Buster Olney RIPS Jackson Holliday Decision 

Wow, service time manipulation needs to be stopped. Sounds kinda criminal in a way. There are companies that do this to people who are about to hit pension and find a way to get rid of them before it. These owners or whoever make these decisions that have never played ball a day in their life should not be making decisions like that.

I 1000% agree that the service time manipulation is annoying and awful. I also agree that Jackson Holiday should have been on the big league roster on opening day. AND I agree that even with new billionaire, home based ownership coming, the Orioles are still a woefully small market team. If service time manipulation is so egregious, for what reason has it never been a sticking point in negotiation between the owners and the players? The simple answer is the union isn't all that psyched to fight for guys who haven't made it to the bigs. And with the structure of the union changing, that could shift. But the big boy reality is that while watching my favorite team be amazing for the first time in a VERY long time, it doesn't change the fact that we're closer to the "50 feet of crap" end of the spectrum than the Yankees/Sox/Dodgers. And not for nothing, but just because new ownership isn't the Angelos family doesn't mean they're going to be good at it. Hopefully, the first "new owner syndrome" move they pull is to massively overpay to extend Adley, Gunnar, and Jackson, not trade away our best assets for a flashy name that will only be around for a few years.

This team is absolutely frightening for the rest of the American league!!! Let's go O's ❤❤❤

Bring him up!

Elias and the Orioles know what they’re doing. Additional time at AAA is the right move for Jackson and consistent with their patient approach making sure players are ready in all facets to contribute to the team. As former manager Buck Showalter once said… “It’s the name on the front of the jersey that matters…” Side note - I’d bring up Kjerstad before Holliday!

That's exactly what i was thinking and i was very vocal about it up until the end of the game last night Now my take is he belongs in the majors but it probably wasn't urgent to call him up 0 for 8 with strikeouts, some in big game situations Clearly the Os are gonna be ok without him I think management might've been correct when they decided to let him develop a bit more Especially if it means keeping him and extra season

I wish people would stop telling the Orioles how to run their team cause they want media hits. We needed to make sure he’s ready. He needed to work on 2nd. He’ll be up soon

They got the best farm system like the Braves had in the early 1990's. See Holliday, Kjerstad, Mayo would be in the majors right now if they were on 80% of the other MLB teams. But the Orioles have a loaded team. It's sad in baseball because if this was another sport like hockey, football, or basketball they would be playing in the top level. Who cares if they win a title in the minor leagues or they are a minor league mvp. They need to be in the majors to enhance the sport. Trammell was 20, Trout 19/20, Mays 20, Mantle 19/20, Griffey 19, Harper 19, Yount 18/19, Frank R. 20, Ted Williams 20, A-Rod 18/19, Kaline 19, Bench 20.......

We have Jax and he's not playing? Might be called a business decision, but what about the fact that he's as ready as he's going to be, we fans want him up, and he'll be a marketing sensation......those would be great for business.

Baltimore does not have their best 26 players on the roster. Hayes and Mullins didn't exactly finish last season strong and if they continue to slump offensive, it doesn't make sense to keep them around. Let all of the baby birds come up and play. Do they really need to keep Urias around, when they have Holliday and Mayo ready to go?

Service the time manipulation, I understand, but Jackson.Holiday had less than 25 games at second base I believe and had very little experience against quality left-handed pitching especially at the AAA level. In no way does someone go from single to the big in one year without having a fairly decent time facing top prospects and AAA. I don’t buy the service time manipulation. I think it’s suspect I think it’s possible but highly unlikely considering Jackson Holiday still only what 20/21 years old.

Holliday has 4 errors in 6 games. Come on. Hes not ready

Ciao ciao Tony Kemp and Ramon Urias... Hello Jackson Holliday Coby Mayo! This should happen immediately. Next they trade Hayes and inset either Kjerstad or Stowers... the only thing that's difficult is finding space on the roster.

Service time manipulation definitely isn’t fair from the player’s perspective, but it’s important, if not necessary, for small market teams like Baltimore to be able to afford all of these up and coming stars

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I agree 100% about the Orioles and their farm. I also see a lot of upside with the minors in the Cubs organization.

I think Elias and the whole O's organization were very clear what they were doing during the rebuild: building up their minor league system and international organization at the expense of the Major League team. I understood that and supported it. Did anyone actually hear anything different?

I like Ramon Urias on this team as a utility backup player and I am convinced by now that Mateo has some blackmail photos of either Elias or Hyde doing something they shouldn't so I get why he was put on the opening day roster. But when they went out and signed Tony freaking Kemp I about lost all faith. I usually like to side with the general manager on these subjects but I just couldn't make the argument anymore when they put Kemp on the roster and sent Holliday down. Even if they leave him down there till after the all-star break, he is still going to have an adjustment period. I would prefer that period to take place at the beginning of the season, not the middle.

Since the Orioles won't sign him long term they need to hold him back to get an extra year of service. So they can prepare him better for his new team.

Evan Longoria was sent down for a month or so before being brought back it was a contract thing and when he returns who sits Westburg Mateo already plays once maybe twice a week now's the time to move Santander and Westburg for a quality starter then

I’m not against the Orioles sending Jackson to the minors to start the season. This is a kid you bring up in July when you’re in the middle of a pennant race and it’s like landing a blockbuster trade before the deadline. On top of that, let this young man get more reps down in the minors and allow him to work on his mechanics and more importantly his weaknesses. Mike Elias and the front office KNOW what they’re doing.

Don't worry O's fans Holliday will be up soon!!! Patience has played a big part of the Orioles rebuild and has already paid great dividends. Elias knows what he's doing obviously. O's...... 2023 A.L. East Champs!!!

MLB generally has no clue what it is doing. Let players play. One time in a broadcast Jim Palmer said he thought he came up too early. But he also said he learned what he needed to work on. Holliday isn't learning ANYTHING by playing against inferior talent. Get him into the majors so he either learns what he needs to work on, or fails. The guy has been playing probably since he was 3. How much of a doctorate do you need to play a sport? People who operate on BRAINS don't spend this much time in the minor leagues. Let good players play. Example. Al Kaline had his career year at the age of 20. Look it up. The 'modern' mentality is swisstarding the majors and player development.

Service time manipulation. Coming up mid May, release Kemp

Bandwagon Buster

Why do people think: 1. We would be rushing him bringing him up now? (FYI Jackson has shown he’s more ready than any of the other rookies other teams like the WS winning Rangers started on their OD roster, at every level incl. spring training). 2. This notion that bringing up a player too soon will ruin him or something? 😂 This is the dumbest opinion I see. You are the same people I guarantee who were [very wrongly] whining to send Gunnar down to AAA last year (you all were so wrong!). I love Elias and always defend him because DUH, but this move was so obvious service time manipulation and if you think otherwise you’re either ignorant about baseball or you’re being daft. It doesn’t get more obvious. You think Urias or Tony Kemp wins us more games than Jackson!? Get outta here 😂. Also the errors… do you all not watch games? Love Gunnar, I think he finishes top 3 in MVP voting this year, but he’s made atleast 2 or 3 errors already, and a few throws that Mounty saved an error on.. I just hope Elias doesn’t hold him there longer than the day after he needs to for another year of service, just so it doesn’t look SO obvious as so many of us realize. Go O’s.

Bring Up Jackson and Heston send down Urias and Mateo

Jesus Christ. Give it up dude.

Respectfully...this didn't age too well. Everyone's got opinions but when outsiders start dictating what should or should not be going on in an organization things generally don't go too well. I have no doubt that Jackson will rock MLB but he's not ready. That's pretty obvious now. Isn't it?

Im still hoping Cle fades so a Bieber Clase deal becomes possible

Cry about tanking more Buster

You are sure milking the Holiday subject.

Breaking news. Buster Olneys weird obsession with ripping the Orioles continues. Dude has a problem

People who support service time manipulation are only helping the owners. That’s it. Imagine being an employee due for a raise but have to wait an entire year for said raise because 5-6 years prior you were held down for 2 weeks. Try that in any other profession in America, but baseball gets a pass. Service time manipulation is genuinely the worst part of the game. Makes me not even want to tune in. Just feel so chested

He is in the majors now. You can quit your whining

They have 3 players that have no buisness bn on the team. Hope the pirates kick there ass.

Anything buster says about the orioles is irrelevant

The Orioles know what they are doing, trust Eias, not 3 talking heads on a youtube channel, especially one named Ripken.