BUY THIS INSTEAD - Shuoer S12 Review

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@hglimshire8356 2 года назад

My problem is I have a champagne taste and a Pepsi budget. If I were to purchase every "new and improved" IEM I'd be broke all the time

@KseRBanshee Год назад

Wow just received the S12 today. I’m no audiophile and will not go into technical details but damn planar magnetic is something else. Best way I can describe the sound signature is fluffy, airy, floaty, weightless and effortless. Even though the sound stage is not that wide but somehow it still feels like a live band is playing in a floaty way inside your head and I just love it. The tuning is exactly what I am looking for and I have no trouble with the treble and it fits perfectly and comfortably in my ears. Black Friday deals for $120 and I don’t think you can get anything better at this price point. It is really that special just like you said and everyone needs to experience it!

@iikatinggangsengii2471 Месяц назад

effortless is correct, somehow smoother dynamics/details

@telecast712 2 года назад

Your review is so good. Very detailed and informative. Thank you keep up the good work.

@Weareonenation303 2 года назад

Next month: 50$ PLANAR NEW KING!

@aqryllic 2 года назад

That would actually be amazing and start a new trend.

@kizzymartinsborges3981 2 года назад

Lol

@elpanameno8127 2 года назад

Tripowin planar coming 🔜

@nomanhossain6597 2 года назад

@@elpanameno8127 for real?

@gman23883 Год назад

Lol how well this comment has aged. The KZ pr2 pro

@alvinflowz 2 года назад

Greetings from the Dominican Republic. always attentive to your reviews, thanks for your excellent work. peace and love.

@rolfathan 2 года назад

Thank you for that Ikko OH10 comparison. Really contextualizes it for me.

@NekoOkto 2 года назад

Ok so... I ordered the Moondrop Starfield. A few days before I got them, the Aria released. Now, I ordered the timeless a few weeks ago. They are arriving in a few days. This just released. What the hell is my luck...

@jaroslavfricek7772 2 года назад

Timeless are amazing… u will enjoy✌️😁

@73split 2 года назад

The Timeless is well worth your money, your luck is just fine.

@mintyone 2 года назад

that's the problem with the lower end chi-fi market. They're just churning these things out trying to undercut the next best thing. By the time you spend $80 here, $100 there, $200 over there you could have saved up all that money and bought a competent mid tier IEM. Everyone is going to be different but you should figure out how much you're willing to spend and figure out your end game and save up for it over spending money on the next best low end release.

@jb678901 2 года назад

@@mintyone In general, I agree...except for the recent arrival of the Olina. Ordered it at the start of this week.

@NekoOkto 2 года назад

@@mintyone Personally, I'd rather have a lot of styles and sounds to choose from than have one insane pair, but I get where you're coming from. I didn't have a full time job when I ordered the Timeless or Starfields, and now I do, so I can spend more if I want to... I'm just not yet. I want to work my way up.

@jasonweaver3629 2 года назад

Great video, you seem more relaxed in your delivery, I think it works better, but just my opinion, keep up the good work, thank you 🙏

@saurabbbhardwaj1930 2 года назад

Good one Timmy. Exciting that such great products coming out in such quick succession that you have buyer remorse soon as you bought a product yesterday. But an expensive pursuit 😀

@rushdown3031 11 месяцев назад

Had these for a few months, paired with an upgraded balanced cable and a K7 DAC.. gaming powerhouses, nice for music too. Love them.

@tonybowen455 2 года назад

Man up to 2:15 everything you've said is just so good. Sums up everything perfectly. Timeless is jarring to me, but I'll keep it because the technicalities are amazing. Everyone says don't get the s12, but if I see a good deal on one in the future used I'd be too curious to not buy it.

@zeissiez 2 года назад

Had these for a week. They have very very low distortion which means I could EQ the hell out of them without hearing any distortion. So I could shape the sound to what I like according to the genre, something that is not possible with many other IEMs because those will suffer from distortion. Also, the S12 has a bit of that electrostatic sound to it, nimble, super fast transient, super fast decay, clean, transparent. When the bass hit, it’s more like a hit by Bruce Lee than a gorilla, fast, incisive, focused but not as weighty or rich as DD. All in all, excellent value for the money. The best bang for the buck, even more so than the likes of T3+ or Aria, with technicalities miles ahead. It’s high end sound (organic, refined, pure) at a low price.

@Nok-wj7fl 2 года назад

How about the comfortable fit? My ears are quite small, so I am afraid of the size. Even though it is smaller than the timeless. Moreover, I prefer MMCX connector because it is tight. Is 2 pin really strong? If it is , I will buy this set. Thank you for your advices.

@zeissiez 2 года назад

@@Nok-wj7fl it’s my most comfortable set, because they are the smallest and there are no sharp edges. The insertion is not too deep. As for 2-pin, it’s quite secure, but I prefer to keep them in a soft case before putting in the pocket of my jeans to avoid damaging the pins. I think MMCX is tougher. But if you change cable often, 2-pin is better, because while you could damage the pins on the cable easily but you can’t damage the holes in the IEMs.

@Soundoverload 2 года назад

@@Nok-wj7fl I also have smaller ears and they fit me great - and they sound great yes. But The Tripowin Mele fit me even better and therefore you could also consider their new Tripowin Olina which has the same housing as the Mele.

@jb678901 2 года назад

It may be one of the more EQ-able IEM's out there. With this type of flexibility and performance, it really is a great IEM and killer for the price point. Not perfect...maybe not as refined as the 7Hz...but standing very tall at its price point. No regrets buying this one, even if I pulled the trigger just before buying the Olina. With a $250 budget and the choice of only 1 IEM...this one would be on my personal list of plausible contenders.

@Soundoverload 2 года назад

@@jb678901 Recieved Olinas yet? (and if so..how are they)

@jesusbecerraaguilar9622 2 года назад

I already have the S12 and it seems magnificent and sufficient for my taste, I don't have any more than the ones you showed, so I have no opinion. I will stay with the S12 for a long time to enjoy. 👍

@mdk12172633sg 2 года назад

I was planning for Aria now i think i might change my mind

@cmdalbem 2 года назад

Great review, and thanks for comparing with Obsidian! I've been super curious to hear these revolutionary plannars, but it's so sad this one looks so dull, and the Timeless looks so weird (and seems to have a bad fit according to some people).

@KmtS9 11 месяцев назад

Hi! Enjoy your videos and many thanks for the work you put in. Would like to ask a quick opinion/reco. I daily drive a 7hz Zero and Tangzu Wan'er. Also use a Hifiman HE400SE and M40x (in case that helps the discussion). Music is mainly forms of rock (indie, alt, shoegaze, pop punk, jrock), instrumental (math rock, prog rock/metal, jazz fusion), indie/jazzy/bluesy/chill pop, and occasionally some hiphop (specifically Kendrick/Kanye/early Drake). So a majority is music with instruments (as opposed to more electronic things). Looking for an upgrade on the technicalities front - imaging, separation, resolution, clarity. Really enjoy the tuning of the 7hz Zero and Wan'er. I can currently get a Hexa for $90, which would've been my insta-pick (Zero Red didn't seem like it would've been a big enough upgrade - can get it for $60 by the way) buuuuut, i can get an S12 for $100. Is the S12 too good of a deal to pass up? I feel like i will prefer the Hexa tuning more, but i believe the S12 is a considerable step up in technicals. And i would also be open to try out the different tuning of the S12, in addition to the better technical performance. What you think? 😅 Thanks!!!

@jasonbhatnagar7134 2 года назад

Can you do a comparison of all the 1DD IEMs you have once you review the Olina?

@umtbozkr2358 Год назад

Can't say anything about the S12, but owning the Timeless and the Timeless AE, the S12 Pro which I purchased, very impressed. S12 Pro is now one of my favorites, even after just having buyed the Moondrop Variations before the S12 Pro. Probably also depending on your taste....

@keesue 2 года назад

You are the consummate reviewer. Very effective.

@kizzymartinsborges3981 2 года назад

wow Thank you so much for the review, very accurate.

@Mar10Man94 2 года назад

I got my s12 today. They're really smooth. If you're upgrading from anything V-shaped, this is the "replacement" whereas most everything else like a starfield is an alternative.

@DamianSzajnowski 11 месяцев назад

Tuning is literally a preference

@shantanusahu9168 10 месяцев назад

Any idea how better this would be from Moondrop Aria

@filovirus1 2 года назад

I appreciate this review and put my like but IMHO, that 5 - 10 % difference in audio is HUGE. once you hear the difference, you can't go back. but also, I should mention that you need more than 1 device for audio enjoyment. Timmy mentioned this in his other video too: you get this device fatigue no matter how good your setup is. it's good to have variety and for that, I think Shuoer S12 is a pretty good choice.

@volvvix 2 года назад

Kinda a dumb question but what can you drive it off because ik with planar they need power to sound good

@mfadlanm 2 года назад

What mic did you use? It sounds good!

@layfron1990 2 года назад

Seems like every week there's a new king

@mukasaisaac328 2 года назад

I like ur review but am just wondering if I should get these or etymotic er2xr

@herseyberry4655 2 года назад

95 percent is good enough for me. Plus the fit looks better. They have the same planar drivers. I think they made the Timeless like that because it makes a better sound in a larger enclosure. They same principle with speakers.

@glynrussell2 2 года назад

For the people who have the s12 does yours make a sound when you you shale your head when wearing them. Sounds like somethings loose but they sound fine.

@jcortiz948 2 года назад

Es un candidato muy fuerte para mí próxima compra, saludos amigo😊

@bonito135 Год назад

Just ordered mine for 100€, can't wait :D.

@Foobymaster1 2 года назад

I'm hype for this one. I'm wanting to get this and the hbb olina

@jb678901 2 года назад

Ordered both, earlier this week. Cannot wait. Game changers, IMO. Especially the Olina.

@jb678901 2 года назад

@@Wingedmagician I was actually thinking the very same thing today.

@Mixail747 2 года назад

Ah yeah, I'm in the club! I love the S12 (apart from the stock cable), and waiting for Olina.

@eduardobatista329 2 года назад

The olina does not sound like oxygen, if you like bass dont get it, its sharp and shouty, see Dan's demo review

@Foobymaster1 2 года назад

@@eduardobatista329 I've never heard the o2. I've been using the aria.

@melnik48 2 года назад

Just got Fiio FHE recently... And again S12, Olina, DQ6s, Midnight... Im done and tired... 7hz Eternal released a couple of weeks ago... wtf

@nomimomu2146 2 года назад

between shuoer s12 & seeaudio bravery which one do you prefer better?

@wesdesigns1838 2 года назад

Can you review the 7hz Eternal. Thanks

@you2uber530 2 года назад

Maybe not $50 planar but trn just started selling the kiril. Trn planar for $130... anyone heard if they worth it? BTW the timeless are going for $170 all over aliexpress

@swipekonme 2 года назад

good video, add titles of all models you are mentioning, for screenshoters like us oldies

@paulosilva8200 2 года назад

I got the timeless and was to Bright for me. Most of iem I have problem with trebles .I Listen to speakers on high end,i listen to headphones on the high end level and then I record my tracks and, I end up having mostly all items in this days a pass because of the treble are pushd the sound so apart from the reality.

@CollarToCollar 2 года назад

Does anyone know if u can use these with a Bluetooth adapter like the kz az09pro?

@Rubemrezende 2 года назад

Would it be better than the Tri I3 Pro?

@laurentt1192 2 года назад

Got them today...smiling😉🤘

@Gizaudio 2 года назад

Nice!!!

@laurentt1192 2 года назад

Hi, i've never experienced any planars. My favorites iems are Kbear Believe, GD3A, HZ HM, Reecho SG03 (great bass, and with EQ) that i prefer over the FH3 and T4, for exemple. Would you recommend these for a different experience?

@michaelcorcoran8768 2 года назад

Planers , if we're going to generalize, are generally not Super Bass heavy. But it does seem like a natural addition to your collection even still.

@jb678901 2 года назад

@@michaelcorcoran8768 When EQ'd with Equalizer/Peace or upping the bass with my Nakamichi SR-2E (Nelson Pass designed STASIS amp. c.1986), the bass on my S12's is off the charts exceptional. Controlled-tight-powerful-fun. I need a bit of power to do this...hence the SR-2E with BTA30Pro (in DAC mode), else with BTR-5 and BTA30Pro (in TX mode) if I want to be wireless from the desk. To increase range on the BTA30 Pro, I upgraded to a 12dB after-market antenna.

@swegmastur614 2 года назад

How does this compare to the fhe eclipse?

@protractman 2 года назад

For the price you would just EQ the S12 if you were that hooked on the sound signature of the timeless. Also these look like they have a far better chance of fitting most ears comfortable than the timeless

@RaizeN95 2 года назад

I love full bodies mid with clean extended treble, should I pick S12 or Kato?

@brijidolerma9447 Год назад

Wich one did u get??

@temporoyale6251 2 года назад

Hi, can you measure the bore/nozzle size of the Shuoer S12? I can't find this information anywhere

@jb678901 2 года назад

O.D.=5.76mm (max lip dimension); I.D.=4.44mm (screen dia.)

@xcid570 7 месяцев назад

Is the sound as good as sony wf1000xm5? I don't know which one to choose in terms of sound quality especially bass.

@bored4965 6 месяцев назад

sound quality 100% the s12

@andigaile 2 года назад

What's the outro song called?

@dexterlallo397 2 года назад

eyo, in my country the 7hz timeless only costs 173 dollars, and the s12 costs 150 usd. Even if they are, imma stick to my arias but its a real steal

@EduRB99 2 года назад

Did you tried them with the foam tips? Does it smooth out the treble a little bit?

@marklewis7101 2 года назад

the S12 is better than the timeless? clearer sound, soundstage, treble, bass, mids, instrumental separation, and which one is easier to move?

@michaelcorcoran8768 2 года назад

You reviewers have a new king every month. Lol. What a coincidence that the newest most hyped up products are always the best ever. And then in six months the newest one comes out and everyone that just spent all their money on this one will be told to get the new one. This Hobby needs to learn to keep some of its money more often ;)

@jb678901 2 года назад

Smart consumer strategy. Bad business for OEM's, distributors, and reviewers, IMHO.

@swigittyswooty6908 2 года назад

Can you please compare this with tripowin olina

@jaimepaulgodinez2752 2 года назад

Another great iem, btw what's the name of the song at the end of the video ?

@jb678901 2 года назад

I need a 7Hz timestone, so that I can turn back the clock and order the Olina BEFORE buying the S12. Now, I am patiently awaiting delivery of both.

@eduardobatista329 2 года назад

See Dan's review first its horrible

@jb678901 2 года назад

@@eduardobatista329 I did the +1 nozzle filter mod with my Olina. Frankly, I do not hear where Dan is coming from vis a vis the Olina. To me, it's an exceptional IEM and well worth the hype. Just my opinion.

@elyad67 2 года назад

The 7hz timeless soundstage sounds like a small room compared to the Ikko OH10s large hall. I hope this one has great spundstage aswell

@guilhermedossantossouza8009 Год назад

S12 or s12 pro?

@christofferaasted 2 года назад

S12, Timeless or OH10 for dnb, oldschool dubstep and electronic? S12 sounded clearer than OH10, not sure about planar for electronic music though..

@guisado1002 2 года назад

waiting for olina review

@dileepmonk8656 2 года назад

🖤

@link3457 2 года назад

What about compares to the midnight

@TonkyTronicus 2 года назад

Midnight is a bassy and relaxed L. S12 is a balanced energetic V.

@LandsPlanes 2 года назад

Please rank!!!

@ilyaobukhov612 2 года назад

Thanks for the review! In your opinion, do S12 need any AMP or they are just fine with Phone/PC?

@miltonwilliams2399 2 года назад

You can use your phone. But an amp would be better for these.

@farhannik7039 2 года назад

@@miltonwilliams2399 it is the same for 7hz?

@miltonwilliams2399 2 года назад

@farhan Nik yes you will an amp DAC to get the best sound out of them both.

@ilyaobukhov612 2 года назад

@@miltonwilliams2399 I'm just trying to choose between these and Tripowin x HBB Olina. Gonna use it with my phone/PC basically. So if S12 need AMP coz of its planar nature, I just don't want to bother and will get Olina instead.

@miltonwilliams2399 2 года назад

@Ilya Obukhov tripowin is pretty good.

@miltonwilliams2399 2 года назад

how does it compare to the p1 or p1+

@fazzxides8429 2 года назад

Super Reviews included the P1 in his review of the Timeless - P1 more natural and transparent sound signature but lacking in bass. I have P1 as well, saw a suggestion somewhere that taping the holes closed improves the bass - enjoy them a lot more with this mod. Passion for Sound is another reviewer who compared Timeless/S12/P1 plus/P2 if you want a third opinion.

@STAYCBias 2 года назад

95% close? a slight difference is alot for audiophile😂

@lantern054 2 года назад

Will u review olina bro?😁

@eduardobatista329 2 года назад

See Dan's review the olina is disappointing, nothing like mele or oxygen

@lantern054 2 года назад

@@eduardobatista329 yeah, just after watching his review I'm really confused😅. That's y wanted to know few other good reviewers opinions too🙂👍

@goodgos1844 2 года назад

hello you have to put in your video the option of subtitles in English or Spanish; no translation available

@Haziq_budak_hensem 2 года назад

soon Olina vs T4 and Aria 😁

@zhanurdos 2 года назад

Next olina vs aria batt le

@herlonsilva 2 года назад

S12 Definitely new budget king Planar iem

@eduardobatista329 2 года назад

Loco no compre el olina, no tiene bajo y duele los Altos, no es como el mele ni el oxygen

@herlonsilva 2 года назад

@@eduardobatista329 No dije la olina sino la s12, tengo mele y es muy buena pero la s12 es una gran vela de bajo valor con gran rendimiento.

@a.henriquemoreira 2 года назад

Vale

@AwesomeLevi 2 года назад

Nooooo don't say that! I bought the Timeless mere days before the S12 came out!

@coaldust01 2 года назад

He said they are brighter than timeless, and timeless has plenty treble, more than enough for me, also I think the s12 may have more forward upper mids, which can be a problem area for me, so I'm happy with my timeless 😁.

@Gustav0Silva 2 года назад

👁️👁️

@nitin-blume Год назад

audiophile jargon is probably the biggest scam in the audio industry. Listen to dudes calling earphones "musical"

@Goodbutevilgenius Год назад

What, can't something that makes music sound musical?

@nitin-blume Год назад

@@Goodbutevilgenius well I was talking about contrast, he's calling some products musical, and some not. By that logic everything that plays music should sound musical. It wouldn't really act as a quantifiable or relativistic measurement that helps a consumer decide on what suits their tastes the best.