulled out) before pushing the release button and removing it. Now I can't re-install it. Did I remove it incorrectly? Any advice as to how to get it back in? I've tried putting it in with the release button pressed, not pressed, moving it around, gentle persuasion, but it just won't take.

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

This is the right way. Pulling the crown in the time setting position. I had your problem in the past, and the problem was that the outer vertical wheel, the one for the winding fell in (towards the dial). Pick it with the end of the stem, align it with the other vertical parts, and you will be able to put it gently in. You will need all the patience you have...

@greggusan 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary It's hard for me to visualize what you are suggesting. I'm not very experienced at this. Do I need to remove the dial or remove any pieces to do this?

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

@@greggusan Try to put it in gently when the dial faces up.

@alinmoldovan4679 3 года назад

I don’t know how to find always the dial to fit the case? The size 🥺

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Each case sold, is specifying the range of the dials it can accept. If this range is not written, don't buy it. The case in this project can take dials from 31mm to 31.8mm. The dial I choose is 31.5mm.

@alinmoldovan4679 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary Thank you very much for your time and a good explanation

@willlong2486 3 года назад

What diameter band fits this case?

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

The diameter of the case is 41mm, but this is a complicated shape case, so it depends where you measure it. The strap width is 22mm.

@Jamesylabs 3 года назад

What size was your dial? Will a 31mm dial work with this case?

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

I used a dial of 31.5mm diameter. The case is declared as "About 31.6mm". I wouldn't try 0.6mm difference.

@luke005 3 года назад

What a great job!! 😁👍👍 Is it possible to have the links you used to but all the items? Thanks

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Thanks Luke. RU-vid will not let me put links, but you can search AliExpress for the following: "st2130 movement", "watch square case fit 2836 2824", "2824 hands", "2824 31.5mm dial". You will see the items right away.

@luke005 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary ok, I'll try like that..

@luke005 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary thanks

@MOLILO1967 2 года назад

The arms is what I will like to see with close up

@ExtraLeben 3 года назад

Great vid :) build my first 💯% custom mod today :).. keep it up

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Good luck! Share it on your channel.

@ExtraLeben 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary you can watch it tonight on my other Channel budget watchateer :)...

@salutcafartecafarte 3 года назад

Hello! Good job Whatvis the other pilot style watch?

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

Thanks Piero! Pilot watch is on my plans. At the moment some parts are hard to come by, international shipping is not fully restored.

@salutcafartecafarte 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary and what is the model of the other watch on your vid? The pilot style watch!

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

@@salutcafartecafarte The other pilot watch is a San Martin. I love it. Search AliExpress with these exact words: "san martin 42 pilot". I got the PT5000 brown.

@salutcafartecafarte 3 года назад

@@AlonNahary Thank you. It looks very good! The lume last a complete night? I don't know if we could change the back case for a display one? And also there is a similar watch branded as Addies dive, at half the price. But the san martin might be better!

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

@@salutcafartecafarte The San Martin has a display case back. It is much better than the addies. It also has a better movement with smooth second hand. The lume is great, it is actually light the area around it, 7am and still glowing.

@mytheen2129 Год назад

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@Martin000-45 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, it's really helpful! Did you have to cut the movement stem to fit to the case & crown?

@AlonNahary 2 года назад

Thanks! I had to cut the stem, it was out of the camera so this part is out of the clip. Check my meteorite watch, I show there how to cut the stem.

@joshuawalker3134 3 года назад

Where do you buy a case with a back window as I’m making my own and want to see the inside

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

AliExpress and ebay. Search "2824 case", you will find several options with back window. Please read the description of this video for more details. My main mistake was to take a case that declared as 2824 AND Miyota 8xxx compatible. It can't be, as these two standards don't have the same stem height. It means that the stem is not exactly in front of the crown hole of the case. Choose only a case that is 2824/2836.

@ORMA1 3 года назад

It's great!!! 👋🇮🇹

@user-ch6vu3ph9g 3 года назад

👍👍👍

@eggsII 3 года назад

Where did you get your parts?

@AlonNahary 3 года назад

On AliExpress and ebay, whatever works for you, search for 2824 dial, 2824 case, 2824 hands, and st2130 movement.

@TheAechBomb 3 года назад

I get all my parts from 'Miuksi Official Store' on Aliexpress, and while their quality isn't always 100%, if you have all the right tools they've got a lot of good parts

@ordinaryguy1192 3 года назад

How Rolex is made and sold for €€€€€€€€€

@TheAechBomb 3 года назад

you can find rolex-esque parts, but anyone trying to buy a rolex will know the one you made is fake

@danielteegarden8982 3 года назад

wrong...................

@TheAechBomb 3 года назад

what's wrong about it?

@samueltheweber 3 года назад

@@TheAechBomb Daniel here more than likely wanted attention, without contributing words to his oh-so proper way.

@swissbud6900 2 года назад

are you serious?! you need to use better material and other method... no professionnal and no good for your movement... no exemple ! please no reproduct this in your house !!