Building the Ultimate D&D Table(TTRPG): Part 2- Hidden Dice Tower Upgrade!

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The kickStarter campaign has now ended, thank you to all of those who backed the project! I was able to make a limited run of product that I hope has made everyone happy.
However, after fulfilling this very limited number of orders, I found that even when optimized, it still takes a good amount of time to cut and print each one. In an upcoming project I will be redesigning/ improving and creating an all (or nearly all) digital option that will have the advantage of a much lower cost as well. Stay tuned for updates!
In this episode, I refine and upgrade my D&D table and the hidden dice tower design into a more compact, reliable and scalable product. By using 3d modeling software (fusion 360), 3d Printing, resin printing and laser cutting technology, I am able to bring these concepts into the real world.
Thanks for subscribing and watching this Dungeons and Dragons Build and following along with the TTRPG adventure!

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@3boy779 2 года назад

the mini table looks like a stool "hey I thought there were dice towers?" "there are, your sitting on them"

@Geeksmithing 2 года назад

Would that make it a stool sample? 🤪

@Protocol-X 2 года назад

You should look into putting pin holes on the side that can be slipped into, instead of sitting them on the top of the housing. It would look nicer as well as be more stable.

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

That's a nice idea, the only issue is that having the pins separate from the button is already a difficult problem and if I were to move them further down, it would exacerbate the problem... I might try one prototype out though.

@satibel 2 года назад

@@MoreToolsThanSense might work if you put a pivot (or a catch) higher than the button, making pin farther away retract properly. having a fulcrum higher than the button means you don't have to press as much to make the pins travel further.

@MichaelJKyzer 2 года назад

@@MoreToolsThanSense They don't need to be separate. Just make two holes or recesses on each side on the inside of the tower base. It will add additional rigidity to the tower when it's extended. Literally no mod to the tower - just some little recesses in the base for them to click into instead of loosely resting on top of the base.

@IronskullGM Год назад

@@MichaelJKyzer I was thinking the same thing but having them ride in little grooves on the inside of the tower wall till they fall into and lock into the holes.

@ChadBergeron Год назад

@@MichaelJKyzer That was my thought too. Just a few divots for the pins to sit into instead of on top of a flat surface.

@jakefairley6993 2 года назад

It'd be nice if the ramp acted as a stopper when the tower is hidden, that way you could store your dice in them when not in use

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

I have it this way for the original wood ones, problem is that you then need a huge face plate that sticks straight up when it's open. I'd say if want to store your dice inside, just bag em!

@vincentvoort7494 Год назад

@@MoreToolsThanSense Sorry to use this comment, but I couldn't find a way to message you. I'm a physically disabled DnD player and am amazed by those towers. Rolling dices is a struggle for me, so I resorted to digital rolling. But seeing this, I think I could roll dices with it! Is there any way to get templates of the dice tower? I would only need the inside "box", where you throw the dice in and it rolls the dice.

@seanbirger3036 Год назад

I've been super distracted by other happenings but I am trying to get a printable model together. In the mean time, lots of stand alone dice towers can be 3d printed or purchased that should be able to fill your need, good luck! @@vincentvoort7494

@Cytrus- 6 месяцев назад

@@vincentvoort7494 You can actually find dice towers online, and probably cheaper

@eris902 2 года назад

Looking good! My first instinct would have been to try my hand at spring loading them as well. Though given the people I know, I'm 100% certain that someone wpuld see it as a coast, place a full glass on it, and release the spring as soon as they went to take a drink

@RetTulcira 2 года назад

It would be funny tho

@satibel 2 года назад

tbh it seems like a nice way to store glasses, instead of having the dice tower

@eris902 2 года назад

@@RetTulcira Oh very amusing, but also a pain as my peoples tend to drink things that will stain

@BuriedFlame 2 года назад

Heh. Fumble the roll, splash damage.

@lotusqueen440 2 года назад

remember, the more tools you have, the more sense you can have while still having more tools than sense.

@Geeksmithing 2 года назад

Dude this is fantastic! Congrats on the Kickstarter! Def earned a sub!

@brickdaddiy 2 года назад

Geeksmithing just recommended I come watch this video. And I did. Love it. Subbed. Can't wait to see more

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

Thanks! That BoTW Playhouse is nuts! love it.

@ralexcraft990 2 года назад

This channel is criminally underared

@Slushi0 2 года назад

I know I was expecting like 10x the sub count fro the amount of effort

@hucz 2 года назад

@gklecker Год назад

Very clever execution. I'm impressed with the final design. I can appreciate the number of tries it takes to get a design just right. If you have a particularly challenging idea, let me know. I would love to help (no charge). I've helped a LOT of people and invented a lot of things.

@InvictusSolDerauma Год назад

My dude! You are a god at DIY!! I’m hooked on your channel, and you’ve inspired me to quit all my jobs and start making!

@artofdominique 8 месяцев назад

dude, your stuff is awesome! 🤩🤩🤩 I also want to add how you keep at it until you get it the way you want is inspiring and uplifting! 🥰

@4321Enjoy 2 года назад

from part 1 to part 2 there is an insane increase in audio quality! good job man! hope you get flodded with subs and sponsorships!

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

Thanks a ton!

@VGInterviews 2 года назад

As a fan of cool stuff I love seen these crazy builds As a maker of cool stuff I love seeing the process and mainly the parts where you show how you needed to keep making new prototypes until you finally decided to use the spring design, that eureka moment when it finally works is the best thing ever and makes everything worth it and who knows maybe what you learned for the previous prototypes will be useful in a future project!

@WhoTookThomas112 2 года назад

This is a great project! Looks good, fun idea, all in all a project which I might pick up myself one day. One thing I would change over the current design is for most pop-up things I'd probably use magnets instead of some pin mechanism. this allows for some fluidity in the movement and it also be easier to engineer a bracket to mount magnets on rather than a pin mechanism like this, which would require many prototypes before you get it right (like what happened here). also the magnets might be easier to hide than a pin mechanism, so you dont have to worry about designing for example a pop-up tower around one prop.

@thecreep7147 Год назад

Got this randomly recommended and seeing him pull up the dicetower got me flabbergasted

@lamborn3D 2 года назад

Don't underestimate your Ender 3 friend, those things are capable of some pretty impressive feats. Especially for the price.

@insertpun4963 2 года назад

As undeniably awesome as these dice towers are, for anyone without quite these capabilities can I suggest routing/carving out cavities next to each player and lining them with felt, to make an in built dice tray

@lezen106 2 года назад

While it could look quite crazy to use that level of engineering, spending and time just to get a dice roller tower straight for tabletop RPG, guess what : I totally DIG IT !!. Engineer myself this is amazing and slick as fuck... Well done bro

@JonnyBoysVlog 2 года назад

Just backed! Super excited for this!

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

Thank you for your support!

@bushyman477 2 года назад

Never seen this channel before, but this is damn awesome! Can't wait to watch more of your content!

@AidenCorvas 2 года назад

Amazing. Just amazing. Great job they look awesome.

@echodelta2426 2 года назад

This is awesome. very clever idea.

@n8thegreat9121 Год назад

A few modifications to the alignment base would make a difference. At the top of the alignment base, cut sunken wells for the flex stop pins to rest in, so that the tower stays still in the center and the pins are hidden. You could also cut tracks into the walls of the alignment base for rounded flex stop pins to ride in, making a smoother movement.

@rhettdunn8788 Год назад

Use your laser to cut a template for creating a hole in the table. Hog out the majority of the hole with a jigsaw, and clean up with a router and flush trim bit for a perfect square. Well except for the corners which you can clean up with a chisel or just make your design have a rounded corner that matches the diameter of the flush trim bit.

@DrHQuinzel Год назад

Also, best fricken closing line ever 😆 We call D&D Imagination Night

@happymushroom9729 2 года назад

Part 3 will be something like adding holograms and voice acted dialouge for npcs

@henrywong668 Год назад

Ai npcs

@benvalle8253 2 года назад

Amazing can’t wait for the web shop

@mountainviper3842 2 года назад

What a shame all this just for your players to call out and have to postpone another week lol.

@TheKnightArgent Год назад

Thumbs up for Excitement Fists.

@sonofabinch 9 месяцев назад

The Bouncing Souls? Those F-ing New Jersey mooches!

@MoreToolsThanSense 9 месяцев назад

They only go on tour so they can eat other people's food!

@Darkarious773 Год назад

You could also sell the cad files on sites for minis and 3D platforms such as thing a verse etc. double up on your money and cut down on your personal stores of print mats and the like.

@xboxx2783 2 года назад

Very cool!

@CyFr Год назад

I kinda like it, but I think the overall design could be a bit better in some areas.

@eastoforion 2 года назад

very cool engineering challenge!

@DarkshiftGaming Год назад

Awesome work man! Keep up the great work!

@RetTulcira 2 года назад

This is sick

@lexibyday9504 Год назад

I'm still going to make a massive terrain table with special themed paths for the dice to roll down because things like that are what excite me for tabletop gaming

@burgesskj 2 года назад

Brilliant work, thanks for sharing.

@agilemonk6305 8 месяцев назад

Just such great work. ❤

@w4rhammer_tau993 Год назад

Here’s an idea, make one that when you push down on it, it flings up then the head comes off by itself

@BiologyIsHot Год назад

You can also add a raft with supports instead of printing the part itself directly as a first layer. Meaningful amounts of elephant foot should be very avoidable

@KazeTheStorm 2 года назад

I'm pretty new to 3D printing, but I'd say infill probably helps with the stability of the swing arms, since they'd be more solid

@rreevv. 2 года назад

Any dude who just buys a laser cutter gets all my respect

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

I asked the wife about it and she said, "get the big one". (And that's how you know you've got the right partner)

@rreevv. 2 года назад

@@MoreToolsThanSense it’s so perfect

@foldionepapyrus3441 2 года назад

Very neat finish and not at all the mechanism I would have used, which just goes to show there are many ways to a similar result. For myself I'd rather there wasn't a ring pull but a rotational lock - that ring pull drops enough that small based and heavy enough objects will just fall over and if you ever run a pen and paper over the top you will have a bad time. Where the rotational lock concept can have a flush finish and be a nearly perfectly smooth table top (if you care to put in the machinist time and skill to hit really tight sliding fits even an invisibly smooth finish to the insert (though that is excessive)).

@raistnox 2 года назад

You said that the holes in your table top are too big for the final iteration of the dice towers why not glue in some hardwood strips along the inside edges of the holes and file/sand to correct dimension. Seems like that would end up being less work overall and if you use a contrasting color of wood could be quite beautiful.

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

A fine idea! However I am planning to make custom Veneer that will match the table and also fill the (pretty small amount of) gap. This will also let me refine the process so that I can offer hardwood veneer as an upgrade for future customers.

@lou5543 2 года назад

The build is great and I'd just recommend some type of grooves on the inside that the tower can slide into the housing with to give it less jiggle jiggle and more smooth stability, but 100$+ just is too much for me! Would be more then the current table and materials Ive got so far :( Happy to see more of what you build!

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

not a bad idea, would likely be tough to add without making the case a good bit taller and thus, more likely to bang into your knee or foot.

@lou5543 2 года назад

@@MoreToolsThanSense What if you did it more in a widening sense? So on the inside of the housing if there were like channels/grooves, or on the tower part that pops out, if you did them you could have them slide directly into placish. Kind of like the idea of how brackets or such on a keyboard tray work

@brianatkinson1398 2 года назад

9:48 “that’s what she said” lol

@TownScaperVT 2 года назад

Great Job

@mythrilsentinel1 9 месяцев назад

Looks grand! Out of personal tastes for a taller tower; can you extend the tower a bit to allow for multiple baffles an a greater opportunity for randomization?

@bappyplays 2 года назад

These are awesome, went straight to your kickstarter to buy some, but for a single sheet of laser cut acrylic and some screws it's way too expensive sorry. Appreciate that thick acrylic isn't cheap and you need a margin to make it worth while. Maybe a cheaper mdf/ply version that could be painted by the buyer would be able to bring the price point down to a more accessible level as most people who want to install a pop up dice tower are going to want 4-6 of them lol. Great project though.

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

Thanks! Yeah, I know the price point is a bit high. I hope to make some out of wood in the future but to be honest that won't lower the price all that much. A lot of the cost is tied up in the fact that I'm making them one at a time and even the DIY kits take over an hour to print, wash, cure, cut, inspect, fix imperfections, organize and box. If the demand grows, I may be able to higher some help or find a way to streamline the process but for now, to be honest I need the keep the quantities low. If I have to make 2 kits per day, there won't be any time left to make more videos! lol

@bappyplays 2 года назад

@@MoreToolsThanSense that makes sense. I've got resin and FDM printers myself, could do a self-print option for some of the parts but you do open yourself up to infringement if you do that. I wish you the best of success :D

@johnpeterson462 2 года назад

Haha, you have played the classic youtuber bit "The smart thing would be 'A' but why do that when I can just do 'B'" *Does B*

@ThyTrueNightmare 2 года назад

Video suggestion, add more background music to parts where your not talking, like unpacking

@ellathompson3090 2 года назад

u should paint the towers so that it looks like real stone!

@sommie666 Год назад

Im here for the excitement fists

@Jeremy_Walker Год назад

HA- actually plan what I'm about to do next....

@Lan_ny 2 года назад

For SLA printing you shouldn't be printing your objects directly to the build plate. IIRC first few layers are overexposed to ensure they stick to the build plate. I forget if a raft or just supports is the better option. Resin is also weaker than PLA in stress tests

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

True, you're not really supposed to stick it right on the build plate... but with an absolute square of an object, it's nearly impossible to get a nice finish on all 6 flat surfaces any other way. Also, I use tenacious additive to the resin, you can bend a 5mm thick piece nearly in half before it snaps, It's passing all of my stress tests!

@theoracles8183 2 года назад

When you make table Mk 2 (Which I'm completely convinced you will to incorporate a larger surface play area or larger television, or what have you), I'd love to purchase table Mk 1 from you!

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

I'm more likely to upgrade the table instead of starting over but you never know!

@WernerBeroux 2 года назад

I was wondering for a while why you didn't do it in PLA using FFF. You're going to sell it as a kit and laser is so much faster and easier to ship, so makes sense. For the glue, I wonder why you're using E6000 which is very flexible glue. For this I believe you'd want a chemical welding glue. Given the likely overall investment for this, I'd also go for plastic threaded inserts.

@coltn7432 Год назад

It's be cool, but probably undoable, to have the towers auto close. Edit: like when you drop them the roof closes itself

@travisrodgers451 9 месяцев назад

Man this table is so cool, I wish I was your wife... or part of your campaign lmao

@LostCloudx4 2 года назад

Well, watching pt 2 you did what I said, lol

@garnerloudermilk1710 2 года назад

After watching you struggle with that snap stabilizer...might I suggest magnets?

@JudithOpdebeeck 2 года назад

so not to make your life even harder, but it seems to me like it would be possible, and a good idea, to add some kind of rotaty thing on the bottom, so you can rotate the tray whichever way you want?

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

Likely really difficult to add to a square tower. I have thought about designing a round one in the future that could have this feature.

@skaerup 2 года назад

Pl… pla-n - I am not sure I am familiar with that particular concept? 🤔😁

@Jkauppa 2 года назад

you look like Jazza, from table top time

@Jkauppa 2 года назад

people use so much time, into nonsense, and claim its needed for living

@holgerb6103 2 года назад

Hey, ich love your Videos around your dnd table. One i habe just ohne question, would you also offer a Version to place ontop of a table, because i don't have a table that i can Customizing like you

@brianfoster7064 2 года назад

Why not use threaded wood inserts to mate with bolts instead of screws?

@nautblue4284 Год назад

Holy hell! What do you do for a living?

@JohnPicard-j4g 3 месяца назад

Can you make this in a 3d printable downloadable file for everyone who has a 3d printer to make their own 3d version please

@gimlithegrey4863 2 года назад

Heads up to anyone in the comments looking for pricing (absolutely fair price imo) it is 250 for 4 unassembled kits, mounting hardware and stickers. 100 for one unassembled kit, mounting hardware, and sticker. will be buying eventually as i am in the process of building a table myself

@jarikcaisse3061 2 года назад

For anyone working on something similar, don't use loctite it eats plastics and make it extraordinary brittle over time.

@MoreToolsThanSense 2 года назад

Correct, The loctite only goes inside the metal on metal Chicago screws.

@christie2999 9 месяцев назад

So, the kickstarter ended... So where do i get some?

@joep041188 2 года назад

f-ing cool.

@JohnPicard-j4g 2 месяца назад

Can we have the STL files for your dice towel so we can print it ourselves.

@seanbirger3036 2 месяца назад

Hang in there! I know it's been a while but the downloadable/ printable versions are so close to done!

@evasarachan-dubay 2 месяца назад

@@seanbirger3036 so excited to see this!!

@DarkFire0421 2 года назад

How much was your Lazer cutter ? How many hand jobs does a guy like me need to give inorder to get my own ?

@MeepChangeling 2 года назад

Instead of the D&D logo, why not make the tops of these into little shallow cupholders? SOrt of alike a built in coster / dice tray.

@StephanthePelted 6 месяцев назад

'and so i bought a laser cutter'.... wow

@TheStore1989 Год назад

I'm sadly very late to the party! Is there any chance that the 3d files are available for purchase?

@MoreToolsThanSense Год назад

I'm very slowly working on it... sorry I have so many other jobs/ projects and hobbies slowing me down.

@TheStore1989 Год назад

Oh boy, I didnt even notice your response! Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed

@somewherestrange Год назад

Is the shop not set up yet or ??

@MoreToolsThanSense Год назад

After fulfilling the orders from the Kickstarter, I found that even when optimized, it still takes a good amount of time to cut and print each one. In an upcoming project I will be redesigning/ improving and creating an all (or nearly all) digital option that will have the advantage of a much lower cost as well. Stay tuned!

@AMerexican787 6 месяцев назад

Any chance these are available anywhere yet?

@seanbirger3036 6 месяцев назад

I am finally getting back to this project after a lot of distractions. And new, more detailed, fully printable hidden dice towers will be availible soon, Stay tuned!

@evasarachan-dubay 3 месяца назад

@@seanbirger3036 any chance this is still happening? We are super excited about it!

@jamestaylor3805 2 года назад

Just got back into 3d modeling to start printing for various projects I have always wanted to do and the old ass computer burned out... being underpaid fucking sucks.

@DrummingJC Год назад

I'd like to place an order is that still an option?

@MoreToolsThanSense Год назад

Sorry, cutting and printing physical models just ended up being too time consuming. I am working on an all digital, downloadable design so stay tuned for that in the future!

@mattdavies9874 Год назад

you need to sell these so i can buy one

@dieselgold9047 Год назад

ok Messi

@mikewilliams2859 2 года назад

Am I the only one who cringed when he touched the glass element of the laser with his bare hands!?

@siveonfarcloud4190 Год назад

I don't see the point of having it occupying space under the table just to pull the tower out and have it also occupy space on top of it. You could just have the "tower" under the table the whole time and just drop the dice on the whole, then the dice come out on your side. If you want to make it fancy you can even forgo the tower-like aspect and just make it fold under the table.

@shawnmcculley895 Год назад

Come to umicon

@mr.pavone9719 Год назад

awww shiiiiiiit... I've been playing d&d wrong for so long! I DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL TABLE! i quit.

@DarkFire0421 2 года назад

Yo send me the not snug tower

@hellsjester1 Год назад

imagine spending 5000$ for a dice tower....

@myslinski11 Год назад

Use good rivets

@wheatloathe 2 года назад

Playing DnD with this man must be like sitting at the table of the final supper with Jesus himself. But, you know, without the betrayal stuff. You know what I mean.

@alfredbarnescomedy 2 года назад

He's my DM and I can confirm there is some betrayal stuff.

@thesqeaky Год назад

Wish i would have found this sooner, would love to have a few of these. Any plans on releasing the STLs for purchase in the future? I have a laser cutter, 3D printer and resin printer.

@BiologyIsHot Год назад

Buying a laser cutter seems like the kind of thing I would do during a manic episode

@jamestaylor3805 2 года назад

Laser cutting a wood veneer for cleaner printed components may give you the look you want on a layer project.

@daemonglasscock8768 2 года назад

Might buy a 2 pack even without a table to fit it to, looks like I'll be in the market for a new table lol

@annaluizar.desouza9551 7 месяцев назад

THE EXISTENCE OF THE LITTLE TABLE IS JUSTIFIED ON ITSELF!!!!!!

@trexdrew 3 месяца назад

This and the original video are sick and I love them not to mention how much I wish I had a table even close to this. That said I’ll also offer one criticism as well from the TTRPG side of things. It’s said that to be a properly randomized roll from a dice tower your dice needs to have at least 3 contact points with the inside of the tower. Otherwise your rolls are lacking in randomness. If I were to buy a tower like this personally that’s definitely something that I’d not only be looking for but would be a dealbreaker for me. If you look into towers online you’ll find the good ones always try to include 3+ platforms for dice to roll off of. Obviously it might be a bit difficult to include this in your table ones but if you’re selling these out and about I’d suggest making a larger sized one for sale maybe? That way folks have an option of how randomized they want to get.

@Sweet..letssurf 2 месяца назад

1st time to channel Bud asked me to build him a table I’ve build everything and been in construction fir years… This is the most impressive build I’ve ever seen You’re a genius