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Camcorder comparison - Panasonic NV-GS400 vs HC-X900M 

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This is a side-by-side comparison of the recording quality of the NV-GS400 (PAL version of the PV-GS400) and the HC-X900M.
If you've got an NV-GS400 or PV-GS400 and you're considering an upgrade to one of their newer, HD models, check this out and see what you think.
My opinion? The NV-GS400 was a good camera (it blew my old Sharp VL-PD1H out of the water). This time the HC-X900M blows the NV-GS400 out of the water. Only in the very, very darkest scenes can the NV-GS400 outperform it, but only just.

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@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
That's correct. It's a side-by-side comparison between what was once a £1000 SD 3CCD camcorder and what is now a £900 HD 3MOS camcorder. Those with a "prosumer" SD camcorder can judge for themselves whether they want to step forward into the world of prosumer HD or stick with what they've got.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
You're exactly the sort of person I did the comparison for, someone who's got a very nice prosumer SD camcorder and is thinking about the leap to HD. The best way to view the test would be on a full-HD TV or monitor. The HC-X900M footage is scaled 50% horizontally (a 2x2 pixel block becomes 1x2), the NV-GS400 footage is cropped to 540 high then scaled 200% vertically and 133% horizontally (a 3x2 pixel block becomes 4x4) to keep any rescaling fuzziness to a minimum.
@sergeantcrow
@sergeantcrow 7 лет назад
Good test.. Thank you.. You just stopped me bidding on the older one as the newer is definitely much better.. But I can appreciate that some people may just love and prefer that older footage..
@syncmaster710n14
@syncmaster710n14 12 лет назад
If anything i think the one on the left has more vivid colour but the right one handles the light conditions better, and is clearer.
@windoes98se
@windoes98se 12 лет назад
the color on the older camra seems more dynamic during the day
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
Sony Vegas Pro 9. As I don't need the 50p frame rate for a 25p RU-vid vid I switch off resampling when I bring in HC-X900M media, this makes it drop every other frame instead of trying to merge each pair. The NV-GS400 is set to 720x576 25p anyway (except in low-light mode where it disables autofocus and switches to 50i).
@kevtris
@kevtris 12 лет назад
If you cross your eyes and merge the two images into one, you can see everything in 3D since the cameras are providing two slightly separate views of the same scene. This is a pretty cool effect!
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
Thanks! One of my work colleagues has just ordered the HC-V700, need to coax him to let me do some side-by-side comparisons now.
@jakoblundblad134
@jakoblundblad134 Год назад
Hey, found this video very helpful. Even today, ten years later.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 11 лет назад
I bought the NV-GS400 direct from Panasonic when it was launched, then a few years later spotted the HDC-TM900 and its siblings but waited until the HC-X900M was released. They've brought out the HC-X920 now which adds wifi streaming capability.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
The HC-X900M isn't being shown to the best of its capabilities as the horizontal resolution's been halved to fit it on the screen for side-by-side testing. Take a look at the road markings at the 1:32 mark, the difference is fairly pronounced there, especially when viewed in full-screen HD.
@quentinbush
@quentinbush 2 года назад
Just found your camera comparison some many years later, very good but mine (GS-400) doesn't have the colour difference that you demonstrate. This is something which can be changed within the menu settings. What mine has developed is card error which I am unable to rectify even after formatting. I am using a 16Gb Kingston SD card.
@justinlynn
@justinlynn 8 лет назад
This makes an interesting impromptu stereo camera setup. I crossed my eyes to merge the footage and got an interesting 3D-ish effect. Nice!
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 8 лет назад
+Justin “J” Lynn You're not the first one to try that :)
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
The NV-GS400 (the old one, on the left) is 3CCD. The HC-X900M is 3MOS.
@Andrew_Sparrow
@Andrew_Sparrow 12 лет назад
I just read this comment while the advert was playing (I don't skip so hopefully you get some $) and ended up watching the whole vid x-eyed for the 3D :D will have to watch again for the comparison ;)
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 9 лет назад
UPDATE: the quarter second gap between video segments on long recordings can be eliminated by joining the MTS files together using tsMuxeR. Info courtesy of www.avforums.com/threads/best-way-to-join-merge-mts-files.1577038/
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 10 лет назад
@silkynitro your privacy settings won't let anyone reply to your comments. I've just tested my NV-GS400, it seems that Bass Enhance is not available if your camera is in Pro Cinema mode.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
I haven't tried that yet. I wasn't going to as the lenses are different (you've got to zoom the HC-X900 in slightly to get the same field of view), but I might have a go later :)
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
I did tweak the colour balance, but when switched back to auto this is what you get. Under low light though, the one on the right seems to be a bit more colourful.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
The lenses are slightly different so it's tricky to do with these cameras. The effect would be much better with a VW-CLT2 3D converter lens (which the HC-X900M takes) or with a second HC-X camera, either a HC-X800, 900 or 900M.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
They can suffer from wobble, I think it's sometimes referred to as "jello-cam", due to the way the image is read off the chip. I've not noticed any (and the cameras did bounce about a bit when I took off in the car) but it's noticeable on some vids where people have sent CMOS cameras up on RC planes, hexacopters and such like. The 300 will be similar I expect to my 400 (apparently the best of the NV-GS ones, the 500 was worse from what I've read).
@blogsterification
@blogsterification 12 лет назад
the right hand side is best for me.good experiment
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
The driving bit works well :) Some of the other bits aren't so eye-friendly though. At least they're on the correct side (the HC-X900M - which your left eye will look at if you go cross-eyed - was on the left hand side of the tripod).
@Hixxyclips
@Hixxyclips 12 лет назад
I was joking lol, the picture looks pretty good. Is it a 3ccd cam?
@silkynitro
@silkynitro 10 лет назад
How do you change the base enhance on NV-GS400 I can find base enhance however it won't let me change the db levels Do I have to put the camera in a different setting. All I'm getting is Base enhance - - -
@OrlandoQuinn
@OrlandoQuinn 12 лет назад
I linked here planning to be disappointed, but was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to be a very well done camera test. Great work!
@petragorgi1766
@petragorgi1766 11 лет назад
awesome job, Thank you... Now I bought a Panasonic Full-HD,HC X-900M...and have a Mac do you have any experience how to download the movie files on that?
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 11 лет назад
I think you've got to copy the whole BDMV folder structure, rather than just the video files. I've never done it myself but I seem to remember reading about that somewhere. Google should come up with the goods.
@superdau
@superdau 12 лет назад
Wow, the colors are so much more natural in the HC-X900M. This alone almost would have been worth an upgrade.
@rafadydkiemmacha7543
@rafadydkiemmacha7543 8 лет назад
I used to have a crush on NV-GS400, but couldn't afford it. Now my iPhone records much better videos.
@Trancelistic
@Trancelistic 10 лет назад
nice video. I go atm the hc-v510. I love it.
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 12 лет назад
Nice video. interesting differences between the camera's
@Tommy05102011
@Tommy05102011 11 лет назад
NvGs400! Great camcorder! Thx-upload!! =)
@zalias77
@zalias77 11 лет назад
Thank you, very good test.
@CableWrestler
@CableWrestler 12 лет назад
@Da9el, you're absolutely right!!
@graemeyetts3465
@graemeyetts3465 4 месяца назад
The newer HC is all over the NV model. Far more natural colours and better light use, especially at twilight. Tech and values moved fast
@ZeventhinRadioFM
@ZeventhinRadioFM 10 лет назад
URGENTE !!! disculpe Señor Clever yo compre el mismo modelo de videocámara X900M y no se ve igual de bonito como su vídeo cinemático, mis vídeos se ven muy caseros muy cristalinos, ¿que puedo hacer?
@cybermees
@cybermees 10 лет назад
hello, I do not have a video camera, but it can be should look codecs and compression level! post-treatment? cristallinos? you mean what? macroblocks? Write in English if you want answers please, to be understood by all (I'm french) -- you can watch this :: www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug10/articles/video-compression.htm -- bests regards
@ZeventhinRadioFM
@ZeventhinRadioFM 10 лет назад
thank you!
@icanhearyoufull
@icanhearyoufull 11 лет назад
Great test! So in should be!!!!!
@HermiTravel
@HermiTravel 11 лет назад
Nice work, thank´s a lot!
@Da9eI
@Da9eI 12 лет назад
Nice comparison! If you know how to watch "cross-eyed 3D" you can actually watch most of this video in 3D!
@portnoy256
@portnoy256 12 лет назад
Hi, I have just buy the X800 (same recording quality of X900) to record live music concerts where there are so called "fuck'in volume!": this camera can fix recording audio volume at -30db (max) with great playback audio quality.
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
Certainly does :) If you look at the background image on my channel you'll see another Johnny Five view :)
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 12 лет назад
It wouldn't surprise me. Look at the background image on my channel (right-click and view it if you can) and judge for yourself whether that looks like a camcorder rig or a speed trap? :)
@estebanigarzabal
@estebanigarzabal 8 месяцев назад
I miss my nv gs400
@AintBigAintClever
@AintBigAintClever 8 месяцев назад
I still use mine to record footage from my thermal camera, using the AV I/O port as an input.
@blogsterification
@blogsterification 12 лет назад
yeah speed cop.start doing on the spot fines :)
@signorRobinzon
@signorRobinzon 9 месяцев назад
Тут всё понятно, HC 💪
@TheLoneWoodman
@TheLoneWoodman 11 лет назад
You waited quite a while to upgrade, chap.
@akceoglu8545
@akceoglu8545 3 месяца назад
İlk Çıktığı yıllarda kullanma şansım olmuştu , muhtemelen özelliklerini ayarlayamadınız NV-GS400 Bu kadar kötü bir kamera değildi
@HeartOfGermany
@HeartOfGermany 12 лет назад
Sorry, this Day, I wrote the comment, i accidantally changed the sides from left to right with my Headphones. :D
@blogsterification
@blogsterification 12 лет назад
i bet you slowed the traffic down a bit.you must have looked like an unmarked traffic cop :)
@HeartOfGermany
@HeartOfGermany 12 лет назад
Shit, that hurts on Headphones. The right one sounds not as good as the left channel.
@Hixxyclips
@Hixxyclips 12 лет назад
I can't tell the difference.
@tovarishPasportist
@tovarishPasportist 12 лет назад
все по встречке ездят :-)
@ripcurl010
@ripcurl010 12 лет назад
looks like johny five
@vadtaf2156
@vadtaf2156 2 года назад
2021💀
@noverdeamarillo
@noverdeamarillo Год назад
2023 🤣
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