Camille Q is Messed Up 

Thanks for all the positive comments guys! I didn't expect this to blow up as much as it has, but it's lovely to see that people like this content. EDIT: For everyone asking how I put the items on the dummy, there's a new feature in practice tool that allows you to copy your inventory to a target dummy. You can also give yourself or the dummy status effects and spell shields.

its so odd that plated steelcaps reduces TRUE damage

The most digestable description of an ability ive seen

So, Camille’s Q has quantum mechanics, simultaneous properties of an attack and an ability.

Warden's mail used to actually reduce both damage instances from Camilla Q, until shortly before Zeri's release where Warden's was changed to only trigger on the first instance of damage from a single spell cast. The maximum of 40% reduction applies to this first instance and _luckily_ for the Warden's user that is Camille Q's true damage portion, not the physical one that goes down to a 0 damage instance at level 18. One more note on Spellblade - the interaction here is not Riot playing favorites, it's historical: Spellblade used to *add* an amount equal to X% AD directly to the damage event's value in the on-hit phase of the damage event. Camille's damage conversion happens after that, and so do other effects like Corki passive or Gangplank E checking how much damage it was last it for from Gangplanks attack/Q. In 9.14 Sheen was changed to a separate damage instance (probably for the updated death recap to be able to list it as "item" damage), which broke all of these interactions. The fix was a bunch of special casing, which is also why i.e. Camille Q and Corki passive convert *100%* of the Sheen damage to true/magic damage instead of the respective fractions they "should" convert. Steelcaps and the damage conversion from Camille Q happen in the same phase in the damage event. Because of that, the actual order of operation actually depends on the order in which the two buffs managing those effects have in the array of buffs on the target (Camille Q puts the buff for the damage conversion on the target the attack is hitting, might sound unintuitive but it makes sense for the event). Up until about a year ago, this order of events was not consistent, until a few friends and I collaborated with a Rioter in getting that to be consistent. Great video, the way you interacted with the current information on the wiki has given me some clues on what to focus on when I document the updated damage system properly across the pages.

I was the sun before it was cool is such a kickass soundtrack choice

This is an amazing vid 😂 glad it popped up on my recommended list hope to watch more of your vids

editing is very intertaining imo. i did it for fun last summer and learned way more than i expected. and yeah Live dummy reaction. respect for the details

wait someone else remembers deep league?? what a throwbackkk

This is so consise yet, in depth, pls make more, you deserve more followers ❤

I love these types if videos that break down concepts and hard to digest info into easy spreadsheets and videos dives. Cheers and I hope you get the recognition for the work on your 2 recent videos

Editing is so taken for granted these days. Good job man, love the videos

Really like your videos and ability breakdown. Happily subbed. Keep up the good content!

there's nothing weird about life steal working on her Q as her Q is obviously counted as ability and basic attack at the same time and she's far from the only champ that has that kind of ability. Just for an example, Q abilities of Ezreal, Yasuo, Yone, Nasus, Yorick... count as basic attacks, all of those abilities apply on-hit effects, can critically strike (unless specifically stated that the ability can't crit) and can life steal, that's a common LoL knowledge.

Damn this video is so good for a 60 subs channel. Keep it up bro

1.2k true damage is nice but having to farm 9933 gold on a champion with only 2 abilitys in her laning is not worth

I love you hylofear thanks for the infographic of Camille I have been trying stuff like this myself but too lazy to do so great job for the cool vid

Tbh you should really become a info type league calculation youtuber, i would watch every single video, keep up, subbed 💵💵🙈🙈 btw im your 100th sub :3

awesome video, love those math takes on lol would love to see more ^^

Thank you. I’m going to try your Camille build on yorick. They removed the lifesteal from summons interaction but I suspect the combination of a sheen item, shojin, and lifesteal from ravenous could still result in some unreal healing now that yorick also has missing health healing in his kit.

Great music choice and great explanation

Very good video quality. This channel will probably be growing soon if more videos like this are made.

I hear the starbound OST, you cant hide it from me.

The closing comment about sleep really resonated with me.

Interesting video, if you keep doing this kind of content I'll sub for sure

this video made me realize that we actually have good use for insanely in depth analyses of leagues systems. Sadly the work required per video would probably not make it worth in todays youtube climate

Rito and their spaghetti code out here making all of us second guess spaghetti.

I've just found your channel and i'm a league veteran since s1. I've pretty much had the same reasoning to merc boots and knew of sheen spaghetti code on other champions, but this is quality stuff. New sub for you

I really like those documentary league videos bro good content

we making it our of season 14 with this one 🔥🔥

This reminds me of Poppys q before the rework. I used to main her years ago and her q applied sheen just like Camille's except instead of turning it into true damage it turned it into magic damage, but it could also crit, which meant the optimal build path for a oneshot build would be triforce(which gave crit at the time) into infinity edge into void staff.

Ahh hell nah why is your video so well edited

"Editing more than researching" ain't that the truth

A League RU-vid video that doesn't pad the content with unrelated gameplay footage and no clickbait too? What is this 2012?

New sub, keep it with the great content.

This is top-tier content my guy

Pre-rework poppy used to be convert Sheen/Triforce damage to magic damage, it's part of why triforce was core on her.

I hope riot sees this and changes the bug with wardens mail, Thanks for your indepth analysis about my most hated matchup camille.

Is that novakids theme from Starbound? A true gigachad

great video

novakids theme is a pleasant surprise

i thought i heard that starbound theme, good taste

Great vid

Nice video king

Legend tells he is still sleeping to this day...

key take aways from this video, 1. ninja tabi's work vs camile and it reduces he true dmg so build them ,2. shojin increases her true dmg by 12% so build it when u play camile .

I would love a video about making camille Q do as much dmg as possible and calling it "Pushing camille q to its theoretical limit"

good video, i liked it

it's starbound ost 😢 feels good asf

yoo nice vid! keep it up

Can u pls pls tell me hoe u put items on the dummys in trxion? Great vid, i feel the editing part very much

Great video, liked it a lot! Speaking of Shojin working on Camille Q despite being an auto, that stuff is a whole chapter on its own. A lot of empowered auto attacks deal ability damage (just like Camille here), yet Shojin is still inconsistent with it: Khazix Passive and Kennen W (passive part) work, Akali passive doesnt. Chogath E works, Shen Q doesnt. I've not tested all listed on the league wiki, but if their list is accurate, that already gives at least 2 exceptions/bugs, if not more. Would love to see you go in-depth on that, if you feel like it.

good content

as a Camille main I am now playing Fiora, like same build but Fiora feels so MUCH easier during the laning phase

banger video man

Editing takes time, ye. Congratz on the research and video

Came for the video, stayed for the starbound OST. Best thing to come out of that game.

Is Ravenous always better or just in case you want max Q2 True damage? I thought Titanic and its auto-reset were better for overall DPS but unless I misunderstood the tip at the end you seem to imply Ravenous always leads to more damage in every situation.

Does Camille q2 do %max health true dmg with bork or it doesnt apply since its a spell (kinda), if im not mistaken ezreal q applies it.

More subs to you my man

how does sundered sky work here

good work

Nice video 👍

nice video

And if we are talking about stupide Auto amp spells, lets not forget Darius' W. Back when steraks/trinity gave you bonus base AD you could get a 1200k auto on a carry without problem (if youd ever reach him) while building tank after these two items

steelcaps reducing the already shit damage on tf's W gives me crippling depression

There's a reason this video is blowing up -- super informative and sharp editing. Keep it up man!

How does Anathema's interact with Camille Q?

wait, how did you put items on a dummy?

now go new hydra on 2nd item and see the auto attack bursts

What happened to deep?? Does anyone know

delicious video

don't let riot see this

Wow amazing content , UP UP

Does alistra damage reduction reduces true damage? If not, plated stell caps shouldn't reduce camille true damage

wow good video

bro camille's theme was gonna come to the best part before u ended the video 😭

Very well made for a small fanbase containing youtube channel. I envision you in a great place in the future, making tens and thousands if you keep this up. Next video suggestion : Akali. Her kit is very buggy. Maybe you could talk about how her passive is coded since it's a very weirdly coded ability. Also, her E kinda.

what's the icon on the right at 3:11 ?

Cho R on Q. RAYOOOOOOOOT.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA???!?!?!?!?!? Lich bane applies lifesteal? WTF I never knew that.

how do you give a training dummy items?

If you wanna get into bugs in lol look at rengar that champ is just crazy when it comes to bugs

I love this video,I used to play Camille,it got boring as hell just winning for free😂

riot should nerf garen, he has camille Q as his ultimate, so broken man

Does sundered sky crit the true damage?

Fcking legend

It’s basically just a Chogat ult on your Q, and it’s so laughable easy for you to hit, as in there is no point in kiting Camille if you somehow manage that during her reactivation window, it’s just too long.

its so she can actually team fight without getting absolutely dogged on it makes sense considering the bs that other champs can do like yorick and darius or mord its balanced

rossboomsocks popularity went down along with deep league channel sadly

How did you give the dummy items in practice tool?

1:05 I hope thats a joke as riot aren't playing favourites by making her strong with sheen items she just doesn't have any other good synergy with most other items

Have some algorithm on me.

Ninja tabi/plated steelcaps used to be sooo bad, now they are just bad, because there are no proper tank items anymore :( Jaksho & force of nature I guess? Everything has HP, which used to be the weakest relative health stat in the game with the worst gold/stat. Now all tank items have horrendous gold/stat. So now every 'tank' champion goes full asssasin (Gallio AP, rammus AP, grag AP, maok AP, ornn AD/cdr, zac AP) and the champs that can actually use HP (Sion & zac) are actually super squishy, atleast they get dmg from HP.

Nice

And still I manged to go 0/11 w camille

Guys why have we passed 1k likes?

but like most of her power budget is in her q and she is fkin useless if it didnt apply her items onhits to the true dmg.

Meanwhile Renek's W doesn't work as a spell for Shojin, nor does it work as an auto for Sundered. Cool spaghetti Riot!

I mean not even steelcaps should reduce true damage.