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Calvinism and John MacArthur Debunked Again! Romans 3 and Total Depravity 

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@timothymcdonald7407
@timothymcdonald7407 Год назад
Johnny MacArthur takes pretty much everything out of context to try and prove his garbage teachings.
@mandolinJo
@mandolinJo Месяц назад
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
@sallyruss4574
@sallyruss4574 Месяц назад
@mandolinJo Love what you said. I don't think this man understands the word correctly. John M. clearly teaches from the word and explains we are all broken/sinners and it is because God called us. Jesus loved us first and brought us to him. Naturally we want to change our ways and give up sin. They misunderstand when it's pretty easy to get. We are sinners and God chooses us to come out of darkness to be brought into the light and by grace we are saved if we believe in our heart Jesus is Lord and after than change we also change our behavior. No one seems to understand that is what the Bible is saying. You are saved by Grace but you must change and there is now in between or gray area. I appreciate your post and you can see no one else did. God bless you!
@robg_
@robg_ 8 месяцев назад
Calvinism is wrong! Bible is so clear God came to save ALL Mankind and wishes NO ONE to parish. Why would God than choose who is to be saved and others send to Hell, total contradiction!!. God is not an author of confusion. Macarthur, Washer, Sproul and Piper are preaching a false Gospel!
@elizabethl6187
@elizabethl6187 Год назад
The most striking feature of Calvinism is the proud and controlling spirit. It’s hard to understand how powerfully attractive that is to some people.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Yes, very true! Well said.
@Schneebly743
@Schneebly743 Год назад
I've seen the same spirit in Evangelicals too. It's a striking feature of sinful man.
@elizabethl6187
@elizabethl6187 Год назад
@@Schneebly743 As a group, Evangelicals have different and well-known challenges. I’m sure you have heard all of the criticism about emotionalism, loose interpretation of scripture, etc. As a group, their strong points are openness, honesty, and sincerely desiring to share the gospel. Individuals may have a proud and controlling spirit, but for example (generally speaking): Evangelicals want to win converts and build mega-churches. Calvinists want to win arguments with Arminians and take over their churches.
@bozman247
@bozman247 7 месяцев назад
The only pride is in those thinking they chose God without His influence. Absolute pride to think you decided your way into his grace
@CodyPence-go9kq
@CodyPence-go9kq 6 месяцев назад
God Chooses us... and we Choose God. Because it is impossible to please God apart from Faith!
@clint120
@clint120 11 месяцев назад
I always thought MacArthur was dry and circular. To be honest, there was nothing edifying about his sermons. It makes sense the other popular Calvinist TV preacher, such as Piper are also.
@chuckpodruchny6048
@chuckpodruchny6048 Год назад
Do they not contradict themselves? They believe that you have no control over your salvation and that God predestined certainly ones to be saved and certainly ones to go to hell… Why are they even trying to defend what they believe ??? If God predestined and you don’t have no control, then don’t worry about it🤦‍♀️
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Exactly!
@911tbf
@911tbf 5 месяцев назад
Who, but John MacArthur, believes he is a chosen one? Why does John think he is chosen and “ to hell with the others”.
@michaelbenge2388
@michaelbenge2388 4 месяца назад
Exactly!! Not sure why they even hold church, or even debate.
@MurangiIsaiah
@MurangiIsaiah 4 месяца назад
​@AVB2that's the truth
@jeffcarlson3269
@jeffcarlson3269 2 месяца назад
@@911tbf I do not think MacArthur Ever said "to hell with the others" as you so apply state it... but there is something to consider... if we believe EVERYTHING written in the bible.. IS inspired... then that means it ALL MUST be 100% true.. Ephesians 1:4,5 tells us this... 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, if we take this strictly on face value... then we must conclude that NO one will go to hell in the final judgement.. since God predestined US unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ... then this would seem to state... we are ALL pre chosen by God to be with Him in heaven one day... right?.. if you believe some will go to hell when they die... what separates those going to heaven from those going to hell?.. man's free will?.. then what you are saying.. man's free will is stronger than God's will for man... that man is capable of gong against God... but how can we.. when in Jesus' prayer of John 17 He states He has not lost any that the Father has given Him... " While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." this one being JUDAS we must thereby deduct that Judas was one NOT chosen by God to have Jesus keep... correct?.. . and so we see that God DOES predetermine some to be lost..."so that scripture may be fulfilled..".. which scripture..?.. there are many... how about this one?.. Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." who are the wicked?... and when is the day of evil?.. in Job's day.. this happened the day when God gave Satan permission to torment Job.. for the rest of us.. it could be any time.. when the LORD needs His purposes to be fulfilled..
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 8 месяцев назад
The ultimate irony is that Macarthur runs "Grace Church Ministries" and has a radio show called "Grace To You", yet shows less grace than most people.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 8 месяцев назад
If consistent with his Calvinist doctrines it should be named "Grace to Few."
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant 6 месяцев назад
John MacArthur mocks God when he talks about grace.
@clintmiles617
@clintmiles617 4 месяца назад
So true! He only believes God has Grace for a certain group, not for all who believe. Just terrible!
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant 4 месяца назад
@@clintmiles617 If you’re not one of God’s elects, there’s no grace for you.
@kimberlyschafman7176
@kimberlyschafman7176 4 месяца назад
Truth❤
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 Год назад
John Calvin brought Muslim doctrines into Christianity. Calvinists worship a god closer to Allah than to the Triune God.
@terencealbertmcbain8041
@terencealbertmcbain8041 Год назад
That is true, without the Holy Spirit promoting us and pulling at our heart string we can not believe nor will we ever believe.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
I agree with you. However, the Calvinists whom I disagree with believe the Holy Spirit only does that to a few select people God already chose for salvation from the beginning of time, and when the Holy Spirit goes after these people at God's decreed moment they receive irresistible grace, a key doctrine of Calvinism which equates to forced salvation.
@1967John_P
@1967John_P 11 месяцев назад
I’m not a Calvinist, which I always stayed away arguing with these people, but at one time I did listen to John MacArthur and supported his ministry because he is so big on some of these radio stations. It’s not much else to listen to. Which brings a point off that eventually you start believing the teachings and doctrines of these people because of nothing to listen to in the pre-Internet days lol. But just a comment on this comment about the term “forced salvation” which I never heard until now lol but it made me think and make this comment and question what about Saul of Tarsus, who is chosen from his mothers womb, and yet in a way he was forced to surrender, which is one of the few unique ways that someone got saved, yet he still could’ve resisted the Lord (free will) instead of asking, who are you? He could’ve said how dare you blind me! Just a quick thought that came to me. I’m so glad that someone is in their right mind exposing this false teacher. I’ve done the same for quite some time to these “cultic” John MacArthurites in FB or YT. Keep the faith! 😊
@trustintheLordJesus
@trustintheLordJesus 9 месяцев назад
Saul of Tarsus didn't reject the Lord Jesus. He called Him Lord. Although he had been persecuting Jesus Saul of Tarsus correctly acknowledged Him.
@Saskinny
@Saskinny 9 месяцев назад
Correct. But the Holy Spirit woos and pulls and calls EVERYONE. If someone wants to resist and reject that wooing that is their choice. God does not force His love on anybody.
@Saskinny
@Saskinny 9 месяцев назад
@@faithonfireministries AMEN! Keep teaching the truth.
@huey7437
@huey7437 Год назад
Tackling their proof texts in this fashion is very helpful. Thank you
@skyt54
@skyt54 11 месяцев назад
I was driving home from a job one day o I5 in Oregon and as I was going through Albany I was listening to MacArthur not because i like listening to him but for the purpose of learning how to know exactly how to understand the mechanics of his gnostic philosophy AND i heard him say “ if God had wanted to save every one, I would not feel all that important “. That’s the mind of a self centered narcissist to the nth degree. Just another example of his prideful arrogance. I would not want to be in his shoes at the great white throne judgement.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 11 месяцев назад
Yep, well said.
@riaanolwage2931
@riaanolwage2931 9 месяцев назад
Yes...they are the special elect....very special....hell will be hotter for this false arrogant type
@janamaecarreri6091
@janamaecarreri6091 7 месяцев назад
I always say that John MacArthur is a narcissist! He also looks so dark to me. It’s because he’s preaching the doctrine of Satan. He said that during the tribulation if people take the Mark of the Beast they can still be saved!
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 10 дней назад
@@skyt54 God doesn't want us to feel more important than anyone else.
@tonyromero8284
@tonyromero8284 Год назад
John is totally wrong...........calvinism is like adventism both are another gospel
@jimhughes1070
@jimhughes1070 Год назад
Seventh-Day adventism?. . Don't get me started bro! I've studied the doctrines of all the major denominations of the so-called Reformation... ain't none of them very pretty! 😂🤣 But if you think keeping God's is "Cultish"... You might want to do some more " thinking"🤣🤣 after a lot more reading! 👍🙏😍
@bstein9500
@bstein9500 9 месяцев назад
Agreed.
@MrConsto
@MrConsto 8 месяцев назад
Yes do tell how SDA who go by Helen White’s “prophecies” isn’t cultist. Go ahead, I’ll grab the popcorn.
@WilliamH490
@WilliamH490 5 месяцев назад
@@jimhughes1070it’s lies and you got a false prophetess and a sorcerer and sorcerers go in the pit and you get the reward of who you follow.
@jimhughes1070
@jimhughes1070 5 месяцев назад
@@WilliamH490 As I stated previously brother... I used to know the doctrines of all the major denominations... Well over 90% can't read a calendar... I would not wear the stamp of any one of them... If I'm not mistaken... The prophecies that Ellen g White made ... Those dates have come and gone.. I admit to making fun of her a little bit since Jesus himself said that he didn't know the day... John tells you at the beginning of his gospel... "Jesus Christ is the Word of God manifest in flesh"... The day of his return is not in the Word... I am unaware of sorcerers and witches Being sanctioned in their literature... But you can bet I'm going to look it up to see if you're blowing smoke. On the other hand 😎 The pope demands that you believe in a three-headed God... And worship on the first day of the week... "The greatest Mark the Catholic church ever made on the planet"... So yes... One must be very careful if he chooses to follow someone... Instead of just read the whole Bible and believe the whole Bible... The route I always advise... Why?.. because that's the route Jesus Himself recommended... A lot!! 👍😎 And while we're at it... The Owner and Judge of all the Earth has full knowledge of everything He ever said... Only He has the wisdom and understanding to determine who belongs to a cult. If we would like to avoid being deceived... Then we should love what Jesus says... And know what those Words are. (There's a bunch of them in the Gospels... They're printed in red in my Bible).... But if I start quoting Jesus I don't have to start dodging the arrows and stones from the "Christians"... Again,.. I apologize for not being clear... Hating on people because they want to obey God is not wise...
@reyamami
@reyamami 11 месяцев назад
God bless you brother! Just coming out of Calvinist church recently here in the Philippines.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 11 месяцев назад
Amen! God bless you!
@divinenatureonline
@divinenatureonline 9 месяцев назад
@@faithonfireministries John Calvin called and he wants you back! LOL Just kidding. :)
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 Год назад
Get a concordance and look up the number of times "seek the Lord," "sought the Lord," "seeks the Lord," "seeking the Lord," "sought God," "seek God," "seeks God" or "seeking God" appears. You will be overwhelmed.
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 Год назад
@@AbBowhunter Who they apply to is humanity and God. People seeking the Lord.
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 Год назад
@@AbBowhunter Anybody who want to find the Lord. Thousands. Millions. Maybe billions. If you want names, I can't help you. There's too many.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Dave, excellent point.
@davemitchell116
@davemitchell116 Год назад
@@AbBowhunter No "special" group. Anyone can seek God.
@kimberlyschafman7176
@kimberlyschafman7176 4 месяца назад
I have watched McArthur, he condemns people constantly ,and especially women......
@Sparrowlee_
@Sparrowlee_ Год назад
Calvinist are a special kind of mean. I know I was married to one.
@GraceUponGrace116
@GraceUponGrace116 Год назад
“So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? Will the thing molded say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this”? Or does not the potter have authority over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? And what if God, wanting to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath having been prepared for destruction, and in order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory-” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭9‬:‭18‬-‭23‬ ‭ I’m curious on your interpretation of these verses
@beeflat2896
@beeflat2896 7 месяцев назад
Keep reading onto chapter 11. “For God has committed them all to disobedience, 👉that He might have mercy on all.👈” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭11‬:‭32‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Romans 9 is about God hardening Israel to crucify Jesus.
@beeflat2896
@beeflat2896 7 месяцев назад
Also. When Paul spoke of the potter, he was referring to Jeremiah’s analogy in Jeremiah 18. The clay in Jeremiah is Israel and Israel was given a choice. God’s hardening is CONDITIONAL. “The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying: “Arise and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause you to hear My words.” Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something at the wheel. And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make. Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord. “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, 👉if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.👈 And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.” ‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭18‬:‭1‬-‭10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
@beeflat2896
@beeflat2896 7 месяцев назад
@AVB2 you misunderstand my point. Even if Jeremiah was talking about Christians, the verses in Jeremiah still offer us a choice. Read what I pointed to with the little hand emojis.
@beeflat2896
@beeflat2896 5 месяцев назад
@AVB2 someone liked my comment so I guess I’m revisiting this thread. Sounds like you think the elect have a choice to leave God’s salvation?
@beeflat2896
@beeflat2896 5 месяцев назад
@AVB2 amen brother
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now 8 месяцев назад
To deny God's absolute sovereignty and our total depravity is heresy
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 8 месяцев назад
You think God determines all evil and sin if you believe in “absolute sovereignty” like most Calvinists do but I know the Bible is clear. Satan is behind sin and evil. Not God. So it is Calvinism that is in fact heresy. You will answer to God one day for calling Him evil and the reason for miser and rape, etc in order that He received glory through that evil. That is sick! The Calvinists who teach that are sick and nothing but wolves.
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now 5 месяцев назад
I never said I was Calvinist. Scripture is clear . If you chose on your own corrupt free will to choose God's claims on your life --- you will stand before God and your mouth will be STOPPED. Clear scripture
@sallyruss4574
@sallyruss4574 Месяц назад
@@Over-for-now I agree with you 100%. This guy is still on milk and doesn't understand what total depravity means.
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Месяц назад
@@faithonfireministries Did you know sir, that God declares in the OT in Isaiah that HE creates evil ? He is SUPREME and totally sovereign, HE creates evil. I the Lord do ALL these things--- He declared in Isaiah 45:7
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Месяц назад
Read Isaiah 45:7
@davidhook487
@davidhook487 Год назад
I have seen Calvinism sweep into numerous churches and absolutely stop evangelism and the fire of evangelism! They are two things that are eternal in this world and that is the Word of God and the souls of men! We make it so difficult when it is so simple. Seems like the church is often interested in programs when God is made it so simple to exegate the Word of God and reach as many people as we can with the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ! Matthew 6:33
@FearlessAfrican
@FearlessAfrican Год назад
Disciples of Branham don't share the gospel to sinners but when a sinner repent they divert him to their Calvinist doctrine.
@Fred-m6q
@Fred-m6q 11 месяцев назад
Finding your RU-vid channel and listening to you , I have peace in my heart again because I found Justin Peters channel first and I began to hate the prosperity preachers God did not call me to hate anyone ( to be clear I think prosperity preachers are false ) but I began to question my own salvation, Everytime I watched Justin I went away with this deep disturbing feeling in my spirit I felt hopeless, when I watched him attacking children is when I knew something wasn't quite right and by the grace of God I found your channel , Thank you so much
@suzannemcmaken4648
@suzannemcmaken4648 11 месяцев назад
Peters is a MacArthur supporter. Most believers are missing the gospel message of grace. Dr. Andrew Farley brought it home to me. His gospel message of grace opened my eyes. He is on all social media.
@DiosdadoRaymundo
@DiosdadoRaymundo 2 месяца назад
Except a man be born again from God, he can not see the kingdom of heaven
@ourendtimewalk
@ourendtimewalk Год назад
Tnx a lot for this. This is a proper reconciliation of scripture. You made my day.
@brittanygreen
@brittanygreen 2 месяца назад
It's a shame, even when his health is failing, instead of preaching the simple gospel, he preaches Tulip.
@robbietomberlin2265
@robbietomberlin2265 2 месяца назад
Psalm 14:4 KJV [4] Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? Who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.
@SomethingStacy
@SomethingStacy Год назад
What does it even matter to him if they're denying total depravity in the way that he believes it? Cause no one can make any decisions on their own anyway. 🤷‍♀️
@livingforjesus8551
@livingforjesus8551 Год назад
That, and on calvinisim, everything is determined by God. Which means, God determined that person to do that for his own glory. Which brings me to my other point. James White says, that Gid determined evil to happen, and if God didn't do that, then it is purposeless evil (even though the purpose of evil is evil,) then he says, this is all done for God's glory. So, either way, calvinists talk out of both sides of their mouths. They say that people are robbing God of his glory, while at the sametime saying, everything that is done, God gets the glory for it. They don't make any sense.
@jabberwocky8021
@jabberwocky8021 8 месяцев назад
Excellent! Thank you.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 8 месяцев назад
Blessings! Thanks for the encouraging word.
@SolaScriptura77
@SolaScriptura77 Год назад
"For the Gentiles who do not have the Law DO INSTINCTIVELY the things if the Law, these, not having the Law, are a Law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law WRITTEN IN THEIR HEARTS, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.". These passages debunked Total Depravity. God has written His Law into the hearts of men and men does it(Law) instinctively and because of this men has the ability to response to God positively.
@titounoundici
@titounoundici Год назад
There's no worst teaching than calvinism.
@LawlessNate
@LawlessNate 9 месяцев назад
Uniquely Calvinistic doctrine is false, but don't overstate your case. Although uniquely Calvinistic theology is false and harmful, it leaves the gospel intact and is therefore still within orthodox Christianity. If you were more careful with your phrasing you'd say something to the effect of "There's no worse teaching *within orthodox Christianity* than Calvinism", but I don't think even that would be true. There are some very much just barely on-this-side-of-the-line liberal Christians that just technically believe the gospel and get just about everything else wrong; surely that's worse than Calvinism.
@justinerasmus8725
@justinerasmus8725 6 месяцев назад
​@@LawlessNate you obviously dont understand calvinism
@LawlessNate
@LawlessNate 6 месяцев назад
@@justinerasmus8725No, I understand Calavinism. I understand the gospel, too. Explain to me why people who put their faith in Christ are somehow terrible simply for being mistaken about how they came to that faith. The important thing is having faith and putting that faith where it belongs. Calvinists do that.
@MrRicmoh
@MrRicmoh 6 месяцев назад
😂
@jimhughes1070
@jimhughes1070 5 месяцев назад
@@LawlessNate .... Little tip for both of y'all,.. 🙏🙏... "If you're guilty of breaking one... Are you not guilty of breaking the whole?".... " Total depravity"?... The doctrine uses some scriptures.... And ignores many many others. That can hardly be considered.." being true to the gospel"... Jesus said "IF you love me keep my Commandments."... Almost every Christian I encounter on RU-vid doesn't even believe it's necessary to obey Jesus. Or even what his "Commandments" are 🧐... How does one repent of sin... If he defines what sin is himself? On one hand we have Jesus, the Son of the living God.... On the other, the Pope and all his minions.... Read the Bible... The whole Bible... And believe every Word... And you will learn that "choice" began in the garden... The whole world is deceived, and choosing wrong. May the Lord have mercy on us all 🙏
@andrewtsousis3130
@andrewtsousis3130 4 месяца назад
Calvinism is as clear as mud: God picks people to be saved from eternity past, but still requires them to believe in his son who died for them only. At the same time he grants them the belief they need to believe, because they can't believe, even though he told them to believe. Then he makes sure they continue to believe, even though they were chosen to believe.
@abuelb
@abuelb 2 месяца назад
Regeneration precedes faith. Always.
@andrewtsousis3130
@andrewtsousis3130 2 месяца назад
@@abuelb show me one verse that confirms regeneration proceeds faith.
@rogofe0964
@rogofe0964 9 месяцев назад
There's danger thinking that everyone does not sin.
@bravebarnabas
@bravebarnabas Год назад
So Paul and David are talking about UNBELIEVERS, just like the calvinist. Until God grants repentance and faith, the unbeliever can't respond positively to the Gospel.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Nope, can't even see how you read the Calvinistic doctrine of Total Depravity into this text the way you did. Another example of what I have said many times... Bible believers start by reading the Bible to learn from what it has to say but Calvinists start with their false doctrines in mind and then read the Bible trying to find any way to insert their doctrines into the text and learn nothing from God's Word.
@franklinbross2602
@franklinbross2602 2 месяца назад
calvinism reminds me of gnostic teachers
@mariobunag4132
@mariobunag4132 10 месяцев назад
It is correct that the apostle Paul quoted from the psalms AND isaiah in Romans 3. I am just curious that when he wrote "No one is righteous, not one", you interpret it that he only referred to the fools and the wicked as a context. Isn't it that when we say "no one", it meant no one? David wrote in Psalm 14:3 that "They have ALL turned aside, together they have become corrupt, there is none who does good, not even one", with the previous verse stating that the Lord looks down from the heavento see IF there are those who understand, who seek God? If context is what we are looking for, we need to quote the rest of Psalm 14? Psalm 14:1 is the starting statement for what David was to expound on, that no one does good, not one seeks God. It is not good to accuse someone of false teaching when what he said is consistent with the Word of God.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 10 месяцев назад
I think you misquoted Psalm 14: 1. It says, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." That is the starting point and the group to whom David is referring to as Psalm 14 continues. So, when Paul quotes this in Romans 3, the "no one" in the group is literally the same type of person to whom David was referring to, which are the people who don't believe in God and were persecuting God's people who were the true believers. The Bible, not me, defines who "no one" is referring to. I am just reporting what the Bible says. Ignoring the correct context is just typical of Calvinists who can't get a single Bible doctrine correct it seems because they are constantly reading the Bible and misinterpreting isolated texts solely for the purpose of making it fit their man-made ideology. King David was speaking about those who don't believe in God and are fools, and he was not referring to every person alive like Calvinists claim. The context is even in the quote from Paul whom he is referring to in Romans 3 if you would just read on a little bit and not through the lens of Calvinism but just by the words on the page. Paul was not referring to born again believers. Christians, whether Jew or Gentile, have been made new in Christ, became a child of God, been redeemed and forgiven and are seen by God in the perfect righteousness of Christ. It seems this Christianity 101 basic concept is totally lost on Calvinists who think everyone is wicked and hates God with feet swift to shed blood and destruction and misery are in their ways. Nope, that simply is not true of real Christians.
@clinttaylor8730
@clinttaylor8730 8 месяцев назад
None of us are born as Christians. However, in David's time they were born into God's chosen people. Even then, there were jews that failed and were unrighteous and they needed to atone for their sins during yam kapur. (Probably spelt that wrong) Another way to look at it is that all of us, not born a jew, are not chosen by God. And by default, we are not brought up knowing God. So NO ONE can save themselves with their OWN righteousness; as Paul was explaining. But let's take that to the side and think more of David. Was he righteous? He murdered a man to get that man's wife. Yet believed in God and was still righteous enough to save himself without Grace, but only on the grounds of knowing God? We all fall short of the kingdom of God, and it's only those that put their faith in the death and resurrection of Christ to cover our sins and make us righteous in the sight of the Father. To claim to be saved by only knowing there is a God, yet not being born again, letting your soul and mind and heart be made new.... that is a fool.
@showmeanedge
@showmeanedge 8 месяцев назад
​@@clinttaylor8730are you under the impression that the Jews are still the Chosen People?
@markgreen5435
@markgreen5435 7 месяцев назад
The context for all Old Testament is before regeneration by the indwelling Holy Spirit. Now true Believers in Jesus are called the righteousness of God. Things have changed since the Day of Pentecost, if we mix Gods Promises with faith !
@justinerasmus8725
@justinerasmus8725 6 месяцев назад
Yip the old testament is still quoted "as paul did" in the new testament as guidance for us. If you deny that then you might as well deny the cross. Really
@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT
@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT Год назад
Brian, it's true the 'proof text' backNforth has been 'done' a hundred times BUT... it's still important to keep refreshing it. Calvinists are like political progressives... the ideology never stops.... There's always someone who just heard about it this afternoon for the first time. Calvinists got a 'leg up'' on RU-vid years ago and we're running to catch up... gaining.. but still not 'there' yet. I'm convinced that continuing to put up new material, even on the old subject, keeps it 'relevant' in the search and Al Gore rythmnses 😎And 'your' presentation may be the one which helps someone see clearly and avoid getting caught up in the web of the reformed. Too many people have never heard the sermon "what's wrong with Calvinism" and they're totally unprepared for the well crafted out-of-context arguments of the Calvinist trying to confuse them about how they got saved in the first place. I'm always posting with the silent 3rd party reader in mind... and I sometimes get messages from persons who were totally absent in the comments sections, thanking me for something I posted which was helpful in seeing through the 'fog' of Calvinism, even as much as 2yrs after I posted it. Keep it up.. you're doing great.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Great point, you convinced me of the importance to do it.
@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT
@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT Год назад
@@faithonfireministries I like Kevin Thompson's focus on the puzzling idea of 'why' do some Christians fall for Calvinism and it's similarities with with other odd ideologies, like Marxism, etc. You probably saw Leighton's recent posting of a letter he received thanking him for a video he did quite some time ago which had one point out of an hour.😎.. that caused them to stop and rethink it... and that was the catalyst which paved their way of escape. In the same way that you may witness Christ to a nonbeliever I could never reach, and vice versa, your individual 'take' on the flaws and errors of Calvinism can be the key that unlocks a door which others may never offer. Carry on, ... Say, what's that guitar in the background?
@elizabethl6187
@elizabethl6187 Год назад
“Calvinists are like political progressives”. Yes; Romans 14 excuses their sincere excesses of interpretation, but not their tactics.
@womanatthewell9603
@womanatthewell9603 Год назад
Thank you brother for another fantastic teaching. Calvinism is truly diabolical ideas that misrepresent the character of God and it’s so misleading and distorted. I subscribed to Shade, he has a mighty powerful testimony.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Wonderful! Thanks so much. God bless you!
@MD-gw4rk
@MD-gw4rk Год назад
@@faithonfireministries They never use the book of Psalms. "It is written" they so miss the fact that you have to have a heart for God a genuine heart towards God. They miss that entirely. A lot of people who defend Calvinism do not express love that people have. The Word of God pierces your heart. God even says "the peoples hearts wax cold"
@trevorwood5433
@trevorwood5433 Год назад
Apostle Paul taught about inability to believe: 2Cor 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
@womanatthewell9603
@womanatthewell9603 Год назад
@@trevorwood5433 that passage is about the “god” of this world that has blinded people” that is referring to satan. Not God! God gave satan time in our earthly realm to take willing captives. He wanted to be like God!! This is why everyone needs the gospel. Salvation is for everyone. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Gods plan is for everyone to go through Christ.
@trevorwood5433
@trevorwood5433 Год назад
@@womanatthewell9603 - that's exactly what I am saying. Men are kept under Satan's bondage until God breaks through with the light of the glory of the Gospel of Christ. God has handed all men over to disobedience that he may have mercy on all.
@prashanttimblo8734
@prashanttimblo8734 Месяц назад
I was from a Hindu background and an atheist from my science academics. There is no chance I would have ever accepted Jesus as my Lord via religious teachings from Christians like John MacArthur. However, the Charisms of the Holy Spirit and speaking in Tongues followed by signs, wonders, and miracles led me to affirm Jesus as per Romans 10:9. I honestly believe the truth in John 14:12 and other scriptures in the Bible. How can one miss it?
@Rocky11WWW
@Rocky11WWW 24 дня назад
Thank you so much for this very good video contrasting what John teaches and what the Bible in context says.
@jonathanaverink3641
@jonathanaverink3641 8 месяцев назад
”And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: and I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.“ ‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭37‬:‭3‬-‭6‬ ‭KJV‬‬ We are spiritually dead people! Read your Bible! John 3 ”Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.“ and Eph 2 ”And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;“
@chrisbarry6217
@chrisbarry6217 6 месяцев назад
All you need to say: Tell us what he said or let us hear what he said and then bring us to Gods Word and explain where John was wrong. The danger is, if you speak too much you will weary your listeners and clutter the truth on this matter; the little of you the better. You say a lot before you bring Gods Word in. This will be helpful, if you consider, what I’ve said. The preachers in Nehemiah chapter 8 verse 8 shows us how this preaching should be done. “So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.” Far to mush chatter from you, telling us what you are going to do. Prepare yourself before God and be his spokesperson. We should, as it were, speak and walk timidly, it is true many of Gods teachers are bringing out untruths, these days, But because they are servants to Him; we should have restraint and speak with this verse in mind, “Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.” Romans 14 verse 4 Finally, we know the scriptures are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
@fredotlogetswe3047
@fredotlogetswe3047 Год назад
I watched his teaching about SIN- My conclusion is the problem is us believers we listen to prophets and pastors who condemn us, who don't preach the good news but bad news, they use the scripture where it talks about sin to rub it in that we are sinners and we're going to hell, BUT only Jesus Christ was without sin and there is no how we're going to be perfect like him. The Good News is that Jesus is there for us sinners who believe in him, He came to the world for us sinners and he is with us even now, His work was done on the cross. I am not justifying sin but we can't let sinners like us condemn us. We can't live in bondage of fear (fear of sinning) while Jesus said we're free indeed. We're not under the law but under grace. This narrow path is a journey, so God's mercies on us are renewed daily.
@fredotlogetswe3047
@fredotlogetswe3047 Год назад
@@Frieden-durch-Jesus Very True, they are doing works of satan, condemnation ministry.
@Robbie-vu6pl
@Robbie-vu6pl 3 месяца назад
Is my thought on this correct? please let me know thanks... Calvinists', when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather Год назад
Just went too the link and subbed to the True Church ⛪ Ministry, Done ✔ and I'll watch it as soon as I'm done here.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Great, thanks!
@1967John_P
@1967John_P 11 месяцев назад
I might as well add my two cents in just the comments by itself to say that for years as a former listener supporter of John, MacArthur, just the cessationism alone, got me away from him and his supporters. Now when I come across his supporters, it is no different than when you come across a Jehovah witness, a Scientologist, or a Mormon. I had a friend who was a Calvinist and I repeat HAD but it had nothing to do with Calvinism, but him ripping apart, making posts against our Prime Minister, which the Scriptures clearly opposes. But anyways these followers of John MacArthur refuse to change. They refuse to basically even listen to you no matter what scriptures you show them because they’ll have “their scriptures.” On and on back-and-forth, banging your head against the wall, there comes a time or even Paul kicked the dust off his feet and just kept walking to the next city. It’s the same with these Calvinists that you can waste tons and tons of your life to no avail , when you could do something productive, like go fishing, go hiking, make a water colour painting, make a delicious meal for your wife and give her lots of kisses afterwards. But to sit there for hours on RU-vid or on Facebook arguing with these cult members of John MacArthur‘s elite group is a complete waste of time. Redeem your time for the days are evil. Because you won’t be able to get it back. I know it.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 11 месяцев назад
I agree with much of your sentiment, except that occasionally one of those cult members actually breaks free because they started reading the Bible for themselves instead of have the distorted Calvinist perspective spoon fed to them. But mainly the point of speaking out against the dangers of Calvinism is so newer Christians will be warned to understand what it is all about so they see the red flags and avoid going down that path.
@clin4everchey
@clin4everchey Год назад
Man you are truly standing against these liers
@stephend7420
@stephend7420 Месяц назад
Good job! I have been in a Calvinist (Reformed) church and made good friends there. But the ultimate truth is that Calvinists always think that being saved requires only one condition and that is having the 'correct' doctrine. A moment's reflection should be enough for people to realise that salvation requires a right relationship with God and therefore has nothing to do with doctrine.
@cwdesigns101
@cwdesigns101 2 месяца назад
Funny John, MacArthur says “they can’t even be Christians at all and how sad that is to mislead them.”Well what difference does it make? Why, because if you’re not going to heaven anyway and they’re all going to hell- why would that be sad. At least those who aren’t Calvinist gave them hope on earth until they go to hell… right?
@andrewtsousis3130
@andrewtsousis3130 4 месяца назад
TULIP is purpose built to remove man’s requirement to believe the Gospel. T - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we can’t) U - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we’re already saved) L - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says Jesus atonement wasn’t for all sin just the chosen, back to point U) I - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we can’t believe God will make us believe) P - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus. (Says God will make us preserve) Any teaching that removes our requirement to believe in Christ, and takes the focus off Christ alone for salvation is a false teaching. If anyone has to question if their family and friends are “elect” their hope for salvation is not in Christ alone, it’s in “election”. In Calvinism Christs work on the cross takes a back seat to “election”. Of course Calvinists will not say this, but it is what it is.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 4 месяца назад
Well said. You understand Calvinism much better than most Calvinists do. Calvinism has a subtle but real seducing and bewitching spirit about it. It takes spiritual maturity and discernment to recognize that. It's so sad how many Calvinists have been bewitched and lost their ability to think straight and realize the actual implications of the utter nonsense they claim to adhere to.
@andrewtsousis3130
@andrewtsousis3130 4 месяца назад
@@faithonfireministries I honestly think Calvinisim is one of the enemies most masterful deceptions. Imagine interpreting scripture in such a way that it removes Christ alone for salvation, (but leaves Him in there just enough to seem true), defames the character of God himself, and does all of this in the name of Gods Sovereignty.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 4 месяца назад
Yep, doesn't get much worse than that.
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather Год назад
Your breakdown of the Text is perfect. Thank you, Please if you could keep these coming. You truly have been a Blessing too me and to help me, even coming from someone like myself who has always studied out of the NASB 😁 🙏
@davidcramer9484
@davidcramer9484 Год назад
Brian-thanks for talking about the total depravity of Calvinism which is total inability. The Calvinists used Romans 3. Psalms 14, David talked about a God-denying person. And Paul talked about Psalms 14 in Romans 3. Very good, Brian.
@jimmattson8008
@jimmattson8008 Месяц назад
So happy that you made this video to explain the false teachings that my best friend has been trying to put upon me. Thank you a bunch!
@kevinevans8892
@kevinevans8892 Год назад
Dr. R.C. Sproul argued in his Essentials of the Christian Faith that total depravity is not utter depravity. We are not as wicked as we possibly could be said Sproul. His view on total depravity aligns more with the Bible
@jasonk8793
@jasonk8793 6 месяцев назад
Romans uses the phrase that none seek after God in referring to Jews and Gentiles. It is a reference from Psalms but Paul uses it in reference to Jews and Gentiles (everyone) not modern Bible teachers. You have ignored the context of Romans 3.
@silverlining284
@silverlining284 4 месяца назад
Thank you. I need prayers because I think I really dont like this man one bit. Thank you for telling the truth about him. 🌹 so true what you say.
@kenallen2256
@kenallen2256 Год назад
Thanks Bryan ! Can’t talked to Calvinist without them getting frustrated. I just give up and point them your direction. Keep up the good work Brother
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
I will, thanks brother! God bless you!
@trevorwood5433
@trevorwood5433 Год назад
Apostle Paul taught about inability to believe: 2Cor 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
@truth7416
@truth7416 Год назад
The Calvinist mind is ok with god sending and condemned most people to hell, as long as it isn't them. Therefore because the Reformed 5-Point Calvinist members refuses "WILL NOT" repent and be baptized they go through life thinking "THEY" are selected for salvation when they are "NOT!" I see so many of them on their death beds in total fear that perhaps they were not selected at all. Which is the only truth they ever speak of! True full blow Calvinists are not even saved let alone Christians. Christians are Christians! Calvinists are Calvinists! Mormons are Mormons! Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are.... thus god also created evil! Therefore since Calvinists believe god created evil, they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin! Calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. Since Calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, which removes Jesus from the equation. Since god (according to Calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need Christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to Christ, thus Calvinists are not Christians. Yet if they are still breathing and have a heart beat, they can turn to Christ and God will forgive them. A fool says in his heart that he is wise. A fool is seen for what he is by those with discernment. Reader know this, I post these things for you to be warned of the heresy people like this spew out. Their god is calvi-god and calvi-jesus which are a figment made up out of their deranged imagination. Jesus loves them and wants to save them they simply need to turn away from man and turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness and follow Him. Simple. Truth in love Why would God send a prophet telling them to repent if it is God himself who decides whether they will repent or not? Calvinism is ridiculous.
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY
@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY Год назад
They get frustrated because their heretical TULIP is not in the bible 🤣
@livingforjesus8551
@livingforjesus8551 Год назад
​@@trevorwood5433 Where at in these verse doez it say that they cannot believe, it doesn't. Also, at one point in time you were, just like everyone that has been born. That means at ine point in time, the gospel was hid to you, and the devil had you blinded also. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 King James Version 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
@josephbachota
@josephbachota Год назад
what also bothers me is how Calvinist use Romans 3, as if that still applies to us as believers! No, all have sinned and fall short of the glory God, and there is none righteous no not one, is the state of man before we got saved by Christ or without Christ. But Romans 4 starts off by saying, WE, being believers, have been justified with Christ. Paul also says in 2 Cor 5:17-21 that we are now the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. So as believers, we are righteous now in Christ! So, do we miss it and sin from time to time, yes, and do we fall short yes, but we are righteous in Christ now, so Romans 4 is where we are. Romans 3 is the state of man without Christ, proving ALL need Christ both Jew and Gentiles alike, that's the context. not that all are still scumbags whether you are saved or not. No! When we are saved, we are righteous now, if not, what is the difference between the saved and unsaved? thanks.
@GarthDomokos
@GarthDomokos Год назад
"Atheism is the fruit of Macarthurism". If total depravity is correct, then every thought, word, deed, no matter of its intention, needs to be repented of, including any interpretation of the bible. Every conversion experience, as well, is housed out of depravation, and is thus corrupted. Thus every thought of Jesus is thus corrupted, and needs to be repented of.
@billyhaines5518
@billyhaines5518 11 месяцев назад
I so love that every reliable teacher I have been led to is reading from the KJV. To be fair, I believed the lies about modern translations being from the "oldest and best" manuscripts for over 10 years. Until I begged the Lord to help me understand why there were so much confusion and debate. I read a different translation year after year, sometimes 4 at a time to get "the full meaning" of the text, searching blue letter for the Greek and Hebrew, watching endless debates. Then a sister in Christ gifted us a KJV Bible for our newborn son and I began to read...Every Word from the mouth of God matters. Make sure you are not reading an interpretation, with at least 10% of the words changed solely to be able to obtain a copyright and make money.
@johnflorio3576
@johnflorio3576 11 месяцев назад
The KJV IS a modern translation. There were sixteen centuries of salvation history before it was composed.
@LawlessNate
@LawlessNate 9 месяцев назад
The Bible wasn't written in English. The KJV isn't as accurate of a representation of God's word as the original texts were in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramic. By comparing English translations to the original texts they were written in, we can know that the KJV isn't the most accurate translation of the Bible. It's certainly good enough and there's barely any functional difference between it and other more modern translations, but the newer English translations based on more recent manuscript evidence are objectively more accurate, albeit very slightly and in just a handful of verses. I don't like the KJV personally. The translation itself is fine; the substance is there. However, in addition to the substance there's also the fluff of "thee"s and "thou"s. The KJV trains people to want fluff, and there's a huge issue with much of humanity that when they seek for God they seek for fluff instead of substance. They will go to a church based on how beautiful the building is instead of how accurate the teaching is inside. They will go to the place that makes them feel good instead of the place that properly uses God's word to inspire conviction of their sin.
@peggyhatfield9058
@peggyhatfield9058 Месяц назад
I remember when the pbs series on the civil war was on..most people then were under calvanism and they quoted people from that era who would say "we can't know for sure if we are saved or if we will go to heaven." I felt sorry for them. To not know? Is so against God's word
@ta3p-theannex3project84
@ta3p-theannex3project84 Год назад
JM makes preaching useless, God didnt visit me so i go to hell. I am made by God to go to hell? Its a cruel God.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Yep, he does not come out and bluntly say it like that, but in a nutshell you correctly summed up his theology and his view of God. Very sad.
@Esuras98
@Esuras98 7 месяцев назад
I'm no fan of jmac, but in the clip he does not say "Total Depravity" there is a difference between someone preaching a false prosperity gospel saying man is basically good and a calvinist inserting "total depravity" into a text. I think jmac was speaking of the prosperity proclaimer in that clip. I know several calvinist who put him on a pedestal,but even though they disagree with my Provisionist beliefs they have never accused me of being or treated me as an unbeliever. ALL CHRISTIANS need to stop with the infighting, it is does NOTHING to win the lost or glorify CHRIST. 1 Cor. 2:2
@yoshiyahu28
@yoshiyahu28 7 месяцев назад
Right on brother people focus to much on the me points and not that there are people lost that haven't heard the gosple
@silverhaze_2121
@silverhaze_2121 Год назад
I appreciate some light being shed on this topic, it has helped me understand even more what is being taught and how to refute it. GOD BLESS YOU SIR!!!
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now 8 месяцев назад
Total depravity is absolutely true. Thank God for His absolute sovereignty in salvation
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 8 месяцев назад
No it isn’t. God delegated authority to every person to make decisions about what God has revealed about Himself and every person who rejects Christ do so by their own decision and choice despite all that God does to reveal the truth to all mankind.
@JimNunleyJimNunley
@JimNunleyJimNunley 5 месяцев назад
We're totally depraved in our sins - but we totally have the ability to call out to God in faith for salvation. Stop playing word games.
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now 5 месяцев назад
@@JimNunleyJimNunley it's scriptural --- no word games with God. We should NOT try to twist scripture to fit our naritive or what we perceive as " fair "
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now 5 месяцев назад
@@faithonfireministries The Bible is clear THAT we will NOT come and we cannot come. We accept scripture just as it comes from the lips of Jesus and from Paul's gospel. It doesn't seem FAIR to us humans BUT we ARE NOT God. HIS ways ARE past finding out. If we do come to Jesus and get saved ---- it's ONLY HIS mercy and HIS sovereign grace that picked us up. I know many Jewish Christians who say that God brought them to saving faith while they were kicking and screaming against it. They KNOW THAT God was the ONE WHO chose to save them. How thankful they ARE. Thank you Jesus
@Imsaved777
@Imsaved777 3 месяца назад
Did you even watch this video?
@danny12788
@danny12788 Год назад
These calvinists are truly deceived.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Yes, you said it! They are indeed.
@davidazinger5639
@davidazinger5639 8 месяцев назад
If God is author of our salvation, then why do some die unsaved ? Because God did not author their salvation !!!!
@jma8352
@jma8352 Год назад
Calvinism conflicts John 3:16 (WHOSOEVER)16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@SoliDeoGloria-ph6be
@SoliDeoGloria-ph6be Год назад
Calvinism absolutely does not deny the whosoever in John 3:16. They would teach that who ever believes was previous to that belief made spiritually alive by the spirit of God. And if you look at the context of John 3:16 it does support a work of the holy spirit before belief. V6 says that which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of spirit is spirit v7 do not be amazed that I said to you, you must be born again. V8 the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it but do not know where it comes from or where it is going, so is everyone who is born of the spirit. And later in v19 it says this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather then the light, for their deeds were evil.
@davidz6490
@davidz6490 Месяц назад
I saw an old video clip when John McArthur was young. He gave the true answer of how to be saved then. So he may be saved and fell into his false doctrine later!
@believein1
@believein1 10 месяцев назад
The gospel states we are forgiven and saved by repentance and faith, not “election.” And that anyone who brings a false gospel is condemned and cursed. In truth, would you say MacArthur and any Calvinist for that matter is saved?
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 10 месяцев назад
Funny you ask that. I have a video I just recorded earlier today and it will be coming out next week, maybe Tuesday or Thursday (we shall see as I have not scheduled it just yet) in which that is the subject... Are Calvinists Saved? I walk through the Scripture on salvation and what the Gospel is and what it means to believe in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ in accordance with Scripture as it says in 1 Cor 15: 3,4. "In accordance with Scripture" which Paul wrote in those verses is the focus of the video. We know Calvinists believe in Jesus, but do they believe in Jesus, in particular in his death on the cross in accordance with Scripture? I think this will be a very compelling video for many to watch. God bless you!
@BornAgainJohn
@BornAgainJohn 5 месяцев назад
Who gives faith and repentance?
@stephaniebergmann80
@stephaniebergmann80 Год назад
Thank you! Praise God he lead me to you and Joshua Chavez. I had only listened JM and JP before I never have believed calvinist.
@ellentracey5274
@ellentracey5274 Год назад
Again.. I Thank You. God Bless You. I was sick about the Limited Atonement they were teaching. I've prayed for knowledge and discernment.
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 Год назад
Why does limited atonement bother you? I don't really understand why it bothers anybody. Limited atonement has zero practical impact. Either the atonement is for everyone but only those who believe receive the benefits of it, or the atonement was only for those who believe. The end result is the same. If you switch limited atonement to universal atonement will even one single additional soul be saved? Nope. So why do people care so much about it? I don't believe in limited atonement but either way it seems to be a complete non-issue. It's like the argument between whether what God does is good because God does it or whether it is because God only does good things. It's a distinction with a difference that doesn't matter.
@franklinbross2602
@franklinbross2602 2 месяца назад
Old John as all calvinists trying to make the Bible agree with calvinism.
@bk1bennett
@bk1bennett 8 месяцев назад
In the first clip, John MacArthur essentially read a passage of scripture and summarized it then the video host said MacArthur defended total depravity. I don’t think I heard the words total depravity come out of MacArthur’s mouth. If you are going to accuse a man of some error you need to present the facts. You didn’t. I quit watching at 3:54.
@justinerasmus8725
@justinerasmus8725 6 месяцев назад
You havent???😮 wow! His gospel is based on that!!! What videos have you been watching? Also....check his Q & A. He will surprise you with his answers
@raymondhandboy4730
@raymondhandboy4730 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂. JM literally says the doctrine of depravity, if you’re missing small things like that, then apologetics might be something you don’t comment on lol. I can see why calvanists are still relevant.
@bk1bennett
@bk1bennett Месяц назад
@@raymondhandboy4730 I am not arguing in favor of Calvinism. I am arguing against extrapolating what Calvinists teach by making references to phrases they don’t use. The doctrine of depravity has a meaning. It is often not the meaning ascribed to it. Your demeaning statement against me shows the belittling attitude that many bring to the discussion. You need to get rid of that and address what people actually say. Not your strawman of what they said. Show me where MacArthur says “total depravity”. Simple. Total depravity to a Calvinist essentially means that every aspect of a person is impacted by sin.
@bk1bennett
@bk1bennett Месяц назад
@@raymondhandboy4730 And just like most posters here, you criticize things never said and ignore the things actually said. In that scoffing manner, you will never gain understanding.
@slownews6220
@slownews6220 Месяц назад
@@bk1bennett Macarthur teaches the Tulip. The "T" stands for total depravity. Of course he teaches it. Calvinists follow a devil who delighted in the burning of people at the stake. Calvin was an evil, wicked man.
@jeffcarlson3269
@jeffcarlson3269 2 месяца назад
I totally believe in the Calvinistic viewpoint... so I thought this guy is a HOOT!... it's nice to be able to see how the world defeds.. an anti Calvinistic viewpoint.. of course there are many who believe there is no HELL either.. because as they say... God would Not create a place to torture... and damn His creation.. those people pose the same argument.. God will Not destroy people He created for a reason... and according to this.. God does Not create people totally depraved unable to come to Him on their own... Proverbs 16:4 argues this... God most definitely has chosen some to remain depraved... Never to come to Him for a reason... so that His purposes may be fulfilled.. "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
@darrelldipaling
@darrelldipaling 2 месяца назад
14:38 - What Bible are you using? There's no Ephesians 8. My Holy Bible has 6 Chapters only in Ephesians.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 2 месяца назад
At 15:01 just seconds later I corrected that by saying Romans 8. So, you are just being stupid, hyper critical.
@jannepetersen4660
@jannepetersen4660 Год назад
I use to listen to him, because some of his teaching are good, but it ended very fast at one sermon, where he said that there wont be animals in Heaven, that was the last time, because I know the bible, so I could find so many chapters about animals in Heaven, so that ended my interest for him.......
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Wow, I did not know he ever said that. Crazy, but then again he has said many outrageous statements that are directly refuted in Scripture.
@jannepetersen4660
@jannepetersen4660 Год назад
@@Frieden-durch-Jesus You can find it so many places in the bible, but you have to read it, and seek wisdom, because God is spirit. Do you think that God would create a world full of wonderful animals of all kind and cizes, and let them die for good. Read Phalms 36-7 50-10-11 74-19 96-12 104-det hele 148 dte hele. People fear crogs and the hippo, but in the book of Job, you can read chapter 40 and 41 all of it, and read Gods blessing of those big dangerous animals. My old arabian horse was 30 years old when he asked to go home, not in words but in his eyes, and God told me that he had to go. I cryed because I was mourning my old friend, but I saw him and his old friend in a dream, not as old horses, but as young new creations. God loves the animals, and He know that many people love and care for them, so of course He wont separate them for good, no He will let us join our pets in Heaven, that is if we go there, but if you know the bible, you know what it takes to go there. Dont let anybody fool you or lie to you, let God show what you need to know to find peace in your heart. Why do you think some animals are very intelligent, and actually knows more about death than humans, let me tell you why, they come from Heaven as Gods creation, so they know, it is as simple as that. God bless you my friend and dont take my words for it, seek God, and he will answer......
@BrianKarr-y7h
@BrianKarr-y7h 3 месяца назад
He a also said one could take the mark of the beast and still be saved...
@louskimming4371
@louskimming4371 27 дней назад
(Romans 9:16, AVRLE) “‭16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that, but of God that sheweth mercy.” (John 1:13, AVRLE) “‭13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 Год назад
I enjoyed the smoke and mirrors part of the clip .. “and Toto, too!”
@mikelyons2831
@mikelyons2831 Год назад
Brian 1st, I appreciate your drawing awareness to another brother (Shade). 2nd, Great break down of Romans 3. Calvinists have to contrive, conflate & prevaricate so many passages to "TRY" & give validity to their man-made theological system. Looking forward to more videos on how they've highjacked so many comprehensive passages, that end up confusing saints & turn our Heavenly Father into an arbitrary Evil Step Dad.
@dustyrussell5286
@dustyrussell5286 3 месяца назад
There is a such thing called predestination in Romans chapter 9
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 3 месяца назад
No there isn't. That word shows up in just 2 chapters, Ephesians 1 and Romans 8. In both instances, it is the blessings from God that are predestined to those who are in Christ, not the Calvinist version of predestination in which they claim certain individuals are predestined unto salvation. That idea is nowhere in the Bible.
@JamesEwen-u9h
@JamesEwen-u9h 3 месяца назад
​@@faithonfireministries actually you are totally wrong this and the Calvinist view and understanding of English does indicate that there are those who God has chosen. (John chapter 10 and Romans chapter 9) These are just a few. If you want to go down this road I would be more than happy to. You do realize that in your video you have stated that you believe the apostle Paul doesn't know what he is talking about in Romans chapter 3....
@dustyrussell5286
@dustyrussell5286 2 месяца назад
@@JamesEwen-u9h so you thank God made a whole universe and didn't plan it from Genesis to Revelations predestination all over the Bible it's one of the biggest hopes I have as a believer call a calvinist but I never followed John Calvin it's the Bible it used to be common practice to teach predestination there's no way that I would ever believe that God just made the garden and didn't have a eternal plan the lamb was slain before the foundation of the Earth you're only mentioned in two spots in the Bible it's literally pampered with it and for a long time as a believer I knew nothing about it I listen to so many sermons and even Jesus says that the ones that are chosen to go to heaven that it was planned for that group from the foundation of the world
@dustyrussell5286
@dustyrussell5286 2 месяца назад
@@faithonfireministries here you go Paul said God said that he hated and loved each one before they were even born Romans 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
@sounddoctrine2601
@sounddoctrine2601 Год назад
Please read the whole context. Continue reading. Romans 3:19-20 [19] Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God. [20] For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
I am well aware of that passage, but I'm not sure what your point is.
@mobbsed
@mobbsed Год назад
Isa. 65:1 I am sought of [them that] asked not [for me]; I am found of [them that] sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation [that] was not called by my name.
@davidhorvat700
@davidhorvat700 7 месяцев назад
The following verses say the new birth is of God not of man’s decision or will ”Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.“ John 6:29 KJV For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;“ Philippians 1:27-29 KJV ”which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“ John 1:13 KJV ”For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.“ Romans 9:15-16 KJV ”For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.“ Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries 7 месяцев назад
You are cherry picking those verses and then reading your systematic theology into them. How about Romans 1:16 which affirms what you’re saying that salvation is of God, and by his power alone, we can’t save ourselves but we can certainly reach Scripture and believe God’s word, and trust in his promises, and that verse and many others make it clear that salvation is given to the ones who believe. Faith comes first. Calvinism teaches the very opposite of that, that God chooses a few and gives them salvation when they don’t believe, and then as a result, they become believers. You won’t find any Bible verse that says that, so you have to ignore clear verses and then twist other Bible verses and imply they mean something that they clearly don’t. So yes, you must make a decision and if you do not make that decision for Christ and instead you think you were chosen and saved irresistibly because you’re part of God’s elect, then you are part of a false cult and are not saved at all.
@davidhorvat700
@davidhorvat700 7 месяцев назад
@@faithonfireministries Read Isaiah 36 and 37 and notice the number of time God says I will. That is a picture of salvation within spiritual Israel which are those that are truly reborn again. Salvation is of God and that includes changing one’s heart so that they believe . When I show people that are on the fence on this subject I am always accused of cherrying picking . When 4 or 5 Verses say the same thing you’re not cherry picking .
@abuelb
@abuelb 2 месяца назад
Amen. Men are dead to sin. They are slave to sin and no way out. God has to intervene to free them. Ie. Regenerate (give them new birth) them to come to faith
@raymatthews4471
@raymatthews4471 Год назад
Brother I just subscribed to your channel. I hope you cover all of the points the Calvinists teach. Also I would like to apologize to you for some words I said to you on another livestream, I learned you were right all along the hard way. God bless you brother.
@EnHacore1
@EnHacore1 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for speaking the truth and not holding back against the Calvinism nonsense
@cherylalexander6513
@cherylalexander6513 17 дней назад
Oh no ....its sin ...we have all sinned ..we need to repent know we are in sin. God sent Jesus 🙏 for us all ....All Alll Alll born in to sin .. we ALLLLL NEED JESUS
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather Год назад
Looking forward too this one, your doing a Awesome job with all the content. Blessings 🙏 in Christ Jesus Our Lord & Savior.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Thanks so much for the words of encouragement! Much appreciated. God bless you!
@Sanctified_Leather
@Sanctified_Leather Год назад
@@faithonfireministries Absolutely, I'm watching 👀 your Video right now as I'm writing this too you. Keep fighting the good fight of the faith, you have helped and Blessed me so very much.
@kiryu-chan577
@kiryu-chan577 Год назад
Unbelievable how this modern day pharasy condemns EVERYONE. Including Billy Graham, Mother Teresa and Dr Martin Luther King.
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Yep, that is because those people were not Calvinists. He only upholds fellow Calvinists because Calvinism is a cult.
@kiryu-chan577
@kiryu-chan577 Год назад
@faithonfireministries I believe most Protestants are attending a false church even if they are trying to be true followers of Christ. TV evangelist are all the same unless they live like Christ and take a vow of poverty.
@anthonymongelli5567
@anthonymongelli5567 9 месяцев назад
We all fall short of the glory of our FATHER!!! Worthy is HIS LAMB 🐑 who takes away the sins of the world 🌎 age of GRACE!!! Healed by HIS stripes and wounded for our Transgressions!! Let everyone be a LIAR and our FATHER be TRUE HALLELUJAH and AMEN Sin increaseth GRACE increaseth MORE !!! AMAZING GRACE how sweet the sound that SAVED a wretch like ME HALLELUJAH!!!
@jimzanios3260
@jimzanios3260 3 месяца назад
These comments are from people who are confused
@tiffanyjames7150
@tiffanyjames7150 Год назад
Brian I am so glad I found your videos. I have a question for you, but first, I will preface it with it the fact I have been a student of R.C. Sproul, having listened to him daily for years on my commute to and from work. I knew he was Presbyterian I didn’t know he was a follower of Calvin and Luther so much, but as he sprinkled Luther’s life and teachings into his teachings, I soon discovered things I had never heard,being raised Baptist. He did sprinkle his personal views through out his teaching and I found it refreshing when he gave his testimony at college as he gave his heart to Christ in a chapel and the magnificent transformation. I had a problem with predestination and I just didn’t listen to those teachings, I also didn’t agree with his view of the rapture. He, however, had the power of the Holy Spirit leading his teaching to ‘agree to disagree’ on any Christian teaching and doctrine that did not infringe on the ‘actual gospel of Christ’ and to operate in the love of Christ. He was a man of character and the love of Christ. I did have so many issues with John MacAuther’s teaching in strict judgment of others….women…gifts of the Holy Spirit, etc. My question is…do all Calvinist and those who follow Luther believe that the power of the Holy Spirit to use Christians to do miracles has ceased? (to be used to pray for the sick and they be healed, being used to pray and cast our evil spirits, etc.). Thanks for any incite. God bless you
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Not all Calvinists are Cessationists but most of them are, and Calvinism is where that teaching originated from. I am so glad you phrased it as you did, that Christians are "used" by God for those miracles. Unlike Cessationists you understand that it is God with the power working through (using) a willing servant. It is not the person who has the power of miracles but only God and nobody can perform miracles on demand as leading voices of Cessationism often challenge people to do. They say, if you have the gift of healing then go into a Children's hospital and heal all those children. They don't realize their blasphemy is that they are not challenging a person, they are challenging God. They might as well say, okay God, if you still heal people then prove it by healing all these people right now so I can witness it and know you are not a liar. Jesus faced the same critics demanding a sign. Nothing has changed.
@tiffanyjames7150
@tiffanyjames7150 Год назад
@@faithonfireministries Thank you so much for this explanation. I really appreciate all of your videos and it helps so much when I am seeing or reading teachers who I find questionable regarding their alignment with the gospel or biblical teaching. Praying for your continued ministry.
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 Год назад
I do not understand the respect and reverence in the Christian community for a man who said human infants are worse than vermin.
@PETERJOHN101
@PETERJOHN101 Год назад
@@patrickbarnes9874 Especially when Jesus said their Angels do always behold the face of their Father in heaven.
@brittanygreen
@brittanygreen Месяц назад
I would also state, yes, no one is good, as in sinless. 1 Kings 8:46, 2 Chronicles 6:36, Ecclesiastes 7:20, and Romans 3:23 later on in the chapter, states the same. But, it does NOT say, (like a Calvinist would have to affirm) that we can't repent toward God, and believe toward Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). God gives that option to everyone (1 Timothy 4:10, 2 Peter 3:9). (Calvinists state they believe in repentance, but they say one has to be passive repentance, basically, God has to repent you, not you repent toward God. Weird stuff.)
@JonathanGrandt
@JonathanGrandt 4 месяца назад
Calvinist : if you don’t think God chooses who He will save then why did God prevent Paul from preaching in Asia? Answer : If God chooses who He saves according to what He has determined from eternity past, He wouldn’t need to prevent Paul from preaching to certain people because according to Calvinism a person does not believe by hearing, but by God enabling them through regeneration. God preventing Paul from preaching in Asia at that time had nothing to do with preventing people from believing
@jameslowrance5009
@jameslowrance5009 Год назад
Still watching and adding a like to each new video you place up on RU-vid Brian 👍. The Wiz of Oz analogy is spot on! Part of the elitism of Calvinist leaders, is their extremely mistaken idea of also having much greater Biblical knowledge than anyone in true Christianity. BTW: I subscribed to Shade's channel. My wife and I watched the video of his you referred your channel followers to another recent video you posted. The sincerity and love of God in that brother is a true blessing! ✝
@faithonfireministries
@faithonfireministries Год назад
Thanks James. I do the same for all your videos. I really love what you do, all those controversial videos in particular recently that many are afraid to touch on, and you tackle those issues head on. I watch them all and always click that like button. God bless you!
@ianjackson2696
@ianjackson2696 Год назад
@@faithonfireministriesdo you not believe that someone can ascribe to the framework of Calvinism and be Christian?
@rjohnson615
@rjohnson615 Месяц назад
Well presented. I agree, but am surprised, because I never recognized that people like John MacArthur were misinterpreting Scripture. I saw a Justin video that addressed your accusations, given in a condemning way, and I don’t think severe condemnations, claiming that people are “wolves”, making them out to be evil. Please re-think how you present your truths, and make sure you speak “in love.”
@JLB34
@JLB34 Месяц назад
I keep telling you to please pray for all the Calvinists like John MacArthur out there because unless they repent from their sins they are going to hell. Just like Mormons and just like Jehovah's witness... It's so hard to reach sinners who think they are saved. But they have told themselves a lie so long they believe it. I pray GOD WILL GIVE THEM EYES TO SEE AND EARS TO HEAR THE REAL TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL.
@alonzomccloud4530
@alonzomccloud4530 6 месяцев назад
I thought you said let scripture interpret scripture "Sola scriptura " before we were saved by Christ we were evil, we also were fools. Oh, and one more thing you don't seem to identify that we were the same. You just took your person out of those categories. I'm not going to tell you yet what I see. If you follow Romans 3: to its logical conclusion. v.23. " For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Every man is a fool before Christ . e.g., Proverbs 10:18 " He that hideth hatred with lying lips, he that uttereth a slander, is a fool." I'd like to show another passage, Mark 7: 20: "...That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. v.. 21. For from within, out of the heart of men,, proceed evil Thoughts, adulteries, fornication, murders, v.22. Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: v.23. All these evil things come from within, and defile the man." And this is in all mankind. The word. " men" comes from the word " anthropos " where we get are word. "anthropology ." The study of mankind. So, Jesus said all these things are in the hearts of all mankind. Total depravity compare that with the word "sinful" There's Jeremiah 13:23 saying we can't change ourselves, why , because our hearts are. "...deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it." Jeremiah 17:9 Also Isaiah 64:6 ; " But we are all as unclean things, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind have taken us away." There is nothing in us that is good. Therefore we are sinful, total depravity.
@JamesEwen-u9h
@JamesEwen-u9h 3 месяца назад
Quick question in verse one the text states it is speaking of fools, then in verse 2 it is speaking about the sons of men, would that not change who David is speaking of?
@Gary-nl2rd
@Gary-nl2rd Месяц назад
NOT A FAN OF MACARTHUR, I saw an interview with MacArthur and some "well known prosperity preachers ". He said of the men of whom he "exposes", "if I didn't hang out with them, I would have no friends " hypocrite
@jamesjustice859
@jamesjustice859 9 месяцев назад
Brian, you said towards the end that you were going to do future videos on Ecclesiastes or Ephesians 1 I forget. You mentioned it in this video and I looked and could not find anything with that. Can you direct me to the videos?
@aservant2287
@aservant2287 5 месяцев назад
Matthew 7:11 Jesus says, if you being evil know how to give good gifts to those who you love how much more will the heavenly Father give good gifts to those who ask? This says that the evil people can do good debunking the whole total depravity theory.
@Mr40tt
@Mr40tt Год назад
I agree with you 100 %. You have been set apart special to expose false teachers.
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