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Cajon Pass "Great Race" & ATSF 3751 (Longer Version)

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The first clips are from the "Great Race" (Southern Pacific 4449 and Union Pacific 8444) over Cajon Pass May 8, 1989. This was part of the 50th anniversary celebration for LA's Union Station.
The second ones are from Santa Fe 3751 pulling the Santa Fe Railway Employee Appreciation Special, August 30, 1992 (Los Angeles - Chicago - Los Angeles). This was it's first distance run after restoration. This footage is from Anaheim, Corona and Riverside, then to Cajon.
Gotta love the sounds. And the reaction of people at grade crossings who had no idea...
Keep in mind this was filmed trying to balance a 20-pound shoulder-buster direct-to-tape VHS camera in some slightly precarious positions. Luckily, I knew my way around from years spent chasing.
I wish I had today's technology back then...

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@kathleenwaddington7924 8 лет назад

Thanks for the footage of the 3751. It holds a special place in my heart. My grandfather worked on the restorationof the engine and would also be the fireman on occasion. Love the steam

@okaythen250 8 лет назад

Man 4449 and 844 are just perfect together in my opinion. They raced and doubleheaded together, bet soon something else will happen with both the completion of the 4449s inspection, and 844s updates

@kourtneykaine4884 7 лет назад

Wish 3751 would pull a consist like that again, great video!

@danielboone3770 3 года назад

This is an awesome race! Interesting how this sorta resembles the Thomas & Friends episode Thomas & Bertie's Great Race of Season 1.

@jacksalvin364 10 лет назад

In August and September 1992, Santa Fe 4-8-4 3751 leads a first Santa Fe Employee Special from Los Angeles, California to Chicago, Illinois and return.

@kevinmills8437 3 года назад

Yep.

@chico4449 7 лет назад

So If anyone has "Steam to Los Angeles" from Pentrex, this part of the film is my favorite part. Because of 4449's chimes. I've been looking everywhere hoping someone got a different vantage point. And now, NOW I've found it

@kevinmills8437 3 года назад

Cool.

@ct92404 6 лет назад

I would have been in 6th grade when you recorded the 1989 video. I wish I had known about these steam locomotives running, I would have loved to see that!

@brownhornet1975 7 лет назад

Great compilation thank you for sharing

@phillyfan-182 5 лет назад

Best trains are the up 844, up 3985, sp 4449, sp 2472, atsf 3751. Love that quintet of steam locomotives!!!!

@NationalGuard5 6 лет назад

Perfect trifecta: ATSF 3751, SP 4449 and UP 8444 with original whistles all going to Santa Fe Depot in San Diego.

@ironhorsemedia2881 3 года назад

4449 did not have its original whistle in this

@nayastellini2610 Год назад

Neither did 3751, it wore a D&RGW 5 chime for the longest time

@TrainTrackTrav 5 лет назад

The irony is that if they were to repeat something like this with these two locos, they would most likely be on the opposite tracks. 844 would be on the Palmdale Cutoff, while 4449 would be on the Cajon Sub. Interesting when you think about it.

@valerierosa7699 Месяц назад

Look it’s the Santa Fe 3751!!!🚂 9:56

@antonbruce1241 3 года назад

UP 8444, SP 4449 and AT&SF 3751....three great classy ladies of the rails.

@Glaudge 5 лет назад

can somebody tell me what happened to 844's whistle from then to now? it sounded soo much better here than it does now

@NEAFarmKid4010 4 года назад

The 844 has a different whistle on it now. It has a Big Boys on it, many say it's one of the 4014s old whistles

@user-mp2tk3pw6j 6 лет назад

an F40PH cool that’s my favourite train!!!

@theark-la-missrailfan 2 года назад

4449 sounds incredible in this!

@jdgfilms9595 6 лет назад

Was that 3751 old ATSF 5 Chime!? It sounds like a D&RGW but i know its a ATSF 5 Chime

@singwith 10 лет назад

Very nice!

@jacksalvin364 10 лет назад

Southern Pacific Daylight #4449 and Union Pacific 4-8-4 #844 side by side on the Cajon Pass for 50th Anniversary of Los Angeles Union Station in 1989.

@okaythen250 8 лет назад

And then in 2007 they doublehead

@jacksalvin364 7 лет назад

4449 and 844 on the Puget Sound Excursion between Tacoma and Everett, Washington.

@Railfan1000 10 лет назад

How horrible was the traffic for you in the 1989 race and going up to Summit? Also what was the traffic like with 3751?

@craigisaman4124 10 лет назад

RE: 1989 -- I honestly don't remember, I was more concerned with getting to the next spot ahead of them. I knew my way around pretty well and knew most of the back roads. Plus, if I recall, it was a weekday. RE: 3751 -- most of the shots were local to my work, so again, knowledge of side roads came into play.

@DylanRailVids04 8 лет назад

I wonder if the 4449 still has is sp 3 chime whistle today because I love that whistle.

@okaythen250 8 лет назад

Don't think so, I can't recall what whistle it has but it sounds like the 844's a bit.

@aceoftrainsproductions745 6 лет назад

It's a hancock 3 chime that came from an SP&S challenger. It's on 700 now.

@danielboone3770 3 года назад

I really wish I coulda seen this in person.

@kevinsweeney2810 4 года назад

Amtrak superliner from there goes a train at 5:41

@SailorMoonRailfan 4 года назад

I wish that SP 4449 still had the 6 chime or ATSF 3751 still had her Lima 5 chime today. 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

@justahillbilly7777 2 года назад

From what I hear, the high pitched whistle on the 4449 on the run up Cajon was a CB&Q 5 chime from one of their 2-10-4’s, though I’m not all that sure on the wheel arrangement of the locomotive it first came off of. The five chime that is heard on the 3751 in this video was actually a Santa Fe five chime rather then a Lima five.

@SailorMoonRailfan 2 года назад

@@justahillbilly7777 thanks for fixing my comet 12+ hours ago

@railscenes4959 3 года назад

Great location at 5” but terrible camera operation. Also it must have been a cheap movie camera with old video tape. To bad you didn’t have a decent 16mm motion picture camera.

@craigisaman4124 2 года назад

I will concede to the camera work, but as I mentioned, this was shot with a shoulder held direct VHS recorder (borrowed from my mother-in-law - all I had was an SLR...) Apparently, Kodak had just started producing consumer-grade hand helds in 1987, so were (probably) hard to come by and exorbitantly expensive.

@SuperFoxyRailwayProduction6702 Год назад

4:32

@brianfalzon6739 Год назад

Wish 3751 would have its 5 chime back on her.

@mikeshea398 4 года назад

Rule no one when filming - leave the zoom alone dont use it. Pretend it's not even there.

@craigisaman4124 2 года назад

Sorry, first time having access to/using a video camera...

@brucetharpe762 6 лет назад

5:41 what horn does the F40PH have?

@silverstatehighiron 6 лет назад

Bruce Tharpe A Nathan P5A

@carlzipperman6689 4 года назад

New casting Nathan P5a

@NYMR-Pacific-6323 3 года назад

When U Racing & An Even Bigger 4-8-4 Passes

@rosienavarro2401 6 лет назад

The union pacific is in first place

@BNSF4749Railfan 2 года назад

Where is this interlocking located at

@craigisaman4124 2 года назад

Southwest quadrant of the 10 freeway and S. La Cadena Dr. in Colton, CA. Since then (2012-2014 ??), the east-west trackage has been elevated, eliminating the diamonds...

@TrainDr101 10 лет назад

Where was the first shot of 3751 taken?

@craigisaman4124 10 лет назад

That was shot at the grade crossing on Kellogg Drive at Orangethorpe Avenue, Anaheim, CA (looking west)

@brandonburnett5300 6 месяцев назад

3751 DOES NOT NEED 3 DESEILS

@transportationproductions1794 5 лет назад

Who won the race?

@railfanjordan8141 5 лет назад

8444 because 4449 stopped due to a hotbox detector going off about a hotbox on the engine

@gingerdrizz 4 года назад

I can’t take 4449 seriously with its 6 Chime

@justahillbilly7777 2 года назад

4449 wasn’t wearing its SP 6 chime on that run up Cajon. It was a five chime, presumably of CB&Q 2-10-4 origins, though I’m not all to sure about the wheel arrangement of the locomotive the whistle first came off of.

@hanshoogendyk2203 5 лет назад

the bullshit part is that they put 3! diesels. behind the steam loco....with only some public carrages to pull 1 would have been sufficient insurance!

@justahillbilly7777 2 года назад

Ease up man. The 3751 was going the entire length of the Southern Transcon from LA to Chicago WITHOUT an auxiliary water tender, so preservation era logic tells you that those diesels were there to make the steamer’s fuel and water last for as long as possible so that they’d be able to cover as much ground as possible before having to top the tender supplies back up.