I have a suggestion with the switch + sftp issue: If you connect the QNAP SFP+ to the 10gb port on your UDM Pro, then use 1 (or more) ethernet connections from the UDM Pro to the Ubiquiti Switch, you should be able to have multiple devices on the udm pro switch being able to use their full 1 gigabit to connect to the new nas. If you have the ports free, you could use multiple ethernet cables between the UDM and the ubiquiti switch and set it up in link-aggregration, this should also allow multi-gigabit connection from your other devices.
Great video Tom. You have convinced me to get the same system. Getting ready to shoot a documentary running at least 3 cameras in 4K and I can only imagine how many terabytes of storage I will need and when it’s time to edit I will need a fast solution. Can’t wait for part 3
This along with part 1 and 3 make the most fantastic overview of setting up a relatively complex bit of kit, thanks so much! Love your enthusiasm, and what seem like great results for video editing. I've been looking to get this NAS for a while now so this is super helpful.
I concur. Not doing so would lead to the whole daisy-chaining switches thing, which I'm sure Tom knows is bad (I think I've heard him mention he knows it's bad). Leave your big Unifi switch as your main 'access' switch, make your UDM Pro a kind of 'core' switch, branching off with the SFP+ ports into the new QNAP which will be a secondary 'access' switch, and of course the other Unifi 'access' switch. This would be far more ideal than daisy-chaining them!
Just a couple of suggestions: - lz4 compression will help improve the performance of your transfer speeds and help save drive space. I'd turn that on. - if you can install the OS on the pair of ssd drives and create that pool first, then add the hdd pool, you may also benefit from a performance boost. Looking forward to the next video with some numbers! Edit: Would you also be able to include drive temps and sound level in your follow up? Would really appreciate those data points.
the SFP port on your standard switch may share an i/o with a RJ45 port. You may have to unplug and possibly disable that port for the SPF port to work.
Hey Tom, rewatching this video as planning my own QNAP NAS purchase soon - still love the content. Just wondering now why you didn't choose to connect the QNAP switch to the UDM-Pro using 10GbE SFP+/DAC cable? Then connect USW either to that switch, or directly to the UDM using a different port? The SFP+ port on the UDM-Pro is 10GbE, just like the QNAP switch, but your USW isn't... Cheers!
I saw on another video where someone installs the system on 2 NVMe SSD and not on the HDD. Would be interesting to know if it gives faster readspeeds and if it's possible to do that afterwords, without loosing settings or whatever else..
To solve your SFP issue without buying other hardware, you can link up the Dream Machine Pro to the QNAP using your DAC cable, since they both have SFP+ ports. Then use a gigabit ethernet cable between the QNAP and the non-pro switch, or between the non-pro switch and the UDM-Pro. It won't really matter though, everything will run at the same real-use speeds :) If you're running out of ports on the USW, you can get a Ubiquity 1GB SFP copper module for one additional port, but at that point you can just use the QNAP ports directly.
The UDM-Pro has 10GB SFP+. Also you don't want to use the switch on the UDM-Pro since all 8 ports only have a 1GB backplane to share. On Unifi for some reason you need to log into the device and manually set the speed on the SFP/ SFP+ ports.
Great video Tom! I'd suggest maxing out the RAM on the NAS to unlock the full power of ZFS! Also you could think about running some virtualisation on the NAS so that you can use VM's for testing etc. You might even want to run link aggregation to your desktop to see if you can boost the already phenomenal performance still further. Might be worth sticking another two SSD's in the unpopulated drive bays so that you can add more shares to the faster storage. That way you could run some kind of caching server for DNS or web content / software updates which would take some of the strain off your internet connection? You might as well use the full power of the beast!!! Is it possible to farm the final rendering / upload of your videos out to the NAS? If so you might be able to make use of the NAS here too?
It seems that 10GbE is getting much more affordable and a lot easier to deploy. This was all plug and play, and with these 10GbE capable RJ45 ports, it all just slots right in with no hassle. Great stuff.
Hey. I just built a similar setup to yours, the difference is that I created the first pool on NMVE SSDs, and I also bought a thunderbolt 3 to 10GbE adapter but I'm not even close to editing any video with this system. I'm using a new, fully maxed-out MacBook pro max and I can't play back an HD video on an HD timeline. Do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
@@ItsMyNaturalColour In Windows its almost impossible to use SMB1 it's been so thoroughly deprecated. My Seagate NAS is old enough that this became an issue.
@@PWingert1966 actually you can, even in the lastest windows 10. just go to add/remove programs->add windows features, select SMB 1.0/cifs, reboot and you are good to go. but, it is a security risk...
So you will have to get a SFP+ switch to get access to the extra speed, it might be possible to create a password by creating an anagram of something obscure about you that only you know.
Hi the sfp port on the end of unifi Dream Machine can only use port 7&8 or top sfp is up link and bottom sfp is down link you can not have anything in all 4 ports it’s goes 7&8 or sfp up and sfp down also nice video just wish I had to money at the moment to buy a nas for security purposes and for connecting when at work
I was going to mention - you created your username on the NAS as 'Tom Smith', where your username on the Mac is 'tom'. Surely if you created the user on the NAS as just 'tom' as well with the same password as your Macs, you'd have a bit more of a seamless experience? Just a thought.
possibly everyone does as they see fit At least I chose to opt for the motherboard with two intel xeon processors and as storage I use ssd from samsung of 2tb and 4tb Being also the most reliable resistant in any condition of use as storage On the operating system version I opted for a 1tb ssston from kingston and as an operating system I opted for a windows 8.1 pro all have up-to-date updates including drivers and paid antivirus with license And in total ssd I put around 60 ssd all connected by pci sata board with 8 ports
Prova a creare una TL ricca di contenuti e lunga almeno 2 ore, 120min.......e osserva se FCX collassa..... 😳....questo perchè qualsiasi software di editing rallenta molto quando le TL si arricchiscono.....
I love the part where on your browser you have the BPH folder or better known as the "best pornhub" favorites folder ......homie pornhub has a favorites system you dont have to bookmark them rofl
At 32:33, in the create shared folder wizard. The setting "Performance Profile (block size)" if you are working with large video files, you might want to increase it. Make it higher than 128Kb. a much larger block size will increase the overall storage performance for large files
Great video series!! I had to setup nfs. With my synology to get final cut pro working with the Libraries. Also, i've been using the users and group tip and trick for a few years now which is a huge time saver great tip you shared. I'll share another great tip. I also right click the desktop on osx. Open view options and enable show item info. It will then show the free spaced on all the hd's and volumes connected to the mac. love servers Keep up the great content!!
regarding overprovisioning, a NAS, even a consumer one, has more and sometimes much more disk usage than a desktop hard drive. This is due to regular array maintenance alone not counting NAS usage itself. Thats why the over provision can be beneficial. However if you are using enterprise grade hard drives, even used ones, or really only have not intensive use, you can minimize the overprovisioning
I don't know how to thank you honestly. I have this EXACT setup, and was having a very frustrating time. Not done yet, but this has already made it significantly less stressful, and I've gotten further than I think I would have otherwise already. Thank you!
Awesome video as ever Tom. Very excited to see this in my sub box this fine Friday evening. I’ve got to say I never knew you could add network drives to your login items that is going to change the way I use my Mac when I restart it. Thank you so much for that tip. May sound stupid but it’s gonna make a huge difference to my day to day working and saving time when I want to jump straight into the edit. Again great video and loving this new series. Have a great weekend!
great vid, looking forward to the next one, fascinating how much effort you make on these videos, performance/etc. Totally agree "fit for me" vs "fit for you" and people do need to understand the difference - tbh im much too lazy, i'd be very "its good enough for me and my standards, feels right is good enough", but really appreciate you making the effort to move that measure to be more objective
Great video Tom. I need to hook up 4 computers to this system. Do I need a switch or can I use the 10gb, 2x 2.5gb, and 1 of the USB ports on the back each to different computers?
@@ItsMyNaturalColour Yes, I am fine, all good thanks Tom, you're videos are amazing, loved your content since before i joined RU-vid. from the times when you had your iMac G3s Lol :) glad to see you still posting after all these years
I don't think I would have set it up that way for your situation. If everything is backed up and you have shared video editing 2TB M.2 SSDs in RAID 1 with storage in RAID 10.
BTW .. if all I were using (that NAS) for is video editing, what you're describing is a scratch drive, then 100% SSDs with sufficient space for your work project.
(9:52) I agree, since a lot of apps would ask users to input the IP address, or allow users to bookmark sessions/presets that expect a static IP address since that's easier to code for.
Hi Tom, just a thought about getting SFP+ 10G between the UDM and QNAP switch. The UDM has a 10G SFP+ port which your currently using to connect to the USW-16-GEN2 though limited to 1G. Connecting the UDM and USW with an ethernet cable instead would free up the SFP+ port for you and then should be able to use this to connect directly to the QNAP Switch. Would still be 1G between the two devices as it is now but would enable the 10G link.
Regarding compression, the CPU in that NAS is plenty fast to handle compression/decompression duties. Enabling compression could give you faster transfer rates, since more data gets crammed into the pool's write speed and pulled out of the pool's read speed. E.g. if the data is 4:1 compressible, the transfer rate could be up to 4x faster, though likely less than that in reality, and probably running into the limits of 10Gbe for sequential data. However if your data is incompressible like video, then yes it does not make sense to make the NAS try to compress it.
If mounting a network volume/share at login isn't something someone wants to do, they could of course just put an alias of the volume on their desktop and open it before launching FC. One could also create a small script, again aliased on the desktop that first mounts the volume and then calls FC. These solutions would enable someone if they choose, to eject the volume when not using FC and then easily/quickly mount it again before launching into FC.
Great video as always Tom, Shocked at how easy that was to set up. I just set up a Synology RS816 and you set that Qnap up allot quicker and easier than I managed with mine and I only have 2 4TB drives. I am impressed.
Thank you! It probably seemed a lot more slick than it was, video editing magic at it's finest while I sat there pondering what to do next haha! In all seriousness though, I find both Synology and QNAP excellent in terms of setup wizards, onscreen help / info / guides etc. I like that these systems with such great capabilities are fairly accessible now.
Completely agree with you. My biggest issue was I was trying to use the photo station app app, ate up all the CPU horse power, was only after 24 hours I found out what was eating the CPU up lol
Tom you always have such an exciting and interesting presentations!!!! Another Saturday treat for me. (i am a day late tuning in - been working on the road) I may never get to the point of installing a NAS but if i do then i will know how!!! Thank you Tom and blessings to you and your wonderful family from across the pond.
Shouldn't you be using a crossover cable between two like-devices? Maybe that is why you aren't getting the switches to communicate, also, you would need to set the switchport mode for the port to be a trunc port for them to pass on your VLAN information
@@NMY556L Yes, you are right... Auto-MDIX ports will automatically adjust depending on which type of connection it detects... Whether he has that feature on the switch or not, I'm not sure.
Slightly OT but worth noting. I ran into an interesting issue with one of my NAS units. My Laptop that I made the initial connection with is a Dell G5. Dell in their infinite wisdom has worked a deal with Microsoft to add bit locker functionality to all their machines regardless of whether they are running WIN 10 Pro or Home. On My NAS which I connected to from this G5 with the Bitlocker encryption enabled I setup an iSCSI drive using one of the available hard drives. This resulted in the iSCSI drive being BitLocker encrypted using the key for the G5! Now iSCSI is not a terribly stable connection and drops quite often. Easy enough fix by removing the connection in the iSCSI manager and reconnecting. Here is the fun part. every time I reconnected; I need to manually (because I am not using Win 10 Pro I can't save or read the key from a USB stick thanks Dell) re-enter the 40-bit encryption key from the G5. The best part is that any other machine I am accessing this drive from I must also use the G5 key. So, I usually leave it disconnected until I need to use the Backup facility for the documents drive from windows which can only use a mounted lettered drive!
that's weird, i haven't seen any dell or other brand of computer that had factory encrypted disk with bitlocker. unless there is some weird option in the tpm section of the dell bios, bitlocker can usually be removed by decrypting/disk wipe/tpm disable etc. iscsi being a block protocol doesn't care about what data goes in or out, the prompt for the key is coming from windows as it detects bitlocked data. but again bitlocker has to be explicitly enabled for each additional drive by the user, so it's super weird that the iscsi disk was also encrypted in the first place, without you doing it. oh well, i guess dell has a new surprise for everyone...
@@giornikitop5373 I discovered it when I had to upgrade the SSD and the tech said it was BitLocker encrypted and asked if I had the key? I had to go to my Microsoft account and gen a backup key for the computer. I called Del and they confirmed that most of their consumer-grade machines running windows hoe come with encryption via BitLocker enabled since 2016. Normally it runs in the background and no one notices but in certain situations it needs to be undone for things like upgrade replacements and backups. It can be turned off but then you must decrypt the drive to transfer the information and then re-encrypt it. Upgrading windows to Pro can be an issue too I was told. The problem is that since my machine does not have Windows Pro version I can't save or read the key from a USB drive and must type it in every time.