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Can A Modern Formula 1 Actually Beat the V10s? 

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Last time we asked how long it would take Max Verstappen's RB16 to lap everything out there. This time we ask: how well does Lando Norris' McLaren MC35 fare against almost every era of classic F1 car? Once again, we take to Assetto Corsa to find out.
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@tomcole020
@tomcole020 2 года назад
It’d be cool to see a “restomod” of an early ‘00s V10 F1 car with modern aero,tires, DRS e.t.c to see how insane it’d be
@nesovsky1474
@nesovsky1474 2 года назад
rfactor2 formula pro
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 года назад
I was just day dreaming about that
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 года назад
F2004 with turbo v10, drs , ers , and slick tires , driven by pedro de la rosa
@laszlovanhouwelingen645
@laszlovanhouwelingen645 2 года назад
@@thatonenigeriansformula dont forget the 8th gear. It could probs go 380 with all of that(8th gear, drs, ers and slicks) not that slicks matter for topspeed but still
@wolfx.2546
@wolfx.2546 2 года назад
@@nesovsky1474 yes
@papawoody9597
@papawoody9597 Год назад
The two best sounds from F1's past that I'll mourn the loss of probably forever - The manic shriek of a V10, and Kimi on the radio.
@WantonSoup192
@WantonSoup192 Год назад
Iceman
@aimarowenhuarte
@aimarowenhuarte 3 месяца назад
And they call kimithe iceman
@alf3071
@alf3071 3 месяца назад
yea it's so sad they don't sound like that anymore, that is the real sound of formula 1, it should never be forgotten
@aimarowenhuarte
@aimarowenhuarte 3 месяца назад
@@alf3071 exactly the V8 years where some fantastic years
@philipejeuceoututkache
@philipejeuceoututkache 3 месяца назад
@@aimarowenhuarte but not as best as the V10 era.
@gregrowe1168
@gregrowe1168 10 месяцев назад
Kimi's commentary never disappoints. "Leave me alone, I know what to do" Lol.
@techbusiness9589
@techbusiness9589 2 месяца назад
😅😂😂
@arjun._.bbC6
@arjun._.bbC6 Год назад
Ferrari on hards. Yep. They predicted the future.
@t.t.k132
@t.t.k132 Год назад
yep
@a3nofficial25
@a3nofficial25 Год назад
Yep
@PhantomXT
@PhantomXT Год назад
Yep
@shawn4997
@shawn4997 Год назад
yep
@aviaspotter32
@aviaspotter32 Год назад
Yep
@greenboir1383
@greenboir1383 2 года назад
The little insert of Kimi saying“Just leave me alone I know what I’m doing” got me😂
@AlexMitoMedia
@AlexMitoMedia 2 года назад
All the Kimi Moments! Gonna miss him in that mega quick McLaren from 2005. 900bhp and so much lighter than 2021 machines. Great video man I love your voice and excitement!
@Ermz
@Ermz 2 года назад
We'll all miss him! End of an era, for sure.,
@kayzenl7911
@kayzenl7911 2 года назад
Meanwhile 2022 cars are heavier than 2022 uglier or even worst
@believeinjesus6972
@believeinjesus6972 2 года назад
Repent to Jesus Christ “And my God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus.” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:19‬ ‭NIV‬‬ h
@DEDE-mt3yq
@DEDE-mt3yq Год назад
yeah perfect video i just missed the time and placements while they were racing.
@berkin99
@berkin99 Год назад
shame it blew up half the time
@thepsychologist8159
@thepsychologist8159 Год назад
14:38 "Now imagine if those cars weren't on grooved slicks made intentionally to slow them down'. - Yep, absolutely. And you'd find if they were on slicks, Montoya's pre-qualifying time at Monza 2004 would still stand as the fastest lap instead of Hamilton in his Hybrid Mercedes on slicks.
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 Год назад
Except it wouldn’t
@brubrulani
@brubrulani Год назад
@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 give it an 8 speed gear box and it would destroy the obese Mercedes
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 Год назад
@@brubrulani except it wouldn’t
@brubrulani
@brubrulani Год назад
@@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 except it would
@WXSTANG
@WXSTANG Год назад
They are changing the tracks all the time to make them safer, remove barriers, etc which makes the track generally faster. A modern day F1 will get trouced by an older V10 with modern day electronic systems.
@Idejxhcjcjvvkchgvuv
@Idejxhcjcjvvkchgvuv 3 месяца назад
Can a 10 year old girl beat Mike Tyson?
@AshwinVijayakumar2430
@AshwinVijayakumar2430 12 дней назад
No
@ouns5192
@ouns5192 5 дней назад
It could try i guess....
@monkeycheese6756
@monkeycheese6756 2 года назад
Honestly, imagine what power they could get out of a V10 these days, it would be insane.
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 2 года назад
Imagine e power they could get out of these Cars if they had the same displacement as v10
@Celatra
@Celatra 2 года назад
V10 weighs too much. Also no turbo + the current weight of the cars = slower overall cars
@claudiomarangone614
@claudiomarangone614 2 года назад
@@Celatra He is referring to the engine.
@claudiomarangone614
@claudiomarangone614 2 года назад
@@CelatraPardon… I meant- engine power. The development of engine power on the V10
@OxBlitzkriegxO
@OxBlitzkriegxO 2 года назад
@@Celatra the V10s weighed LESS than the V6, bot the car AND the engine. dont be a potato
@NoahBClark15
@NoahBClark15 2 года назад
Great video Ermin, as always, but Monza was a poor track of choice. I think it is generally well known that the modern cars top end speed is not its strong suit. I would have gone more a more mixed up track like Spa, with decent straight, but still plenty of places for modern cars to show their true strengths as well.
@tysopiccaso8711
@tysopiccaso8711 2 года назад
Ermin moment
@McBeamer94
@McBeamer94 2 года назад
"Not their strong suit" and then the DRS opens. Ok. Monza is just fine.
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
@unfortunately_fortunate2000 2 года назад
yeah 350 kmh down the main straight at monza proves modern cars arent good in a straight line, oh wait... monza is the perfect track to show off a cars power, unlike spa which is a power and handling circuit, monza is purely a power circuit, you're only going to do well there if youve got enough POWAH BABEH
@fckcps8054
@fckcps8054 2 года назад
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 if f1 was just about power we wouldn't se such a big emphasis on aerodynamics, right now they are more important than raw hp
@coliimusic
@coliimusic 2 года назад
I think the corners at Monza do tend to emphasize the weight difference in the cars, mainly due to the long braking zone.
@smoloms
@smoloms Год назад
Imagine the W11 with a V10. the insane aero and the insane engines.
@antoniohagopian213
@antoniohagopian213 11 месяцев назад
Would be slower
@zeroatlast
@zeroatlast 11 месяцев назад
​@@antoniohagopian213 lmao
@alessandro7805
@alessandro7805 10 месяцев назад
Insane favoritism too, Ferrari presented DAS to MaFIA in 2018 and they rejected it.
@chumleyk
@chumleyk 10 месяцев назад
The W11 was a shit heap of an ugly bastard to put that engine in.
@cosmic4791
@cosmic4791 6 месяцев назад
@@antoniohagopian213no because they v10 is lighter revs higher and makes more power plus take modern engineering in account it would put these fucking lawn mowers to shame
@DeathclawsTheDragon2003
@DeathclawsTheDragon2003 2 года назад
I think the main reason the V10 cars are faster on the straights is because... since the hybrid cars gained a huge Downforce gain in 2017, it caused ALOT of drag, and drag decreases top speed, however the V10s ran on a lower downforce setup, therefore less drag, so they had a higher top speed
@feliperea3271
@feliperea3271 Месяц назад
Or maybe the Engine had something to do with it as well. And the hundreds of horsepower they needed to take of as well
@nuggy4051
@nuggy4051 2 года назад
Those V10's were peak F1, I grew up watching them and they are absolute rockets that have not been matched by the later gens
@jacobhanekamp2534
@jacobhanekamp2534 2 года назад
Uhhhhh................. Whos gonna tell him that the Top Speed of the V10s was the one good thing about it, and that at any other track, the modern cars would dominate
@nuggy4051
@nuggy4051 2 года назад
@@jacobhanekamp2534 the lap records held up for over 10 years and on sims I found they feel more nimble and have more mechanical grip in low speed turns
@jamesmckeary8428
@jamesmckeary8428 Год назад
are the mercedes 2017 cars faster? , i thought they were the fastest f1 car ever
@dohvakin68
@dohvakin68 Год назад
@@jamesmckeary8428 i think, the fastest f1 would be the mercedes w11 from 2020, it was a rocket ship glued to the track.
@bjarnonegames5394
@bjarnonegames5394 Год назад
@@nuggy4051 and yet Still today most of those records get beaten by cars twice as heavy as the v10s were, they were arrows on straights but on every other occasion especially acceleration of today the hybrids win clearly, also they are much more environmentally friendly than the pure gas pump that was the v10
@TheOtherNeutrino
@TheOtherNeutrino 2 года назад
Amazing... Kimi's McLaren made it without blowing up!
@user-dv3sm1ff5q
@user-dv3sm1ff5q 2 года назад
Surprising that the reliability of that MP4/20 is as realiable as the F2002 lol.
@mcfowler1675
@mcfowler1675 Год назад
@@user-dv3sm1ff5q an equally unreliable car in general. In terms of outright pace, Kimi was quicker than Alonso in 05, if it was more reliable then he would’ve won the championship that year
@destynova106
@destynova106 Год назад
Suzuka 2005 Kimi ❤
@RBMapleLeaf
@RBMapleLeaf Год назад
@@mcfowler1675 Wasn’t the MP4-18 (2003) even worse? I mean there were so many opportunities Kimi could’ve got points had his engine not fail him I believe almost 50% of the 17 races that year.
@Marcodj83
@Marcodj83 9 месяцев назад
​@@RBMapleLeafthe mp4-18 did not even made it to the start of a gp
@mariusbrabus
@mariusbrabus Год назад
I'm a bit bias on this, since I grew up with the V12 era F1 cars, so those sound a lot better to me than the V10s. Also, the added Kimi antics on the video had me laughing hard! Great video!
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 2 года назад
The late 1990's to early 2000's were the best era after 1980's turbos. No ABS, no traction control, beryllium engine parts, 900-1000hp from 3litre v10, 19-20 000rpm, no max rev limit in the rules.
@STREET24000
@STREET24000 Год назад
The cars from 2001-2007 actually did have traction control.
@AlexandreCardinal50
@AlexandreCardinal50 2 года назад
Man I loved those Kimi edits 😂 the water bottle 😂
@Alexanderlich90
@Alexanderlich90 2 года назад
Absolutely amazing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Cannonballdrive
@Cannonballdrive Год назад
I literally slid down from the chair on the floor while laughing out loud.
@JReaLBiz86
@JReaLBiz86 2 года назад
As a sound engineer, I LOVE the little added touch with the audio filter on your voice for the in-car bits. Well played, HamSandwich. Well played.
@officialvisaural
@officialvisaural 2 года назад
He does mention he’s a sound engineer around 8m30 ish.
@JReaLBiz86
@JReaLBiz86 2 года назад
@@officialvisaural you're right! I should've said as a "fellow" engineer. Still it's a neat little touch
@officialvisaural
@officialvisaural 2 года назад
@@JReaLBiz86 Yeah I was refreshed to watch a video with good audio mixing.
@trusstingod
@trusstingod 2 года назад
The kimi comments are a great touch
@jackryan4313
@jackryan4313 Год назад
@@officialvisaural I read your comment as I got to him saying "I'm a sound engineer"😂
@kaleandoscope
@kaleandoscope 2 года назад
The cars these days have grown so much bigger, they old 2000s car were so powerful and nimble. And the V10... I get goosebumps listening to such symphony!
@adilO.o
@adilO.o Год назад
Very cool video !!! Wow so many memories watching this. I think F1 V10s of 2004 are the quickest ever. They had weird limitation on the tyres, 4 stripes in the middle to slow them. With slick tires they would have gone seconds faster. And in race mode as refuelling was allowed, they were absolute sprint machine lapping 5 to 6 seconds faster than modern cars. Alonso, Button, Schumacher, Barrichello etc looked completely destroyed at the end of races. It was another time, different context, different issues but it was nice 😎🙌🏻
@andyventures6574
@andyventures6574 2 года назад
Mansell's 92 Williams should have been in there . The pinnacle of technology. Senna's MP4/2 as well.
@keso_de_bola9174
@keso_de_bola9174 Год назад
Senna never drove the McLaren-Porsche MP4/2. He drove the McLaren-Honda MP4/4.
@clockner
@clockner 2 года назад
5:09 classic Kimi 😂😂😂
@Gokarting_Damian
@Gokarting_Damian Год назад
True
@JustAbidTooMuch
@JustAbidTooMuch Год назад
Okay but clockner being an F1 fan is not something I expected to see 😂
@jrock9687
@jrock9687 Год назад
Juan Pablo Montoyas record stood there at Monza for so long in that Williams V10 BMW. On grooved Bridgestones no less. Miss the screaming V10's so much! And as an IndyCar fan over F1 the days of the 1000HP twin turbo methanol breathing 256 MPH top speed CART monsters are of a bygone era. Its looking more and more like the early 2000K's was the peak 'Golen Era' of motorsports that will never be seen again.
@alfredoelbombo3423
@alfredoelbombo3423 2 года назад
imagine the old v10 engines combined with today's aerodynamics. it would be wonderful to hear and see. that would be a BEAST!!!!
@danesebruno
@danesebruno Год назад
The V10s wouldnt have enough torque to push the cars thru the air. Top speed would be around 300 kp
@100ksubscribersandipostvid5
​@@danesebruno due to the lack of tuebos?
@100ksubscribersandipostvid5
​@@danesebruno turbos plus hybrid?
@danesebruno
@danesebruno Год назад
@@100ksubscribersandipostvid5 The V10s were designed for small, lightweight cars. The harmony was perfect. The modern engines have a LOT more torque due to the turbos and electric motors
@michaelmeier9085
@michaelmeier9085 2 года назад
they are using grooved tires “makes you wonder how fast they are on slick tires“ - this is VERY easy to find out, in content manager chose the car and hit “replace tires“ and you can fit anything on any car! Please make a video with mid 2000 f1 cars on slik tires and also put that record breaking endurance porsche in it! (And put one ai with your car in the grid so we can see how far off the ai pace frim a human is, I think if humans drove on that race in alonsis and kimis car tgey would be a lot quicker but its hard to tell by how much if you dont have an ai competing with your car)
@lucabuzz2678
@lucabuzz2678 2 года назад
I just tried that on my content manager, it doesn’t work… It keeps telling me to “hold shift to swap tyres” tried that as Well, didn’t work either. Would you care to explain more in depth how you are supposed to do it?
@michaelmeier9085
@michaelmeier9085 2 года назад
@@lucabuzz2678 hey, I just tried it and it didnt work for me either. I didnt use cm in at least half a year so maybe I forgot how it works but judging from my internet search this broke some time in 2021. You can try earlier version of content manager from 2019 or use the “generate new tires“ option in the replace tires menu.
@lucabuzz2678
@lucabuzz2678 2 года назад
@@michaelmeier9085 yeah…
@michaelmeier9085
@michaelmeier9085 2 года назад
@@lucabuzz2678 I made it! I had the feeling something special was necessary to make this tire swap work so I went back and played around a bit and it worked: Click replace tires - then on the right side where it lists all tires left click any tire and hold - then drag them to the left side where the cars current tires are-keep holding left click and right click under the #1 - release both mouse keys- then a delete box will appear - while this box is open - drag the tires you want to have from the right to the left. And now they are accepted. Try it several times it needs some practice :) Write me if it works for you!
@jackryan4313
@jackryan4313 Год назад
@@michaelmeier9085 the fact that both of y'all have the same color for y'all's profile pic...😂
@bertlemoi431
@bertlemoi431 2 года назад
i really miss the v10 days... the sounds man. the sounds...
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter Год назад
A uniquely entertaining comparison, thanks for going to the trouble. I'm sure dozens of people have already asked, but I would like to see a comparison race between a few of the top 5 F1 cars and the same number of fastest-ever LeMans prototypes on this fantastic Monza track.
@feliperea3271
@feliperea3271 Месяц назад
In truth as we see with the track records that go down each year. In real life with similar tires the results would probably be the more recent the farther up the grid you would be. It’s not only about the engine, even though it makes a difference it’s not all. And with the changes to smaller engines aerodynamics solutions were implemented that completely changed the landscape year by year. Of course there would be black swan situations. But as a rule of thumb.
@CptFlasheart
@CptFlasheart Год назад
The reason theyre so fast on the straights besides the epic 19000rpm V10's is they are less wide with thinner tyres, makes a massive difference in drag.
@Higherselffitness
@Higherselffitness 2 года назад
OMG... I love the kimi radio reaction, “JUST LEAVE ME ALONE I KNOW WHAT TO DO” 🤣🤣 he is a legend will miss him 😣 in F1
@fullborev8906
@fullborev8906 2 года назад
This was fun and intense to watch. Well done and great video! Those V10 era F1 cars are truly one of a kind. Here, and in real life. 👌
@elonmusk7127
@elonmusk7127 2 года назад
I love ur commentary man! And this video answers all the questions
@giovannifrrri5495
@giovannifrrri5495 2 года назад
Okay, but imagine the V10s in today's cars with all the technology and same dimensions, they'd definitely be faster...
@giovannifrrri5495
@giovannifrrri5495 2 года назад
Same tyre compounds
@somethinganything4864
@somethinganything4864 Год назад
wouldn't be faster the new engines make more power
@giovannifrrri5495
@giovannifrrri5495 Год назад
@@somethinganything4864 the total package, yes, the actual engine, no. It's not hard, more fuel = more power, but lower efficiency, yes
@raskolnikov6443
@raskolnikov6443 Год назад
@@somethinganything4864 no
@TheTeremaster
@TheTeremaster Год назад
They'd be slower, you can't fit the modern package in the cars with a v10. You'd have to strip away the MGU which would leave you with 900hp compared to the v6 package with a whopping 1300hp
@tobycuckson9055
@tobycuckson9055 2 года назад
My only problem with this is that the mods for the older cars may be less accurate because they are made by single people unlike the Race Sim Studio official 2021 f1 car
@PlatinumAgar
@PlatinumAgar 2 года назад
Well the mid 2000s cars are made by a well known team if I remember correctly, so that is really all that matters as they are the fastest cars
@jasoncoates1835
@jasoncoates1835 2 года назад
The RSS cars (physics-wise) are made by one person too. That's... not a valid criticism. What is valid is that very little hard data exists in the public realm for most of these which will, inevitably, lead to problems with realism. Good point poorly made. ;)
@mch6367
@mch6367 2 года назад
@@PlatinumAgar all you have to do is look at lap records to find out which cars are the fastest and it's 2017-2021 by an absolute mile
@MrJr1976
@MrJr1976 2 года назад
@@mch6367 Well that's not apples to apples. The V10 cars didn't have slicks or DRS. Yas Marina 2020 proved that the V10 cars on slicks still had the ability to keep up. And that's with an engine nearly 2 decades old limited to a certain RPM. Imagine if more R&D had been put into the V10. No doubt such a monster would scorch the modern cars built to be as micromanaged as possible.
@mch6367
@mch6367 2 года назад
@@MrJr1976 yeah..... but it wasn't built differently...... so it's slower....................
@k41zen12
@k41zen12 2 года назад
Ermin what a brilliant video. Made me laugh so much with the edits from Kimi after what has been a tough week. Genius. More, more, more 👏🏼🙏
@jcoulter43
@jcoulter43 2 года назад
I was thinking the same things! Ermin, you are a genius. Can't wait to see what you do next! God bless and Merry Christmas 🎄😎🎸
@Lepikoinen
@Lepikoinen Год назад
This was a brilliant video! Thank you and keep them coming?🔥🔥🤙🏼
@Kiwi_Bayer
@Kiwi_Bayer Год назад
Oh man, even though that was a game, I thoroughly enjoyed that! That was really entertaining and I've always wondered how the two would fare against each other Modern Vs the Classics. I would love to see something similar in real life. I would think that would sell out. Cool vid man!
@zmirc
@zmirc 2 года назад
The parts with Kimi are legendary 😅😂
@TCCcompetition
@TCCcompetition 2 года назад
Only OGs know this is a re upload
@filipruml
@filipruml 2 года назад
Right? I was a bit confused
@tmoshamo
@tmoshamo 2 года назад
I thought i had seen this video before👀
@rickdubbink
@rickdubbink 2 года назад
I knew it!
@ShadowRaptor42
@ShadowRaptor42 2 года назад
@@tmoshamo same
@MRacer001
@MRacer001 2 года назад
Why was it reuploaded? I knew I had seen this before
@adamgray2070
@adamgray2070 Год назад
Very entertaining! I enjoyed it all the way to the end.
@WDLC1911
@WDLC1911 Месяц назад
*VERY* entertaining! Subscribed! Thank you!
@totowolffstable4044
@totowolffstable4044 2 года назад
It feels like F1 is getting slower but isn't the W11 the fastest car in F1 history?
@rak7791
@rak7791 2 года назад
The old f1 cars in this video are quite unrealistic the w11 would destroy any f1 car ever
@matheussouza3751
@matheussouza3751 2 года назад
@@rak7791 its the track, the v10s are still unbeatable in top speed. Any other track and the 2021 cars would have won it easily
@rak7791
@rak7791 2 года назад
@@matheussouza3751 yeah i agree
@harukrentz435
@harukrentz435 2 года назад
Today's F1 dont allowed for refuel, how do you think teams cope with that?
@CodeineAbdulJabbar
@CodeineAbdulJabbar 2 года назад
@@harukrentz435 efficiency
@benjamincausley5866
@benjamincausley5866 2 года назад
Great to see one of my long time fave channels get referenced by Jimmy!! Remember when ACC came out and you were learning sim racing
@zxr83
@zxr83 10 месяцев назад
Bro! this was a great video!!!!
@Coolgamer400
@Coolgamer400 2 месяца назад
those V10 reving into another dimension is a charme on its own.
@chejlr
@chejlr 2 года назад
I can't believe you left out the car that held the record at Monza for more than 15 years. The BMW Williams v10.
@dogi233
@dogi233 2 года назад
I was also looking for it :)
@ssj3gotenks589
@ssj3gotenks589 2 года назад
Juan Pablo Montoya’s car?
@alkispanou3781
@alkispanou3781 Год назад
Plus the best f1 v10 ever made by far was M. Schumacher's ferrari F2004...but no comment..!
@johnnycab8986
@johnnycab8986 Год назад
@@alkispanou3781 F2004 was a better car but the BMW engine in the Williams was a monster.
@alkispanou3781
@alkispanou3781 Год назад
@@johnnycab8986 f1 is not just the engine is the whole package plus the F2004's engine produced over 970 hp which was at the top of the list along with the BMW engines.
@nanatzaya
@nanatzaya 2 года назад
I wonder how this would've ended if it was for a full race distance. Also lots of the additional weight of modern cars is safety related. Impact and crash structures, the halo and wheel tethers. Also Monza is very geared towards the older cars. Let them all have a go at Silverstone sometime.
@sampeter2714
@sampeter2714 Год назад
this guy has his clear biases. Not one mercedes car from the hybrid era, the cars that won 8 championships. instead he puts a ferrari 😂😂 this guys an idiot.
@meaghanratliff8131
@meaghanratliff8131 11 месяцев назад
1:49 “para-palapalab-palapalapa?” -Lando Norris 😂
@viirtualiized2495
@viirtualiized2495 2 года назад
Another Ermin video, let's go.
@PrinceAlhorian
@PrinceAlhorian 2 года назад
I miss the banshee wails of the the V12 and V10 era.
@Eliarrobcio
@Eliarrobcio Год назад
Those moments with Kimmi are pure gold Bro ;D Good job! ^^
@code_fk8817
@code_fk8817 2 года назад
No Mclaren MP4/4???? That's the most iconic of all
@svenzerx8490
@svenzerx8490 2 года назад
Only legends know this is a reupload
@siromak5535
@siromak5535 2 года назад
This confirms that I'm not crazy
@Moiiiiii
@Moiiiiii 2 года назад
it feels great seeing Kimi Raikkonen still killing it.
@Griffin283
@Griffin283 2 года назад
This is interesting to see as every single speed record set in F1 has been during the Hybrid Era
@Clovis5119
@Clovis5119 Год назад
lol yeah, this video is for the most part a demonstration of how inaccurate many of these mods are. But also this is a very setup-dependent track and comparisons are pretty pointless without working on that.
@magnusVarblomst
@magnusVarblomst 2 месяца назад
At one lap yes. In a full race the v10s would finish ahead.
@Griffin283
@Griffin283 2 месяца назад
@@magnusVarblomst they literally wouldn’t. They were slower as much as it hurts your nostalgia. Plus they’d have to put as their tanks were big enough.
@magnusVarblomst
@magnusVarblomst 2 месяца назад
@@Griffin283 I am comparing results of clean races, for example spain 2005 which was the last year of v10s, and spain 22 or 23. Race times are quicker back in 2005. You have to take into account they were faster in straights and the cars were way smaller and lighter. Tires were better too, since it was a performance competition between bridgestone and michelin, not degradation management for entertainment. Perhaps you are partially right and in some other circuits with more high speed corners v10 have worse results. Or if tire rules were different now they'd be faster all-around.
@Griffin283
@Griffin283 2 месяца назад
@@magnusVarblomst The groved tires were miles slower than modern slicks.. did you ever watch the demo of Alonso driving his championship car on them? It was a missile in comparison to what it was back then. Also, the Spanish GP isn’t a good argument because the 2023 qualifying times were much faster than the 2005 lap times. Not really sure what your point is? Sure they’re slightly faster in a straight line, but miles off in the high speed. They’re not going to be faster on many, is any circuits. Maybe the likes of Baku, Singapore or Monaco. But not on a traditional circuit
@afgtwd8161
@afgtwd8161 Год назад
Bro I love the little kimi cuts your putting in😂
@dakshpagar6718
@dakshpagar6718 2 года назад
The sound of that v10 gives the feels like as the rpms increase we feel that it's going faster and faster but i. The hybrid car's it's just feels we're going at a constant speed as we cannot feel the increase in speed and rpm as in the v10
@blank-re8qv
@blank-re8qv 2 года назад
also, i wonder how a full length session might go. obviously wouldn't have reliability and such to worry about, but between tire and fuel wear, pit strat, etc, maybe the cars would be closer? especially on a track that suits corners and acceleration much more
@superfast30
@superfast30 Год назад
The V10's and V12's were peak F1. Absolute monsters!
@davemorin-if3wk
@davemorin-if3wk 9 месяцев назад
in 1968 jimmy clark in a lotus H-16 set the lap record at spa with the old 22mile circuit, although that old circuit has been closed down, its basically still there, in 2008 they removed the barriers of the old spa circuit so that michael schummacher could break it in a v-10 car. he came close but no cigar, missed it by 1.1 seconds
@auxygene
@auxygene 2 года назад
2015 Ferrari would’ve had the equivalent of today’s soft tyres; they were just painted white
@QuantumS1ngularity
@QuantumS1ngularity 2 года назад
It all makes sense now. I was wondering why modern F1 races and cars look so slow - it's just because i'm used to the monsters that the early 2000s cars were. Smaller and less powerful engines with bulkier and heavier cars can't really bring something faster. Really miss the speed of the Golden F1 Era, but what i miss even more is the sound. Those howling V10 will forever stay not only in my mind, but my heart and soul as well.
@MaxWeir
@MaxWeir 6 месяцев назад
What an exciting race! Really enjoyed watching this ❤
@heitorcabral5072
@heitorcabral5072 Год назад
Holly sh*t, this was a lot more thrilling than I was expecting!!!! 😯 And Kimi's quotes...🤣 🥺
@googlreviews7813
@googlreviews7813 2 года назад
These V10 sounds are chilling. I miss those days.
@zeenzuan2494
@zeenzuan2494 2 года назад
Ciruit Gilles Villeneuve en Montréal 2000
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
@unfortunately_fortunate2000 2 года назад
while its a good visual comparison it is worth keeping in mind all the 90's & 2000's v10s and v8s are mods & some of them (like the ferrari 310b) are way too fast and others too slow
@gavincross8802
@gavincross8802 Год назад
This vid just earned you a sub, that was cool
@genofesron5174
@genofesron5174 Год назад
Great content, enjoyed the vd. Wish you’d use the fastest cars from each era tho
@michaelmeier9085
@michaelmeier9085 2 года назад
You can give the old cars any tires you want: In content manager click replace tires-then on the right side where it lists all tires left click any tires and - drag them to the left side where the cars current tires are-keep holding left click and right click under the #1 - and release both mouse keys - a delete box appears leave it open - now you can drag and drop any tire from right to left. Sounds complicated but it is easier than it sounds!
@saltbjorn
@saltbjorn 2 года назад
I mean no, the cornering speeds are all wrong with a lot of these cars and the downforce produced by the modern ones is unparalleled
@fredsas12
@fredsas12 2 года назад
Modern F1 cars actually have less downforce, but more weight and questionably "better" tyres. A large part of the so called "improving the racing" in modern F1 has been trying to make overtaking easier and safer. That means less high cornering efficiency (less downforce), more mistakes, but better slow cornering speed (higher mechanical grip) through the tyres.
@saltbjorn
@saltbjorn 2 года назад
@@fredsas12 look at the size of the cars and tell me there’s less downforce lad they’re got like twice the square area of bodywork to generate downforce with, it’s actually the low speed corners where the modern cars are slower due to being lazier and heavier
@Rick-sb1rg
@Rick-sb1rg 2 года назад
@@fredsas12 lmao
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 2 года назад
@@fredsas12 The land barges post 2017 are only faster in medium speed corners.
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189
@imjustspeakingfactsbro4189 2 года назад
@@sulphurous2656 the w11 in qualifying trim would disagree
@stephenleskow7959
@stephenleskow7959 Год назад
I came across this video randomly, and actually stayed to watch the whole thing. Good job.
@davemieze9021
@davemieze9021 11 месяцев назад
This was fantastic. Thank you for this.
@norwegianmountainbiker236
@norwegianmountainbiker236 2 года назад
I thought I was having a massive Deja Vu moment when I first saw this
@andreagiagnorio5775
@andreagiagnorio5775 2 года назад
Don't forget that in a race moderna F1 doesn't refuel It means 1 minute ahead at the end
@ramstutorial8894
@ramstutorial8894 6 месяцев назад
the commentary, the realism of this game, the sounds, its incredible
@akaraven66
@akaraven66 Год назад
My first time going to the Australian GP was the last year they had the V10's, when they were quite possibly the fastest the cars have ever been and until the new cars come out when they plan to be smaller and lighter nothing will be as fast, but that's just simply due to how much power those V10's had.
@salvadorfonsecahernandez3313
Current V6 are more powerful
@danieldm5705
@danieldm5705 Год назад
I'd love to see a v10 with their sound, size and weight with slicks and updated aero. A car like that could break lap records!
@yese2769
@yese2769 8 месяцев назад
If they were more fuel economic I would love it but this may sound stupid but I’m slightly worried about global warming and v10s just dump fuel like no tomorrow
@dashforcash6555
@dashforcash6555 8 месяцев назад
​@yese2769 global warming lmfao. Pay more taxes, and it will go away.
@garzi93it
@garzi93it 2 года назад
It would be interesting to see on any track where there haven't been changes (or even on a single curve which hasn't been changed) how pilots have changed their lines through different eras.
@morgan21.12
@morgan21.12 5 месяцев назад
Imagine seeing a lineup with all those different era f1 cars that would be an amazing race
@deankaiser4665
@deankaiser4665 Год назад
Nice Video! And asked a great question to begin with!
@plasmasir9381
@plasmasir9381 2 года назад
Man chose the only track the V6s arent faster at 😂😂😂
@zygbeee8563
@zygbeee8563 2 года назад
It pains me so much
@theodorechatzis7881
@theodorechatzis7881 2 года назад
Well, they should be, it's a track full of straight and the V6s have drs while the V10s don't, so why are you complaining
@vl3005
@vl3005 2 года назад
@@theodorechatzis7881 drs only brings them up to the older cars level, the rest of the time they're bombarded with drag due to higher weight and bigger dimensions and wrong aero setups (pointy sticky uppy beats everywhere). Truth of the matter is, in the years to come, you'll see more electric power given to the cars. 80Kw is laughable, but still they're faster than the old cars. Imagine when they put in a bigger battery and a proper 350Kw motor for the mgu-k and mgu-h to draw from it..... These cars will do 0-200 kph in sub-4 seconds easy.
@Filholh
@Filholh 2 года назад
Great video!! Would like to see Williams FW14B and Mclaren's MP4/4 on the grid.
@Jetkillr
@Jetkillr 2 года назад
It's a huge fail to not have these on the grid. Especially the active suspension Williams seeing as that car is considered the peak of F1 car performance (meaning they had to start intentionally slowing down cars at that point).
@MiyuruWeerarathna
@MiyuruWeerarathna Год назад
Very enjoyable vid. Subbed.
@LokiBeckonswow
@LokiBeckonswow Год назад
bro the kimi memes killed me, beautiful video
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 2 года назад
now imagine a 3L v10 designed with the latest materials and knowledge, with electric motors, modern aero and modern rubber...
@mikkolappalainen_
@mikkolappalainen_ 2 года назад
They need to do it, every one would love it but shm that they wont.
@senor_mezclador
@senor_mezclador 2 года назад
Not sure on the decapitator/sans amp type radio vocal with the on boards Ermin... maybe slightly too far for me but good on you for trying something new and different. Great content as always buddy 🤘🏻
@jakegargiulo5101
@jakegargiulo5101 2 года назад
Hahaha the way you had the Kimi radio parts was so good.
@gabrielramos
@gabrielramos Год назад
those Kimi's radios made me laugh through the whole video, well done lol
@justadummy8076
@justadummy8076 2 года назад
This would have been cooler with the fastest cars from each generation
@epistte
@epistte 2 года назад
They needed to have a Brabham BMW turbo BT-52.
@highoctanegames
@highoctanegames 2 года назад
Id love to see a race between the fastest modern F1 car, the fastest V10 F1 car and one of those 1300+ hp F1 cars in real life
@goyolake
@goyolake Год назад
It would be fun but they'd get absolutely smashed by the modern F1 cars
@highoctanegames
@highoctanegames Год назад
@@goyolake true true
@highoctanegames
@highoctanegames Год назад
@@goyolake However the f2004 with slicks would be interesting against modern f1
@amandipuppal2191
@amandipuppal2191 6 месяцев назад
Ah the sweet sound of a v10 going full chat, humming at 18,000 rpm. I was so lucky to have watched and heard them b4 they were replaced by the v8 followed by the v6 turbos
@hanisahma7456
@hanisahma7456 Год назад
The 'Screaming' of those V10s Awesome
@DbitDerald
@DbitDerald 2 года назад
We need the 2022 cars added to this, I would love to see the speed difference
@SFH_Jenkins
@SFH_Jenkins 2 года назад
Wait wtf, haven't i seen this video before? I feel like I've seen this video before
@espenbaklid3178
@espenbaklid3178 Год назад
Nice video, and nice detail of choosing Ridge Racer Type 4 music in the end. I know it's stressful to drive and observe at the same time, but you can improve on your skill of identifying cars lol
@alixvandurand
@alixvandurand 5 месяцев назад
Oh my god, kimi's radio absolutely made this video for me. Laughed my ass off at that.
@EdisonDiesel
@EdisonDiesel 2 года назад
Should've done this on spa or something. This just measures straight line prowess
@marso70
@marso70 Год назад
This was better watching than most of the current races on TV. I mourn the glorious V10 sound
@whatyoudo9773
@whatyoudo9773 Год назад
good choice for this vid, interesting setup would like to see a match with just modern with 5 or so older F1 but not the ancient ones to clog up the track and put it on a tight track
@TheeBucketMan
@TheeBucketMan Год назад
Kimi literally made the video for me haha the true cherry on top mate 👌
@chrisst8922
@chrisst8922 2 года назад
Asking the right question is sometimes the toughest job and this one's a good'en. What about: Will ground effect really let the 2022 cars pass each other?
@thesciencesphere4273
@thesciencesphere4273 2 года назад
I hope you've watched the Bahrain GP last weekend, you wouldn't be disappointed!
@chrisst8922
@chrisst8922 2 года назад
@@thesciencesphere4273 I did and I was disappointed. Given that there was clearly unreliability and uncertainty, what I didn't hear was 'Well the amount of overtaking has increased massively'. I heard about someone needing 'the tow' and I heard about tyre degredation and even 'don't push them on the outlap'. Mostly same old same old. But it's early days.
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