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Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! In today's 30-06 Week installment, we have a shoot-off and pit the best rifles in the bunch against each other. Who is the overall winner? Find out on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors 2 месяца назад
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@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 2 месяца назад
One optic I dont know much about.
@davepowell3293
@davepowell3293 2 месяца назад
I have a bolt ,lever and a pump would like to see the 7600 rem in action
@toddhall5565
@toddhall5565 2 месяца назад
I really like my Maven 2.5-10×39 compact. Right around 12.5" and I believe under 13 oz with a great view through the glass.
@boondogger
@boondogger 2 месяца назад
Carbine, not near as accurate as the 760
@brandiwynter
@brandiwynter Месяц назад
I don't own any Maven's but big thanks to them for helping make this video possible!
@stewarthoy7357
@stewarthoy7357 2 месяца назад
Ron, I don’t think that many rifles shoot that poorly. I also know you are a pretty decent marksman. I question those Maven scopes.
@SpudOutdoors
@SpudOutdoors Месяц назад
I have maven they shoot great. Japanese scopes. One he didn’t make sure thread protectors were tight. Also I have learned to put a level on my scopes. Reduce all variances in my shooting.
@kevinblair5708
@kevinblair5708 2 месяца назад
Ron, you have finally impressed me. You finally have a show exclusively for America’s cartridge 30.06! God bless you, my brother from another mother.
@kevinblair5708
@kevinblair5708 2 месяца назад
@@FranzAntonMesmer the finest cartridge ever made.
@tim7052
@tim7052 Месяц назад
Superb cartridge!! I've taken a LOT of game from around the world with mine - a Ruger M77 (tang safety). Wildebeeste, kudu, impala, warthog, camels, goats, 100-pt water buffalo - and even sharks - have all been taken efficiently with my rifle. It just goes to prove what Ron said: "It's hard to beat that .30/06!!" 🥰👍
@SNELLERIZED
@SNELLERIZED 2 месяца назад
Time to try some different scopes.
@medbill
@medbill 2 месяца назад
Browning BLR's are great! Are you sure its not a scope issue?
@JBASH2011
@JBASH2011 2 месяца назад
7 pound trigger. Barrel band. Lever action. Best groups. LMAO. And love it. Loved this whole week Ron. Thanks so much
@hakokiri3627
@hakokiri3627 2 месяца назад
And a take down rifle to boot!
@George-tz1cv
@George-tz1cv 2 месяца назад
I have 3 BLRs, (2 short actions and 1 300 WM long action,) and every one of them shoot great.
@theoriginalDAL357
@theoriginalDAL357 2 месяца назад
@@George-tz1cvOne MOA or better?
@NunchucksHabit
@NunchucksHabit 2 месяца назад
@@George-tz1cv I've been searching for one in 30-06 for a few months - tough to find the BLR Stainless '81 Takedown in Canada. No ETA, just "out of stock". I checked for other calibres too, no dice. I had no idea what the BLR would be like with even 30-06, so with a 300WM, that thing must buck like a bronco!
@davidhowe7844
@davidhowe7844 2 месяца назад
I've got one of the regular BLR 81 models (not takedown) in 325wsm and I've stacked shots in the same hole with it using 200gr barnes handloads. They're surprisingly great shooting guns
@jamiepezoulas4546
@jamiepezoulas4546 2 месяца назад
That was painful. I would love to see this re-done with a different scope.
@mikemelina7395
@mikemelina7395 2 месяца назад
All of the rifles you have there are more than capable of shooting MOA and you're cranking on the dials getting vast shifts in zero. It's the scopes, I guess it's better to say nothing than to say what I'm thinking. Great content though Ron, we appreciate you always.
@Del_licious
@Del_licious 2 месяца назад
Seemed like the groups got worse as the video progressed, so if they used the same scope on all of the rifles, that would make sense to me that it's an issue with the scope.
@michaelwilson9986
@michaelwilson9986 2 месяца назад
@@Del_licious There was more than 1 scope ,I believe 2 to 4.. Still a good bit of ware n tear on changing out,recentering,re-entering, zeroing..
@angelrojas0317
@angelrojas0317 2 месяца назад
Definitely the scopes No doubt
@jim99west46
@jim99west46 2 месяца назад
Maven internals for elevation and windage and also reticle stability are cheaply Made.I just watched a sako quest in 300 win mag shoot a .36 group with a,Steiner scope on it and sako ammo. Optics you get what you pay for. Maven is way down there. To use Talley rings with a good rifle and a junky scope is border line criminally ridiculous and Ron ought to know better.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ 2 месяца назад
@@jim99west46nothing wrong with talley rings. The scopes tho, ive never heard of maven so im betting theyre not that great.
@thomasdaniel6495
@thomasdaniel6495 2 месяца назад
You know,I don't really think this series has really shown how bad the rifles shoot,I think it shows more about the factory loadings being harder to shoot,or find one that does.I have been playing with 06 rifles for over forty years now,and always had an easy time of finding good handloads for them.The factories have a lot working against them to produce high quality ammo for the 06.I have never found a factory load to shoot like I want it to,some fairly acceptable,but never great.Good series,enjoyed it,keep up the good work. P.S.,I feel like everyone of these rifles are good shooters,and with just a little experimenting you could easily find a good load for them,in whatever weight,with handloads.
@galenhisler396
@galenhisler396 2 месяца назад
It's time for the 270 win. 🤠
@andrewcleveland
@andrewcleveland Месяц назад
I love the 30/06, but the 270 win has always been the perfect whitetail cartridge to me.
@topfeedcoco
@topfeedcoco 2 месяца назад
Instant thumbs up for the Ron's 30-06 Can-Can 😘
@bew5634
@bew5634 2 месяца назад
One thing Ron should keep in mind is his grip on the guns. Seems like some groups he is real loose on the first and second shots but then he tightens up on the third. I think this contributes to some of the kickers. Overall great vid and loved this week I’m a 3006 guy myself.
@finniganshomestead2956
@finniganshomestead2956 2 месяца назад
That makes me happy that I bought a 1950 vintage JC Higgins ( Mauser98 made by FN ) that will shoot sub MOA with 130 grain TSX and 180 Nosler partition. I got that rifle as a never fired safe queen for 300 bucks Paid more for the scope and bases than I did for the rifle ... long live the good old 06
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 2 месяца назад
What a treasure !!
@finniganshomestead2956
@finniganshomestead2956 2 месяца назад
@@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico I wanted it for the action to build a 6.5 - 06 Ai on it but then made the " mistake " to shoot the donor rifle
@gregewing3916
@gregewing3916 2 месяца назад
The two bullets I was thinking of hand loading are the 130 grain Barnes and the 165 gr. Not likely to go elk hunting so either wanted to handle any deer in this neck of the woods
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 2 месяца назад
@@finniganshomestead2956 that mistake was sacred destiny!
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico
@DonGilbertoGuruledeNuevoMejico 2 месяца назад
@@finniganshomestead2956 did you name your special rifle? I give mine some cool and sometimes NSFW names
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 2 месяца назад
Not that I know anything after 60+ years reloading hunting and collecting rifles but I think it’s the ammo or the scope or mounts causing the problem from what I have seen from sighting in hundreds of guns😳
@joshuamccasland8180
@joshuamccasland8180 2 месяца назад
Ron, keep this up with different cartridges. I think your doing something different than mainstream and I like it.
@warrenpolidori5541
@warrenpolidori5541 2 месяца назад
Having a hard time thinking all these rifles shoot this poorly. Many of these tests weren't groups at all with wild flyers. While not a big fan of sleds, for this test, it would help establish a better baseline. Properly torqued action screws, and a free float check would also erase some questions. We're the barrels cleaned? Too many questions without knowing if we have an even starting point. Just my .02c
@GunsAndGrenache
@GunsAndGrenache 2 месяца назад
270 Week coming up next?
@abwdagreat
@abwdagreat 2 месяца назад
Watching from Tasmania Australia, just bought my first 30-06 it's a single shot Baikal. My motto is you shouldn't need two shots.
@raoulsilaghi2504
@raoulsilaghi2504 2 месяца назад
Until you do 😉
@abwdagreat
@abwdagreat 2 месяца назад
@@raoulsilaghi2504 won't lie and say it hasn't happened but always been quick enough to follow up still with the single shot.
@raoulsilaghi2504
@raoulsilaghi2504 2 месяца назад
@@abwdagreat Good for you then. I'm hunting in Burgundy, France and the environment doesn't permits always a good single shot.
@abwdagreat
@abwdagreat 2 месяца назад
I won't take the shot if I think I'll need a second.
@andrewcleveland
@andrewcleveland Месяц назад
I had a ruger no 1 in 416 rem mag really liked that rifle, but as soon as I finally found a Winchester m70 safari in same caliber I had to get it. Took me forever to finally track down that model 70 during covid. Really love the ruger no 1’s, but I still prefer bolt actions. I do a lot of jump shooting whitetails walking cutovers and a single shot is not that great for that 😂
@dancrane674
@dancrane674 2 месяца назад
I am shocked at how poorly these rifles have shot. When I bought my Tikka T3X and was breaking it in, it shot a 9/16” group with Whitetail ammo! I’ve since gone to hand loading and have done a bit better with .05” groups with both 124gr and 168gr Hammer Hunters. I highly doubt each of those rifles shoot that poorly there is something else going on. If that had been me, I’d have put one of my personal scopes on one of those rifles to see if that was the problem. This is not a great example how accurate the 30-06 really is.
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 Месяц назад
💯% agree 👍🏻
@wiregrassga
@wiregrassga 2 месяца назад
My current .30-06 is a tang safety Ruger 77 I bought new in 1981. It had disappointing accuracy initially with factory loads but I found a handload that makes it shoot like a target rifle; 150gr Nosler BT and IMR 4064. With this load it will shoot consistent sub MOA. Also I did make one modification, floating the barrel.
@RedHuntsman
@RedHuntsman 2 месяца назад
Miroku makes some nice rifles. The BLR as an example.
@nilsforseth404
@nilsforseth404 2 месяца назад
Hi Ron. Like I mentioned in another video comments, I've been shooting 30-06 rifles for 53 years. I have never had groups that large ever. Since most of the rifles you used shot poorly I don't think it's the rifles. The common denominator for each rifle is the scope. My new Winchester model 70 Super Grade 30-06 shoots less than 1 MOA. Usually 0.5 inch groups. Then again I hand load specifically for both my 30-06 rifles. The other being a 1972 Remington 700 BDL that still shoots 0.5 inch groups. I would try a different make scope to see what happens. Good luck.
@jameswallace3226
@jameswallace3226 Месяц назад
Leupold or Ziess for about the same money
@gregbaker9985
@gregbaker9985 2 месяца назад
My Remington 7400 I bought in 1982. Shoot a lot better than all those put together
@ed5042
@ed5042 2 месяца назад
Thanks for shooting again, was Shocked with the first results
@anthonyjbargeman5280
@anthonyjbargeman5280 2 месяца назад
Ron, I still love my Remington 700. And it's a shooter @ one up to one and a quarter moa. Even better with hand loads.
@alyssadolphincloud8867
@alyssadolphincloud8867 2 месяца назад
The Remington 700 cdl is one of my favorites, hard to wrong with any 700
@dannymcdaniel1652
@dannymcdaniel1652 2 месяца назад
Thanks Ron and friends been a fantastic week watching this 3006 shoot off
@user-bb5uu6ze7z
@user-bb5uu6ze7z 2 месяца назад
After finding a loose screw in a rail. I would start with screw tension and optics. I have 4 30-06 rifles, and they can be a bit finicky with ammo. I don't own a single rifle that shoots Remington or Hornady ammunition well.
@anthonygendron9737
@anthonygendron9737 2 месяца назад
If I remember correctly the online reviews of all of the Christianson Rifle the have quality issues and do not shoot very well. Backfire channel had said the same.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 2 месяца назад
Just a over priced 700 clone action😳😢
@stewarthoy7357
@stewarthoy7357 2 месяца назад
I have a 308 Ridgeline and it’s a tack driver! Guess I got lucky.
@lyellclare9365
@lyellclare9365 2 месяца назад
As per my previous comments , I would take a serious look at the quality of the scopes and check the bases and are the thread caps for a suppressor tight.
@davidbrock1565
@davidbrock1565 2 месяца назад
Appreciate an honest and open model for testing. Enjoyed the series
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 2 месяца назад
Cool 😎 , I own a BLR in .30-06
@jeremypenn827
@jeremypenn827 2 месяца назад
Thank you, Ron! I've really enjoyed your videos this week on the 30.06! I have one in the Remington 700 ADL model. My favorite hunting rifle for elk. Keep up the good work! God bless.
@johnhagerman320
@johnhagerman320 2 месяца назад
Ron thank you for all the knowledge and videos you have given us. I look forward to the and appreciate all you do!!!!
@ridgewalker2416
@ridgewalker2416 27 дней назад
I have a cheap Remington 78. I put a cheap Remington plastic stock on it many many years ago. The best factory load is the Barnes 150 TTSX into .47” at the 100 meter range. Hornady 165 SST factory loads into .75”. Hand loads ranging from 130 Barnes TTSX to Nosler 200 Partition are all under 1.0” at the 100 meter range. I too like to shoot only 3 shots at a time, then on multiple days with different atmospheric conditions testing again. So far I have taken a lot of game in my 76 years and very rarely has it taken more than the first shot out of a cold barrel. In all honesty on tougher game such as elk, I keep shooting until they are down and dead. Mainly in respect for the animal. Thanks for your interesting shows. I hope I never get too old to learn something new, or be reminded of something I have forgotten. LOL!
@andymauthe5508
@andymauthe5508 2 месяца назад
Really inconsistent groupings. Yes the 30-06 has been around a long time and I can believe that the chamber dimensions are more sloppy than a modern PRC or other such chamber. But one of the most accurate rifles I own and have ever shot is a Sauer 202 in 30-06. It’s got a fairly light sporter weight barrel but consistently shoots right around a half inch at 100 yards with good factory ammo. So a 30-06 is certainly capable of very good accuracy. None of these rifles shot very well considering what some of them cost and the fact that they are are all current manufactured. Doesn’t make sense to me.
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 2 месяца назад
Hes shooting upwards all that muzzle rise is definitely not helpful
@christianzale505
@christianzale505 2 месяца назад
I think the scopes are the issue not the rifles.
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 2 месяца назад
@christianzale505 it can't be the rifles i only ever had one gun (out of 15 or so) that shot consistently worse than 1.5 moa and i traded it away Now given thats with handloads but still most factory ammo i can keep at about 1.25 moa average
@saskdad115
@saskdad115 2 месяца назад
BLR in 30-06 is fantastic
@rollercam351
@rollercam351 2 месяца назад
You two make a great couple on screen. Thanks for another great vid Ron!
@longdarn
@longdarn 2 месяца назад
I have a sporterized Springfield 03A3 with the military barrel. I purchased some factory Remington CoreLokt 125 grain that shoot a .60 group. Thanks for the 30-06 videos! I thoroughly enjoyed them. I have seen, in my 62 years of life, the 30-06 shoot much better than the ones shown here. My uncle had a Remington model 788 in 30-30 that would almost constantly shoot sub MOA with whatever you threw down the barrel. Interesting stuff!!
@Sageofthe16
@Sageofthe16 2 месяца назад
looking at these groups is brutal. my buddy has a maven scope on a 5k gun that wouldn't shoot. put a nightforce on and it got really tight
@thepracticalrifleman
@thepracticalrifleman 2 месяца назад
So .308 is more accurate, and 165s in both go about the same speed, at least according to Nosler. Haha Ron’s .308 hating seems like it will fade away.
@johnhagerman320
@johnhagerman320 2 месяца назад
The 30-06 made by real men and blessed by the good Lord. God knows how much I love mine. And everyone I know compares everything to the 30-06
@jamescook7051
@jamescook7051 2 месяца назад
Something is wrong. Maybe scope is not up to handling the recoil, maybe try another shooter with same setup and same ammo and compare those results. Then try another scope/mount combo. All these should be around 1-2 MOA with most loads.
@sigvald11
@sigvald11 2 месяца назад
Love the safety shown in this series
@yanmak2363
@yanmak2363 2 месяца назад
Love the BLR
@terrywomack4756
@terrywomack4756 2 месяца назад
Agreed!!!
@craigmarks2771
@craigmarks2771 2 месяца назад
You were shooting to the right and stated i need to dial back to the right and then shot off paper to right. Think you dialed scope the wrong way.
@karsonbranham3900
@karsonbranham3900 2 месяца назад
I’ll go for the BLR, what’s not to like!?!
@dimensionsofearth
@dimensionsofearth 2 месяца назад
As soon as Ron chuckled at the end, I knew it was the Browning lever action that shot the best group! Loved 30-06 week and love the 30-06! That M1 Garand with open sights to what, 500 yards? Really impressed me too.
@dougkahler7152
@dougkahler7152 2 месяца назад
Tika or Sako would smoke those rifles. Sorry but I’m not impressed with those rifles. I like that BLR the best out of the bunch. I just would rather have that .660 group with the 165s instead of the 180s. Great video Ron.
@joshkrebs1999
@joshkrebs1999 2 месяца назад
I'm not an amazing shooter, but I have a CVA Cascade in 30-06, and I can keep it within 2 inches at 100 yards kneeling off hand if I do my part. 🤷‍♂️
@alfredbryant8328
@alfredbryant8328 Месяц назад
Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 stainless barrel 22” is extremely accurate and so is the Ruger American. The Westherby uses Howa barrels and it’s up there in accuracy.
@clintonlayne9253
@clintonlayne9253 2 месяца назад
Ron , I think your shoulder has taken a pounding from all the testing . That may be part of the issue.
@barrymcguyer6206
@barrymcguyer6206 2 месяца назад
180 is all I use in my 30-06!
@alyssadolphincloud8867
@alyssadolphincloud8867 2 месяца назад
I’m about to switch back to 180, never had a deer run off, drop like a sack of potatoes
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 Месяц назад
Bingo 🎯 👍🏻
@lucasvaughn629
@lucasvaughn629 2 месяца назад
Loved that blr and the savage!
@RobertSmith-xh4lx
@RobertSmith-xh4lx 2 месяца назад
Ok I have two Howa 1500 30-06s with factory 22" barrels....I handload for both....one is in a aluminum chassis, the other is in a carbon fiber m40 type stock....I average 3/4 moa with both, and lately have been around 1/4 to 3/8s if I do my part.... You're right Ron it is about the quality of the components..... how well the cartridge fits the chamber etc.
@Gearsofchocolate
@Gearsofchocolate 2 месяца назад
The way that Christensen Arms rifle was acting, I'm not surprised. I've had a couple friends who have bought their products, then returned or got rid of them, real fast. Not to mention, the action on that gun seemed incredibly stiff, gritty and just plain rough out of all those other guns. Not acceptable from a company that charges so much for their products. Other than that, great video. Love the 30-06!! My Remington 700 CDL shoots a majority of ammo, MOA or better. I love it!
@bobkat1663
@bobkat1663 2 месяца назад
I would really be interested to measure those barrels dia. land and grove, before send them off, and pulling the bullets and measuring them , see if one or both are out of speck. Thank you both really enjoy these series of the various gun makers out there. Great Show.
@adamturnbull6157
@adamturnbull6157 2 месяца назад
Ill keep hunting with my Tikka after watching this. Thanks for putting in the work so we dont have to.
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 2 месяца назад
Wish the Browing BAR was included, it shot just as good as these and a lot of guys don't want a bolt action. The Browning jammed but that just means it's functioning the same as a regular bolt action lol.
@ronladuke7235
@ronladuke7235 2 месяца назад
Can’t believe all those rifles are several brands of ammo would group so erratically?😢
@ironmaiden4746
@ironmaiden4746 2 месяца назад
I have a bergara b 14 hunter in 30-06 and did have moa at 100 yards. But I did have to clean it first to get there I used 150g Sako gamehead
@user-ko3fe8nh6x
@user-ko3fe8nh6x 2 месяца назад
Great job Ron ! I have a pre 64 mod 70 featherweight that shoots moa with barns ttsx . Have yet to have anything complaints from anything I've shot. Love your segments!
@lesliemann8859
@lesliemann8859 2 месяца назад
What about the sako s20 30-06 Springfield
@robertsebacher44
@robertsebacher44 Месяц назад
My guess is the scopes are the problem. I have 270, 30:06, 308, and 7mm REM Mag that all shoot sub MOA. Rings and mounts all have their inherent problems. There is now the possibility that enough premium ammunition may not be used to find one that the rifle prefers due to its cost. As you are aware the other variables affecting accuracy are too numerous to list. I also own in addition to those you tested, pump, semi automatic, and falling block rifles that are capable of greater accuracy than I can any longer achieve. If you’re just testing the rifle accuracy and not interested in ergonomics etc. then fire your groups from a led sled or other type of Vice. If you’re concerned with the guns suitability for hunting you need to try it from realistic shooting positions and not from a bench, after you have handled the rifle enough to be at least familiar and comfortable with it. All this is, of course, time intensive not to mention the expense of ammunition. It also helps to know competent gunsmiths who specialize in the firearms concerned. Sometimes a small tweak can have disproportionate benefits. Other times no amount of effort will create a cost effective solution. If you want to play then you have to roll the dice. My best advice is to place quality as your first priority within your fiscal limitations. Mine are fairly modest.
@ChrisMiano-cg7ll
@ChrisMiano-cg7ll 2 месяца назад
I’ve tried 4 different Christensen Carbon barrel Rifles and sold every one of them. They are they were all heat sensitive. Two good shots and then it was over. I e seen it at the range with other people. I agree that rifle has something wrong with it but that rifle is their normal.
@KingLoopie1
@KingLoopie1 2 месяца назад
Looks to me it's scope problems. Torques? I'll take the blr and the 180's.
@speyguyonthefly4798
@speyguyonthefly4798 2 месяца назад
Get the garmin chrono u won’t regret it . Hard to get good groups with most factory stuff as u know . I love my 30-06 model 70 SS feather light shoots tight groups
@TomorrowFarm13
@TomorrowFarm13 2 месяца назад
Great exercise. The foot of your gun rest tripod nearest you was raised on the 2nd Rifle Savage 's last shot. That could be what let the rifle down?
@brandiwynter
@brandiwynter Месяц назад
Next you guys need to do a classic open sight lever action accuracy test. .357 mag, the all time classic winner the .45 Colt and the .44 magnum. Test the Winchester, Henry, Rossi and some of the high end guns like Bighorn Armory and others 😁.
@thomasdecember3910
@thomasdecember3910 2 месяца назад
Its either the scopes or you ron ?
@jeddunning7058
@jeddunning7058 2 месяца назад
My buddy bought a carbon fiber barrel rifle in 300wsm. It had great accuracy until the third shot. Once that thin steel barrel sleeve would heat up, you had no idea where the rest of the shots were going. To compound problems, the carbon fiber seemed to act like a thermal insulator. This made waiting for the barrel to cool down a huge time suck at the range.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 2 месяца назад
😳 Probably Cheap Scopes or Bad Scope Mounts? 🤭 Or, Ron Needs To Keep His Shots Within 200 Yards! 🤓
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 2 месяца назад
I was think 150 yards but that’s just me😳🤣 Us old guys get better at giving advise and worse at being able to do it🤔
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 2 месяца назад
🕵️‍♂️ When The Sako Rifle Didn't Shoot, I Knew Something Wasn't Quite Right! 🙄
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 2 месяца назад
😬 Ron Probably Knew Too, But He Wasn't Willing to Call Out The Scope Company As The Problem! 🤷‍♂️
@gunsandmachinesenthusiast
@gunsandmachinesenthusiast Месяц назад
7:25 always fun when you get the right angle and see the round down range before it hits the target
@jeffreybean5363
@jeffreybean5363 2 месяца назад
Love the 30-06, I can say I've owned two different models of the 30-06 one was a Ruger model 77 featherweight I think that's what they called it back in early 2000. But now I own a Savage Axis in 30-06 it has a synthetic stock free floating barrel pretty good trigger out of the box and I'm averaging under 2 inches at 100 yards with 150 grain bullet in my book that's good enough to take white tail.
@jeffreybean5363
@jeffreybean5363 2 месяца назад
Oh by the way the scope is a 4-12x44 vortex
@BlackArcher221
@BlackArcher221 2 месяца назад
First let me say thanks to both of you for your painstaking work you put in on the 06 this week. I am jumping for joy. I own two of those BLR’s. Folks seem to poo poo on the BLR’s. I have two, a 308 and a 270. I feel vindicated. The trigger is crap on both of them as you measured. However, just like any rifle, you have to make them your own and/or get used to them. Once again thanks for all the hard work. Loved your 308 week as well.
@joedenning3
@joedenning3 2 месяца назад
That was fun to watch. I think the scope reticle came loose. I would like to see another attempt with a different brand of scope and I think your results could be much better.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ 2 месяца назад
Got that same Savage rifle for less than $500 awhile back. Cant beat that for a 110.
@SunoCorner
@SunoCorner 2 месяца назад
Let's see how the .270 does :)
@carliprofr
@carliprofr 2 месяца назад
From France ! 🇫🇷
@Aussie038
@Aussie038 2 месяца назад
By the time he went to the third rifle he was getting tired. It was not the ammo or the rifle that was causing the larger groups :)
@stephenfowler4115
@stephenfowler4115 2 месяца назад
The "loser" in this shoot out got progressively worse which suggests that something was loose.
@bennycase8473
@bennycase8473 6 дней назад
The Hornady 165 gr. is very consistent for me. Not new, but reliable. Used a lot of Remington Core-Lokt 150 gr. and 180 gr. as well. Love the Beatles paraphrase! That Howa seems to have a lot of recoil. Great shoot off guys!
@kadenhoff6814
@kadenhoff6814 Месяц назад
Well browning is in my opinion one of the best manufacturers for a bolt action rifle and there lever actions in bottle neck cartridge. And if you can get lucky and send the BLR to a gun Smith like I did and now got a 4 pound trigger instead of 7.5 pounds trigger makes a huge difference.
@tonymills7883
@tonymills7883 2 месяца назад
What is up guys my xpr shoots sub moa at 100 yards . That is with a 124gr hammer hunter all the way up to a 178 ELDX. I have never seen such bad groups out of 30-06.
@tonymills7883
@tonymills7883 2 месяца назад
You could have got a browning x bolt 2 and tried it . That’s is a fine rifle for the cost.
@peterhert9350
@peterhert9350 Месяц назад
My XPR 3006 shoots as good, but I have to look from time to time that the actionscrews don't come loose.
@dougchandler1248
@dougchandler1248 2 месяца назад
Love the 3006 but the groups in these videos would make a statue cry.
@gregewing3916
@gregewing3916 2 месяца назад
That is where good old-fashioned handloading might or might not improve things
@Texasmade4444444444
@Texasmade4444444444 2 месяца назад
Yall should try some federal and remington core locked tipped
@jeffreyadams5017
@jeffreyadams5017 2 месяца назад
Like that Browning lever action. Sweet looking rifle. Good in the woods or back country. Very maneuverable in any hunting situation
@20cameron1
@20cameron1 2 месяца назад
Good to see someone that doesn’t discount this great cartridge. I have a Tikka T3X roughtech with ember stock in 30-06. At 100 yards I get 1/2” groups with Barnes Vortx 150gr and Hornady outfitter 180gr. I get 2-3 inch groups at 100 yards shooting offhand.
@sigvald11
@sigvald11 2 месяца назад
On that last rifle when you were going right you said you dialed it right when you adjusted, might be part of the issue.
@64samsky
@64samsky 2 месяца назад
I have a Whetherby Vanguard in 30-06, I love that rifle!
@johnmorganjr769
@johnmorganjr769 2 месяца назад
Same here. 💯
@davidtennyson4908
@davidtennyson4908 2 месяца назад
Have had a bunch of .30 caliber rifles. Have never had one that shot light (150 gr ) accurately. 308 win, 30-06, 300 mags, all liked 165-180 gr.. 300 Win Mag loved 200 gr Remington Premier. Had a 308 BLR that would get 3/4 inch with Federal Premium 165's, 2" with 150's.
@BrandonSmith-xf2ms
@BrandonSmith-xf2ms Месяц назад
Well I've shot several 3006 in my life. The Remington 700 shot MOA out of the box. Dad's old Savage 110 I had to do a trigger job cause hard trigger pull and had to float the barrel to get MOA. The Remington 742 semiauto shot about a inch to a 2 inch group.
@timmcanally9599
@timmcanally9599 2 месяца назад
Hello Ron.I have a savage axis with remington core 165 tipped 1 moa,nosler was tighter but would not ejecked
@ed9041
@ed9041 2 месяца назад
On the Christianson arms riffle... I really wanted you to check if that muzzle break was nice and snug... Anyway like I said before my Sako 3006 shoots a sub MOA consistently... even a 1/2 MOA consistently. But I hand reload... I have noticed something that might be worth thinking about... my 180gr reloads travel at 2450fps, more towards the 308 speeds. The factory loads seem to travel in the 2600 - 2700 range.
@rosshill2565
@rosshill2565 2 месяца назад
Well, maybe it is too slow. I have reloads with 180 grain bullets and H4350 powder that shoot 2850 range and they shoot a under MOA. I have 165 grain bullets with H4350, which is going 2965 average and is the top bullet with 3/4 inch groups.
@anthonyfairbanks2952
@anthonyfairbanks2952 2 месяца назад
Crazy my old savage Axis in 6.5cm put most factory ammo in sub moa but the bases would always come loose and I would have to take my scope off just to tighten it back up I got sick of doing that so I sold it and got Ruger 7mm-08
@larsjobe3953
@larsjobe3953 2 месяца назад
I love that I'm not the only one who fumbles with the mag release on a Savage
@christianzale505
@christianzale505 2 месяца назад
I really think the issue here are the Maven scopes. I have a hard time believing that all these rifles shoot this terribly.
@awsomedude12345678
@awsomedude12345678 2 месяца назад
Well after 30-06 week i know not to buy a maven scope either that or ron is just a terrible shot
@steverutkowski8141
@steverutkowski8141 2 месяца назад
I get sponsored vids but wondering if the scopes are the issue???
@user-bb5uu6ze7z
@user-bb5uu6ze7z 2 месяца назад
Also, accuracy issues could be the action screw torque specs are off. I have bought rifles where those screws weren't even torqued self imposed factory specs.
@chital_shikari3163
@chital_shikari3163 2 месяца назад
I’ve watched more than one of these .30-06 videos and they’ve been cool. .30-06 is my favorite for sure. But I think that the factory loadings offered for .30-06 don’t fully accurize it. Someone else commented that every video’s groups show 2-shots right next to each other and a 3rd flier. I don’t know if that’s coincidence or if Mr spomer was consistently having a flier in each group. I had a Vanguard (series 1) which is a Howa 1500 rebranded by Weatherby for many years. It shot 1.5” 5-shot groups all the time but rarely shot 1” 3-shot groups (it was only rated/certified for 1.5” at 100yd). Then I replaced it with a Mark V Hunter and I think the best group I shot with it was at 300yd, right at 4” or so; don’t ever recall shooting less than an inch at 100 yards though. Now I have a Benelli Lupo which I’ve shot a handful of half inch or better groups with, and I’ve shot 2 other Lupos that can do the same. All 150gr soft points from various factory loadings.
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