BYU Expels Students that Leave the Church 

Good for her!

@@jonjahr3403 She didn't have to take it. Plus, other churches are far more judgemental and heartless than Mormons.

@@paarthurnax8519 No! Many Mormons are very judgemental, and the church with a lot of the things its leaders have taught definitely doesn't help. The Mormon church also definitely has a persecution complex. You're very naive!

Not very believable. In the first place, BYU would never offer a job to an outsider who has a continuing history of doing contrary to what the church teaches. For example, if the person were a smoker, they'd surely be asked to stop smoking, or at the least, never be seen smoking on campus. And if they had a history of speaking favorably of abortion, they'd never be offered a position. It just goes with the logical territory -

@@scotthullinger4684 And you're very naive if you think that!

Thank you, I'm glad you found it insightful.

No, not really. Especially when taking into account the financial cost involved. BYU isn't cheap, but it surely IS when compared to a host of other universities. BYU is where you go to learn something. Many other universities are where you go to purchase a status symbol. That status symbol is "only" $100,000 tuition per semester. Harvard, for example, is where Goddamn fools go. Such people have no real substance.

THEN LEAVE

Not if you want a genuine education. Nothing better than BYU - especially at the price. Not inexpensive, but INFINITELY less expensive than Ivy League universities, the sort of schools which constantly take a royal shit on the USA and its founders. BYU educates without any worldly indoctrination. No brain washing occurs. But enemies of the university will surely tell you quite the exact opposite.

I’m not sure to what school you are referring when you wrote, “I taught there.” Your sentence was difficult to follow, and seemed to change subjects multiple times.

There are plenty of non-LDS students, but there are 0 post-LDS students. We are not only talking about students that are excommunicated for sexual sin, drinking, drugs, etc., we are also talking about students that simply choose to change their religious affiliation.

See how you want to see it. Every religion has strict rules and regulations that every member has to follow. As sad as it is, there are faiths that do far worse to their members than what mormons do. If you don't want to follow the strict rules of the BYU campus, then don't go there. You have the Liberty to go where you want to study. Ostracizing people that disagree with you is wrong but if that person causes nothing but problems for the school, it's teachers and it's students, then they are going to be facing consequences. You are blowing this completely out of proportion.

​@@paarthurnax8519NO, they're not you are simplifying that is not a simple matter at all.

@@jonjahr3403 It is that simple. You can't follow the rules of the school, then don't go there. Stop your whining.

@@paarthurnax8519 So many of you are missing the point. This is not about that. It is about people going to BYU as a believing faithful member and then losing that faith. You do realize that can happen, right?

@@jonjahr3403 Sorry, but people should think about that before going to the school. They have a strict honor code, regardless if you are a member or not. You break them, you face the consequences.

Not true,. This is all anti Mormon propaganda

"Disaffiliation from [The Church] automatically results in the withdrawal of the student's ecclesiastical endorsement and the loss of good Honor Code standing." This is the official policy; I just added a link to the source in the description of this video.

@@Glass-Looker ok that makes if someone isn’t willing to live by the honor code of the school.

@@kristinrichmond8185 yes Mormon or non Mormon

@@michaelparks5669 I’m sorry I don’t understand. Can you clarify?

It is a near certainty that those who posted this and those who back this view are likely the very ones this video is talking about. If you no longer wish to walk the paths you first chose, you have freedom to leave but don't demand the same privileges you had stir up contention because you can't have your cake and eat it too.

@@djlarkin76 Hello, I posted this video. I did not post this to stir up contention, but to encourage improvement at BYU. BYU is a great university and I'm glad I had the opportunity to attend, but I struggled mentally and emotionally. I just want to prevent future students from going through the same struggles.

@@Glass-Looker - I have a hunch that you would have struggled mentally and emotionally regardless of which university you ended up attending. I hate to say it, but you were blatantly immature, just like the current day students who are now whining & moaning about each and every expectation they encounter at school. Let's remember that BYU students actually sign a commitment to agree to the standards before they are accepted at the university. It's surely NO mystery that it's a religious school. It's meant to prepare students to be in the world, but not of the world.

Hahaha! Show me ONE!

@@kalepeacockSure, "Mormon Church Telling Young Men They No Longer Have a Choice About Serving Missions" This is in addition to the infamous video of Bednar telling young men that they didn't have a choice about going on a mission.

@@kalepeacock"Elder Bednar: Mormon Moral Agency - You Are Not Free To Do What You Want"

Bologna. You can always ask forgiveness and nobody's walking around with a leash on your neck to make you do the way they want You too. You either do it your way or you do it God's way. But you will never be forced it's all up to you

@@colinmccann7123You didn't watch the videos did you.

I don’t think you actually watched the video.

Watch the video before commenting next time.

I spoke with the director of the honor code office and they told me it would be impossible to continue at BYU if I withdrew from the church. I have the full recording if you’d like to listen.

There are many non-members that attend BYU.

@@garyjohnson8026 - THAT is a genuine curiosity -

Better universities than BYU? Hardly, especially at the price. BYU isn't pricey compared to most universities. And it all depends on what your goals and values are. If your goal is to party and raise hell, then BYU is not the place for you.

Always research the university you're applying to that is what an open day is for and the university website. BYU has an honour code which is known about all over the world unless you live under a rock.

How is "don't stop believing in this church" a real rule?

@@help4343 Always read the small print of any organsation. If it is a religious school your going to do religious things. Research all your university options. It is what UK Sixth Formers do before filling in their UCAS form.

You can get a temple divorce from your former wife.

Wasn't it YOUR choice to get sealed to that adulterous child abusive ex-wife in the first place? Besides, if she is what you say she is, and she doesn't repent, she won't be sealed to you in the end, because she didn't keep her covenants.

You are a liar period .

Wrong.

As you can tell from the comment section, there are many that did not know about this policy before, and there are many that still don't believe this policy even exists. I did not know about this policy when I applied, was admitted, or even while I was at BYU. I only found out about this policy when I was prepared to leave the church. You can claim I was negligent and didn't dive deep into all of the policies, but neither did any of my friends and family that attended BYU; this policy was new to all of them when I told them.

@@Glass-Looker I live in the UK and know that BYU has an honour code of conduct for its students. A simple google is what is needed. People within the church and outside of the church need to start reading the church's general handbook which is online and open to all to read on the church's website. Everyone needs to visit the church's educational places website. Research a university before you go and same with a church you belong too. Every member is responsible for their own membership, testimony and religious understanding. A lot has change within the church regarding policies and policies outside of the church. Everyone has to take charge of their own spiritual pathway in the end.

They would want to continue attending BYU if they’d already been there for 3-4 years and were close to graduating.

@@Glass-LookerIf you decide to leave the church after you graduate, they don't take your degree away retroactively. If you decide as an active student that your honor demands that your name be removed from the records of the church - then that church whose tithing funds have subsidized your education to that point has already documented the prescribed consequences. Your choice: be a hypocrite, fly under the radar, graduate, and then jump ship...or be true to your honor and head for the exit. We can honor your conscience, while holding you accountable to the to the standards you agreed to.

@@JamesWrightLBC I chose to be true to my conscience and I withdrew from BYU in my 9th semester so I could withdraw from the Church. I walked away from BYU after 4 years with no degree, simply because I chose to change my religion.

Such people just want to raise hell, and nothing but - (Those Mormons who leave the church, and yet still want to attend BYU nevertheless.)

@@scotthullinger4684 They didn't leave before attending BYU, dumbass. They lost faith during

You need to watch the video before you criticize it.

@@Glass-Looker I am not criticizing.....I am saying to lay out the facts...tuthfuly....I don't see any one on one interviews in this video with academic and church leaders backing up the statements.........just like the statement below is not true....that some one not of a different faith who was offered a teaching position would have to live with a Mormon family a give up coffee......

Also......They have a strict honor code, regardless if you are a member or not. You break them, you face the consequences. When a student or factuality break a contract or honor code...and get fired or kicked out .....then fess up to it....go some where else.

@@davidwoods267 I have linked the source to the policy in the description. I have a one on one interview if you would like to listen. I met with the director of the honor code office for about 20 minutes before I withdrew from BYU.

Quite a talented mental gymnast we've got here Edit: I spelled gymnast wrong at first. How embarrasing!

@@aaronchidester806can’t refute, so ad hominem it is.

@@HankRearden Even though arguments in youtube commments section usually go straight to ad hominem, my comment was a joke about your style of argument, not your character. So I don't think it counts as ad hominem

@@HankRearden I'd be down to refute your argument, but I just assumed from past experiences in youtube comment sections that it would be pointless. I'm sure you can relate. But if you're interested, here goes: If a BYU student realizes they don't believe in the church anymore and wants to change religions, they cannot just switch to paying full tuition while still keeping the rules. This isn't a matter of employment like the military. It's a matter of belief, and should be protected as religious freedom. Also, BYU isn't an academy for religious training. It's ostensibly an academic university with an LDS faith-friendly environment. The board of directors may hope the school produces faithful lifelong members, but it can't be an accredited university while punishing students for their religious choices unrelated to their education. The mental gymnastics come in when you pretend that it's crazy to call this a religious freedom problem. They're literally depriving students of opportunities because of a change of religious beliefs. Switch this to any other belief, and honestly consider if this seems fair to you. What if you were an atheist student at an atheist university, and you found that you believed in Jesus? It would be fair for you to lose your subsidy that you had been given for being an atheist student, but they're kicking you out. You're willing to sign an agreement that you won't proselitize at school, but no such agreement exists. You're being kicked out, no questions asked, and half of your credits won't transfer, so you pretty much have to start from scratch at another university, all because you believe in Jesus. Because they view you as a traitor. Now, maybe the board of directors hoped to produce good atheist students, but does that make their actions fair? Does it make it any less a violation of religious freedom? I hope you can honestly consider my argument. I look forward to seeing your response.

@@aaronchidester806 ive got no problem with people who want byu to change its policy, but to position it as a matter of religious freedom is ridiculous. No one has a right to attend a private religious school. If someone insists on making the argument anyway, then how does the it not violate byu’s freedom of religion? Compelling a religion to provide education to certain people or compelling a religion in any such manner is a greater affront to religious freedom than merely enforcing contacts/agreements made by every matriculating byu student.

BYU has many non Mormon students. the only thing they are required it that they must take a religious class.

"Disaffiliation from [The Church] automatically results in the withdrawal of the student's ecclesiastical endorsement and the loss of good Honor Code standing." This is the official policy; I just added a link to the source in the description of this video.

Not so !!

If a person asks Islam leaders for help in joining Islam, does that mean they'll ask you if you were a Mormon? I very seriously doubt it.

David Wood says your just confused,!!! Mad hamamd.