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the history of the letter c
00:00 - intro
01:49 - chapter one: enter gaml
04:57 - chapter two: the grand switcheroo
10:19 - chapter three: voicelessness
14:59 - chapter four: Appius and Ruga
19:56 - chapter five: palatalization
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@loweffortproductions1985
@loweffortproductions1985 2 года назад
Not gonna lie, I thought this was going to be a 30-minute shitpost consisting of a single C note.
@adityavenkat9087
@adityavenkat9087 2 года назад
I did also and I got this story of C
@ttacos
@ttacos 2 года назад
Fr
@ReverendInsanityPromoter
@ReverendInsanityPromoter 2 года назад
^
@lovelykitty42
@lovelykitty42 2 года назад
same
@graysonboi9301
@graysonboi9301 2 года назад
Same
@blunderbus2695
@blunderbus2695 3 года назад
"But that's Z", the thrilling sequel to "So that's Y"
@kmqzakarlove
@kmqzakarlove 3 года назад
I love it when he makes us wait for the sentence to end to no avail
@mrkitty1997
@mrkitty1997 3 года назад
Tell me Y, _Ain't nothing but a heaaaaaart ache_ ;v
@thomas4841
@thomas4841 3 года назад
can't wait for the next instalment
@CarMedicine
@CarMedicine 3 года назад
it's actually "So that's Y" not "And that's Y"
@fuuryuuSKK
@fuuryuuSKK 3 года назад
And the third part, "you'll C"
@carsonianthegreat4672
@carsonianthegreat4672 Год назад
The fact that a blind man had so much influence on our writing system is hilarious, absurd, and awesome.
@WhizzKid2012
@WhizzKid2012 5 месяцев назад
you mean appius claudius caecus ?
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 2 месяца назад
Do remember that text at the time was commonly written on wax tablets or carved in stone, both of which are inherently tactile media. A blind man couldn’t read papyrus scrolls, but those were expensive, so primarily saved for long form media.
@eos_aurora
@eos_aurora 2 года назад
As someone who is only mildly interested in studying language, this series does often devolve into word salad but I love it
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Год назад
Imagine my pain as someone who doesn’t really care but somehow got sucked down this rabbit hole
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried Год назад
@@jmurray1110 I'm not sure if I'm enjoying this or in pain
@ILikedGooglePlus
@ILikedGooglePlus 3 года назад
I had a nightmare last night where I made a conlang of "Simplified English" and removed the letter "C" so Jan Misali showed up at the foot of my bed and recited this video at me
@halyoalex8942
@halyoalex8942 3 года назад
I can't believe Jan Misali is your sleep paralysis demon.
@ILikedGooglePlus
@ILikedGooglePlus 3 года назад
@@halyoalex8942 Can't you?
@hohotash
@hohotash 3 года назад
i relate to your username
@hohotash
@hohotash 3 года назад
@@taududeblobber221 dude, me also.
@Annie-df9ky
@Annie-df9ky 2 года назад
But... He totally would
@yeahuh4128
@yeahuh4128 3 года назад
people: lets remove all Cs! programmers: *starts sweating*
@polyrosen7737
@polyrosen7737 2 года назад
Can’t wait to design my website front end in sss
@DarkPortall
@DarkPortall 2 года назад
is it k++ or s++
@yeahuh4128
@yeahuh4128 2 года назад
@@DarkPortall S seems to be a better option.
@theninjamaster67
@theninjamaster67 2 года назад
@@yeahuh4128 S#
@keagan2509
@keagan2509 2 года назад
@@theninjamaster67 SEE#
@trbz_8745
@trbz_8745 2 года назад
At this point if we want a completely consistent language we'd have to build a new one with a new alphabet from the ground up
@eumorpha876
@eumorpha876 2 года назад
and then jan Misali could do a review on it and put it in his show Conlang Critic!
@XDtoMeOld
@XDtoMeOld Год назад
Yes
@jacksonsmith2955
@jacksonsmith2955 Год назад
@@XDtoMeOld no, you just interpret the letters with different, more consistent rules. that's what pretty much all conlangs do. same alphabet.
@eshafto
@eshafto Год назад
Give it a couple hundred years and it will be as messy as any other language--'cause that's how the peoples do.
@Ben-li9zb
@Ben-li9zb Год назад
yes please
@suomeaboo
@suomeaboo Год назад
I love Xhosa's repurposing of c, q, and x for its 3 primary click consonants - /ǀ/, /ǃ/, and /ǁ/. They have other click consonants too, but they all fall under these 3 primary groups.
@schmourt
@schmourt 3 года назад
As a Courtney with a sister named Cierra and another named Cheyenne I can pretty securely say I like and understand the versatility of C.
@fizzyegg
@fizzyegg 3 года назад
i can c why
@joethehobo8705
@joethehobo8705 2 года назад
Kourtney, Sierra, and Xeyenne (x being ch because x can be replaced with ks)
@milic5068
@milic5068 2 года назад
As a non native english speaker I have no idea how any of those names are pronounced lmao
@iksskan9147
@iksskan9147 2 года назад
@@milic5068 my man Core-tenny, see-era, chain-ee (I think) Also am non native speaker.
@Tornnnado
@Tornnnado 2 года назад
@@milic5068 pretty sure it’s “Court-knee,” “See-era,” and “Shy-anne.”
@dieselguitar1440
@dieselguitar1440 3 года назад
xQc really named himself after the three English letters closest to being redundant.
@MissPoplarLeaf
@MissPoplarLeaf 3 года назад
That's some symbolism, alright.
@zephr8786
@zephr8786 3 года назад
petition to start calling him "cuh cuh cuh" (which in hindsight i realise could be reformed to be spelt kkk,,, hmmmmmm)
@sugxi
@sugxi 2 года назад
Ah a fellow juicer
@gamerrfm9478
@gamerrfm9478 2 года назад
@@zephr8786 no, call him /xqc/
@maxliu7576
@maxliu7576 2 года назад
@@gamerrfm9478 that sounds pretty awesome ngl
@DDub04
@DDub04 Год назад
Also, the sound “kyuh” is predominantly represented with the letters “cu”. Cumulative, accuse, cure, cute, cube, etc. Sure you could replace it with “Ky” but it would give words like “Kyumulative”, which may also seem like it’s saying “Chi-yumulative” or “chi-umalative”. If we’re doing purely phonetic spelling, you get Kyoomuhluhtihv. Which looks like a Russian town name.
@MetalionsquadOfficial
@MetalionsquadOfficial Год назад
KYOOOOOO
@maybeanonymous6846
@maybeanonymous6846 Год назад
I'm brazilian and this made me LOL
@Oturan20
@Oturan20 Год назад
I know what I'm naming my next fictional Russian town. Kyoomuhluhtihv.
@meowcat7124
@meowcat7124 Год назад
As a Russian, that doesn't really look like a Russian town name, more like a weird mix of Finnish and Korean lol
@JG-vh6oy
@JG-vh6oy 10 месяцев назад
@@meowcat7124 isn’t that what russian is
@lyvindy0527
@lyvindy0527 Год назад
We probably need part 3, covering X which sounds like either 'ks' or 'z' Edit: Nevermind, maybe the letter J would be a better choice because it's pronounced so differently in other languages (Somehow the letter sounds like a Y in languages like German and Swedish and also sounds somewhat like H in Spanish)
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 Год назад
I don't think there is going to be one!
@TheRenegade...
@TheRenegade... Год назад
The Y is the original pronunciation
@ethanlamoureux5306
@ethanlamoureux5306 Год назад
X has at least 3 pronunciations: KS in Fix, GZ in Example, and Z in Xylophone. And J was originally just a shape variation, an I with a hook, so it makes perfect sense that it eventually came to stand for the sound of non-syllabic I, like our Y. That is how it is used in many languages today, including Latin. But some languages changed the Y sound into different sounds but kept the same letter, like the French, which is where we get our pronunciation of J.
@ethanlamoureux5306
@ethanlamoureux5306 Год назад
@@tkfandbfbfan Perhaps for you it has a KS sound, but for me and millions of others, the X in example is pronounced like the GS in eggs.
@uggupuggu
@uggupuggu Год назад
it has a k+jh sound in the word “luxury”
@GoHugACactus837
@GoHugACactus837 3 года назад
Judging by your calm voice, I’m surprised you didn’t ask me to try squarespace
@testlol_yt6844
@testlol_yt6844 2 года назад
Lol
@zekerdeath
@zekerdeath 2 года назад
yeah why is this such a common sponsor for soft voiced youtubers
@JordenJords
@JordenJords 2 года назад
NO I MISS SAM MAN WHY YOU GOTTA REMIND ME BRO 😭
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 2 года назад
*c*alm
@m0ssy_mushrooms217
@m0ssy_mushrooms217 2 года назад
RU-vidr: Don’t worry this isn’t a sponsorship for Squarespace! Viewer: whew RU-vidr: *slowly pulls out NORDVPN*
@spcxplrr
@spcxplrr 3 года назад
"what are we eating tonight honey" "kicken"
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 года назад
"tshikken"
@alexanderjoseph5380
@alexanderjoseph5380 3 года назад
it would have been kicen
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 3 года назад
@@alexanderjoseph5380 The double consonant is important. Maybe kiccen.
@jefflastnam8566
@jefflastnam8566 2 года назад
Tzikin
@michigo_
@michigo_ 2 года назад
Tsiken
2 года назад
Very descriptive thumbnail, 10/10.
@hypenheimer
@hypenheimer 2 года назад
Bot
@january1may
@january1may Год назад
Interesting side-note: the Cyrillic letter С looks exactly like the Latin letter C and also makes a /s/ sound (and it's even on the same place on the keyboard! infuriating Russians who accidentally use the wrong one) but it has its own very interesting history (the so-called "lunate sigma") and isn't even descended from gaml
@tangentfox4677
@tangentfox4677 Год назад
I feel like this further informs my feeling that we should stop caring about when s and c are used in sertain words. Because as long as one kan understand what they're reading, it's fine.
@poudink5791
@poudink5791 Год назад
@@tangentfox4677sure you can understand even if it's spelled wrong, but it also takes significantly longer to parse
@grugs6801
@grugs6801 3 года назад
the next letter episode should be about "r" so we could have a trill-ogy
@vari1535
@vari1535 3 года назад
That’d actually be an interesting one, considering the many different pronunciations of it in various romance languages!
@jjsdumbshit2792
@jjsdumbshit2792 3 года назад
x
@moises3545
@moises3545 3 года назад
@@icancu9680 no u
@thegoldengood4725
@thegoldengood4725 3 года назад
teollogy
@azimmeme9994
@azimmeme9994 3 года назад
@@vari1535 Romance languages? Lovish?
@petermarsella6537
@petermarsella6537 2 года назад
We're ignoring the key argument: We can't call it the YMCA anymore, and that song by the Village People is now obsolete.
@st1220
@st1220 2 года назад
it would b called ymka
@modmaker7617
@modmaker7617 2 года назад
YMSA
@BeepBoy
@BeepBoy 2 года назад
@@modmaker7617 ☹️
@renaigh
@renaigh 2 года назад
YMSA*
@Voidio2454
@Voidio2454 2 года назад
@@renaigh doesn't have the same ring to it.
@TarporLegend
@TarporLegend Год назад
I love that this video is well researched, concise, and provides necessary context for each given situation. A beautiful exploration of history; a beautiful perspective of modern language. I wish that every RU-vidr on the platform made videos like you
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 2 года назад
Just a note, when you showed how Polish used C, there was a mistake: Polish is actually /tɕi/, and the palatal phonemes in Polish are handled very much like a Romance language would handle them
@jobda1211
@jobda1211 2 года назад
Theoretically there exist rare borrowed words with ⟨ci⟩ pronounced as /t͡si/ for example (probably the most common instance of it) „cis” as in „tłuszcze cis”, „cispłciowy” and as a name of a musical note
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 2 года назад
@@jobda1211 Yes but that's marginal
@soopFPS
@soopFPS 2 года назад
your use of dark mode for your complicated visuals is much appreciated by my drunk, night owl eyes.
@quesokid4959
@quesokid4959 2 года назад
A drunk person wouldn’t type this.
@diamond_hcr2
@diamond_hcr2 2 года назад
@@quesokid4959 👆a drunk person would type this
@sovietman4874
@sovietman4874 2 года назад
@@diamond_hcr2 i can confirm
@dhrextinction983
@dhrextinction983 2 года назад
I thing I shit myself I can't tell
@bluanim8s494
@bluanim8s494 2 года назад
@@dhrextinction983 now drucjb
@korkari2988
@korkari2988 2 года назад
When i don't know what to answer in a multiple choice questions, C is the way to go. C is my comfort letter
@ollybrowningg
@ollybrowningg 2 года назад
c for cunt, that’s why we love it
@Kagomai15
@Kagomai15 2 года назад
Where did this kids rumour start I'm so curious, everyone I've ever talked to where this subject came up has encountered the "when in doubt, choose c" bias in regards to multiple choice tests 😂
@linuslaw9648
@linuslaw9648 2 года назад
Because from experience it’s actually mostly c for some reason
@bigchungus894
@bigchungus894 2 года назад
I answered C on a test today that wasn’t even multiple choice
@helze2
@helze2 2 года назад
@@bigchungus894 correct choice
@midnitecata
@midnitecata Год назад
"ch" is quite important to me, for it is one of the only instances where "c" has its own sound! also, your videos are so fun and interesting to watch!
@gcbreptile4571
@gcbreptile4571 2 года назад
I used to think C was pointless, but you have completely changed my mind and opened my eyes to the beautiful letter. Thank you sooo much!
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 2 года назад
Now you like C right?
@gcbreptile4571
@gcbreptile4571 2 года назад
@@jamburga321 Yep. I suppose I do
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 2 года назад
@@gcbreptile4571 c is a very important letter in English
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 2 года назад
And it also looks cool like a crescent moon, doesn't it, cool crescent shape right?
@gcbreptile4571
@gcbreptile4571 2 года назад
@@jamburga321 Yes, it does have a nice shape :)
@ketzelkomi
@ketzelkomi 2 года назад
I thought this was gonna be a meme, not a whole backstory of the letter c 😭
@ivywivy
@ivywivy 2 года назад
bruh same
@sunghoen6242
@sunghoen6242 2 года назад
Fr
@kiawaiia
@kiawaiia 2 года назад
omg same 😭💀
@victoriasavova6811
@victoriasavova6811 2 года назад
c lore
@dennis_s
@dennis_s 2 года назад
I respect the grind, tho. I think that he knows that most think his vids are shit posts, but throws us off intentionally.
@TheGeopigMan
@TheGeopigMan 3 года назад
The real play is to redefine "c" to represent the "ch" sound
@BracketsAttackets
@BracketsAttackets 2 года назад
Based. That's what I do with a lot of my characters' names lmao.
@jankkhvej434
@jankkhvej434 2 года назад
or something like „ts” sound
@miray3596
@miray3596 2 года назад
Actually in Turkish, c is like the g sound in the word "german" and the G in Turkish is like the g sound in great. We also have ç fo ch and ş for sh.
@felicityedwards1306
@felicityedwards1306 2 года назад
@@miray3596 Turkish is a superior language and I will die on that hill
@TheFlyfly
@TheFlyfly 2 года назад
or ch becomes tsh
@tecknokittyd
@tecknokittyd Год назад
I wondered why french had such a long name for Y (ygreck) when everything else was very similar to english and in both languages the letter names are very short, never knew it was actually being called "Greek I", neat!
@abloogathelawyer4477
@abloogathelawyer4477 2 года назад
I have spent 30 minutes of my life watching the history of the letter C... And I regret NOTHING! Seriously, your voice is so soothing that I didn't even feel time passing. Best thing is, I have learned something! (And thank you for dark mode, my eyes appreciate you)
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 2 года назад
Now you like C right?
@azaan.7711
@azaan.7711 2 года назад
man pulled off 1.3 million views with just a “c” as his thumbnail and the title, and managed to get the vid to be of almost half an hour. legend
@adrian_chr843
@adrian_chr843 Год назад
i thought that it was about the c programming language.
@camo5553
@camo5553 Год назад
I thought that it was about the speed of light
@nsa3967
@nsa3967 Год назад
@@adrian_chr843 I thought it was gonna be some rando shilling for rust ngl
@tristancoffin
@tristancoffin Год назад
@@adrian_chr843 me too
@MochaFur1
@MochaFur1 Год назад
vague title and thumbnail. could mean anything
@redtaileddolphin1875
@redtaileddolphin1875 3 года назад
The punchline “that’s [Letter]” remains god-tier
@sofia.eris.bauhaus
@sofia.eris.bauhaus 3 года назад
it's complete S
@DeenBoi
@DeenBoi 3 года назад
as it should B
@tookiecar1
@tookiecar1 Год назад
that’s E
@NithinJune
@NithinJune Год назад
19:55 Jan did it again 😂 We can't let them keep getting away with this😂😂
@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz
@DontYouDareToCallMePolisz 10 месяцев назад
His name is Misali
@samhaine6804
@samhaine6804 Год назад
more please! this is my favourite series of yours
@cellina.starfire
@cellina.starfire 3 года назад
Man, I should have known you’d do the “that’s y” joke again. Still got me though.
@godminnette2
@godminnette2 3 года назад
I regret scrolling down to read this comment.
@mskiptr
@mskiptr 3 года назад
Whe wha? How did i miss that!?
@ferociousfeind8538
@ferociousfeind8538 3 года назад
an advertisement kicked in at just the right time so I was left with "was that 'so, that said', or 'so that's zed'????" for a full five seconds
@jaksida300
@jaksida300 3 года назад
Here’s tree.
@guaposneeze
@guaposneeze 3 года назад
Conlang review: C has an unusually limited orthography compared to most conlangs, which makes it relatively easy for new conlang enthusiasts to learn. The alphabet is as follows: "c, C." The phonemic inventory is more diverse, consisting of "s, ch, sh, and k," depending on context.
@xyldkefyi
@xyldkefyi 3 года назад
C has a very strange orthography, using not only the letters of the English alphabet but also additional symbols such as +-/*=, which are also pronounced and serve as one letter abbreviations for mathematical expressions. The language is descended from English and reused English words like if, for, while and abbreviations of English words like int(eger), float (ing point number), (char)acter. It removes a lot of ambiguity from the English language by giving very specific definitions to these so called keywords. Interestingly, text modifiers like ();, and many more are essential to correct C syntax and give structure to what can often seem like a random collection of words and letters. The most interesting feature of the C language has to be the possibility to define your own words, allowing you to express extremely complicated things with just a letter, if you want to. In fact, text written in the c language are usually just one word (a lot of speakers use "main"), that is then defined to mean everything you want to say. This is a strange concept that has so far only been observed in the programming language family.
@takeryu7014
@takeryu7014 3 года назад
lang*
@purpleisdebeste
@purpleisdebeste 3 года назад
Don’t forget č, ç, ć, Č, Ç and Ć
@globalincident694
@globalincident694 3 года назад
@@xyldkefyi ah yes, the well known types int, float and acter
@xyldkefyi
@xyldkefyi 3 года назад
@@globalincident694 yea... well spotted xD
@joaopedroauriemo
@joaopedroauriemo Месяц назад
I love these letter lore videos! It would be cool to make this a series. Not necessarily for all letters, but for the ones with an interesting origin or that are used in many different ways across different languages. I guess the “w” video already covered five different letters but there are still more to pick from. Best, love jan Misali videos
@alimtimm7355
@alimtimm7355 Год назад
Just discovered this masterpiece. Awesome work man.
@nitrodark7027
@nitrodark7027 3 года назад
Did you know? jan Misali is currently in the hospital for back pain due to the fact that he's been carrying the entire conlanging community
@tristannaess2558
@tristannaess2558 3 года назад
Not completely fair, there’s also biblaridion and artifexian
@philipschloesser
@philipschloesser 3 года назад
you mean "the entire conglang community"?
@takashi.mizuiro
@takashi.mizuiro 3 года назад
P Schlösser lol
@Katerina-kqkq
@Katerina-kqkq 3 года назад
I think you meant David J. Peterson*
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 3 года назад
@@philipschloesser what a cute fraud
@dieWeltkarte
@dieWeltkarte 3 года назад
am I sleep deprived or is "tooc off his cloac" (26:34) the funniest fucking thing I've seen in my life
@brinyazurista270
@brinyazurista270 2 года назад
you're sleep deprived.
@junoperberry
@junoperberry 2 года назад
both
@AJarOfYams
@AJarOfYams 2 года назад
Sleep deprived, and somewhat funny
@sambish3961
@sambish3961 2 года назад
Not sleep deprived, still hilarious
@doublex85
@doublex85 Год назад
I thinc it loocs pretty good. Tkange my mind.
@samhaine6804
@samhaine6804 2 года назад
more of these videos man! love em!
@TyTyTyTy200
@TyTyTyTy200 2 года назад
This is one of the best videos I've ever watched.
@TheExalaber
@TheExalaber 3 года назад
Now I really want to see a conlang review of the C programming language. "The C Language's insistence that all nouns should be placed at the beginning of the paragraph has lead to no end of confusion"
@SirLightfire
@SirLightfire 3 года назад
His next video should simply be titled "C++" with 0 explanation
@pawelharutiunow9622
@pawelharutiunow9622 3 года назад
“That’s how Middle C looked like. However, in Early Modern C, the word order has been significantly relaxed.”
@tech6hutch
@tech6hutch 3 года назад
Unlike more object-oriented languages, C follows a strict verb-subject-object word order.
@paulfragemann3333
@paulfragemann3333 2 года назад
@@tech6hutch Well thats the what most people do atleast... Within a company I worked for a few years back, we had an internal libary which always took the struct operating on as its last argument... At some point we decided as a team to rewrite that goddamn thing to be usuable without it breaking your brain every time... Atleast it was internally consistant...
@kleinesfilmroellchen
@kleinesfilmroellchen 3 года назад
Only on jan misali: "rad as heck" qualifying as a valid formal argument in a linguistic debate
@somebonehead
@somebonehead 3 года назад
27:19
@yanxishan6575
@yanxishan6575 3 года назад
Pinyin q is absolutely rad as heck
@Rolando_Cueva
@Rolando_Cueva 3 года назад
@@yanxishan6575 shi la
@joyu2105
@joyu2105 Год назад
Ah exactly what i needed at 12AM in the night, thank you youtube recomendations
@johnweber4504
@johnweber4504 2 года назад
My humor is so broken that I clicked on the video titled “c” and proceeded to laugh at a very unfunny ad thinking it was the video
@sleepybraincells
@sleepybraincells 2 года назад
...
@historicalfootnotes
@historicalfootnotes 3 года назад
Swear to god, if he makes a joke about this being a “Cquel”.... *sigh* I’m not mad... just disappointed...
@purpleisdebeste
@purpleisdebeste 3 года назад
You’ll C
@IONATVS
@IONATVS 3 года назад
Honestly, I C it as an absolute win. Puns are fun.
@TheZenytram
@TheZenytram 3 года назад
28:17
@bruhz_089
@bruhz_089 3 года назад
@@purpleisdebeste You'll
@leocomerford
@leocomerford 3 года назад
Look, just be glad he didn’t attempt a Sonic-fandom joke at 5:19 .
@aharonvarna5992
@aharonvarna5992 3 года назад
I used to be one of those people who thought we should be getting rid of letters like c, q, z and others now I'm one of those people who's like we should be adding letters to distinguish the voiced and unvoiced dental fricatives.
@GlaceonStudios
@GlaceonStudios 3 года назад
How about using Albanian _dh_ to represent dhe voiced variant so more often used dhan dhe Greek _th_ ? It looks a bit strange, but it's nothing one can't get familiar with (widh?).
@DavidCowie2022
@DavidCowie2022 3 года назад
@@GlaceonStudios Chambers dictionary (1983) says (widh, with).
@damianbrumfield3626
@damianbrumfield3626 3 года назад
Why not both?
@Frahamen
@Frahamen 3 года назад
The real issue with English spelling are the "vowels".
@masicbemester
@masicbemester 3 года назад
bring back þorn and eð
@ChintzleMcGrundle
@ChintzleMcGrundle Год назад
I never knew how much i needed this info, thank you
@tommasofogli8845
@tommasofogli8845 3 года назад
7:12 he didn't like the letter "z" because when someone pronounces it his tongue would resemble the tongue of dead people. (I studied it in school) Romans at the time were very superstitious. Love from Roma!
@Ondohir
@Ondohir 3 года назад
But the position of the tongue is the same with [s]
@godminnette2
@godminnette2 3 года назад
It says so on screen around 15:30 "Z was abhorrent to Appius Claudius, because it resembles in its expression the teeth of a corpse"
@kaengurus.sind.genossen
@kaengurus.sind.genossen 3 года назад
And I always thought the internet was the thing that made people go insane.
@anse7288
@anse7288 3 года назад
Ciao
@tommasofogli8845
@tommasofogli8845 3 года назад
@@Ondohir in Italian not quite
@perplexedon9834
@perplexedon9834 3 года назад
"I'd take redundancy over ambiguity any day". mi sona e ni: ala.
@Ondohir
@Ondohir 3 года назад
a a a!
@bringme1kscrubscribers10
@bringme1kscrubscribers10 3 года назад
I got my and gave up
@hollyfelis4197
@hollyfelis4197 3 года назад
i can't believe i didn't realize there was anything weird about _jan Misali_ making this statement until i saw this comment
@perplexedon9834
@perplexedon9834 3 года назад
@Mia yun Ruse because of ambiguity it could also be "we know that's not true" :)
@omargerardolopez3294
@omargerardolopez3294 3 года назад
my son and I: ???
@Nyaalexi
@Nyaalexi 11 месяцев назад
All this fulfilling info from a video that's titled with just a single letter. Fascinating.
@vegaomega6072
@vegaomega6072 Год назад
I cannot possibly believe you got me with that damn joke again. Unbelievable.
@GoldenSandslash15
@GoldenSandslash15 3 года назад
I hope we get twenty-six of these videos eventually. These are fun.
@gg1k
@gg1k 3 года назад
don't forget about old ampersand, & thorn now
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 3 года назад
He pretty much already covered the histories of F, V, U, and Y in his "w" video, and in this one, he pretty much already covered G. And unfortunately, a lot of letters are not as interesting as far as their histories are concerned. He could honestly cover all the remaining vowels in one video and include the history of J in it, and it probably would be less than 15 minutes.
@Cloiss_
@Cloiss_ 2 года назад
I don't think a video about every letter is the way to go here, but I'm sure there are several more interesting "history of writing" stories to be told (heck, they even made a playlist for it!)
@fikatrouvaille3670
@fikatrouvaille3670 2 года назад
@@Mercure250 then he shoULD DO THAT
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 2 года назад
@@fikatrouvaille3670 Agreed, I was just saying one video per letter wouldn't be as interesting as people might think. If he does all the letters, but group them together in just, like, 2-3 short videos, that would be cool.
@berrycade
@berrycade 2 года назад
I respekt how perfektly krafted this video was. It's Exsellent!
@themobiusfunction
@themobiusfunction 2 года назад
Eksellent
@tripppleccc54
@tripppleccc54 2 года назад
I have a problem with the spelling here.... Your name has an 0 instead of an o
@berrycade
@berrycade 2 года назад
@@tripppleccc54 you're right, how blasphemous. I must khange my name to "Exotik Lettuse". This kursed c is everywhere!
@gimbly8801
@gimbly8801 2 года назад
@@berrycade the kursed " "
@britishpigeoninahouse6917
@britishpigeoninahouse6917 2 года назад
Can someone translate please
@tahimwaicij
@tahimwaicij 5 месяцев назад
i love this letter because it looks like the letter כ and that letter also makes two sounds so it just clicks perfectly in my head
@bgtherobit
@bgtherobit Год назад
"this is the story of c" and that style of music following it made me fondly remember an old flash game i loved as a kid called The I of It. Nostalgia
@davidegaruti2582
@davidegaruti2582 3 года назад
"Did you die?" Z"sadly yes ..." Z"but i lived!"
@Tynach
@Tynach 3 года назад
"But I got better."
@LARAUJO_0
@LARAUJO_0 3 года назад
K: My death was... greatly exagerated
@Saturinus
@Saturinus 3 года назад
It's the Zombie letter! o.O
@georgesracingcar7701
@georgesracingcar7701 3 года назад
I did have a stroke reading this
@fabricatorzayac
@fabricatorzayac 2 года назад
Zed's dead
@sushiroll3795
@sushiroll3795 2 года назад
Simple answer: Because the "Ch" sound can't be expressed by any other letter or pair of letters. I've heard some people say the same thing about how "X" could be replaced by "Z," "Ex," "Cs," or "Ks." However, I think the most useful placement of the letter X is at the end of words like "tax" without making it look like a plural (tacs, taks, or tacks). Edit: Oh lord what have I done.
@rafasilva1265
@rafasilva1265 2 года назад
Then just keep C, but have it mean "ch" capter, scool, ets
@InfluxDecline
@InfluxDecline 2 года назад
@@rafasilva1265 The sounds of "ch" in those two words are different, so that wouldn't work
@EnjoySackLunch
@EnjoySackLunch 2 года назад
HUH?????
@shelbymurphy3579
@shelbymurphy3579 2 года назад
@@rafasilva1265 should be "skool"
@vela5074
@vela5074 2 года назад
The "Ch" in Chips and Chandelier couldn't be replaced by anything
@oliverwarren2793
@oliverwarren2793 2 года назад
this video changed my life
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 2 года назад
I've always loved the letter C but after seeing this, I started liking this letter even more, Thank you!!! :)
@perrincalzada9131
@perrincalzada9131 3 года назад
End Lyrics: Letter C has folks saying it should be removed, that without it the alphabet would be improved. It’s a common complaint, that’s misguided at best. No you can’t just replace C with K and with S. (~No you can’t just replace C with K and with S~) You know S becomes voiced intervocalically, and suffixes preserve etymology. If it’s so inconsistent why focus on C? When the quote unquote “problem” is much worse with G? If you were to cut C, then what you’d have in store, is you’re left with more problems than you had before. If you’ve learned nothing else, just remember this: English spelling reforms break more than they can fix. (~English spelling reforms break more than they can fix~)
@DanksterPaws
@DanksterPaws 3 года назад
End Lyriks: Letter C has folks saying it should be removed, that without it the alphabet would be improved. It’s a kommon komplaint, that’s misguided at best. No you kan’t just replase sie with K and with S. (~No you kan’t just replase C with K and with S~) You know S bekomes voised intervokalikally, and suffixes preserve etymology. If it’s so inkonsistent why fokus on C? When the quote on quote “problem” is much worse with G? If you were to kut C, then what you’d have in store, is you’re left with more problems than you had before. If you’ve learned nothing else, just remember this: English spelling reforms break more than they kan fix. (~English spelling reforms break more than they kan fix~)
@scapeist5019
@scapeist5019 3 года назад
Or just turn on captions
@kylekafka6636
@kylekafka6636 3 года назад
@@DanksterPaws Seems to work just fine :P
@Reubentheimitator6572
@Reubentheimitator6572 3 года назад
@@kylekafka6636 Yeah it does.
@a___ab___b9896
@a___ab___b9896 3 года назад
@@DanksterPaws The fact that you kept "q" makes it look so weird.
@jmiquelmb
@jmiquelmb 3 года назад
That's so cool to know that Y was originally called "I Grecca" (Greek I), because this is how is still called in my languages, Catalan and Spanish. I always wondered why the name
@voland6846
@voland6846 3 года назад
The Russian word for Y is игрек (igrek), presumably taken from the French
@nicodiaz2662
@nicodiaz2662 3 года назад
yeah i thought the same
@saskiaviking9447
@saskiaviking9447 2 года назад
In Polish "Y" is also called "igrek"
@levector2445
@levector2445 2 года назад
@@voland6846 can confirm y is still i grecque meaning greek i in France Edit: didn't know how to spell greek
@ExtremeBirdTypography
@ExtremeBirdTypography 2 года назад
As an English speaker in Canada who had to learn French in grade school, I was always extremely confused about why 'Y' had an insane name like "eegrek." It sounded like some Star Trek species or something. "Greek I" makes so much sense.
@qantuum7567
@qantuum7567 Год назад
really enjoying this comment, and makes me realize I somewhat unconscioulsly followed that pattern for my proto-conlang inventory... thing has a /ts/ affricate but no /t/, a /k/ but no ... Just clicks how these orthographies and phones were jammed around through history.
@septillion.
@septillion. Год назад
I love watching these videos because I get to sit here and pretend like I understand everything when I know I don't, and it's still entertaining to watch.
@ruipaiva3060
@ruipaiva3060 2 года назад
Every single person who uses night mode appreciate your time and effort into this. You're respected among the community.
@abyssosque
@abyssosque Год назад
What makes it even better is that this design choice is because their PC literally cannot handle anything more, made me respect them even more lmao
@tookiecar1
@tookiecar1 Год назад
@@abyssosque “You’re respected *among* the community.”
@LadyTink
@LadyTink 3 года назад
Also thank you VERY much for not falling for the "primitive vs advanced" or "Pure vs degenerate" Also side note, this feel like how Carl Sagan went over human evolution "however this path does not lead to us"
@CanoTheVolcano
@CanoTheVolcano 2 года назад
the song at the end is great!
@dominicdelprincipe2583
@dominicdelprincipe2583 2 года назад
The letter C is present in that most beautiful of English phrases, 'cellar door'. Aesthetics is enough for me to justify C's presence. Great vid!
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 2 года назад
That's why C is the best letter
@shelookstome8727
@shelookstome8727 Год назад
Agreed :)
@BrendanBow1
@BrendanBow1 2 года назад
24:07 I really appreciate how you pointed out that the /oʊ/ vs /aʊ/ problem is not only more important than "fixing" C, but also found it important enough to put it at the beginning of the list. The "bow" problem has been bugging me for years. signed, Brendan Bow
@ericmatevossian1962
@ericmatevossian1962 2 года назад
My guy signed his RU-vid comment. That's class you can't teach
@mawillix2018
@mawillix2018 2 года назад
@@ericmatevossian1962 He also ended his comment with a bow. ;)
@junoperberry
@junoperberry 2 года назад
boe or b ow
@boxed_in4357
@boxed_in4357 2 года назад
Do you spell that bow like bow the weapon, or bow the front part of a shit Edit: *I meant ship not shit
@dagoat8057
@dagoat8057 2 года назад
ç
@firsthandsuffering
@firsthandsuffering 3 года назад
The sequel we have all been waiting for
@justyouraveragefan855
@justyouraveragefan855 3 года назад
Beat me to it
@quarts_i_guess
@quarts_i_guess 3 года назад
the c-quel
@theairaccumulator7144
@theairaccumulator7144 3 года назад
@@quarts_i_guess kquel
@gorose9899
@gorose9899 10 месяцев назад
24:50 anyonewho has ever learned english has felt the relationship between these three so something about learning that relationship and where it came from is deeply beautiful
@dip8
@dip8 Год назад
Milions of videos with fire ass thumbnails, full of random capitalization titles and i of all things this title and thumbnail peaked my curiocity
@CalebJahnke
@CalebJahnke 3 года назад
I just recently started learning the C programming language. So I'm at the very very very beginner levels of learning. I've been watching a lot of videos about it. This video shows up in my recommendations. I click on it expecting it to be some breakdown of the history of the C language or something. I have to say that I'm happy I was wrong and found this video.
@Useroftherisingsun
@Useroftherisingsun 2 года назад
Good luck in your studies! Hope you'll be a cool C programmer soon
@official-obama
@official-obama Год назад
ah, but that's the Truttle1 video, not the jan Misali video
@evanswart480
@evanswart480 3 года назад
"Hey guys, it's Appius. Today I'm gonna be doing another makeup tutorial, so let's talk about why the letter Z is useless"
@clutchedbyanangel
@clutchedbyanangel 2 года назад
I'd watch a blind guy's makeup tutorial
@EnriqueLaberintico
@EnriqueLaberintico 2 года назад
Þ
@heart4brainzz
@heart4brainzz Год назад
i love these videos
@cryst_al91
@cryst_al91 Год назад
this changed my life
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 3 года назад
you did the tangent on "zed" just to make the "but that said" joke. kudos
@creeperlamoureux
@creeperlamoureux 3 года назад
Jan Misali's name was gonna be spelt Jan Micali, but his parents didn't want people to mispronounce it as Jan Mikali
@sojourner_303
@sojourner_303 3 года назад
Except Toki pona don’t have a C
@mgawalangmagawamwm
@mgawalangmagawamwm 3 года назад
jan miçali
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 года назад
"Jan Misali's name was gonna be spelt Jan Micali" Then I wonder how did it become spelled Mitch Halley.
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
@ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 3 года назад
But everyone pronounced it John instead of Jan
@jamburga321
@jamburga321 Год назад
@@sojourner_303 C and a lot of other letters, they have 14 letters
@tmarea1427
@tmarea1427 2 года назад
how the heck did i get more intrigued bu this video than every other video i could watch
@desmondruhling
@desmondruhling 2 года назад
You make such good videos!
@Kimbie
@Kimbie 2 года назад
8:11 Actually, sometimes in the same text! They had some early texts written like: say you began left- to-right, then you followed the text to its right end, down to the next line and read this one right-to-left, the next left-to-right, etc. kind of just following the page in a flow. I think that went archaic very early on but very interesting!
@wtc5198
@wtc5198 2 года назад
That was called boustrophedon
@jasonreed7522
@jasonreed7522 Год назад
That sounds like and amazing piece of worldbuilding for any fantasy/ancient culture. And also could be used as such a mind bending tactic in the modern world, especially for puzzles or just to troll people. (Once in english class i rotated my book upsidedown and read like normal to see how long it took the teacher to notice, it was fun, i think it took 5min)
@ellie8272
@ellie8272 2 года назад
"Languages being poorly designed is a good thing, actually" - Jan Misali
@Omnywrench
@Omnywrench 2 года назад
After ending the "W" video with a song from Between the Lions, i was expecting the end credits to have "C is for Cookie" from Sesame Street. but the actual song you got here is a pleasant surprise!
@axollyon
@axollyon 3 года назад
24:25 24:57 come on, you can't put the word examples "chimera", "mother", and "three" one after the other like that, you just can't do that
@mihaelandnate1
@mihaelandnate1 2 года назад
FMA...... cant believe I didn't understand at first
@goonchefstur
@goonchefstur 2 года назад
@@mihaelandnate1 plz explain I beg
@shledzguohn
@shledzguohn 2 года назад
@@goonchefstur in the video game MOTHER 3 (the sequel to the game known as Earthbound in the west), the... a "chimera" is... one of the more memorable enemies. :)
@goonchefstur
@goonchefstur 2 года назад
@@shledzguohn thank u!
@JRENZO10
@JRENZO10 2 года назад
no
@cerealssbu7545
@cerealssbu7545 2 года назад
Thank you for putting the first track of music in C-Major. I cannot thank you enough
@der_pinguin44
@der_pinguin44 Год назад
Beautiful, I love it.
@stupidsimmy
@stupidsimmy Год назад
i thought this was a shitpost but now i feel like watching this whole thing just to learn more about the letter C update: i have learned a lot about the letter C, thank you :)
@Salsmachev
@Salsmachev 3 года назад
Oh so it's not about using progamming languages in order to measure English orthography in preposterous units?
@paulfragemann3333
@paulfragemann3333 3 года назад
#include int main() { printf("I thought in was about C aswell :d "); return 0; }
@paulfragemann3333
@paulfragemann3333 3 года назад
I wrote that on a Phone with German spellcheck, it was awful but i Had to make that Joke...
@Salsmachev
@Salsmachev 3 года назад
@@paulfragemann3333 Hahahaha your dedication is appreciated
@dihydrogen
@dihydrogen 3 года назад
@@paulfragemann3333 where are the heckin semicolons now it wont compile
@paulfragemann3333
@paulfragemann3333 3 года назад
@@dihydrogen Was able to find them on my phone I'll edit the message to add them, now that I'm on a PC....
@ImaginaryMdA
@ImaginaryMdA 3 года назад
"one of the least productive conversations in online discourse." Wow, that's saying a lot.
@yuyuyashasrain
@yuyuyashasrain Год назад
This is my new favorite song
@NowWeJustWinIt
@NowWeJustWinIt Год назад
Idk why, but I thought this was a video about light speed, anyway I watched it through as I've recently come across this channel. And I want to thank you for delivering interesting educational, understandable content.
@widemen6651
@widemen6651 2 года назад
this showed up on my recommended and i actually fell asleep. not because it was boring, but because of your soothing af voice.
@LARAUJO_0
@LARAUJO_0 3 года назад
23:16 "Cnidarian" might just be the only time c is truly silent in English
@HBMmaster
@HBMmaster 3 года назад
I'd count indict and its derivatives too
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 2 года назад
I've never seen a title that is so opposite of the concept of clickbait. Also, as someone who speaks Uzbek, your offhand comment about q blew my mind. The hard, back-of-the-throat kh q makes in Uzbek would be almost impossible to replace since kh in and of itself indicates a different kh sound there. Q is underrated, I said what I said, fight me behind a Denny's if you disagree.
@dabbinggoose4317
@dabbinggoose4317 2 года назад
This is the best video in existence. Also I I’m “kindly” asking you to make the history of G.
@JungleOatsify
@JungleOatsify 3 года назад
There is plenty of discourse around the pronounciation of "g". Its just hidden in the even more unproductive debate ariund the pronounciation of GIF.
@eesr
@eesr 2 года назад
Hard g. Get the fuck over it 😂
@WaluigisBulge
@WaluigisBulge 2 года назад
@@eesr I prefer the worst option, as proposed by the creator of the format: GIF is pronounced as Yiff King Solomon has nothing on him
@mawillix2018
@mawillix2018 2 года назад
@@WaluigisBulge Yraphics Interchange Format
@kingcrimson4133
@kingcrimson4133 2 года назад
comments in here proving Adam's point
@everynametaken
@everynametaken 2 года назад
@@WaluigisBulge Like the Old English, I see.
@camelcaseco
@camelcaseco 3 года назад
That was very very well done! The music throughout was amazing, both Patricia Taxxon's instrumental and when accompanied with Jules' vocals. I think I forgot that the video was about c and not proto-sinaitic and ancient egyptian, but very good. Found it to be well-structured, as more of a story than a lecture.
@brianbutton6346
@brianbutton6346 10 месяцев назад
I bow to your knowledge. I will undoubtedly re-watch this to possibly learn another tiny sliver of the content of this video. But you know what I'm really impressed with? Your use of _"negative year 123"_ Such a sensible solution!! The posturing around BC v. BCE is all gone. I suspect that BC/BCE variations contains some cultural signals about . . . religion? Anyway, bravo!
@zenlyy
@zenlyy Год назад
I never thought I would spend half an hour watching a video only about the letter c.
@ganaraminukshuk0
@ganaraminukshuk0 2 года назад
"Why do we have the letter C?" Simple. On an 88-key piano, the first two white keys are reserved for floppy drives, so 61-key keyboards start on C instead. (This is a joke that makes sense if you understand music and Windows.)
@EmanueleX
@EmanueleX 2 года назад
Yes
@davthemillionth
@davthemillionth 2 года назад
Makes perfect sense to me
@qwoovy2359
@qwoovy2359 2 года назад
I wish i was nerdy enough to get this joke
@Kagomai15
@Kagomai15 2 года назад
I understand the music half at least 😂😅
@MisterHunterWolf
@MisterHunterWolf Год назад
This joke is so dumb, I love it!
@famitory
@famitory 2 года назад
english needs more letters, not less. bring back yogh and add a letter for χ to encourage its use in spelling loanwords purely because it's such a fun sound to make
@lucaslourenco8918
@lucaslourenco8918 2 года назад
Nah, English need more vowels. Make Æ great again!
@junoperberry
@junoperberry 2 года назад
how do you pronounce that long x thingy
@doriangrayapologist
@doriangrayapologist 2 года назад
I'm a proponent of accents!
@rachsnest3751
@rachsnest3751 2 года назад
@@junoperberry if it's the Greek one I think it's pronounced like "key"
@RofStyx4
@RofStyx4 2 года назад
Don't forget about thorn and eth that got replaced by th even though they have distinct sounds from each other.
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