This one is great plus it's one of the few true certified 2.1 hdmi (ultra high speed) cables. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S1CGQ9Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
You have solved a problem that I have had since upgrading to a 3070ti and a Samsung Q80. I was get screen blackouts, and it’s because my cable isn’t 2.1. From Florida, USA, thank you my friend.
Thank you for all your videos on HDMI 2.1 and associated features, they’re very informative. Are you aware of the 4K 120hz HDR issues many 2020 AV Receivers are having due to issues with a Panasonic chipset? Appears to affect Denon, Marantz and Yamaha. Worryingly, it doesn’t seem to be fixable via firmware update!
@@frdsg8350 a ton of new monitors have hdr support now. Granted it's mostly "fake" hdr with displayhdr 400 and 600 but still there are way more 1000 nit implementations than there used to be.
@@tresnugget My new Samsung g7 looks fucking great. Sure it's not Oled contrast but it's VS and has like 8 local dimming zones and it runs at 240 fucking frames per second at 1440p which makes it really fucking dope for gaming.
it already mattered for HDMI 2.0 the max cable length was reduced quite a bit and if you had a 5-7m long cable the quality was really important. for HDMI 1.4 10m or even more was usualy not an issue.
@@Deffine i have no experience with optical HDMI cables so can't tell for sure but if you ask me it seems too good to be true that those already exist at this time. it usualy take several months for HDMI repeater IC's to show up in products and this seems even more complicated.
I bought a 3 meter Cablexpert 2.1 cable for 10 euros and it had occasional blackouts and artifacts. I replaced it with a 40 euro Club3D certified 2.1 cable and it works flawlessly. Certified cables are very expensive in my country and there aren't many options.
If an AV professional has this many challenges getting the promised resolution to work, what chance does the average family have? I know these specs. aren't meant for anybody average.
Average consumers in general are capable of doing a google search or looking up a RU-vid video if they see flickering for example. They wouldn't just sit there and tolerate the flickering. They would call customer support or someone they know. Word of mouth travels everywhere especially on social media. Pople usually tend to have at least 1 tech savvy friend or relative in their lives that can guide them.
If you are in the US--Best Buy is already selling/stocking Audioquest "48" cables (hdmi 2.1) of varying qualities. Excited/nervous to try one once I get the new consoles.
I had flickering issues with a Ruipro active cable when connecting my RTX 3090 to my LG CX. Switch to a Zeskit cable and it has been flawless ever since!
I'm using a Monoprice 8k cable with my LG nano 90 with a 3080 FE. Got everything enabled and tested some games today - all good. Despite the hate of IPS panels, I'm so glad I went with the Nano. LG is really on top of it with all the new features of HDMI 2.1.
In the past I've had good experience with independently powered HDMI extenders for HDMI 2.0. They have allowed to me to use very long cables. Do we have such products for HDMI 2.1? And what about optical HDMI cables, could they solve these issues?
Thanks for Video! Can you please test this cable with LG oled C9. I have a problem with my LG oled C9 TV when it comes to HDMI 2.1 signal transmission. Without gsync, 4K 120 Hz runs somehow but the image quality is simply worse than 4K 60HZ and the image is stretched.
This is exactly whats happening with my new 3080 build. I'm using a Zeskit 2.1 cable. Those random colored flashes happen but not as often so I'm going to try another Zeskit cable and see if it goes away. I'm hoping it's just the cable.
Please test an X900H at 100 percent windows desktop 4K 120hz, many reports of blurry text using the 3080/3090. We would like to know if this is broken on Sony’s side or something else causing this issue, if scaled up it’s less evident.
@@rob2593 does that make sense since the 950H is in fact their flagship OLED of this year. I remember Vincent mentioning that the 900H has a better SOC, but many spec comparisons illustrate the 950H to have the more advanced chipset...heck, it's a more expensive TV.
Foamed FEP or twisted PTFE ribbon (mainly air contact) dielectrics are the best. Paired with a pure copper core ~0,4mm2 (21 AWG) conductors with thick, mirror finish silver plating. But these are quite expensive to manufacture and require thick cable diameter (to keep the correct nominal impedance). For long lengths optical types are preferred of course.
I've just read on Audioholics that there are incompatibility issues using sources and receivers with the panasonic hdmi 2.1 chip sets, can you please investigate vinnie?
A german tech magazine also confirmed this issue and claims, since the hdmi chips are faulty no software update can fix it...currently waiting for a reply from denon regarding their AVC-3700H i am planning to buy
@@TheChiefrebelangel I've not long bought a Marantz 7015 specifically for the hdmi 2.1 chipset...I do not want to have to send it to a service centre after setting everything up!
I realize this probably isn't the answer you're wanting, but my name is also Vinny and I have a work around for you. To get around a problem like this, you can plug your HDMI 2.1 device directly into your TV, and then use the SHARC eARC audio converter (by THENAUDIO) to output the audio from the TV (via the eARC port on the TV) into your receiver as a normal input (not eARC). Your receiver will treat the audio signal just like it would from any other device, displaying the proper format (Atmos, DTSX, etc). It will no longer be an "eARC" signal as far as the receiver is concerned, but will keep the proper audio format. This unfortunately limits the eARC port on your TV to function as just an audio output, but it has completely solved all of my problems. I use this with a Marantz SR7010 (no hdmi 2.1) and an LG C9 and it is an absolute must buy. I can pass Dolby Atmos and DTS X from my C9 to my SR7010 receiver and the receiver displays and decodes the signal properly!
@@VinnyCThatWhoIBe Vinny thanks for your reply, but let's be honest you shouldn't have to do that. I want everything going through the receiver, that is the selling point for these new receivers mainly. It should do what it says on the tin , everyone is waiting for the new consoles to drop. I appreciate your workaround, funny enough the 7010 was my last receiver!
@@MarcusMaximus909 well you're not wrong. However, based on my research, ARC and eARC can be rather flaky and this kind of takes the guesswork out of the equation. Granted your question wasn't specifically about ARC / eARC so I'll shut up now.
Would the Q80T also display 4k 120hz with HDR vrr enabled? This test seemed to debunk that the higher end T series samsung tv's are only able to display 4k at 60hz only. This misinformation is really frustrating, and your work is very appreciated Vincent.
I believe the 80T would work the same. I think the misinformation initially came from the first TV reviews that couldn't properly test any HDMI 2.1 features...that eventually got warped into, "Samsung TVs can only do VRR at 60hz".
@@3chrizzl Thanks. I just got back from a samsung rep who confirmed the flagship models can do 4k 120hz, but it's crazy in 2020 that you have to go on a goose chase just to find basic information that should be present on the product spec sheet. Especially when Samsung use bogus marketing terms on their Own Site instead of the proper info!?!
I will gonna buy this recommended 2.1 cable now for my ps5... when you say that is a real one then i dont need to search for anything other. This Video helped me alot finding the right cable :)
Was it 10 bit full RGB, limited RGB or 4:2:2 8 bit? It's very interesting to know the color space. It also would be nice to see some RAW photo images in the Lightroom or TIFFs in Photoshop to get an idea of what to expect for color accuracy .
Zeskit and Club 3D are two other brands that sell certified 48GBps 2.1 cables. Zeskit's are braided and Club 3D's are supposedly used by the VESA group themselves.
Zeskit cable was a miss for me. It kinda worked, but had quite a bit of flicker. I just got the Club3d's 10k/120 48gbps cable today and it wouldn't even do 1080p/60 without HEAVY flicker and picture drop every 2-3 seconds. Ugreen cable is working the best so far, but it will occasionally flicker and black frame a couple times an hour.
just because it's working in the desktop doesn't mean it'll stay working when you play a game you will get black flickering blinking if the cord doesn't support vrr and dynamic HDR it has to have a green stamp that has a QC scanner saying that it's for ultra speed high definition the tag is in green and you scan it with an app to prove it's authenticity
You’re likely seeing banding because the source texture / rendering pipeline for the pendulum or image in the case of the windows background is simply 8 bit, scaled to 10 bit.
Hey Vincent. Please explore MadVr and its wonders including per frame tone mapping on your new killer pc! (Will keep asking cause dying to hear from you about it!) :)
The higher end cables from Audioquest are only up to 3 meters. This is a very interesting topic though. Didn't realize there is a problem until I personally was affected. I needed min. 5m for my new setup and tested a few cables. In short, the Audioquest cable (Pearl 48 5m in my case) is one of the few solutions right now to get 4k@120Hz with HDR and VRR over 3m. There are some active cables with new chips coming, but very expensive right now (forget the optical cables listed on Amazon, they all have old chips with HDMI 2.0b compatibility only).
My LG OLED was having problems as well, but apparently it’s on LGs side that causes the display problems. They’ll have a software update in mid November to fix the issues. For now you need to turn off Gsync and hdmi deep color setting on the TV.
I've browsed HDMI cables at the tech superstore and it's impossible to tell which ones are up to the latest standard, because they all say "high-speed HDMI cable" and nothing more. No version, no transfer speeds, just "high-speed", which I remember is what they called them back when HDMI 1.2 was the latest standard.
the easier way is to simple delete all resolutions (from the edid) except for 4k@120hz with custom resolution utility. (some games do not allow you to select the correct refresh rate and default to 60hz in exclusive fullscreen, so with this trick you also get the full refreshrate, by simply being the only option)
Same thing happened to me when I clicked on his link. I'm in the US. I did a google search for "TrueHQ HDMI 2.1 cable" and it listed a link to the Amazon UK page here. www.amazon.co.uk/True-PREMIUM-Braided-Ethernet-Dynamic/dp/B082MRB893
So I managed to enable all of this for a RTX 2070 @ 60 Hz (info panel shows FreeSync VRR), but the Pendulum demo still tears (tried below and above 30 to below and above 60 FPS ranges). When viewing the info panel I occasionally will see the refresh rate dip, but there's visible tearing. Any ideas why? Also, your link for the cable no longer seems to work.
You did not turn on G-Sync correctly. There is a option in 3d settings > manage 3d settings and scroll down and select vertical sync to on or recommended is fast.
Get Vincent, i have two questions about price cuts. Is it usually in january month, when price cuts happens for 2020 models? Or can you make a video about when price cuts happens in 2021? Just for people who would like to be buying a TV but doesn't have the money just yet.
Different Question regarding my LG C9: Why doesn't Game Mode work when using Blutetooth for Audio Output? It switches back to Default display setting & Game Mode is greyed out in that szenario.
I found out it was in my case with RTX4090 connected to a Samsung TV that it was not the cable that was the problem, TV was set at not to us UHD signal by default, you had to activate that. Then I suddenly got option for 4k 60hz at full dynamic range without compressed signal in Windows... Also after I did that the power consumption on my RTX4090 went from 75w continuous always to 23w. Also FPS in games went up and now I can run graphics settings a lot higher and still keep steady 60fps.
Would be awesome a tutorial with a lg oled c9/x, when i put xpass or some game through pc i never know if its hdr, if its 8 or 10 bits, if color is rgb or ycbr, if earc its activated, if it has freesync... lot of troubleshootings to set up it right
I have this issue everytime. It does not stop flickering. Using jsaux 25ft. 10ft. And ge 6ft. Same issues. Please tell me what i did wrong .i reset my gpu 3d settings. Then put gsync from "let 3d app decide" to just "On" and it works. Jsaux 8k 10ft currently tested. Edit 2. It completely stopped working after about 2minutes.. ridiculous
@@johnwilson7680 yeah, some are not working on 48 gbit, some have problems with audio (as I understand it the signal is breaking when translated to eARC, but not in TV speakers, maybe TrueHD or 3 substream in EAC3 is broken).
I prefer to use the Display adaptor properties for display 1 under Advanced display settings to select my refresh rate and not the nvidia control panel
Hey Vincent, try out the Philips 436M6 monitor. It's a budget VESA HDR1000 VA monitor but apparently it has quite some quirks due to its firmware. I'd like to hear your take on it.
My Q90T has lack of shadow detail / crushed blacks with VRR on. Anything I can do about that? Also what happens next time you turn on the pc / tv? Or what happens in a few days? I've been through 4 HDMI cables in the last month (with another on the way) that support everything they should, and the signal "degrades"(well aware thats not what's actually happening) after a few days. This TV is a flickering mess and input signal plus constantly needs to be cycled for input 4. 3 Weeks ago Samsung told me to set the display to 60hz as a workaround, which isn't a viable fix. I didn't pay this much money for a 60hz display.
Perhaps you can do a video on playing HDR videos within Windows 10. At the moment the process seems to be extremely convoluted, with having to use Media Player Classic, LAV filters and MadVR etc. combined with conflicting reports of whether or not you need to enable HDR mode in windows settings for it to work. I have a couple of sample HDR mkv files and I've yet to manage to get them to display correctly on my Samsung NU8000. The whole pipeline seems very neglected to me. Honestly I'm not even sure how HDR is encoded in video files, the source material may be HDR10 / HDR10+ / Dolby Vision, that gets converted into a media file, then I suppose the media player has to map that to whatever the HDR spec Windows itself uses? I can't help but think the process will lose the meta data the original source material had ruin what the original had intended to be. Really the OS needs to be removed from the pipeline and the GPU driver needs to allow access to the meta data channel on the HDMI spec, whether that's currently possible I have no idea.
Do you think that the banding could be an after effect of the 2020 Samsung Q80/90T models using 8bit + FRC panels? As far as I am aware, only the Q800T/900TS are using native 10bit panels this year.
Vince! LG CX or a Q90T. im ordering one very very soon and i will order what you tell me to buy got a 3090, want to do mostly 4k60 10 bit hdr gaming but 120hz VRR HDR on some games. i use my pc alot. my guess is the q90t? thanks
Great video, thanks! I have a Q95T and a RTX 3080, it works great in 4K/120 but I did not know that the VRR would work with a Nvidia card on a TV that does not support GSync, nor at 4K/120. How does that even work? Great though, I got it to work after seeing this video.
Is there actually any difference between HDMI 2.0 cables and 2.1 cables ? I mean is the pinout different or anything else ? Or can a good quality HDMI 2.0 cable support HDMI 2.1 ? This is something that has been bothering me since HDMI 1.4 vs 2.0...
i reallly still dont undertand this about VRR,, if you have a samgsum with hdmi 2.1 and you have a nvidia 3080 you still can access to 4k 120 hz without gsync but instead VRR ? Thank you great channel and sence of humor best regards from colombia
I have samsung q70t and ps5.before i gone in service mode and i chenged any items and i forget it.please tell me how can i enable HDMI 2.1 in service mode?
My q70t can get 120hz 10bit 4k vrr HDR on a 5m 2.1 cable but after 10 minutes of gaming the screen goes black for a few seconds then comes back with different colour settings and stutters in game. Waiting for a 3m cable to see if this fixes it.
Several sources, including rtings, claim the q90t only supports VRR up to 60 Hz at 4K. Does this video mean they are wrong and the tv does actually support VRR up to 120 Hz at 4K (at least on HDMI Port 4)?
I have a 2070 super video card and my PS5 will be connected to the 2.1 slot on the q90t. Is there a need to get a 48GBS cable if my computer video card is not connecting to the 2.1 port? Man... we need a 2.1 box for more inputs!
I had issued with a lot of the HDMI 2.1 cables I bought on amazon. I decided to just take a chance, and bought an Audioquest Ocean HDMI 2.1 at best buy ... and you know what, it worked. All my flickering went away. I bought all kinds of "8k HDMI 2.1 cables" at amazon... and they all had issues at 4k 120hz no matter how many of the 2000 reviews said it was a good cable. www.bestbuy.com/site/audioquest-ocean-5-4k-8k-10k-48gbps-in-wall-hdmi-cable-blue-black/6428201.p?skuId=6428201 I used these. If you have issues and think its HDMI, this will either fix it or it will prove this isn't your issue. So i'm not saying you need audioquest, but a $60 cable fixed my issues and I know audioquest doesn't make a shitty cable.
