Camaro Gets Front Suspension and Steering 

Hey guys, sorry about the audio from 14:45 to 16:50. We've put subtitles in English so feel free to turn the CC!

Sorry about the music at 14:40 guys I totally messed that up. I'm working on subtitles right now.

Edwin: How loud do you want the music? Ethan: *Yes*

Y'all need to chill with the "music mistake", it's just a small editing mistake, not end of the world.

I feel like this build needs dual exhaust after seeing two exhaust ports

14:45 when your wife starts talking to you and the acid kicks in at the same time.

Around 15 minutes the music never fades into the background.

As others have commented, you had the Ackermann geometry correct first time round. Your bellcrank on the bottom of the steering column will also add Ackermann angle. Right now I suspect you’ve gone back to near zero, the negative Ackermann being cancelled out by the positive from the bell crank. I thought I’d mention it now before you get too deep into it! Top work though, very nice fabrication! (Edit- someone down below has also pointed out that drift cars have their Ackermann reduced, because obviously on opposite lock it’s a handicap, so it might be just great as you have it right now!) I spent days and days on steering geometry on my soapbox car. I had the arms in front of the axle for legroom, and the large KPI I had to use to get the steering axis in the centre of the tyre (I wanted zero scrub radius because of the brakes) cancelled much of it out as the arms moved through their arc. I had to put a backwards bellcrank (because it’s in front of the axle) on the column to get it right again, so on my car the track rods cross over each other.

He who dies with the coolest toys wins.

I can't wait to see this finished! I love the build process, though. It makes me feel like I'm building it too

music through the whole thing, need to rethink that, maybe dial it down on parts and crank back up for montage

I don't think anybody knows how much work goes into building these

I love how your building the frame! This build is gonna be so cool when its finished!

The place you guys live is just wonderful, I dream living somewhere like that.

It's been very rewarding watching the newer vids with all the current setups and then going back and watching how they were built. So cool.

you had the ackerman steering right the first time. that's how my race kart is

I love watching you guys learn from your mistakes and flaws on previous builds to make this one the best yet! Keep up the great work guys!

music definitely was meant to fade and play softly in the background. editing mistake. chill peeps.

Steering is always a beast to deal with built a Baja my senior year. A ton of fun also a ton of work. You have my respect.

I dont care about the audio dude's, the metal fabrication is an absolute work of Art , thank u Ethan , ur work blows my mind !!!

Thanks for keeping me entertained guys! Don't sweat the music, you're usually spot on with it. I'm a little disappointed with the front suspension not having dual arms, but it's still looking sweet!

Whoops! Gotta fix that music. Haha everybody make mistakes, that's okay. Keep it up guys!

Coming to these videos is always the motivation I need to start my projects again, the channel has got something I just can't put on most other similar channels. You guys still seem to enjoy what you're doing, and don't treat it so much as a job which is wicked. Work hard and play harder is totally integrated in the channel, and it's always fun to come back for a new build, or maybe skip to a rip scene.

The music was too much. I would prefer to hear him speak😁

Love the "get it in town" mentality, can't wait to move back up there. Love the Sandpoint/Bonner's area.. so gorgeous.

Really liked how you played music over him talking about steering. That was a long time coming. Well done!

I love that front control arm looks like a 1 peice up and lower all in one cant wait to see how it works

Awesome content as usual! I've really grown to love watching your projects and it's very clear to see the progression in your skillset and understanding of what you're doing. Keep it up!

The level of fabrication and metal work that goes into these builds is on another level and the quality of work done is top level. This dude has some serious skills. Proper job ;)

This is becoming one of my favorite channels, except for the fact that your videos always make me wish I was young again. You both are awesome, thanks.

You guys are just living the dream, middle of the woods, all alone, by urself, just doing and building whatever you want, its amazing, im soooo jealous

This channel has EXPLODED! Great fucking job, guys! Y’all rock! Keep it up with these absolutely insane builds and the beautiful fab skills! I’m currently working on a FAR easier project, I’m currently swapping a bandit 1200 engine into my 02 Katana. I don’t need these fab skills and there are several forum posts going through the entire process of what needs to be done to make it work. You are just on another level, keep it up! Btw, none of us would complain if you guys expanded your workspace! It wouldn’t take a thing from your channel and who you are as far as I’m concerned at least

You guys make the best videos. And the coolest thing is your doing it out of an old barn in the middle of the woods in northern Idaho

Your A arm design is brilliant! Simple, yet 100% tunable for what ever ride hight you want, and should be stout enough to take a good deal of punishment👍🏼

You guys genieous. I hope one day I can build to the quality that you guys do. Live all the builds. All the support.

Yes yes yes on that Camaro!!! Way to go guys! And no sweat in the music! Was actually fun to imagine you being tired of all his talk and just like ”gonna wear headphones”

There’s a lot of man hrs that goes into your builds in your garage. Good stuff 👍🏼

12:05 I will never get tired of this song. It’s so damn good.

Holy cow guys, this video was amazing. I fear I may have enjoyed it... A little too much. The suspension is absolutely beautiful.

I dont know why but I'm so excited to see you do the cooling setup on this one threw the frame

I only just realized your guys videos are as long or longer than tv shows, shits legit. Keep it up

If there ever was a channel that deserved a million subs, it’s this one. You guys are awesome, keep up the great work!

Love your vids. We are working on a Go Kart / Motorcycle engine swap project now, you guys inspire us!

One of the very few RU-vidr channels in the world that gives out true information they can actually help somebody and you play music through when he's talking

Ethan is genius when it comes to fabrication the way he came up the front suspension is awesome. I commend you both for the work you guys are doing. Showing so much detail that goes into a build like this. It's just mind blowing. Maybe the next will be a Mercedes Benz, LOL just an idea. Keep it going guys. Faithful subscriber from Southeast Missouri.

Only channel on RU-vid I have notifications on and watch as soon as I see them can't wait to see this thing drift some dirt roads

Love your videos my dudes keep up the amazing work!!! So glad I found y’all page!!

Your inboard A arm mount locations can be upside down mirrored and used to make the A arm for the other side. Then the right A arm can be located where it belongs. Just offering an option from a shop that exists in a different time and space when snowmobiles were different, much different.

Any fabricator can understand what he’s saying under the music. No big deal. Your vids getting me back into fabing cool builds. Thanks for the motovation

Great video, don’t trip about the music mistake, at least it was bumpin! You guys are killing the content. ❤️

That frame is pretty. The curves are very rock bouncer-esque.

Started watching you guys again last week, started originally watching back before the Jeep. Then remembering why I stopped cause it makes me want to grind hard in my field and shop. But at college studying drafting. So if you need some real CAD hit me up.😉

As a frontend alignment Tech with OCD that upside down, crooked steering wheel was driving me crazy Lol. Can't wait to see this thing ripping it up!

So let's just get the front suspension to the point where we could put the tires on and air it up and down but then just don't. The suspense from the suspension video will be awesome. Awesome job guys. I want this thing.

The ackerman is wrong... I love the built, you stepped up quality level a lot.

You literally have the best product sponsors that I would actually consider buying😎👌

Glad to see you’re graduating out of mobile game ads- god those were annoying!

Ethan, the engineering and fabrication of this new build looks absolutely brilliant! The frame and suspension/steering on their own have great lines and curves, and could be run body off, and look amazing doing it! Keep doing what you do, dudes! Cheers! (*around 14:51, the music became loud enough to drown out Ethan speaking. I turned on the subtitles.)

For your air suspension you should cap off a section of frame (cosmetic not structural) and use it as a small pressure tank. Should hold enough pressure.

You had it right the first time, you Ackerman is all funky now. With the arm BEHIND the spindle, you need to draw a line to the center of the rear axle.

Man... Ethan your fabrication skills never cease to amaze me.

This build is awesome, great job!! You guys should build a big garage to put your shop in! That would be something I would like to see.

I really like that Jaguar and the porsche. I would love to see those done up nice and clean one day

This car is going to be awesome. Can't wait to see what she can do

That is "Swiss Watch" precision, to get all this together and run right and track right and steer/handle correctly. Wow. Not for the faint of heart. You are a true master, Ethan. Foot board(s). Yes! We all know damn well it is going to have paddle controls! I ordered the KOVE. Hope that counts as "sponsoring". :-)

Man I really wish you could restore or even rebuild the driftstang, that car really kickstarted the channel. I think it deserves it

I get so pumped every time I see you guys posted a new video that I’ve started giving a thumbs up as soon as I click on the thumbnail.

Looks good, can't wait to see what you do with the front of the Honda!

You guys need to button up one of these builds all pretty and take it to SEMA! Love the videos!

I feel with how little suspension travel there is even all the way aired up, it’s just gonna bounce around unless on a road or flat surface

Amazing job on the steering suspension, anyone can watch this and know how to build a custom steering suspension for any vehicle. The music at about the 20 minute mark is loud, can hardly hear the explanations. Outstanding video and outstanding information, Thank you.

Been watching u guys from day one pretty much. I love this stuff and can't wait to see this build done. U guys rock. Scot from Ontario canada

Awesome job my dudes. It would be really cool to see you do a 4x4 cart build. Hope to see something along those lines in the future.

Ok y'all might have said this before but what is y'all's trades? The skills you both have is impeccable!!!!

Formula 1 level engineering and build quality into a power wheels go kart lol...great work!

I know I’m just another person commenting about the work you guys do but I really appreciate the content you guys put out I know it takes a lot of work with the filming timing and editing and throwing some sound in the background The Barbie kart is what brought me here btw

I'm Brazilian but i watch your videos very top 💯

Next build, in the spirit of the winter season thats coming. I think a power wheels whatever it may be should have skis and a track.

I absolutely love watching you guys. I look forward to each video.

This is for on the bolts if you machine a chamfer on to the bolt you will get more angel out of your rod ends and it won’t bind

Looks like you have been doing your homework!! Loving this build.. just saw a grave digger and tank powerwheel..

You guys are freaking awesome ive watched a bunch of yalls videos an you guys are insane i wish you guys had more content to bing on

This is so cool. I want to do this as a hobby when i grow up. It is my dream. Love u guys

You guys are awesome love the builds and looking like that Camaro is going to be a little ripper for drifting

The steering shaft pivot being so far behind the spindles is going to be a problem. Yes Ackerman from the steering axis pivot through the tie rod pivot to the center point of the rear axle. But that's only if your steering pivots are right, whick they aren't at all. I would run a short tie rod from the steering shaft, forward under the engine to a bellcrank paralell to the bottom of the frame, that has the two point for the steering rods. The way it's set up now it's going to over center at full lock with any decent amount of angle.

I think this will be your best power wheels to date, and building in GHPC engineering revisions into future builds can only be cool ,nothing else, just cool, and the old belt drive lathe, cool again and they are reliable, you can get belts anywhere for them, great video, the next few will be epic, ROAD TEST!!! 🚘

lol who cares about the music still love all the builds an the effort put in !!!! been here since the first 50k subs an i'm proud to say that !!!

It's coming along nicely! Just an observation guys, not sure if you had plans on cutting the steering column down in length / height but you don't want that thing pinning you in the chest should you ever wreck.

Having a whole fleet of these are gonna be sick!

Can't wait to see what it looks like whene it finish

Can’t wait 😊 to see the final touches the bumblebee is gonna be sick 🔥💯🤘🏽

Idk where you get the music for your videos but wow...... it is sooo good! I would love a play list of that for sure!

GHP posts, I click the notification.

Music gets way to loud through the steering tirade You guys are still my heros I've watch all of both other karts and I can't wait to see this one finished

Wondering if adding a steering damper shock would help smooth out the steering even more while traveling over rough terrain or bumpy roads. Something similar to what is installed on various motorcycles.

11:01 thank you for addressing Ackerman angle! There are so many "clowns" on RU-vid that claim to be fabricators but yet build steering geometry with no KPI or Ackerman. And usually have about 6" of scrub radius. Keep on keeping on guys it's nice to see talent and a good understanding of what fabrication is all about!

Interesting, educational, and entertaining. really enjoy the videos guys keep up the great work

Every time I watch you guys build I'm just Amazed on what you do. Though half way threw this video the music was a bit to load, could not clearly understand what was being discribed. But still an awesome video. Diggin the build.

The thing about Ackermann steering is, you got it right the first time. But because the steering shaft is angled back so much, any motion to the left or right in the rear steering shaft pivot is going to result in a lot more motion at the front steering shaft pivot, increasing as the angle between the rear steering shaft pivot and the front spindle increases, measured on the front steering shaft pivot, and decreasing as the angle decreases. Had you turned the wheel enough with the first design you might've locked up the steering as a tiny tweak to the right could have lined up the two steering shaft pivots with the spindle pivot. Before the remake on the steering I was going to comment that you probably wont need any extra offset on the steering mount in order to get Ackermann (with that setup it would give Ackermann steering with no angle on the steering bracket). Could be useful to layout this stuff in software or on scrap wood if you want an approximation. With a steering rack mounted so it lines up precisely with the outer steering pivots you'd angle the brackets inward as shown with your first design to get more Ackermann correct steering. TLDR: You'd get Ackermann steering no matter what, but normally the first design is what gives Ackermann steering with a normal setup.

Love all your builds and I really appreciate the fact that you guys prefer to make/fabricate your parts as needed instead of waiting on GO POWERSPORTS to make and supply 90% of your builds!!! So glad you guys aren’t simply throwing money at “off the shelf” parts.