Building Rubber Wheels in Scrap Mechanic VS Trailmakers 

I recently made a very similar creation in Trailmakers. If you combine one of each suspension piece on each "spoke" it reacts much much more smoothly. Also, helicopter engines work better as they let each "wheel" spin independently of each other but you need to add another helicopter engine on each wheel spinning in the opposite direction to keep the creation from flipping over due to torque.

Hope this becomes a series.

I love this idea of attempting to make the same thing in diffrent games,i think i only saw it on this channel when you tried to build a walker in scrapmechanic,but since it dident work out you tried trailmakers. Hope this becomes a series!

"Now that i am alot shorter i need to be less longer". ~Scrapman 2023

wait a second, how the hell are you not over 6 mill at this point? the quality of these vids are so much higher than a lot of top 10 subbed people. you 10000% deserve more!

I think you went from one extreme to another with the suspension in Trailmakers. First it was too stiff so you lowered the stiffness. However, in putting it down to 0 it compresses all the way therefore making the two blocks on the end of each spring touch each other and act as a static object. If you found somewhere in the middle, I think it might be smoother.

Lol, I thought I was hallucinating at first. Nice very subtle duck in the smoke at 4:29. Clever editor ;)

1:00 check out the foam insulation block ;) very light, very grippy!

Scrapman, do you remember that flexy rock crawler truck in one of your YDIB videos? I have an idea. Try this Suspension Wheel design and combine it with an improved Rock Crawler system and make the ultimate Rock Crawler.

this should be a series "one build 3 games"

In Trailmakers for more grip/ground contact u need to add a system that let the front/back of the vehicle to tilt left and right independently, like a very low powered rotating servo to connect the back/front of the vehicle

Got a notif of the vid, saw the thumbnail, and got the idea that it will be the IoD showcased creation, it will be interesting if there will be another physics similarity test and maybe the suspension-glitch is the next one

You had build something similar in a YDIB episode. There it was piston wheels instead of suspension. Similar driving experience as well.

This was a cool concept for a video and I would enjoy seeing other ideas created in 2 or 3 games and compared.

This is so weird! I tried this the other day and I couldn't figure it out lol. Great video Scrapman!

that duck scared the crap out of me lmao I was like wtf is that nightmare!!!!!!

You should do a 10-minute creation in scrap mechanic and then the same 10-minute creation in trailmakers and then in instruments of destruction

As you saw with the Trailmakers build, mechanical blocks have a quirk where they become progressively more unstable as more of them are chained together or sometimes even just based on the order in which they're connected. For example, if you have a piston leading to a steering hinge leading to a wheel, it will behave differently than if the order was a steering hinge leading to a piston leading to a wheel. Or, if you stack a bunch of suspensions on top of each other, they basically turn into spaghetti, despite the fact that they're only supposed to compress vertically When it's just a _couple_ mechanical blocks, it's usually not an issue, but it really becomes apparent the more mechanical blocks you have in the chain. That's why everything was spazzing out when the build was a servo to a hinge to suspension to another suspension, plus the steering hinge in the middle of the vehicle body

Just finished watching the other video, thanks for the link SM

I really love the scrap mechanic one. I´ll try to rebuild an RC basher-truck with that concept ^^

Great video by the way. I think you might want to check out the workshop to see what other people have made of the same type. I thought it was such a great idea I made one myself in trailmakers.

I didn't notice it till recently but you build on the lift like all the time, and I never do specifically because of the 90 degree build grid. honestly as long as you don't go crazy it'll load and save fine

great video. i like to see you try to make the same weird real life machines that you made, but in other games than the original video. because i knew some of them would work greatly the instrument of destruction!

Nice cool idea

4:28 THE DUCK!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

this episode feels rly nice

I have wanted a comparison video of the 3 games for a while. Thank you

4:27 this duck konfused me so much. lol i think the trailmakers version has so much potential to improve. like widening the friction pads or adding the scapmechanit type of secondary wheel.

Cool idea keep it up scrapman

It'd be fun to watch you build stuff out of Lego.

You may need the weights directly on the wheels for them to affect the suspension, Trailmakers seems to have issues to transfer weight forces through joints. Remember the problems when you tried making a trebuchet

10:39 try using sensor blocks, They only have 3 sides to connect so it wont weld together if you face it into other blocks

Scrapman just realized why off-roader/crawler-type vehicles have low tire pressure! Less stiff sidewalls and tires=more area of grip=more traction.

I hope this becomes a series too

this is basically how softbody physics tires work in videogames.

This is the ultimate crossover

i really like the red outline on your gear webcam nice change

I kinda want to see a video of him explaining the pros and cons of each game. Not exactly to determine which game is better, but to see which one COULD be better based on the player.

A change that might help would be increasing friction pad area so it will be more like high friction panels instead of high friction spokes if you add 3 pads on each side to make the "panels" 9x9 it might work better

Multiplayer monday, where you can only use the maximum power on components

perfect video

I love the cross-collar between different games it’s rlly interesting to see all these different creations :D

4:24 looks like when sonic is running in the game 😂 you know hen he just moves his feers in a loop, nice idea!

4:30 that duck actually scared me as i wasnt watching closely

Spring suspension wheels is the smoothest ride possible in which powered

i blinked and that duck made me think i was hallucinating for a second :P

Hi ScrapMan! Keep it up!

I love your videos scrapman I’ve been watching since I was a kid

17:23 "Now that I'm a lot shorter I need to be less long" - Scrapman, Master philosopher, 2023

Dampening is a system that affects how much a joint shifts or wobbles after it's received an input or interaction. So more dampening means it should move less, less dampening means its more free to bounce and shift. In this case the more damper helped because it kept the wheels in contact with the rock more so it could climb easier. More or less damper being useful depends on what you're doing I guess, a higher biased damper would help with climbing but lower bias would probably be better for descending and going over rocks and rough terrain at speed. Usually for off-road in games I go with soft suspension, and upper middle damper. Been in a rock crawler jeep and it does feel like many go for higher damper but let the wheels have plenty of swing. The arms flex a lot but you hit like a sack of flour.

I love this idea of comparing the different games. Scrapmecanic build was my favourite

MM challange: Single point of contact vehicle race. Presumably you would have to make a self balancing pogo stick, or a spikey piston ball that only contacts with the ground with one piston.

Do a Multiplayer Monday with these wheels! It would probably be a fun challenge. In Scrap Mechanic though obviously

Do a race challenge where you need to use max power gas or electric engines. Do which one would be more fun. I can already see Kan building a gear reduction.

I kind wanna see you guys try do evolution drone battles

You should do a race with this wheel for multi-player Mondays.

this needs to be a multiplayer monday

Sick

Try making the wheels bigger so you can add more spokes at different angles and fill the gaps in the wheels by taking the blocks out the whole length of the wheel

Scrap mechanic cardboard plane dogfight? I think it might be cool!

rolls nicely

The new editor is amazing

4:56 is exactly why Axolot needs to add controller support or throttle control on these engines. You're either flat out or you're feathering the throttle...

reminds me of that early form of continuous track and dreadnaught wheel with the paddles

Nice editor by the way

I believe Scrap Mechanic definitely took the win here.

Y’all should do this as an evolution challenge

i love your videos

I think that the Scrap Mechanic vehicle performed the best.

Scrapman sounds like he's marketing scrapmechanic and trailmakers lmao

Me slowly dying inside when Scrapman called stone blocks metal blocks 💀💀💀

Seeing this wheel its probably good too in survival as mobile base, since the weights will be distributed on all area and its ideal for ATV one xD

Love your video keep up the good work One question at 4:29 on your video why is there a duck running

Nice

4:29 legendary duck moment

I think that the pillagers one might do better if you make the friction pads wider like an extra one on each side of the pairs

Multiplayer Monday rock crawling Olympics with these wheels

in scrap mechanic i made similar wheels using shocks and boots for the grip surface, setting bearings to 30 and 60 degrees

Cool

I like comparing these games. What about wheels made of building blocks?

for constant input in trailmakers i put a distance censor with any block infront of it

i love scrap mechanic n trailmakers

"There's not a lot you can do in max power Scrap Mechanic". Sidenote: I'd bet a very large sum of money that whoever built those "soft wheels" also played Algodoo at some point.

I think the scrap mechanic one was the best too.

I just saw the duck at 4:30 I thought it was In game lol

the idea is how u know it is scrapman

If you put some down fouse on it and re-enter it in the rock wall challenge. Would the cork screw tracks wheels work in this.

"now that I'm a lot shorter, I need to be less long" that's some good English!

higher stiffness is also for heavyer creations ;D

I think i can speak for some that we all will watch you no matter what

-"Scrap mechanic was not build for max power" Poetic

Try making cante-lever style suspension

I just realized that your dwarf looks like you xD

Scrapman use the rubber wheels in a multiplayer Monday video

Scrap mechanic feels like scrap, where trailmakers feels like plasteel (plastic-steel) which is what I believe the trailmaker blocks are made of, but they're hollow so they weigh what they do

4:25 i had to replay that 3 times because my brain was confused why the cars dust partacles felt like they were running at me

I think that the stiffness is the other way round meaning the suspension will be really stiff not soft

multiplayer monday Idea, max power engine only, but have a maximum weight, so it has to be really lightweight

The duck tho😂

It grips so well 💀