Building Your Own Base Is A Trap In Project Zomboid 

I completely forget to put an alert that you need to be in debug mode to see that. You might be able to see it with the cheat mod.

@@Retanaru I tried with a cheat mod on and there's no drop-down menu when looking at the map

Oh you have to press ALT and F4 simultaneously.@@tommeakin1732

@@tommeakin1732 A mod called "eris_minimap" can help you out here, if you want an alternative to launching in debug mode. when you launch the save, you'll have to click the "see zombies" checkbox in the minimap itself

​@@tommeakin1732if running PZ through Steam, If I'm not mistaken you go to game properties and add "-debug" to the launch options textbox. If running it native, right click the executable or a shortcut to it, select Properties, and then uhh I don't remember the name of the tab but you put "-debug" in the textbox meant for launch parameters like this. (Sry I'm on my phone)

My hope is that the performance improvements they keep showing off fixes all that messed up lighting and layering.

Not to mention no power or water even if they're still running, and there's no way to connect your player structures to the utility lines

in reality, player made buildings make more sense as they follow a strict "closed structure and roof" system (even if those walls are just frames) while a lot of buildings ingame have no roofs (a usual method to break into gunshops when no sledge or fire) and things like roof tiles are these magical floating things that obey no rules. premade buildings also have magical indoor zones that cannot be affected. you can destroy a skyscaper to ashes and on every level where it was it will be indoors. my point is, it's all a mess.

@@SharpForceTrauma I've thought about using a map expansion mod for a player base but to fix issues like that and the graphical bugs , but all the mods come fully furnished which defeats the fun of building the base and decorating

​@@breach_meidithfucking hell can this game be janky as fuck sometimes, one time I was trying to run over the spiffo boss from ehe, it got up under my car and sent it flying into the interior of a nearby store

Lol Asperger's

How did it fall apart? Also: clearing out the zombies might have worked as well 😁

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 The campaign fell apart because we just stopped playing the game. It just... naturally happens sometimes. People drift away from games and even from each other all the time. As for clearing out the zombies, we did slay tons of them, but there are a lot of them on the map, they migrate and new ones spawn regularly too (at least that's how the settings were when we played). Eventually it's just easier to build around an infinite enemy xD

@@Lernos1 Did you figure out a way to get a car up levels? I guessed maybe that was what stopped your game, because I gave it a thought and I can't think of any way of doing it.

@@Elrond_Hubbard_1 My original plan was building some sort of a ramp for the car to get to an upper level, but I never tested it. I guess I would've been disappointed then, because apparently, from what I've read, the game engine is coded in such a way that only the player character (and zombies, of course) can properly have physics along the vertical axis. I don't know if there's a mod that can change that, probably not. But I heard there was a helicopter mod, guess that's one way to have an over-the-road vehicle...

last time I tried that zombies walked through it without making a sound. Was this fixed?

I collect alarm clocks and watches and set them to various different times and spread them out around my base it pulls zombies out of tree lines and from inside nearby houses and leaves them in nice clumps on the road where I can fight them later

this is as simple as it is genius

@@MMW1299 I've actually tested it now and it's just theory. Zombies do not make any glass sound when walking over glass shards.

@@fahrradmittelfranken8207 oh I was responding to the guy above me that used alarm clocks to move zombies away from his base. I don't know why I couldn't @ him

With enough skill we should be able to build concrete walls and reinforce weaker or damaged walls with makeshift barricade.

name pls im looking or exactly that

Honestly, I wish there was an option in game to disable zombies targeting walls themselves anyway. I can understand doors, windows, and fences but the walls of every other building can't be attacked so why can mine?

Unbreakable Metal Fences + Gates!

Player-built chain link fences are also not flammable for some reason (nothing else -at least player-built- metal has this immunity), so with invincible metal walls, assuming that it includes chain-link this is extra-useful.

Theres a mod that makes it so the zombies damage themselves as they damage structures, so that could help prolong the life of your structures while still staying faithful to the hardcore survival style. Ill let you know if I can find the name of the mod!

The mod is called Barricades Hurt Zombies

Yeah, games like zomboid that praise themselves on being realistic really just focus way too much on being realistic for making it harder for players. Then again, a single guy being able to construct solid steel walls in the apocalypse is quite the unrealistic convenience as well, so maybe zombies being able to infinitely attack and tear them down balances that out.

@@ShadeSlayer1911 It's not difficult. You find a sheet of metal and any method to fasten it to something and you have a steel wall. Whether that's a welder, a torch, or bolts doesn't matter. If you wanna get realistic then you can get a hand drill and virtually any material for a rod and cut metal or rock using sand. Time consuming, but if your life depends on it in an apocalypse then you'll make it happen.

Shit take.

There's a specific house in Riverside, near the gas station, which has a long pre-built wall behind it (to the north) with a few tiles of space between the house and wall. That house is usually where I try and base out of, since downtown Riverside is within easy walking distance, but also far enough away that whatever I do at base won't attract the hordes from downtown.

@@HelghastStalker you can also base up at the junkyard, assuming that isnt what you were referring to, as it is also far enough from downtown to avoid most of the riff raff, while still being close enough for walking to be viable, and the fence is large enough that most of the time zombies wont path around and will simply stand there waiting to be shot. it comes with a small trailer you can use for temporary shelter, and plenty of cars to grind mechanics or cannibalize for spare parts to fix your dream car. it's not far from the bar.

@@AtrociousAK47 I know where the junkyard is, but I generally don't base there because it's a pain in the ass to haul or build infrastructure that I need to live long term in that trailer or build a custom home. If I could point to where I normally base out of, you'd see why I prefer it so much, especially since it's a possible spawn house. That being said, the Junkyard *is* an awesome place to set up a temporary "camp" to grind mechanics and maybe lure zombies into an easy(ish) killzone to clear the area and level weapons skills. Put a proper gate on the fence, fortify that trailer to make it safe to sleep in at night, set up some rain barrels for water, and stockpile some canned food in the trailer, and it's a decent little bolt hole if downtown Riverside gets too hot.

I based up there for quite a while with a couple friends of mine on my last server, sure was a bit scary till we were able to get a gate built, and honestly the only thing that was an issue moving over was a stove, since you need lvl 3 electrical to move them, we mostly used a microwave and I think either a bbq grill or an antique stove we found in a nearby warehouse, everything else we found in nearby houses or in town somewhere I was also fhe group mechanic, so naturally I enjoyed having the space for my my small fleet of vehicles that we scavenged, my most prized ones being a white suv we found parked in the driveway of a house in the fenced in row of houses off to the east, with a key for it inside said house, and a Toyota '87 landcruiser w/ roof rack I found. Did eventually leave there for a few weeks, maybe a month, to go setup a base in the gatehouse at fort redstone after me and one of my friends made a harrowing trip there right as thick fog rolled in, with us forgetting the extra supplies we brought in the car, which was left outside the gatehouse, as we got pushed deeper and deeper in the base. when I eventually went back to riverside in a fillabuster's army truck I found along the access road to the gate house to reloacate all my shit, the place was overgrown with trees, and my other former comrade's gear was still where I had left it, felt kind of strange tbh.

Yes, this here is the way. You always use a prebuilt as a core and then build around it. Never fails.

Because your house is WEAK and didn't do enough pushups.

There's a setting where you can have the zombies attack random buildings. It gets chaotic real quick if you have them be able to trigger house alarms also.

@@Boututu yep, I know about that, and most pf my runs where using both options, real chaos, real funny

@@alewolfo8491 take big hoarde and have fun with them collpasing a highrise in louisville lmao

The fact they can break metal walls at all is BS. You're not breaking a welded metal wall with your hands, it's just not happening. A 1 inch weld holds like three tons. Flesh doesn't beat steel and if they're massing up in such quantities to damage the metal wall they should be actively crushing each other to death, which would then stop them from damaging it as the ones in front stop pushing.

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@@slyseal2091 so true

There is definitely room for detailed mechanics surrounding the destruction of walls and fences.

Maybe with build 42 and being able to use clay, they could also add bricks and brick walls as a more balanced way to have unbreakable walls while still having it be balanced because the bricks would take a long time to make so it would be a late game thing.

@@falloutfart9917 That's a good idea, and it'd also look nice from an aesthetic standpoint to have brick walls and wood doors/roofs.

Sounds like the best solution to me. I play games like this because they're difficult. Many of the other options seem like they make things too easy.

in zombie settings you can turn off damage to player buildings at all. If you build a brick wall, there is no way a human beign would destroy this wall before their body fell apart.

@@stalker2011mixa Only if it's a single zombie unfortunately,

to be fair about the metal pot in microwave thing, that was a fairly recent change, so it still catches returning veteran players off guard from time to time, as evidenced by posts you see on r/projectzomboid, also it's one of those small details you dont normally expect to see in a videogame, and from what I understand is a bit of a myth irl that only really happened with much older examples from like the 60s and 70s, and the worst that could happen on a modern example is it simply dies, no fire or explosion.

I remember trying to heat up some water to sterilize some bandages, but I didn't have an oven anywhere near so I put a cooking pot in a microwave and left the house for a few minutes - when I came back everything was ablaze

@@thegamingraven1691 When I played with my brother months ago, he put something in the oven and then went afk while standing right next to the oven. I was panicking, but it was hilarious after when he returned.

@@AtrociousAK47 "examples from like the 60s and 70s" my guy, how old are you? I know that microwaves today have voltage regulators that can detect a short and adjust power but even just 10 years ago if you put a fork in a microwave it looked like lightning, and *burned many homes down*. I'll never forget putting a gold rimmed plate in and it crackling with blue electricity shooting off the gold.

@@AtrociousAK47 Holy run on sentence Batman

Same. I recently bought PZ and after reading through the comment section, I think I am going to turn off zombies being able to destroy buildings. The challenge will be to survive long enough to see my home finished!

cheese the game and build it suspended above ground level? that way the only thing they can destroy is a stairs leading up in case they aggro. you can rebuild those or even have ropes as an 'elevation measure'.

A handful of saucepans and cooking pots hold as much water as the first level of rain barrel. The rain barrel isn't really a crucial item, because just about every house has a cook pot, saucepan or both. Once you have looted about 10 of each, you'll be able to store enough water to make it between rains. And this isn't even counting the other good, rain catching items: gardening cans, metal buckets, and paint buckets. Finally, there are so many Water Dispensers on the map, each holding 250 units of clean drinking water, that grinding carpentry levels for rain barrels - and the rain barrels themselves - are really pretty unnecessary.

​@@broastedgarlic7354you need rain barrels to get clean running water but that's about it,also they are needed by irrigation mods.

@@broastedgarlic7354 For me its less about the ability to gather water, but reducing the annoyance of having to constantly boil water because i dont have a barrel and plumbed sink.

Metal crates do spawn. But the only place I found them so far was a metal shop in Louisville.

@Domo-mq8tm that's why you boil in batches and fill a bunch of empty bottles...

Pretty much. My favorite bit is how flipping light switches is REALLY GODDAMN LOUD somehow so window blinds don't actually matter much. It's all just overtuned to the point where most of it's mechanics are pointless because you need to just cheese everything.

The devs made the game incredibly annoying on purpose to make it feel "hard".

I think when you learn it goes from Hard Realistic Game to Unfair Meta Game you learn to exploit or die to the Obtuse Meta Gameness of it.

It's pretty terrible. Horrible UI, mechanics that don't make sense. A game that has been in development for 11 years, living off charity still looks and plays like a pre alpha build.

@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia well, now you're just getting personal

I thought about doing the microwave with metal thing, but really wanted to throw the molotov.

@@Retanaru Heh, fair enough - I thought it was a clever way to highlight how good the An. Stove is.

There didn't use to be so many zombies around the edge as far as I know. They were only added after they included the bits and pieces of the next map update (I assume to make it dangerous to go out there).

​@@Retanaru it's especially annoying for woodlands bases and around March Ridge An near impenetrable wall of zombies, 10s of cells deep is no fun for my simple woodlands lifestyle Also last time I checked, they are generic Civilian zombies

@@jw69440 I dont know the legit reason as why the developers have spawned them there or what code may be making it happen. But in lore as far as I know the area we play in its quarantined from the rest of the world, so any zombies that wander away (as they just shamble with time), or chase survivors who think they can escape the quarantine, its built a massive wall of zombies at the border, idk just a fan theory.

@@jw69440 Well my guess is that A) it's a "soft border" which the players hit before the hard border, and hard borders can be more of an unimmersive thing to bump into, and B) They want to make it harder for you to be truly safe from the zeds. If you're close enough to those zed pop zones, meta events like the heli are still a threat to you. Obviously there's lots of spots on the map where you are far enough away from those pop zones; but it'd be even easier to be totally safe if you could just walk in one direction and be sure you'd never see a zed again.

@@tommeakin1732 i'd need to factcheck it myself, but I believe that these border areas have a higher population count than the rest of the map combined excluding LV, despite not having any buildings aside from the unfinished settlement to the top left. I get having to have a soft border, but it covers about 45% of the playable space

I think having extra survivors function as a lives mechanic, while still doing busywork around your base would be a nice middleground

Just Minecraft your house in the sky?

Also, make yourself immune to the zombie virus Makes the health system worth it Why else would you be alive? Why is everyone else infected?

One thing I never understood is how zombies can break through your plastered walls but can't break through houses

I often turned it super deadly, where making it to a point where I could even consider making a base was impossible.

Source?

The wiki doesn't state anything like this so it's likely false

@@carlosd.ambuyo3529 They are saying that it should be added, not that it already exists.

@@nothingtoseehere9648 They aren't saying its in the game, they are saying that the devs should add it

@@guymanyes4756 ah ok

jesus christ is that horrific

Do you know the name of the mod? Tbh I probably wouldn’t use it as I think I like the constant challenge of having to deal with zombies who just can’t seem to get enough of me 😂

So Indie Stone lied.

Crawlers don't appear to attack them either.

They are, but they are not really supposed to be. Moving them will cause them to no longer be invulnerable. There was a time when they couldn't even be moved either (making them the only wall that even players can't break without a sledgehammer), but for some reason they patched the movable part without bothering to change the destroyable part. That being said, the fence blocking exploit still exists too.