Not to mention wordplay being super high level, storytelling is incredible but one of the best traits Cage has is his ability to flow intricately, the way he finds places to put in word is one of the best ever!
Remember hearing this for first time on circle research show at 2am back in high school. Remains a damn classic. I'll never tire of this beat. Wish more hip hop sounded like this.
Wouldn’t of mattered he got off drugs and got weird lol. But yeah if necro produced the whole movies for the blind, probably would be one of the greatest hip hop albums.
@@brynekingg8745 I am a huge cage fan, but as a hip hop head, your crazy. This album comes nowhere near greatest of all time territory lol. This era alone you got Only built for Cuban linx, you got ems slim shady ep, you got aquemini, so many wu tang joints… MF doom, early triple six mafia stuff, so many good albums from 90s early 2k. This is good but nowhere near goat
true, I always found it suspicious how he drops infinite and that whole sound a year before this, travels to ny and comes back with the slim shady ep that sounds exactly like cage. Shit doesnt add up. Em is a true hip hop head too so he would be all into esham and icp anyway taking notes, all these guys been local in detroit for 10+ years even by that point
eh........totally differnt styles.....he did however steal the White Ticket.....not the style tho. at all. cage is an authentic metal patient, eminem is an authentic.....well, autistic. lol. but em still was authentic. had they worked together, they would have revolutionized hiphop way earlier than it was. ......but Em definitely didnt bite cage, he just had him blackballed by the DR.
goin off what i know necro has a plethora of beats stored away (unreleased) so cage could just drop verses in his Sam Hill style then Necro could just mix it to todays standards. But i only see this happening if $$$ is involved otherwise no never
his best beats are pretty much straight sampled from old songs and movies. theres alot i like but they are very basic. hes never tried anything different with his drums which he doesnt need to the basic drums suits his style and era. but they are very basic. everything with strings is usually stolen from something and looped. but he also came up from a era of sampling. but still most his best songs really arent original from scratch. he also hates cage now. they both pretty much hate each other and will most likely never work together or even speak.
I Stan for no man but I honestly think Cage just sounds like Cage..With em, it's a strong Nas influence you are hearing on Infinite, & Masta Ace on later works, em would proudly admit to that. I don't know if it's so much that Cage sounds like Red, the way that you can hear Em's influences so clearly. Also what went over my head back in the day with the Em hype, is that Cage's slurred words give his rhyme a grimy out of his mind authenticity. Eminem's clarity and clear words dazzle, and it's so slick that it ends up making Cage sound more out of his mind. All in all I don't like to compare them, but I guess every MJ has a Prince, & to every Biggie a 2pac, & maybe that's the mark of genius, when we can only compare an artist to only one other, shrug idk I'm high carry on. Not to say it isn't a Redman influence but he really does just sound like himself added with the east coast underground vibe.
if you listen to eminem's "low down and dirty" it sounds like he bit this song! style, beat and everything. although both of them emulated redman's style
I thought the same, but while the beat sounds the same, these are the differences I spot with Eminem - the nasaly flow, the faster rap style and the denser rhyme structure that kind of shifts with the beat. Overall, their cadence just ain't the same. But I think they were both doing takes on redman.
There's also elements of this beat in Eminems song "hi my name is" ... I feel like most of what became Eminems slim shady era was heavily influenced by cage. I've heard they had beef I wish specifics were better known such as if they were originally running in the same circles or did shows at the same venues that would've allowed Eminem to get familiar with cages style or what
I mean yeah i guess now that you say it, just dipping into the cage waters, late to his party, though have had every redman album since he appeared on epmd, but don't think it's overwhelming, and probably wouldn't have thought it if you hadn't said something
@@BigSmiley0TV I've heard of Cage from Em dissing him on the SSLP but never really dipped into his music. Redman is the first thing that came to my mind, very similar flow, delivery and bar structure. I see where the "Em bit Cage" narrative comes from but if that's the case than Cage bit Redman.
@@semird615 right on, or perhaps they both bit redman, and do believe em has said that red is one of his favorite rappers, so they both might've just grabbed some influence from the same source, but hey what can you do, nobody is an island. Even odb hollering that there's no father to his style, was influenced by those that came before. The art of it all is just if someone can take those influences and make it their own, and try to bring something new and different with it, so they don't come off as a cheap rip off. As much as originality is prized, hip hop is, in some ways more honest in bitting, in that it completely embraces sampling, jacking for beats, copied parts of songs or media, found sounds, and collaging it together to make something new out of the world. It's modern art blasting out of a boom box, and redman is a master of the medium, so would never be surprised to hear him as an influence, even by those that don't know they are influenced indirectly, or subconsciously by his technique or style
I'm such a fan of hip-hop that I can't believe that this only got 121,143 views, even tho that's a-lot of views...But I think this is seen by many as underground...
you can also say eminem sounded like craig mack though. the style is actually really simple, rhyme as many words as you can before finishing one bar. also using alot of analogies sometimes to tell a random number of events and not a well thought out story because its hard toplan out a story when your trying to just make words fit with each other thats why eminems newer shit is alot whacker hes trying to write actual songs and they are pretty shitty lol. what further more makes eminem sound like cage though is how they pronounce the words similar. each word seems almost gusted out with expression and punctuation on each words. not to the level of someone like dmx where his is really deep thrown out punctuation but u get what im saying
This song is dope asf and Necro & Cage should've done more together. But Cage burned yet another bridge. Also regardin' the whole Em vs Cage beef... To be honest Cage should've listened to Necro and not diss Em. Necro told him that dissin' Em was not gonna be good because Em was just waaaay more relevant. They unironically should've collabed, would've given Cage more exposure. Necro had the right idea when he was hangin' out with Em, it was a shame that Em took his comment that 'White rappers should stick for eachother more' the wrong way. What Necro said imo is true, white rappers back in the day dissed eachother just because they were white and wanted to be viewed as the 'Good one' or 'The Real One'. It was some weird beggin' for acceptance type shit. But I'm going off track... What I'm sayin' is thta a supergroup containin' Em, Cage, Necro and maybe add Royce and some of the D12 guys would've shook Hip-Hop.
Interesting, the title of the track is "radiohead". Wonder if there's any connection to Radiohead's masterpiece "Ok Computer" which was released in 1997.
@Drizzlerman I sincerely disagree, this track is one of my favorite hip-hop tracks period. That beat, the fierceness of his flow... shit's fresh. To each their own, though.
@Macdogg91 You can download the .mp3/the whole entire vinyl single via file-sharing programs or torrents for free haha. But since you wanna buy the .mp3 I'm sure Itunes or Amazon.com should have it available for purchase. And as far as buying this vinyl goes, keep in mind this isnt so rare, so you will definitely have luck in finding it online. Googling it is your best bet!
track still gets rotation especially when im driving, bump this shit loud like i was a teen again. People give me looks theyre bumping some drill shit while im just chilling listening to alex the worm king
Damn I remember having this vinyl, bought it because of agent orange, but this side and was like whoa, its fucked that his beef with Em kind of sidelined him
@@beri4138 Agent orange dates well b4 🎬4T🙈. Movies though, IMO was his last run with greatness . That albums production was where it needed to be, not to mention cage laced the hell outta that album. I think 🎬4T🙈 stayed in my 💿 player for years. That album was solid all the way around from one till done though.
oh i know but when a song is uploaded to youtube the sounds quality of a .mp3 is slightly damaged and sounds nowhere near the original .mp3. So when you use one of those youtube to mp3 tools or sites the sound quality decreases even more...Your best bet is downloading the file or file(s) from a p2p program, torrent, a file hosting site (such as rapidshare,4share,mediafile,depositfiles,etc) or simply purchasing it from amazon, itunes, etc.
Eminem has been accused many times in his early career for copying Cage and his Horrorcore style. Because Cage has been using this type of style since 91.
Yeah he’s all emo now lol. Supposedly he was so wacked on drugs during these times that he don’t even remember much of rap days. Pcps a helluva drug lol
why don't you try apathy, tame 1 , or the is a thing called uk hip hop , task force , jehst, kalishnicnoff ect learn from things , stop the hate, keep the peace
wow, this is amazing, same beat from atmosphere - how i won the war, from sad clown 1, just slowed down a little, shit i guess necro had ant by a few years hmm wonder who else used it..
+te mon mcpatterson ?? Definitely not. I honestly don't hear the similarities either. If anything Eminem bite Cage's whole crazy white guy schtick. Many will agree and disagree with that but Cage biting Red is not up for debate.
+fpep5 we don't have to say Eminem "bit" but he's definitely got Cage&Necro to look up to on that crazy white boy schtick!! Eminem was the MTV version ;-D
The way he emphasizes certain words when he spits,there's definitely a resemblance to Red's flow.Thought the same thing when I first turned on the video,but with that said.I don't necessarily think it's a blatant attempt to sound like him.He does a good job of adding his own flavor to it.Both rappers are dope as hell !
You know what I noticed, mostly the people who go hard as fuck, for example, $uicideBoy$ GHOSTEMANE, only flow on average 2minutes. SAM GOES AN AND ON AND ON BAYBY
It's because he's an actual emcee/rapper doing music since the late 80s / early 90s - back when you needed to master your craft at rapping because the game was highly competitive.
it was only on a 12" single (his first single). I have an orange label one from 1998, the white label is 1st press 1997 pretty rare actually. The orange one a bit too. never on an album. on a mix cd and TAPE "for your box" that came out before Movies for the blind to get some stuff out I guess. The Cassette version is better than the CD version. came with a funny upskirt shot T-shirt lol.