Calculating The Stagecoach Driver's Boot | Engels Coach Shop

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The driver's 'boot is where the stagecoach driver places his feet while driving the teams. Since we just have a skeleton of the original boot, we have to calculate the style and portion from what remains. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often involves working with very little.
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@user-nq6cc7gt6z Год назад

Aside from the borax wagon series which is in a class of its own, this mud wagon series is the most interesting because of all the mystery and puzzle solving. Very enjoyable.

@abelincoln95 Год назад

It's really fascinating to see you put your OCD aside to keep with the spirit of this coach. The owners have a masterpiece coming back to them. Have a blessed weekend.

@brianlittle3452 Год назад

Good use of Concrete Aided Design (CAD). Thanks for taking us along.

@secretsquirrel6308 Год назад

The original graph paper.

@1pcfred Год назад

Dave needs some Quick Grip one handed bar clamps. I use those the temporarily hold stuff until I can get better clamps onto it. So anyone that wants to get him a Christmas gift get him some of those. I bet he'd like Bessey Supergrips too. But they're spendy. He could make those himself.

@carabs3823 Год назад

I have been watching your channel for many years. I would say the last few months with all your shop and "real life" videos have been some of the best.

@overodog Год назад

We sure enjoy watching you puzzle out this project. Thanks so much.

@olddawgdreaming5715 Год назад

Here we go again, I didn't see this coming but I will welcome the adventure you are taking us on . Thanks for showing us what else is still ahead. This is a treasure of history in refabricating and repairs. Keep up the great videos and sharing with us Dave. It's awesome. Fred.

@blackbuttecruizr Год назад

Way to make a great Friday AWESOME!!!

@steveaustin4118 Год назад

It's really interesting to watch you work out the jigsaw puzzle from photos people sent you, sort of a community effort

@MichaelStn Год назад

I love hearing how you think through rebuilding a wagon based on literal scraps and hints

@Tonvanis75 Год назад

*_Sir! You are mesmerizing me by your ability to erecting the skeleton of the ghost into a beauty functional thing again. Thank you sir._*

@fordfan3179 Год назад

Easily could have been an hour! Very entertaining! Love watching it all comes together.

@davidbishop4015 Год назад

The way you go about figuring out what goes where and how it's attached is just amazing to me. I've enjoyed your videos and always look forward to the next one. Stay safe Dave.

@riverflyswatter Год назад

Love watching your mind work.

@michaelguerin56 Год назад

Aah … yes, the ‘fun’ of framing forensics🙂. At least you only have one radius to determine! Another good video with lessons for new players, including why we hold on to worked pieces that cannot be used for the current task. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿!

@jeffreyspilker2209 Год назад

Love watching and learning. Still learning at 61

@mfreund15448 Год назад

I am late today Dave. I was mowing grass. It is much better than shoveling snow!!

@GenderSkins Год назад

You know Mr. Engels, watching all this makes me miss my grandmother. As this was often the kind of stuff she and I would talk about, due to pictures of her and my grand father sitting in an old horse drawn buggy. Course by the time they got married, the horse drawn wagons was a thing of the past so it was mostly stuff they did just to have fun and be romantic with each other.

@paulkoomen5262 Год назад

I sit here and smile listening to you investigation, and think to my self we should call you Sherlock Engels . For all the detective work you are doing on this project. Well done Sir my compliments.

@charlesxix Год назад

Your box of firewood is coming on nicely, and looking great.

@michaelgillespie1206 Год назад

This project amazes me more and more.

@MichaelKingsfordGray Год назад

Me too. Initially, I assumed that it was a boring pile of old junk, not worth any attention, nor any attempt at resurrection. I have changed 180 degrees!

@singleshot2218 Год назад

Another amazing portion figured out? Coming along nicely! Take care and stay safe! God bless!✝️🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@stevegreen2432 Год назад

Glad to see you make full use of CAD. That has nothing to do with computers--it stands for CHALK AIDED DESIGN. Great series--well done.

@paulkramer4176 Год назад

Beautiful work Dave. Really nice seeing and hearing your thinking process. When that offset hole lined up so nicely... your work is validated so well. thanks!

@tomtruesdale6901 Год назад

The work that you are putting into the research, testing and design of this mud wagon shows your knowledge, skills and abilities to their fullest. Thank you for sharing this with us.

@johnnyroberts6291 Год назад

Mr. Engels, You truly amaze me. Your videos are never long enough, you always leave me wanting more. Keep up the great content.👍

@sergioulloa5382 Год назад

I have deeply enjoyed seeing you built this mud wagon.......I wouldn't have an idea where I would begin seeing those old metal frame work and old boards. My respects, Sir.

@AdmiringCrocodileHiding-st8dm 5 месяцев назад

I love your channel. Whould love to see more of the manure spreader you took apart.

@patmancrowley8509 Год назад

Much appreciated, Mr. and Mrs. Engle.

@andrewmacomber1638 Год назад

To be honest I never asked the question… why do cowboy boots have heals? But now I know! And the saying “digging in your heals”… makes sense too! Thanks Dave your history lessons have many layers! You’re just a Shrek of all trades!😁✌🏻❤️🇺🇸

@petert3355 Год назад

@@royreynolds108 If your foot is that far in a stirrup, your asking to get hung up when you get thrown. Always put only the ball of your foot in the stirrup when riding, otherwise you are gonna get dragged and a broken leg if you get thrown off.

@MichaelKingsfordGray Год назад

"heels".

@allanlavallee7171 Год назад

If you have ever rode oxbow stirrups you put your feet in up to the heel. Bronc saddles are all like that

@MichaelKingsfordGray Год назад

@@allanlavallee7171 What?

@bigredc222 Год назад

I don't know anything about saddles or horses, but the internet is a wonderful thing. The heel is there to keep the boot from sliding too far forward, but during normal riding your weight should be on the balls of your feet. In Bronk riding the boot is up to the heel. So everyone is right. I love learning new things.

@Pocketfarmer1 Год назад

I m amazed you have any hair left after all the head scratching this project is taking. Thanks for another engrossing video.

@stephenrice4554 Год назад

It's great that you take us on your forensic travels , great process , great video 👍🇬🇧

@johnpyke4537 Год назад

Dave, You know how to unscramble eggs! John, Michigan

@465maltbie Год назад

Wow, you wouldnt think something as simple as a place to put your feet would need this much work. But then I have never driven a wagon so how would I have known. Thanks for sharing the way you think this out. It is much appreciated. Charles

@massoud999 Год назад

Thanks Dave for another great history lesson.

@patrickcolahan7499 Год назад

The board with the chain hook at Minute 10:00, if you look at the rear part of the board, there is a dark shadow going vertical that appears to be left from a frame work that ran along that back edge. Could be the uprights for the canopy that you are removing showing that they did run outside of the seat rather than inside. Love the puzzle of this rebuild. Thanks for sharing.

@agrariancrafts5132 Год назад

Always interesting to see how much goes into just one part of the wagon

@georgerrust4087 Год назад

Love the detail & drama. I can't wait till next week!!

@bobhillier921 Год назад

Amazing detective work.

@johnkelly6942 Год назад

As a former architect (back before AutoCad I might add!) you could superimpose a 2-point perspective on that wagon box and determine almost exactly the size/shape of all these pieces. You have to understand the relationship of the “planes” of the various elements. All you need to know is one actual dimension and the perspective tells you the rest.

@09conrado Год назад

Yes, as a stonecarver that's what I have done in several cases. Enhance the photos, match it with a two-point perspective (no CAD here but just Sketchup, learned how to use that at the university of RU-vid) and measure all arcs and dimensions fom this model with a few clicks. But thisxworks just fine, Dave. Nice video again.

@doncc6080 Год назад

All that thinking and pondering made my head hurt. It is good you are hoarder and have the old felloes as a template to work this one out.

@roberthagood4770 Год назад

Sir I thank you for another awesome video. May GOD bless you and yours.

@TalRohan Год назад

fascinating process and an incredible insight into your depth of knowledge of wagons and how to build them.

@Ivc406 Год назад

Well, that was an education super well done on this build,love the channel regards🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🔨

@3870TheDad Год назад

Really enjoy your sharing how you work out these problems.

@michaelgardner800 Год назад

Dave, this has been a hair puller, I've look at dozens of mud wagon photos. The way it looks to me is that the wagon you are working on is a one of a kind. There are not many three seat mud wagons out there and when you do find one the iron work is all different or in a different place. Good luck is all I can say at this point. Looking forward to the next video.

@donwilliams3626 Год назад

In the game of "Clue"s you are king!

@Vikingwerk Год назад

These videos always end to soon, I’m always looking forward to the next part of the process!

@davidbohner692 Год назад

Awesome calculations 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️✅✅✅✅✅

@glencrandall7051 Год назад

The puzzle keeps getting clearer.🙂🙂

@flywayhome8903 Год назад

Once again thanks for the video.

@tonyurquhart8278 Год назад

Loving the journey of discovery with this one, thanks Dave.

@kyleriv Год назад

I’m really enjoying the discover/sleuthing needed to rebuild this wagon. For the photo you put up, it looks like the curve of the boot never goes past vertical. Also looks like the height of the foot rest is someplace near the height of the passenger seat sides. That would keep the foot rest tipped further “out” thus keeping it flatter and letting the driver to hook his boot on the back edge. Just my observations.

@64Pete Год назад

Thanks Dave. ✌🇦🇺

@joopterwijn Год назад

If you look at the previous pictures, the footrest height is about the same as the height of the backward seat. Top of the driverbox is in my opinion lower than you picture. The second (side) picture gives a good view of the driver leg position.

@pj5395 Год назад

Thank you, it’s very entertaining to watch you put this puzzle back together, love the videos. Have a great weekend..

@rustyrobinson8027 Год назад

I'm really enjoying this stagecoach series thanks

@MarcvanExel Год назад

Marvelous! Looking foward to next week already.

@waughthogwaugh3078 Год назад

Just lovin' all this. Thank you.

@timdyer6196 Год назад

Thank you so much for sharing with us looking forward to the next steps

@milt7348 Год назад

Stay safe and we'll see you next week.

@eppot1 Год назад

soooo interesting 2 see your investigation/ mockup 2 get the right place 4 everyting !!!

@huntz3215 Год назад

Master of puzzles great work.

@johnnyholland8765 Год назад

Can't wait to see it finished. That is going to be a fine coach...

@grahammorgan9635 Год назад

This would be a much more demanding task if the seat had to fit all genders ( current craziness accepted), you will get it right. Thanks again Dave

@jimdee5003 Год назад

Great job Columbo

@flannelshirtdad Год назад

I enjoyed this tutorial. Thank you.

@douglasrichardson8525 Год назад

As always Great work, Regards Doug.

@williamdowns1917 Год назад

Camera angles could be distorting what I'm seeing, but the angle of the foot in what you have mocked up will still be too acute. Still, probably the best way to figure that out is to mock it up like you plan to do. As always, fantastic work, both on the wagon, and the video.

@pat36a Год назад

I think you enjoy the conquering the challenge of the puzzle more than the build itself.

@user-hs5st8cc4r Год назад

У вас получается детективный сериал, с расследованием прошлого. Мне это нравится.

@joealbert7773 Год назад

This video posted late and I thought, "Oh no, no video from Engles' Coach Shop!". My Friday will be incomplete.

@walterlamb4756 Год назад

Another great video!

@errolpoxleitner7901 Год назад

Very good show.

@Garth2011 Год назад

Not a bad decipher ! That "boot" in the picture seems much lower than the typical coach. Thankfully the irons were all there to give some hints.

@robmarshall5100 Год назад

That was a cool geometry lesson

@machinemoverman4614 Год назад

It’s just amazing, what you can do!

@mikedavis5886 Год назад

This is great 👍

@pete_ski Год назад

Thanks Dave

@joepalazzolo4630 Год назад

The rear of the drivers box appears to be vertical with the horizon. You can use the photo to get the angle of slope on the foot rest. This has been done in crime solving for years. It is called the, Pythagoras theory.

@willwipf7030 Год назад

You are amazing,

@chuckthomas8176 Год назад

Wow. Thank u sir

@gpetheri Год назад

I agree with the other commentor, according to the picture the drivers boots look to be almost exactly the height of all the seats. You seem to be placing them a bit high, thus it curves in too far. But then again what would I know I built Radars... 😂😂

@GypsyJvan Год назад

thanks for sharing .. ...Black Art Forge...

@ronboe6325 Год назад

This coach is like an onion, you keep pealing back to reveal new mysteries - and come up with "new" solutions.

@raymondbrandt7831 Год назад

love it

@stewartfrye Год назад

Dave, the photo shows a longer drop to the boot then the 12" your using I believe. Look at the drivers leg in the photo it's almost vertical ( the lower leg ), the upper leg is almost horizontal, I suggest measuring your leg and check your dimensions, I would suggest an 18 to 20 " drop to the boot rest and approx. an measurement about the same in horizontal measurement making that 48" arc work much better to conform to the photo much better. And yes, it is a fairly upright position compared to the Yellowstone coach, But that's what the photo is showing based on an average man (driver leg dimensions) (( in my opinion). My suggestions are based on average chair dimension etc.

@Hertog_von_Berkshire Год назад

Yes, I arrive at the same place.

@ascott6804 Год назад

I measured my leg and got 23". I'm 6'2". I thought folks were tall back then. Maybe just short photographers! Lol

@joseexpeditocolaresfilho9908 Год назад

País : Brasil 🇧🇷 Estado : Ceará Cidade : Fortaleza Admiro muito o seu trabalho! 👏👏👏

@AdelinoGambiarras Год назад

Another interesting puzzle definitely is going to be alright in the end.

@2_dog_Restoration Год назад

I find the chain set up interesting. With the chain the leg length becomes adjustable for a shorter drivers vs a taller driver.

@RobertFay Год назад

*- Consider matching the foot board curve to the rear wheels' curve, Dave. Please!* *- Does the curve of the rear wheels look the same as the curve up to the diver's feet? **16:36* *- That would give the wagon the same feel to the eye, front and back* *- Match the right rear wheel in shadow to the curve of the foot board's dark shadow edge. **19:47* *- To me they are the same, if not identical curves.* *- The men standing "beside" those rear wheels are enough closer to the camera to make them "taller" than they would be standing directly next to the rear wheel...so the wheels could easily be 48", in my understanding.*

@ki4tlf Год назад

Look at it from overhead, from your camera angel, it seems if it needs to come up by using a longer arch, then go to the 19 to 20 inch distance. Right now it seems your on the bottom side of center. Instead try going to the top side of center. Where the inside of the toe board iron is at or above your T-square, then go for the 19-20 inch distance. That should cause the fellows to be almost vertical on the front face. At that point the chain angle will just about be straight.

@paulogoncalves8587 Год назад

Eu gosto deste canal ❤

@Ukepa Год назад

can't wait for the driver's seat to make it really look like something

@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Год назад

Beautiful work as always. If the four bolt holes in the top iron are not evenly spaced, why not do a fill weld on one of the middle holes and redrill to make both sides symmetrical?

@blackbuttecruizr Год назад

Quite the archeological puzzle...