BYD Dolphin - out of its depth? 

I've also owned various Honda bikes, as well as a Honda CRV, which I loved. Such a shame that Honda is dragging its feet into the EV market, they make some of the best value, most reliable ICE vehicles out there.

its very whale-priced for an ev

Hi, may I know what comfort features the Dolphin has that the MG4 does not?

@@SRNoobR Here in Thailand the MG4 has no rear windscreen wiper, no middle arm rest, only 1 USB port in the back and no electric adjustable seats. The Dolphin is also a more comfortable car. But the MG 4 looks better and the RWD gives a better feeling while driving.

@ MY MG4 in Thailand has electric adjustable seats but once adjusted you are not going to move them again much. The ride and handling are streets ahead of the Dolphin with it's dreadful cheap tyres - making it noisy and a bumpy uncomfortable ride, so chose the MG4.

@@StephenLawrence01 Thank you for the update! The electric seats in the Dolphin have quite a good range of adjustments. The Chinese tyres on my Dolphin Ext. are quite good, far more better than expected. For me, the Dolphin has a more comfortable ride than the MG4. But there is a huge difference between the standard model (torsion beam) and the top model (multi-link). I prefer the style and the driving dynamics of the MG4, but the Dolphin was the better solution for my needs.

Great comment my friend. It’s about time somebody put these UK reviewers in their place. I watch a lot of these reviews on the BYD and not one UK reviewer had anything nice to say about BYD. Good on you 😅 for having the courage to say what you said.

somehow, if the interior is other colour than black, the brits will get upset

Agreed! So many UK reviewers talking about MG as a “British” brand is gone beyond the joke level now. Why they don’t also call Nissan a British brand now, also puzzles me - Nissan have done more for UK employment than “original” MG did 40 years ago. Personally, I will try to avoid buying Chinese cars for as long as I can. Even though, most cars now have at least some Chinese components. That is for political reasons, as I object to Chinese political policy on many issues- e.g. South China Sea, human rights, freedom of speech. It bothers me, how much Chinese origin products that I already have! Plastics- yes, this scratchy plastic complaint is wearisome - particularly as I’m sure many reviewers are not aware of why soft plastics and hard plastics make a difference - apart from scratchiness ! How many people actually get into their car and scratch different surfaces ? As for interior colour, yes, there was a time when BMC cars (MG’s original parent company) back in the 1960s and 70s had mostly red and brown upholstery and then in the late 70s and through the 80s, all brands had blue (light and dark), brown, tan, green, tartan, etcc… Separately, I am glad to hear that, for Europe market cars, the “Build Your Dreams” text on the back of the cars is going to be removed, so will only have the small BYD badge. I guess that they had to try it out, but we’re not into that level of expression over here !

If the car badge is replaced with a German brand, the review would be completely different. It is hard to find an impartial review when it comes to Chinese made cars. Test drive yourself and don't rely on a bit from commercial programs like this

@@shk4090 yeah.. if the badge replaced by any VW stable... he'd say "it's a bold departure from their tradition design language and venturing to exciting new refreshing ideas...."

Do you know that MG is also a technology of Chinese electric vehicles? Because MG is fully controlled by SAIC Motor Corporation of China

Yep fully aware MG are a Chinese company.

Turn it off…

you has a good insight on blade battery

Hasnt the blade battery been the focus of the unexplained, spontaneous BYD EV fires in China over the last year ?

Byd 's fires have been at least 99% in hybrids and were apparently started due to a software malfunction on the changeover from electric to ICE function. These hybrids also used the older battery chemistry using cobalt which achieve runaway conditions more readily. They were not Blade battery configuration.@@ianemery2925

⁠@@ianemery2925 Tesla and EQS also caught fire in North America. Did Americans stop buying them? The fire is also unexplained. 5 million sale with one fire damage don’t look too bad.

@@yeetian2774 "one" oh lol are you a BYD, or CCP employee? FYI, there is a lovely compilation of over 20 BYD flagship EV cars on fire from earlier this year, along with interviews of the owners in many cases; some of the cars were parked, some on charge, others driving along the road and bursting into flames. Now 20 isn't that many, but bear in mind, these videos are the ones that got out of China, most are suppressed/deleted soon after they are posted on Chinese social media.

Whole vs hole.

yep, glad your comfortable in your space. keep cycling.... Will have to go and look, but expect will have to hit the pension fund a lot harder for the new KONA.

True, the BYD Atto3 is selling quite well here in Australia.

Do you know that MG is also a technology of Chinese electric vehicles? Because MG is fully controlled by SAIC Motor Corporation of China

@@starfucks5327 SAIC has a quite a few joint ventures with legacy automakers but itself is not an ev expert.

Many reviewers have been vocal about the wobbly handling on the BYD Atto. but state it impresses compared to the MG4 in evey other areas which feels cheap.

well lots of Teslas are made in china too..... guess you never said that kind of thing to Elon

Just get a undercarriage treatment against rust, problem solved. I ordered a Seal here in Denmark and bought the treatment as well from the BYD dealer. We share the same clima as people in the UK 🤷‍♂️

I think they have got the price well off in the UK. The base model doesn't have some key features that most people look for these days, and for a decent range you need the Comfort, which is £30k. Not cheap, and there are better EVs out there for that price, particularly if you don't mind a few miles on the clock.

Premium LR is $47850 driveway here in South Australia, and then there is 3k cash back from the State Government. Definitely worth considering and my wife loves the funky Pink.

Toyota and Honda etc in Japan are also half priced...... what's your point?

@@fatdoi003 Point is they are far too expensive outside China. read my comment.

@@ISuperTed so what? why target chinese cars?? i paid double on germany cars here in AU.... any cars outside their own country bound to be more expensive

Rather than immediately discount the Dolphin, why not see a car, discuss your concerns with the staff and have a test drive. You may be pleasantly surprised.

I have driven a Dolfin. One may expect scratchy plastic but in reality the finishing touch is high standard. My opion the looks of an MG are modern, The dolfin is timeless.

So expensive😂

Check and see if the BYD Seagull is coming, if you want cheap.

​@@JingZhang-mp5ng what are you comparing your Statement with please?

yes, you just told us Brian, that the seat is one piece, this rules it out for me, which is a bit of a bugger as we are going to have to fork out another 50% for the Kona.

​@@GingerRuss75 At this stage the Seagull isn't coming to Australia.

A tidily applied wrap will fix that.

I think people would pay to delete the rear badge, or at least change it to a plain BYD logo. The problem is that there will likely be someone in China that will flatly refuse to accept anyone wouldn't like to see that on the car, and would take offence at the mere suggestion - so I can't see it being possible to remove without a third-party hack, or a vinyl wrap as mentioned. The same has happened with Chinese smartphones, although over time they adapt to different markets - which BYD, MG and others are clearly going to do in the coming years.

I also quite like design. It has more character than the Atto 3 which is more Chinese generic design. It looks better in person, but not all variants. I bought the light grey version which has also different rims.

Yes I have Tinitus, and even indicators can get me on edge, but that's just me.

That’s a very fair comparison. My parents-in-law have a Jazz and it’s also a very easy car to drive and live with. Good point. Very similar.

Yes. It’s like a rocker switch. Push up for reverse, down for drive. But then I suppose that’s how we’ve used automatic transmission levers for years. Forward for reverse and park, back for drive.

I filmed this at the UK launch.

Well aren't you in for a surprise.

how on the money you are.

???

You know nothing mate, other than you read in your chip wrappers

Childish comment

The idea of not needing to use the brakes would play a large role in my purchase decision. I’d definitely want 1-pedal driving

Regen only captured about 40% of the energy back. The most efficient way of driving is still cruising, which is how the BYD system is designed.

Dream on as far as UK goes. 30k for a Dolphin….not going to be more than 5k less for a Seagull

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P73KmleCuBg.html Near the end the presenter lists the current price £8800@@chriss4949

No chance really. It starts from $10K in China for the cheapest LHD model. Add $2K for RHD mods and extra safety features needed for EU safety. Add on $1K shipping and logistics, 10% import duty, 15% stealers profit, 20% VAT on top. Comes in just under $20K or £16K. Likely they will import the higher end trims so it may make it under £20K if you are lucky.

There is a smaller battery model coming this year at that price.

I purchased mine for £26k with a discount.

How did it go? Am interested to hear your thoughts!

​@feline-fox Didn't disappoint. Took it for a good 45 min test drive, through city streets and motorway. Amazing car. Really high quality interior. Drives excellently, and packs a serious punch when needed. Only gripe was some of the safety systems were a bit over sensitive, but I imagine these will be fixed with over air updates in time. In the meantime, I'd plan to just disable them. Overall I'd give it 8.5/10. Deposit is down, so will be collecting early Jan everything going to plan.

@@danielkierannevin9081 That's good to hear. I might have to consider a test drive as just received an offer through Octopus Leasing for free offpeak charging for the whole lease. My wife would tell me we don't need another EV but I'm tempted.

compared to id3 at 44k, this is inexpensive. everything is expensive in UK.

​@@qilu2004 Cars maybe but it's not true everything is expensive in the UK. Food is cheaper than most other developed countries.

Here down under, it's 6 years on the car, 8 years on the Battery, and 150, 000kms.

But it does, so I have to point out where those cost saving measures are, and it’s in the quality of the materials used. It’s then up to those looking to buy to ascertain if that’s something they are willing to put up with to have a car at a lesser cost. That’s all.

Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. Glad you enjoyed it. The reason we compared it to the VW I.D3 and Megane is because that is where BYD are pitching it, a C-sector hatch competing with those cars. And in terms of its size, whilst it might not look it, that’s where it sits.

The price of the car in China as reported is a furphy, and completely irrelevant. Perhaps you should emigrate to China.

Ben it's irrelevant how much its reported to be in China. There are big Government rebates over there that distort the price.

@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 I didn't comment on the pricing in China.

I did, yes.

@@AutoEV BYD didn't sell more cars. They sold more plug in EVs than VW. This year the lead is growing faster than ever, about 5x more year to date.

You mean like Tesla, imported from China, Model Y is the best selling EV in UK.

@@jim8149err no, Tesla have a good rep for dealer network support….im talking about MG and new brands like ByD , keep up 😅

I heard that the specs are a lot less in china though

​@@petern5802they are, and we are NOT in China.

VAT on top. Plus, you can't simply take an exchange rate and transfer that retail cost from one country to another

Don't the international models have a totally different front end and choice of batteries?

did you ever complain about Japanese cars as well?? beoz they're also 2x more expensive in UK than in Japan....

nice big profit margin for BYD!

how come honda civic in japan cost between 18k--22k and in uk 35-40k??

@@decimal1815 Naah, 25% for HMRC, 15% for UK Stealers, A bit for Danish shipping, 20% for RHD and Euro Safely regs. BYD gross margins about 20% currently.

No, he would. I tell it like it is, irrespective of where a car is from. See how I rate MG but don’t car much for the Vauxhall Corsa if you want proof of that. So please don’t label me as prejudice towards a Chinese car. I happen to like a lot of them. But this one could be better.

​@@AutoEVyour review shows otherwise mate

@@JonySmith-bb4gx so if I say a car isn’t good enough, it’s not because it’s failing in anyway, it’s just that I don’t like the country it’s made in? What a ridiculous comment to make. My review of the BYD Atto3, the MG4, the MG5, the MG ZS says otherwise. But don’t let that fact get in the way of your conspiracy theory…..

Yes they are. And?

@@AutoEV And... people should think very carefully about where they send their resources when they buy a car (or any other product). When you buy an MG, you are directly contributing to the financial resources of the Chinese Communist Party totalitarian government. When you buy a BYD, you are indirectly doing the same. Let's be clear, the Chinese Government is not a benevolent dictatorship. Ask the Uighers about life as an outlier under Xi. They also are determined to grow their span of geographic control. Unfortunately, you also support the CCP when you buy an iPhone or many other manufactured products. However, at least when you buy a Toyota/Mazda/VW/etc, the retail profits are going to shareholders in a democracy.

The MG4 already disrupted the market massively, this brand needed to do something massive to disrupt even more... and it just didn't.

They can slowly drop prices. And they might. Ironically the most disruptive Chinese car so far imo is the Xpeng G9 and then in the top trim. €77K but better tech and luxury than a €125K Mercedes EQE SUV here in the Netherlands. Mine is coming next week :-).

They are behaving conservative in Europe market because they are afraid of EU reaction.

@@Espakho yeah, the EU has already threatened to raise all Chinese car prices because they are undercutting European cars. just stupid.

@@Dreadpirateflappy yeah... is not that we are inefficient, is that chinese cars probably get huge subsidies...