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C64 Demos: (INSANE TOP C64 DEMO) Wonderland 12 von Censor Design 08/2013 

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Tribute to Censor Design. Diese Musik liebe ich über alles.
Ich bewunder den SID-Sound und die Person, die diese geile Musik gemacht hat. Hört Euch bitte diese krassen Samples auf den C64 an !!!
Der link dazu: c64.ch/product...
Der SID Sound: csdb.dk/releas...
Unbedingt diese C64-Kanäle anschauen:
8-Bit Flo : / @8bitflo
N3rdroom : / dernebelgeist
Paddys Retro Kanal : / bluesy2602
Patrickpatul : / @patrickpatul
Retroblah : / @retroblahde
Virtual Dimension : / virtualdimension
ComputerMusiker : / computermusiker
8-Bit Show And Tell : / @8_bit
Thomaniac : / thomaniac
EORetro : / eoretro
Andira2010 : / andira2010
StarwarsSammler : / starwarssammler
Ms Mad Lemon : / @msmadlemon
Captain TeeWurst : / @captainteewurst

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@joonglegamer9898
@joonglegamer9898 Год назад
There are two things here that completely blew my mind as an old Demoscene coder on the 64. 1) The scrolling with 5 shades of grey without any flickering. 2) The sampling quality. I got a headache just from my mind trying to come up with theories on how they did this.
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 11 месяцев назад
It is called assembly programming - just google it!
@tylisirn
@tylisirn Год назад
Ok, those digitized samples made my jaw drop... Amazing what the SID could be made to do. Even as a synth it still sounds fantastic even today, so much character to it.
@BrendanRobert
@BrendanRobert Год назад
Then you need to check out Wonderland 13. Good luck picking your jaw off the floor. You were warned. ;)
@falconeagle3655
@falconeagle3655 Год назад
This is modern thing 2013
@monarch73
@monarch73 Год назад
The Digi-Capabilities of the SID weren't actualy all that outstanding. Even back then, Audio-DACs weren't all that expensive. What makes this demo so great is the fact that they managed to get real crystal clear audio eventhough the VIC2-Chip stops and blocks the CPU and databus many times a second to render the bitmap/characters on the screen - which negativly effects the playback quality of the digi-sounds. Thats why many digi-players usualy turn off screen rendering during playback.....
@dieSpinnt
@dieSpinnt Год назад
​@@monarch73 Availability ... Compare how much people for example had a Philips TDA1540 or an E-mu Emulator II or access to technology/instruments suitable for the stage (me:P) in 1984-1988 [1], versus millions of kids who got in contact with the concept of audio synthesis BECAUSE of the home-computer revolution of that time. You are joking, aren't you?! Because otherwise you're sitting on a pretty high horse. Your view is in no way consistent with historical reality. It seems to me rather glorified and defiant, maybe even boastful? Anyway, I think the same with the rest of your comment, great handiwork on display here. But your first two sentences are untenable and demonstrably stupid! Sorry, but they are:) [1] Hey, and who would've guessed it, those people ACTIVELY bought it or had a reason to do so and KNEW about such devices.
@monarch73
@monarch73 Год назад
@@dieSpinnt Ich überlege jetzt schon seit Tagen, an welcher Stelle ich in den zwei Sätzen "boastful" gewesen sein soll. Ein DAC besteht in der Regel aus einem Bündel Spannungsteiler (eine Hand voll Widerstände) und einem Impedanzwandler (simpler Op-Amp). Webseiten, die sich mit dem Aufbau eines DACs beschäftigen, gibt es zu genüge! Das ist keine teure Hardware. Auch damals nicht! Was wirklich teuer war, war die Peripherie, die nötig war, um eine saubere Widergabe zu gewährleisten. Das Problem aus jener Zeit saubere, klare Samples widerzugeben besteht einzig und allein aus der begrenzen Speicherkapazität der Systeme und dem Timing. Sampledaten müssen gleichmässig zum DAC übermittelt werden, um sauber zu klingen. RAM war teuer und CPUs mussten ein sehr genaues Timing einhalten, konnten also sonst nichts anderes machen.
@alexanderwingeskog758
@alexanderwingeskog758 Год назад
That is just sick! I was amazed when I bought my C64 (pretty late... in 85-86) of the demos then... but this blows your mind! just awesome stuff! and done 2013! that is amazing. I wonder what would happened if a demo of this kind was released 1982... Commodore would have ruled the world as we know it...
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Yeah - its more than amazing :) thx for your command.
@VuULF
@VuULF Год назад
They did rule the world for a minute.
@deg6788
@deg6788 Год назад
Had mine around 1991 ......
@CardiacCat
@CardiacCat Год назад
They had something even better than this, the Amiga. Unfortunately they just didn't know how to rule the world even with the keys in their hands.
@soylentgreenb
@soylentgreenb Год назад
@@CardiacCat The open standard won. IBM accidentally created a monster they could not control. Their boring business machines with PC-speakers and awful monochrome and CGA colors slowly morphed into gaming machines from the sheer pressure of third party hardware developers adding VGA, sound cards, better CPUs, CDROMs, flight sticks, joysticks and all manner of widgets, most of which were kind of trash. When they released the PS/2 to try and lock things down again into a proprietary standard they could control it was already too late. IBM PCs was a joke until about 1990; by 1992 they had caught up and surpassed Amiga in *software* without hardware acceleration or a BLIT and 3D games really didn't benefit much from a BLIT anyway. 1992 had Ultima underworld; a game so bizarrely ahead of its time that it was like time traveling aliens made a game for the 386DX. And Wolfenstein 3D of course. Next year came Doom. Commodore had two major problems. They iterated so slowly and stayed on the same basic hardware so long that when they finally released anything substantively better most people just went "meh" and kept buying games for, developing games for and using the Amiga 500. They could not benefit from the "throw shit at a wall and see what sticks" approach of having thousands of hardware companies making all manner of weird hardware to chart the way; just seeing what works and gets adopted.
@larswadefalk6423
@larswadefalk6423 Год назад
I think this just easily surpasses everything we've seen before. It's just unbelievable. Beyond all comprehension of perfect coding. I am in total awe.
@jasondodt4328
@jasondodt4328 Год назад
Majority of the demos on the C64 are just insane for a 8 bit computer
@garethdodds
@garethdodds Год назад
The most insane demo I've ever seen! Wow
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Yes its INSANE !
@LuckyButtonPusher
@LuckyButtonPusher Год назад
Absolute incredible amazing. I never thought that this is possible. Just great!
@nicholasgalliano8541
@nicholasgalliano8541 Год назад
Absolutely brilliant!!! I just drift away in an 8 bit wonderland..
@frankmeyer9984
@frankmeyer9984 Год назад
One of the BEST Demos EVER... JMHO
@macsmith2013
@macsmith2013 Год назад
Schön zu sehen, was die Freaks aus dem guten alten Brotkasten noch so rauskitzeln konnten.
@ozgur937
@ozgur937 Год назад
This tune never gets old.
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Thats true :)
@goranjosic
@goranjosic Год назад
Imagine showing something like this in the window of a shop where the Commodore 64 was sold in 1984 - it would sell five times better!
@BillAnt
@BillAnt Год назад
This is some kind of black magic sorcery. lol
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 11 месяцев назад
Yes - but it would be a lie. Just as when you go home with a chinese woman from a bar and discovers it was all make-up. I.e. fakery all the way.
@speedsterh
@speedsterh Год назад
Epic Masterclass !
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
YES !!!
@ThePierrezx
@ThePierrezx Год назад
Smells like genius spirit...
@999Infiltrator666
@999Infiltrator666 Год назад
Unglaublich, das daß auf einem C64 läuft !
@GLangendoenTUBE
@GLangendoenTUBE Год назад
Wow this is incredible! It looks like an Amiga demo.
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 11 месяцев назад
I''ve heard rumors they took the inside of an amiga and glued it into a C64 to make you believe it was a C64?
@dr.ignacioglez.9677
@dr.ignacioglez.9677 2 месяца назад
I REALY LOVE MY C64 ❤❤❤ FOREVER ❤❤❤
@robwebnoid5763
@robwebnoid5763 Год назад
Imagine if these demo's happened in 1983 or 1984. Just the FLI images alone would have shocked us back then, making it superior to CGA & also just before the days of Amiga. And then you put the quality music on top of that.
@IncredibleTractors
@IncredibleTractors Год назад
Fantastic so cool
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Thx :)
@nrdesign1991
@nrdesign1991 Год назад
Those digis have a super sharp high frequency buzz with them, around 16 kHz
@neonvoid
@neonvoid Год назад
fantastic
@jackdaddypfc
@jackdaddypfc 2 месяца назад
People these days don't realise how unbelievably good these are. 64k of bloody ram 🤣
@stefanogrillo6040
@stefanogrillo6040 Год назад
Fantasticus. And wen the source code will be available ? (given its now 10 years old)
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Never ever :)
@stefanogrillo6040
@stefanogrillo6040 Год назад
@@retrobulle718 lolz
@mackdavid4568
@mackdavid4568 Год назад
SID Sound❤
@BikeNutt1970
@BikeNutt1970 Месяц назад
Still one of the very best c64 demos. Even today. 🫡
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Год назад
When converting C64 output to modern 16:9 video formats, try making the VIC chip pixels fill more of the screen, then use the border color value for to pad it to a full modern size, as if added to a new version of the chip. In this video you included the original padding to fill 12:9 TVs, then you added that texture on both sides.
@MaxQ10001
@MaxQ10001 Год назад
Terrible idea 😮
@Chrispy1976
@Chrispy1976 Год назад
Still Jealous of anyone who had a 64.. I had a Vic 20, took a week to program and record 'Blitz' to cassette. Happy Days! 🖖😎👍
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
I first had a VIC 20, then after three months I bought the C64 :)
@NihilQuest
@NihilQuest Год назад
Amazing. Is this running on pure C-64 with a disk drive or is there some kind of expansion?
@alcoholrelated4529
@alcoholrelated4529 Год назад
it runs from a datasette, and just plays the tune from tape
@obvioustruth
@obvioustruth Год назад
Excellent demo. Most C64 demos are boring with a lot of text to read, but this is one is cool!👍 How much RAM does it require for this Kraftwerk Boing Music Non Stop sample?
@MD_il_microcanale
@MD_il_microcanale Год назад
new subscribe! I also talk about these magnificent Commodore computers!
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa Год назад
cartridge memory could do full video output on c64
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
I have no memary card, sorry :)
@magnusjahn5342
@magnusjahn5342 Год назад
aber das soll auf originaler C64er Hardware laufen, oder?
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Mit Vice lief das einwandfrei. Auf orig. C64 Hardware mit Standart-SID wohl eher nicht.
@thomassauer27.75
@thomassauer27.75 Год назад
JA LÄUFT AUF ORGINAL
@ProblemHelfer
@ProblemHelfer Год назад
sieht für mich eher aus, als ob das für die S-CPU gedacht war. Aber trotzdem goil!
@thomassauer27.75
@thomassauer27.75 Год назад
Läuft auf original hardware
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
@@thomassauer27.75 jepp :)
@mazspork969
@mazspork969 Год назад
git source?
@piotrbrach6493
@piotrbrach6493 Год назад
VIC-2 poradzi sobie z taką grafiką, ale do tego trzeba coś lepszego niż MOS-6510 1MHz. Np. MOS-65816.
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Please write yote Commabnd in German or English. I don't understand your language !
@klaushermann2180
@klaushermann2180 Год назад
Ever heard about „Fast Load“? 😢
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Yes I heard about. But back then we had long loading times. That's exactly the feeling I want to convey. Feel free to skip the videos if it bothers you :)
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Mal im ernst ? Was gibt es besseres als diese Demo? Einfach nur geil oder ? Ich bin hin und weg ! "Censor Design" ihr habt meinen vollen Respekt und ich werde alle Demos auf auf meinen Kanal zeigen. An alle C64-Freunde einen lieben Gruss an Euch. Euer Retrobulle.
@sikeyimboyleisi
@sikeyimboyleisi Год назад
Makes the C64 sing!
@Stadtpark90
@Stadtpark90 Год назад
8:06 the following sounds made me think of “Paradroid”: I loved that game.
@theobald_tiger
@theobald_tiger Год назад
The SID-track rocks. Espescially 9:24 to 9:50. Is this part based on anything? Does anybody know?
@xoen6
@xoen6 Год назад
kraftwerk?
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq Год назад
Yes. Kraftwerk - boing boom tschaak / musique non stop
@Martin-cc5xn
@Martin-cc5xn 7 месяцев назад
If this runs on original c64 hardware then it is Pure genius work. The graphics, music, composition of ideas to maximise the wow factor, and above all the coding is mind blowing. when I was 14-15 years old i coded a few demos in the late 80s (I’m early 50s now!) for the c64 using the monitor app on my expert cartridge (didn’t have a true assembler app and was self taught by dissembling other demos to learn techniques) bouncing raster bars running from pre called sin data, deleted borders, text scrollers and sprite multiplexing was best I ever achieved. But I felt I had a good grasp of the hardware, limits and areas you could exploit the cpu and vic. I guess that gives me an understanding of impressive this demo is. Granted they had modern tools for dev, graphics and audio to help, but make no mistake this is insanely brilliant, there is stuff here I truly can’t figure out how they did it, I’d love for the team that produced this to do a masterclass and break it down. I salute you all!❤
@raoulwillysplacefornostalgie
Der Sound knallt aber richtig gut xD
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Ich sage nur SID-Power :)
@Cradle6662009
@Cradle6662009 Год назад
Wonderland XIII ist ebenso geil 🤩
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Au ja, die Demo habe ich auf meinem Kanal :) Die ist mal Hammer gut!
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 11 месяцев назад
Thank you Norway!
@cmdrreggit
@cmdrreggit Год назад
Very nice! 👍
@xoen6
@xoen6 Год назад
Wait, this is unreal.... What the....0o upd: wtf???? This is demo from 2013??? upd no2: WTF???
@dbridger620
@dbridger620 Год назад
I am so blown away by the excellent quality and speed of these demos. The software pushes the VIC and SID chips way past what the designers ever imagined. I'm left wondering if these demos would run as well on my 40 year old humble original C64.
@MD_il_microcanale
@MD_il_microcanale Год назад
fantastic!
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
What else :) C64 rules
@arnetrautmann9783
@arnetrautmann9783 Год назад
Unfassbar. Splendid.
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Genau. Unfassbar gut :)
@aldob5681
@aldob5681 Год назад
Is it real?
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
It is :)
@BerlinplaysGames
@BerlinplaysGames Год назад
Meine Jugend, da werden Erinnerungen wach
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Au ja, wem sagst du das. Immer wenn ich am C64 sitze kommen Erinnerungen hoch. Und die geniesse ich einfach ausgiebig :)
@BerlinplaysGames
@BerlinplaysGames Год назад
@@retrobulle718 Damals gab es noch Trinity of Agile, die haben auch coole Demos gemacht.
@retrobulle718
@retrobulle718 Год назад
Danke für den Hinweis. die schaue ich mir doch glatt mal an :)
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