@@abw1317 Let's be real, the players, past and present, are basically the representation of the league. It's always the players that talk to the media, not the owners, GMs, and coaches, whom most people can't even name.
Facts 💯. And by her coming in Everyone makes money including those veterans. Stupid, Delusional, and Trifling Non Sense. Make that make sense. 18 million viewers and hate .😡??
Let her go overseas or let you and other buy the wnba from the nba so they can used that 10 million a yr to 16 yr boys who is alot better than her and the wnba
We need to get rid of some of the old toxic player out of the the WNBA and replace them with the new generation of talent that’s gonna take the game to the next level
If I’m the WNBA owner, I meet these people and said we need to change the game with Kaitlyn Clark and our new generation of talent coming in and ride that wave all the way to the bank 💯💥💥💥💥
Wnba doesn't have the revenue to pay more. You need the revenue and money to pay more......and go right ahead, play overseas, but you best avoid Russia. We aren't doing that ish again.
The wnba should be thanking God for this upcoming draft class because they will bring people to the game and will make them money. They didnt get it done they need to make room for this class that will
You think the top 5 players aren’t more entertaining? Sure logically you will say the top 5 is more entertaining… that being said CC Was the BEST in WCBB she won’t Be Top 5 In WNBA THEREFORE the world is not interested even more when the world see CC is not top 5 wnba player
Jealousy is just one thing that is hurting the WNBA . The other is some players advocating for men to play in girls and womens sports and someday trans will infiltrate the WNBA too . When that happens the wnba is done .
The difference with CC is this: I'm italian, living in Italy and I've heard of her. I'm not even into basketball. I watch football (soccer) sometimes volleyball and the olympic games
We must cease the incessant comparisons with the NBA as they are unproductive. Instead, let's address the crux of the matter: the league itself. Consider this: the WNBA Finals garnered 700K viewers, while the NCAA finals between Iowa and South Carolina peaked at a staggering 24 MILLION, with an average of 18 MILLION viewers. This glaring contrast begs the question: what is the real issue at hand? It's evident that the WNBA desperately needs a makeover in its image and brand perception. Too often, players resort to brash remarks in interviews, criticizing league salaries offering constructive solutions. There's a pressing need for expansion, a more robust marketing strategy focusing on the league's stars, and comprehensive PR training for players. The priority should be laser-focused on basketball, ensuring the product's quality and appeal. Taking a stance on societal issues is important, but the WNBA currently lacks the necessary leverage to effect meaningful change. Unlike the NBA, which spent decades fortifying its image before diving into social advocacy, the WNBA is in a nascent stage. This is a pivotal moment for women's basketball, with unprecedented opportunities for growth. Failure to capitalize on this moment could set the league back significantly, relegating it to a cycle of seeking attention rather than highlighting the quality of its product.
The only people who like to listen to people whine like liberals are liberals. One of the problems of the WNBA IS political whining : stick to commenting on the sport. Cognitive reflex is to turn the channel away from someone you're used to hearing whine.
@@calibearplayer3398They don’t understand that the way that happens (getting more money) is by the league becoming more profitable (or profitable at all). And the way it can possibly become more profitable is if they push girls like Caitlin, JuJu, Angel, etc. and creating something that fans will want to watch. To put it simply, they need the same people that watched the women’s ncaa tournament to watch the wnba. But these girls that are already in the wnba are letting their jealousy cloud their judgement. But it wouldn’t be the first time they brushed off something that could’ve helped their league. Remember when multiple nba players suggested they lower the hoop so that they could start dunking, and the wnba players shot it down? Same type of thing here. They’re their own worst enemy.
If anyone is wondering, one reason the 1970s of the NBA aren’t talked about is because of drug use/addiction in the league at the time. David Stern really cleaned up the league and made it marketable to the world.
@@xylynthian753 I know nothing about the WNBA other than the shade they have cast on mostly CC and I guess the criticism that many cast on that league. After watching a pretty compelling MM for the ladies, I hope the W can catch a beneficial tailwind and improve the WNBA game.
@@xylynthian753Cathy Engelbert was never the commissioner for 30 years and she just recently got it. Now that Caitlin is in the league, she is trying everything to make her marketable and to make the WNBA more relevant.
I used to work in a progressive bar in West Hollywood CA. The WNBA players would come in and give out free tickets to the WNBA games. Even the progressive (ie: gay) women didn't want the free tickets. Next time you pay $400 to sit in the nosebleeds at an NBA game, just remember part of that ticket price goes to pay the salaries of the WNBA players. What a joke ...
Your political outlook has (or should have, in a healthy person) no bearing on whether someone enjoys sports, let alone to the point of dragging their ass through traffic to sit in an environment they don't enjoy anyway. So I'm not sure what your point is, beyond a cheap attempt to throw shade.
Idk about you but most gay people aren't politically left or right. It's just that the main parties decided that being gay meant left wing. Why should gay people feel obliged to go? For political reasons? That's weird.
@freshcutgrass isn't it a $5 mil offer. That would be a bad move. The WNBA move will drive her stock even higher. Her endorsements will surpass that offer.
@Redridge07 I believe another rapper added an additional 5mil to Cubes 5mil. Yeah I guess she's banking anyway she goes. I hope she becomes an Olympian too.
screen cap this in 15 years, she will have captured 3 WNBA rings and have won multiple (at least 2) MVP's and perhaps 1x DPOY award as well. Calling it now, she will finish her pro career as a top 5 all time to ever play the game in women's ball. She will live up to the hype, and even potentially and some. Her shooting is that good. You guys have to remember, she is only going to get better as she develops her game. She won't slow down until her late 20's, and she's already entering the league as a solid contributor. I have high hopes, barring any set backs like injuries or personal motivations which based on her personality she is very driven and competitive and has a great family support system.
😂 you think the wnba is lasting another 15 years. Oh that's a good one. They tried to separate from the NBA and it's backing recently, if the NBA gets tired of their inflated egos the league crashes in less than 3 more years. I do believe she is skilled but the pettyness the wnba players walk around with is beyond toxic.
@@shanaeverowe9626 it’s been a league since 1996 you egg. They can def survive for another 15 years especially with higher competitive play coming into the league
@@adnanomeragic9597 they have only survived because the NBA is footing the bill. They lose on average 10 million a year. And they want better flights and pay that will more then double those loses. When the last TV deal was signed they were angry thinking they left potential money on the table because they were signed as a packaged deal with the nba. When they would never get a deal with any major networks with how bad the product is to watch. If the NBA stopped backing the league and let them fend for themselves(even giving them a clean slate pre say on their existing debts) they would not last. It's the same thing that has shuttered the spring football leagues. They might have one or two teams with pockets deep enough to survive, but not enough teams in the league to rough it out.
She has the entire state of Iowa supporting her even Cyclones like me . She’s a phenom. Tiger Woods type shock and awe. She played in the football stadium this fall Mark my words she will make veterans look stupid just like Larry Bird did. She beats them with her mind!!!
Caitlin will bring in more revenue and sponsors to the WNBA and will importantly put fannies in the seats and every WNBA player one day will have more money in their bank account.
She passed on $10 million to play in the WNBA for $76,000 a year? Damn I feel bad for her that you love a sport that much and do so much for it but the people in charge don’t think you’re worth it at all and you still choose them.
with her endorsements she's not hurting at all. It was a business move to get in on the WNBA and if the league could stop throwing tantrums because she doesn't fit the DEI standards it's a win win situation for everyone.
The jealousy of older players actually makes for a more interesting storyline- now folks who have never watched a WNBA game may actually tune in to see if Caitlin Clark can prove them wrong. I think the jealousy is just 4-D chess.
ironically though, taurasi and swoopes dismissing caitlin has made me more hyped to see her get to the wnba and make these crusty, hating ass old heads eat their words lol. and i'm sure many others feel the same way.
If I ran the Fever, I'd cut everyone and draft 10 rookies. Completely start over with the right attitude. And don't tell me five 22 year old women's basketball players can't beat a veteran WNBA team. Dayum .. my local high school could give the WNBA a run for their money. Watching these prima donna athletes who THINK they deserve more money yet they can't fill a stadium is a joke. Watching them cut off their lifeline out of spite? Priceless...
The fever veterans aren’t the problem, they have been very welcoming. It is other WNBA players that are jealous. The old veterans running their mouths on other teams just need to go. I watched more basketball this past March in the women’s tournament than I have in my entire life and I am a woman.
I have never watched a woman's basketball game in my life but I did watch Iowa in the NCAA woman's tournament.. she is one person that I would like to a autograph from
im saying that all the last season long. WNBA ""stars"" are so jelaous on her, and im afraid,because women are like that, that someone will injury her.
She's never say anything negative or mean !! When she plays she's just like a normal person unbelievably unselfish person why are others trying to bring her down to their level of mudslinging
I think there are two things going on here. The WNBA was on the rise before CC, but now she's being attached to the narrative of its rise, when in reality the rise has more to do with the massive rise in sports gambling. There just isn't enough men's professional sports to satiate the gaming industry. The media is generating a lot of this beef to drum up interest and keep people gambling, when the reality is that beefs happen all the time, but suddenly now everyone is interested because of this new play the media has told you to be interested in, and "the black lesbians are jealous of the pretty straight white girl." I don't know if they actually are jealous, but its not different from oldheads in the NBA resenting the new talent making more than them, I'd be pissed too if I was making $200K a year and suddenly there were dudes getting $100 million contracts.
They complain that no one‘s watching they finally get people to watch because of Kaitlyn and now they’re complaining again geez talk about your miserable people.
She looks normal, acts normal, and play instead of talking crap, on top of that she is competing in a sea of mediocrity.. of course they hate her she proves what we have said , you need to play well to get the views not talk crap about the men who are subsidizing your existence.. its obvious ppl a re watching to watch her play and dunk on the toxic karens
I don’t believe they’re hating on her. However, the way new generation set is set up everything is hating. All baby girl gotta do is show up and kick the W’s ass🤷🏿♂️ most of them are speaking on their experiences and she can shut it all down.
This is a PRIME example of women's hatred for each other. Its hilarious to watch in real time. Like they can't help themselves! 😭😭 thinking with No logic... All emotions.. They could all benefit from this Rookie but the HATE....the hate is just tooooo GREAT with women. 💀🤣💀🤣
Someone give em a reality show if they wanna be that openly dismissive of the only thing having a dude even consider checking out girls hooping. She should win MVP, Rookie of the Year, & win a ring all in a year, and then dip for BIG 3. Tell em they had their chance and now they can continue to make more than they deserve as far as entertainment value.
Inability to Discuss Reality (Distinctive Cultural Aspect #1 + Distinctive Cultural Aspect #2) + Lack of Awareness + Unrealistic Expectations + Jealousy = Failed Business Model. Caitlin Clark won't be the one to turn this around as they will freeze her out socially and literally. This situation is no different than when Mark Eaton (GRHS) said that Michael Jordan would never be able to carry a team.... He was right, but MJ could lead a team, and he did... I wish Caitlin the best of luck working with DCA#1 and DCA#2 .
It's worth pointing out that it is in no way surprising that the women's ncaa championship game had higher viewership than the men's. A large part of that is Caitlyn Clark. Another part is that the women's game was played on a Sunday afternoon (I think like a 4pm eastern tip off). The men's game was played the following day, MONDAY AT 9:20 PM WHAT ARE YOU DOING. A weeknight 9:20 est tip off for a game with two teams from the eastern time zone is insane.
i’m not trying to discount caitlyn but i think the main reason the women’s tourney was bigger than the men’s this year is because this years nba draft is the worst in decades. no one in the draft is a game changer
Same vibes as Darius Miles and Carlos Boozer in 2003 saying the Cavs didn't need LeBron, except the Cavs weren't a financially failing franchise that had never made a profit in its entire history of existence. So the way the WNBA veterans and alumni are treating Caitlin Clark is even more insane. I get it, you don't want to bow down to the new unproven kid, but you don't need to start kicking the golden goose either.
The WNBA and their players need to be more grateful to Clark and the next generation of players that's coming with her. This woman denied a 5 million deal to play in the WNBA.
They better not do that young lady like that. They should embrace that girl. They know they down bad and wrong if they don’t. She young, talented and doing right and she finished college. We can’t afford to do our young people that are out here doing right like that. We got to help them and encourage them.
To Briana Stewart: Assuming the rest of the rosters are equal between say, South Carolina and Iowa, you would have a point. Clark would need to have a championship ring. However, that is not the proper assumption. Your UConn attitude is showing.
This drama might bring in more views for the WNBA. If the kardashians can get popular by tearing each other down so can the WNBA. Basketball is just the background to a new drama show for women.
If I were Angel Reese, I’d continue being the “villain”, because every great needs a great rival. Magic wouldn’t be as big if not for Bird. LeBron wouldn’t be as big if not for Tim Duncan, Kobe and Steph.
There would probably not be a market for a second guy's league that played in the summer. Having a women's league at the same time and expecting it to succeed is confusing. Maybe I'm missing something. Katilyn has played during basketball season. I don't think her playing in the summer is going to draw people away from baseball and other summer activities.
Honestly I’ve come all the way around and realized this reaction by the players is good for Clark. She needs a heel for the entertainment value to stay high since so few players are as good as her. The whole league is her heel right now. There’s gonna be a quote from every team she faces that makes it worth tuning in to see her make them eat their words
I hope Caitlin destroys the wnba this year because these haters need to relax and enjoy the ride this year watch the ratings rise because of her. I wish her well and stay safe.
She's literally the exact lifeline the WNBA has needed for decades and the moment she gets into the league she's treated with nothing but contempt and jealousy. Seems like the main reasons the WNBA has never had success is because of boring games and extremely oblivious but entitled players.
This girl's game is not ready for the WNBA. She will not be great instently. Anybosy who has watvhed women's basketball for years kniws this. She is about to meet some grown ass women on the court.
Ahhhh just like dating ladies see a better younger version and immediately get threatened so they try and knock em down and out even if theyre on their side fighting for their cause.
WNBA “legends” need to realize there role and get the F out of the way. And not be hurt because they couldn’t do what she is for this sport. Be humble and realize this is best for everyone, or do you and possibly keep the WNBA where it’s always been…. Not relevant
They just don’t want to accept she’s the person to take the wnba to a new level. Kinda like Jordan did after bird and magic. But it’s not just her I heard they were hating on angel and the new class too.
