did the better guy say "got em" when the Shelby clearly let off the gas or was he packing a 150 shot of nitrous lol other than that the race was close and it seemed to be about who stomped the gas quicker. Pretty good for a seemingly stock Shelby and barely upgrade vette.
No matter how you cut it, the ZR1 still couldn't make easy work of the shelby. One screw up and the shelby would be ghost. So he may pull at higher speeds... but was not an easy win. Not only that its lighter than the shelby. But shelby is more collectable.
nope the c7 zr1 has a better power to weight ratio and will pull on the gt500 up until top speed since it has way more downforce and drag it wouldn't be able to keep up.
Actually bone stock versus bone stock in a quarter mile from a dig the ZR1 is more than a half a second faster. According to motor trend, car and driver and several other websites that had one in for review.
Bro. That ZR1 is pulling in 1000 LBS of down force while that GT500 is getting around 350 lbs. no shit it’s pulling at high speeds. If the ZR1 was low wing it would be a fair matchup. Even a pulley wouldn’t make up for 1000 lbs.
It was only a matter of time really. To me it seemed like Chevy tripped when they went from the Z06 to the ZR1. I hated they could never plant that power correctly with that SC.
The Vette has so much downforce its pulling with that big wing, it’s not even funny. If he had low wing than he would pull at high speeds easily. Vette has more arrow
He literally wasnt pulling at all. The stang let off to allow it to gain then pass. If he was gaining any you would see it in the first race. The 2nd race you see the vette ahead and then the gt500 pull on it again and let off.
Drivers race? Youre joking right? They jush mash the gas pedal.... and point the car..... it does everything else. Waste of gas and wear and tear on two cars capable of doing so much more.
For people saying ZR1 still has advantage despite carrying passenger and weighing 3600 compared to 4200, you're conveniently leaving out details that hurt your argument. ZR1 has more disadvantages like auto transmission, big wing, big splitter, and GT500 is way too underrated power wise. It has much more than 760 hp. It dynos over 700 whp, meaning it has 820-830 crank hp, not 760. When you sum it up, the results are not surprising. ZR1 advantage: lighter weight. GT500 advantage: DCT, no passenger, true crank hp is 60 more than advertised, and less downforce. If y'all want to argue advantages, be objective and list everything for both sides, not just list what makes you look good and leave out what hurts your point. Seems like biased car fans always leave out details.
The dynos where it made 700whp isn't corrected. One video I recall the guy did correct at over 680hp. He stated what Ford is claiming is true. Both cars have same SC. Ford claims SC takes 90hp from engine.GM states 110hp is needed to drive SC. ZR1 has mods here but is not tuned. If it was all would be very different. The 8spd and torque converter does rob power from but it does shift fast when at full throttle. You have to be in the right mode to use the paddles. The wing does hurt ZR1 above 140 mph. Stang mode has a low wing ZR1 run on his channel. The torque output is always over looked. Redeye actually makes similar power to GT500 on dyno and can beat it on the roll. It's heavier but has more torque. Throttle house has a run on their channel. I was reading Car and Driver where they tested GT500, ZL1 and Redeye. In the article it is mentioned RE was almost unbeatable in racing. ZR1 is lighter and similar torque to Redeye. High wing or low wing it pulls away when both driver hit at similar times. There is a stock ZR1 7spd run vs GT500. GM has torque management on that model in 1st 3grs. If I'm not mistaken it had a high wing.
@@ShinyBlackRims I wasn't trying to discredit your points. More info was needed here. There is something else not stated much. GT500 has a 3:73 rear end vs 2:85 in ZR1. Redeye believe is 3:09. GT500 needs that shorter rear end due to lack of torque to be competitive. I brought up torque again it's not mention here. GT500 has seen from 530 to over 560. ZR1 has been all over the place but most have it over 600lb-ft. Highest I saw was 670. ZR1 has seen 687hp on dyno in the right conditions. Manual 7spd around 683hp. GT500 gives too much ground under 100mph when both driver hit at similar times. There is stock vs stock on this channel. He even says it at the beginning when he forgets about the black high wing ZR1 .Most of the races on here ZR1 has a passenger and GT500 doesn't. ZR1 still does well. The trying to make even is fanboy talk.
Great races, considering the GT500 was stock, he did well, if he was tuned with a pulley he would pull away from the ZR1. I’m not knocking the ZR1, it’s an amazing car, it has better aero & weighs less. That dual clutch makes a huge difference.
Dual clutch negates a bit of the gt500 weight its an advantage over a regular auto. The stage 3 aero is hurting the vette up top,take that spoiler off and re run.
Out of all your race videos Frank. This one takes the cake for me. 2 kings going head to head. I do wish we could've at least seen how bad the 40 roll would've been though.
Every car is different based on the driver, not saying that stangmode doesn’t know how to race, I’m just saying this gt500 is probably a factory freak.
The GT500 was bone stock unlike the ZR1 which had race gas and a lower pulley, therefore the GT500 would have beaten the ZR1 if it were also stock. The ZR1 had a weight and power advantage give it up for the GT500 it was doing work being bone stock.
On this channel there is stock vs stock. Most here are clearly late to the party. ZR1 has mods but is not tuned. Check out Stang mode channel also. He raced a ZR1.
The GT500 was bone stock unlike the ZR1 which had race gas and a upper pulley, therefore the GT500 would have beaten the ZR1 if it were also stock. The ZR1 had a weight and power advantage give it up for the GT500 it was doing work being bone stock.
I haven't even seen the video and for the life of me why do they keep racing the high wing version it will always loose in a drag race and the ding bat always has a passenger duh more weight. Love the cars but question the intelligence.
And it’s not just just the wing it’s the splitter up in front as well. Both are amazing cars but people need to learn that they are not a fair match up in this context.
Damn Gt500 stock running neck and neck with a pulley ZR1 thats cat delete with race gas which obviously means he has a tune... Hats off ford nice job nobody can argue that
Lol. The ZR1 was designed to compete with the Ford GT. The Gt500 costs much less than the ZR1 and it’s running the same as a modified one. In my opinion this Mustang is superior for less.
🤦♂️ofc it should be able to beat it or else it’d be a shitty car. They cost so much more and weigh so much less and they compete with the ford gt and the ford gt always wins. Pretty sad that you guys have to put a zr1 up against a mustang in order to barely beat it 😂
If not for the Passenger and the down force of the Vetts wing it would’ve slowly walked on the 500 but just the fact that the 500 was hanging with the Alpha Vette was impressive.
The gt500 also has a wing, not as much downforce but still. And that ZR1 is probably making 100whp more than stock and it’s also 400lbs lighter than the gt500 so there’s no excuses here.
But actually the reverse is happening.. GT500 actually has the better top end but owing to Corvette being insanely slippery through air it gains lot of ground with speed while GT500 fails to pierce air as efficiently as it should be.
GT500 top speed is limited to 180mph due to aero drag. However, it's very capable of doing over 200mph like the C7 ZR1. Zr1 hit 214mph in a video and that's impressive.
The mustang is pretty impressive but the drivers a cheater he keeps takin off on the count of 1. Pretty close race though but I’m still in love with the zr1 ❤️
People fail to realize, the ZR1 like the Viper ACR, is a true track car, the large wing and other aero bits, produce a 1000 pounds of down force, if he would have the smaller winged that optional it wouldn't have been close.
@@kme5925 There is a huge difference, and the people doing these videos, either know or don't. The ZTK package on the ZR1isn't suited for drag, racing it's a track focus car, that broke several track records, even beating the Ford GT record at VIR. That's why Chevy offers a low wing package for the Corvette, that would've perform way better in this video. The weight of the ZR1is 3,560lbs vs 4,225lbs for the GT500. I did a little calculating, and the ZR1 with the ZTK package generates 950 lbs of downforce, so the car is pulling 4,510lbs. The GT500 with the carbon fiber track package generates 500lbs of downforce, pulling 4,725lbs, with the small wing coming in at 379, pulling 4,604lbs which make it pretty even with the big wing Corvette. And only 215lbs difference vs the carbon fiber track package, so the Mustang can keep up with a ZR1 with the ZTK set up, I don't know how much downforce the low wing ZR1 generates, but it has a significant performance gap. 194 mph top end, for the big wing vette vs 210 mph for the low wing, the GT500 tops out at 180.
Watching this makes me proud to be an American! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Two badass cars and great video guys!....man, that GT500 never disappoints... for anything to give the mighty ZR1 a challenge like that means something for sure!....curious to see runs with these cars while both stock and both with two people....🤔
C7 zr1 ftw… had a passenger as well and less HP… either way great runs.. all depends on the hit and also driver shifting and correct rpms… magnuson 2650 would take care of the problem… love the gt500 as well kudos for 4 seater mustang nearly even each race regardless
Base model does weigh 4,187lbs and the track package carbon fiber weighs 4,056lbs. DCT compensates tho. The C7 zr1 automatic transmission isn't all that great.
The Zr1 weighs around 3500 to 3600lbs....the GT500 weighs around 4200lbs...so even if the ZR1 had two 200lb occupants, the Z would still have the weight advantage! And remember the Z had a lower pulley (more boost) So no matter how you look at it, the GT500 is super impressive! Had the GT500 had an upper pulley, the Zr1 wouldn't have even been in the same zip code as the 500!
Both cars have almost the same horse power, but shelby being 500lb heavier. So how the heck it could keep up with the ZR1? Something wrong with that ZR1 because I have seen a C7 Z06 keeping up with a GT500. So what is the catch?
I dont know whats up with the drivers and/or cars in this video. As someone who has personally driven and been passenger in both cars, i can with absolute confidence promise you the zr1 bone stock will always absolutely run circles around a Shelby 500. As far as acceleration, there is a drastically noticeable difference in favor of the zr1. The Shelby is no damn joke either. I personally rode in a similar Shelby as it raced a zr1 with a passenger and while we were able to hang with him enough to feel good and gain their respect, the difference in acceleration was obvious and it kind of walked away from the shelby. Neither were professional drivers per say but the driver of the mustang has a lot more experience driving and has been driving that car for around a year while the zr1 was being driven by its driver for around 3 weeks.
Extra 200-230 lb passenger in vette ,no passenger in stang..and y does everyone forget,remove the wing for high speed runs,stang not only looses then it gets walked
Alot of people here still don't understand racing. The first is the wing on the Corvette, second 40, 50 mph drag people don't do it properly and third 2 people in a vette 1 in a mustang. Just go to the dragstrip and start at 0 mph then u see the fastest lol
