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@royalcat10
@royalcat10 5 лет назад
To be totally honest, you guys were far overthinking it when it comes to getting a good string gauge. Remember that when you get to B standard, you are now down a perfect 4th. In other words, the strings will start to repeat themselves from E standard. (BEADF# B; EADGBE) This means, if you want a good, comfortable string gauge for most of your strings, just use the same strings you did before for that pitch. For example, if you like 10s, just use 10s and throw out the high E string. X-46-36-26-17-13. (Maybe a gauge or two up for the "G" to compensate for the interval change.) You've now found 5/6 comfortable strings. Now to find the last, I would start with 56 and go up as needed. (a 56 + the previously mentioned strings is quite literally just a typical set of 13s.) Coincidentally, you guys were right on the money for what you wanted though. A 60 gauge string tuned to B is almost *exactly* the same tension as a 46 gauge string tuned to E. If you do it this way, your guitars will be almost indiscernible in terms of tension feel. Intonation and other things you guys mentioned will still take effort, though.
@stephanemelo
@stephanemelo 5 лет назад
20:18 / 22:15 : cool single tap lick. 20:20 / 22:15 : Proud smile. The captain never ceases to amaze, even himself.
@ThaoAustin
@ThaoAustin 4 года назад
The John Mayer lick
@PulledPurk
@PulledPurk 4 года назад
lol thats the "I hope everyone saw that" face
@montlejohnbojangles8937
@montlejohnbojangles8937 5 лет назад
6:56 - The Captain retunes to Drop-Z, begins his new metal career.
@michaelftekol
@michaelftekol 4 года назад
Lol 😁
@phnelson033
@phnelson033 4 года назад
Torche uses a detuned bottom string to a similar end...called their "bomb" tuning. Then their A string is in drop-A and so forth.
@damiencrow8338
@damiencrow8338 5 лет назад
It should be noted if your sharp. You move the saddle away from the neck.. not toward.
@dantesaliba8533
@dantesaliba8533 5 лет назад
follow the needle as fluff put it
@brainstewX
@brainstewX 5 лет назад
You're*
@papacoulsy
@papacoulsy 4 года назад
brainstewX genuinely hilarious
@hanithehimbo3382
@hanithehimbo3382 4 года назад
@@dantesaliba8533 that's exactly what I was thinking
@jerrymorganjr
@jerrymorganjr 5 лет назад
Choon your guitar. I like lower chooning.
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 4 года назад
I have a dog named Choon
@SoChilledOutGuy
@SoChilledOutGuy 4 года назад
But don’t scoop yer mids or ya won’t be haired
@davidjohnsen3245
@davidjohnsen3245 4 года назад
Mmm choon that butter gud.
@earlycuyler2295
@earlycuyler2295 4 года назад
I like that choon
@phantomechelon3628
@phantomechelon3628 4 года назад
I like hevvy choonz.
@PeterDad60
@PeterDad60 4 года назад
8:31 "If it's sharp then it's too long". When In reality If it's sharp then it's too short, but they both said "if it's sharp then it's too long and has to go the other way". C'mon guy's you are making a living selling guitars and you get thus wrong? Think "violin" (short sting length/short scale length) = high pitch "Double bass" (long string length/long scale length) = low pitch. Having learned that you shall never get it wrong again! -Peter
@valebliz
@valebliz 4 года назад
Yep, that was a bit cringe. It's even very logical: shorter string = go to sharp, longer string = go to flat.
@tak8481
@tak8481 3 года назад
These dudes are hacks. They're boring salesmen with very basic knowledge and inflated egos. Of course you're gonna hear dumb shit like that.
@PeterDad60
@PeterDad60 3 года назад
@@tak8481 The captain is nice but dumb as a rock. Well maybe not that dumb.
@TheEchelon
@TheEchelon 2 года назад
@@valebliz Not really that logical: elongating the string means pulling harder. When there's more tension it's higher, no? I know that's not correct in this application, but that's one way people could see it.
@TheEchelon
@TheEchelon 2 года назад
@@tak8481 And you sound like a lovely person yourself... You're literally judging that based on that one mistake? You're not making yourself look better if you're shitting on others.
@lyonsson6480
@lyonsson6480 4 года назад
I did this with my Yamaha Pacifica. Used 13/62 D’Addario strings. Intonation was a small issue on the low B string, I had to cut the spring shorter on the intonation screw for that string. I tuned it B, F#, D, A, E, B. Plays great! I swapped out the cheap single coil pickups for some cheapish lipstick pickups. Love it!
@HerrMeier007
@HerrMeier007 5 лет назад
That little smile after Lee played that Mayer lick. He was like "See what I just did there?" :D
@JamieClark
@JamieClark 5 лет назад
what song is it from? I didn't get the reference (I saw that he looked quite proud, though haha)
@HerrMeier007
@HerrMeier007 5 лет назад
@@JamieClark I guess I just feel like
@derykwilson139
@derykwilson139 5 лет назад
@@JamieClark it is just a john mayer habit, the pre bending tapping slide. not sure what you call it but Mayer does it often in solos. Check vultures and gravity solos from Live in LA
@connor3030
@connor3030 5 лет назад
Mayer lick at 6:58
@whobian123
@whobian123 5 лет назад
Where tho?
@AndreiGrozea
@AndreiGrozea 4 года назад
Bill Steer of Carcass would say so, he's still playing a Gibson melody maker in B standard
@faboolean7039
@faboolean7039 5 лет назад
That g&l sounds like the kyuss guitar tone
@EpicStuffMan1000
@EpicStuffMan1000 5 лет назад
possibly the biggest tone ever
@euronam798
@euronam798 5 лет назад
Matt in sleep has that title by miles.
@reQuiem249
@reQuiem249 5 лет назад
with single coils you get the thickest tone out of low tunings imo
@gavinw8835
@gavinw8835 5 лет назад
It's cause they tuned to C and used standard guitars. The "floppyish" sound combined with a neck pickup and a fuzz is just beautiful.
@brpadington
@brpadington 4 года назад
I used to tune my Flying V down to baritone tunings from time to time. It has a tune -a-matic bridge on it and it worked fine. They picked the most difficult type of guitar to do this on.
@brpadington
@brpadington 4 года назад
@Bryan De La Pera That isn't true. The modern ones have a pretty decent range.
5 лет назад
Love how Capt plays the funny new tap thingy and looks at everybody in the room like "Who's the cool cat now?".
@0pyrophosphate0
@0pyrophosphate0 5 лет назад
I can't imagine tuning to C and not playing the opening riff from Dragonaut by Sleep.
@retrorewind6042
@retrorewind6042 5 лет назад
Sleep slaps hard
@spekenbonen72
@spekenbonen72 4 года назад
Endorsing this post.
@birdsaresinners3373
@birdsaresinners3373 4 года назад
Neon
@BibleStorm
@BibleStorm 4 года назад
Ride the dragon tward the crimson sky
@jacoby8208
@jacoby8208 3 года назад
Always my go to riff for trying anything
@fatboysgarage7984
@fatboysgarage7984 3 года назад
I used 62-12 on my Soloist. Didn't have to touch my intonation at all. I've got it in standard tuning and it plays really well. All I had to do was file the nut down a little and it sounds amazing.
@Bognerman14
@Bognerman14 2 года назад
Me as well - I set my Gibsons and PRS singlecuts in drop C and B with heavier strings and slightly widening the nut slots intonation was fine and the bridge in general had no issues.
@proudbrogressive315
@proudbrogressive315 5 месяцев назад
I use Ernie Ball mammoth slinky on a Les Paul without any issue. It feels like a set of 10s in standard. Hell, I can drop A with said set without much issues.
@plasticoflamingo2952
@plasticoflamingo2952 5 лет назад
Out of all the freeform jams on Anderton's, Chappers & The Captain do the best. Just a couple of old friends hanging out, rocking out, together. So relatable. And so good. Cheers, mates.
@dominikrejmak6926
@dominikrejmak6926 5 лет назад
I got that PRS almost 2 years ago and have recently swapped pickups for SD Blackouts and I must say, it sounds killer! And when it comes to tuning "normal" guitar to baritone tunings, I equipped my LP with 12-72 gauge strings and it does its job, feels comfortable to play and isn't floppy.
@mahmoudeledrissi7234
@mahmoudeledrissi7234 5 лет назад
For me rob is king amazing person on electric... and captain too. Love your videos guys
@sneeringimperialist340
@sneeringimperialist340 5 лет назад
You can totally tune a guitar with a standard scale length down to B standard. A lot of metal bands tune down that low or lower with only standard scale lengths, although you'd be better off going for a 26-26.5 inch scale guitar. Most baritone guitars the days actually seem to be tuned down by an entire octave, and often have a scale length more comparable to that of a short scale bass. A lot of people will also simply use a 7 string to reach that low B, which also tend to have longer scale lengths.
@proudbrogressive315
@proudbrogressive315 5 месяцев назад
Baritone tuned standard scale guitars are common in death metal. Can confirm.
@Leo_ofRedKeep
@Leo_ofRedKeep 5 лет назад
7:00 So Lee just invented Fjent, which is short for Flop Djent and sounds just like… well, you heard it ;-)
@ZeugmaP
@ZeugmaP 5 лет назад
Lol that word reminds me of "fiente" which is the French word for bird crap
@Leo_ofRedKeep
@Leo_ofRedKeep 5 лет назад
Oh no, someone had to explain it ;-(
@lowrising8130
@lowrising8130 5 лет назад
sounded just like Djent to me lol
@omgvague
@omgvague 5 лет назад
Chords are now renamed to Fjords
@gimmedataids
@gimmedataids 4 года назад
@@ZeugmaP you guys talk about bird crap a lot?
@Mulgy
@Mulgy 5 лет назад
Damn Lee is sounding better every video, and that tuning really fits his playing, damn good!!
@thibaultvandenbogaerde1504
@thibaultvandenbogaerde1504 5 лет назад
Yeah I also noticed he's improving a lot. He's doing a great job.
@thegoodguy44
@thegoodguy44 5 лет назад
He sounds terrible. You have no ear for music.
@thibaultvandenbogaerde1504
@thibaultvandenbogaerde1504 5 лет назад
@@thegoodguy44 And you have no respect for music.
@howbuttish1016
@howbuttish1016 5 лет назад
@@thegoodguy44 you're a shithead
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 5 лет назад
Damn this comment section turned quickly
@xjesusxchristx
@xjesusxchristx 4 года назад
You guys seem to miss a few important notes. First, Type O Negative used B tuning, on standard 6 string guitars(and 4 string bass). They didn't use necessarily uncommonly large strings. They aren't the only ones to have done so, but they are probably the most notable. I myself have used B tuning on normal 6 strings since I was 12, and I'm 39 now. It wasn't comm9n enough yet, and we lacked internet, so using heavier string gauges didn't occur to me. I ended up just using my normal 9s through 42s. What I've learned is this. You do not necessarily need heavier gauge strings. Some guitars are more forgiving for this, and interestingly, it's various strats, and strat knock offs, that seem to like low tuning with lighter strings best. Sometimes a guitar might not like the 9s, but never had an issue with 10s. That flabby feel is something you get used to, and it becomes second nature to have a lighter touch for the tuning with said strings. The feel even becomes desirable, and part of the sound(sounds bad ass with distortion. For proof, check out any Type O song). Fast playing, and flourishes such as trills, hammer/pulls, slides, pick scrapes, vibrato, ect all become easier with a light touch. Tapping not as much, as sting tension helps with the repeated hammer/pulls. As an adult, I've used baritones, and 7 strings - and I'll always love a detuned 6 with light gauge. It becomes a different animal, with it's own characteristics, which just adds another tool or varriation to your arsenal. So have a baritone, and a 7 - but don't rule out a detuned 6. Just treat it as another option. Most people knocking it, or not seeing it's value, haven't actually spent time with it. You have to grow accustomed to it before you can really judge if it's for you, or not.
@KristianSimov
@KristianSimov 3 года назад
I agree, well put. Also this applies to acoustic because I have played around with B standrad on a normal scale acoustic (trying to make my own baritone guitar) with .11 - .52 and also even starting from .10 and like you said its way different than thicker strings and longer scale - the strings are a bit looser and the feel is actually great imo and allows for easier and cooler techinques like bends and slides especially plus they vibrate more. Just like you said its the same on electric. Even more, it gives a whole new sound to the B tuning because the same tune with thicker strings and longer scale is different, more muffled and bassy. And about tapping - yes tension helps with it but imo thinner strings do too - they kinda compensate somewhat for not having as much tension at least in my exp. In addition I want to mention that swedish melodic death metal band Amon Amarth who also play in B to B baritone tune use standard gibson explorers with normal scale length of 25.5 and they use daddario baritone strings. So they too play on looser strings but it works great, helps playability especially bends, vibrato, fast playing and their songs are great :) All in all I found your comment to be spot on with my experience. Gotta love downtuning 6 strings ment for standard to D, C, B or Drop C, Drop B, Drop A even acoustics, its just something else :D
@xjesusxchristx
@xjesusxchristx 3 года назад
@@KristianSimov in my experience, anything you can do on electric, you can do on acoustic(I mean, in regards to the topic at hand). My compositions often have clean parts, and I almost always use acoustics for clean parts.
@deshondetoro1638
@deshondetoro1638 2 года назад
Same, I use regular thin strings I B standard and it sounds awesome
@starflyer4660
@starflyer4660 Год назад
Guitar players just need to get their guitar the way they like it. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. :-)
@TheInfiniteFret
@TheInfiniteFret Год назад
@@starflyer4660 Agreed. This whole thread is highly subjective. Having done the standard scale length baritone conversion on several guitars, I can say that it will take some trial and error to get the sound you are going for. Then there is a high probability of needing to do some setup work. It is hard to believe that a completely different string guage would have optimal action and intonation without a setup. The conversion can definitely be done on any guitar if you have the patience. I've found the low E usually requires some nut work. I don't get the nut filed right away though. I wait for several months to make sure I don't change my mind =)
@phantomechelon3628
@phantomechelon3628 4 года назад
Wow. Nut, string, tuning and intonation issues aside, this was another great demonstration of how well you guys play together. Really liking Lee's lead playing on this one.
@jessegaronband
@jessegaronband 5 лет назад
Baritone falls between and overlaps both bass and tenor frequencies. String gauge solution.,. Take a bead off of a bass string, Slide the low-e guitar string through the bead before installing in the Bridge. Essentially creating a stop bead for the string (shim)- Peace
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 5 лет назад
Didnt ariel say he uses like 17's or 19 gauge strings? Well, now you know why Ariel and Joey play custom built guitars 😆
@KaiDown
@KaiDown 5 лет назад
To anyone trying to change tuning but keep the same string tension that they're used to, Winspear Instrumental has a fantastic calculator on their site. Also, Rob's absolutely correct. A .046 will have the same tension in E as a .061 in B
@Module79L
@Module79L 5 лет назад
There's an easier solution, one that doesn't compromise string tension: use a 7-string set without the high E. You'll get B to B tuning with the right tension, every string will be tuned to the note it was built for and you won't have that nut problem with the thicker string if you use, for instance, a 009 7-string set: it will become 011-054, where the low B string is thinner than the low E string you were using, but it won't become floppy because you're not downtuning it. The only change you'd have to do compared with a 7-string guitar is to tune the 3rd string to F# instead of G (and probably get used to have a wound 3rd string). I don't know why you guys didn't think about this in the first place. : )
@lohikarmi235
@lohikarmi235 4 года назад
I have done this to a kit guitar I built some time ago (was a cheap Harley Benton Strat Kit). It worked like a charm (just had to go back to the original tuners for the low B string because it was too thick for the new Tuners (Kluson locking tuners have holes that are too small)
@KatonAdamsFitrianto
@KatonAdamsFitrianto 3 года назад
yea it works on my guitar too (Radix Zetta Explorer). been using it for 3 months.
@DanteLikesRock
@DanteLikesRock 2 года назад
yeah but the point of the video was can a NORMAL guitar play baritone tuning, not a 7-string which obviously can.
@danieltober8574
@danieltober8574 2 года назад
@@DanteLikesRock that's not what he's saying, he means buy a 7 string set of strings but don't use the highest string. put those strings on your normal guitar
@DanteLikesRock
@DanteLikesRock 2 года назад
@@danieltober8574 ah, I see now
@taliesintenerelli8510
@taliesintenerelli8510 5 лет назад
Lee ur playing is really improving!! Sounds great!! Also great vid as usual!!!
@Sigourneyweaversboobs
@Sigourneyweaversboobs 5 лет назад
Gawd! Rob and Lee always killing it on the jams! Inspires me to play so much! Just 2 friends Jammin!
@drakescorton
@drakescorton 5 лет назад
I myself have successfully converted a 25.5" scale length Telecaster to a baritone by way of a really simple solution: using medium-light acoustic guitar strings. The tension in acoustic strings is significantly higher, and they can handle being detuned to B-b without issue (at least for me). I can even drop the top B to A without consequence. If you ever make a follow-up video, try this method.
@verrysmusic
@verrysmusic Год назад
Excellent and fun video guys!! I have a Squier and decided to turn it into a baritone guitar to record my new album, initially i had many issues with intonation and stability in general so i decided to put on Ernie Ball 13-70 for baritone and they work like a charm. Im in drop A, but the thing i had to do is to move the bridge (not just the saddles but the entire piece) back a bit to compensate the intonation. Other than that, no other modifications were required. Thanks for the video and info!!
@risteardohaodha23
@risteardohaodha23 Год назад
What model of Squire did you modify?
@verrysmusic
@verrysmusic Год назад
@@risteardohaodha23 Its A Squire Strat crafted in China, not much more info than that. Cheers!!
@ej1_drew
@ej1_drew 7 месяцев назад
that's pretty clever! how much did you end up moving the bridge (in millimeters)?? im thinking of just modifying the saddles to make them shorter.
@verrysmusic
@verrysmusic 7 месяцев назад
@@ej1_drew hey! i would say about 5-6 millimeters from the center of the old screw holes to the center of the new ones. Modifying saddles is also an good and smart option. Cheers!
@Mattiasljung
@Mattiasljung 5 лет назад
@20:19 Almost! Great video and The captains has improved a lot lately
@dansands6363
@dansands6363 5 лет назад
Lee doing that John Mayer lick at 20:21 put a huge smile on my face!
@thomblack736
@thomblack736 5 лет назад
I play stoner/doom in c standard with 10s on a strat. Sounds and feelings amazing when set up properly. Flappy is good
@lukaspocobene2661
@lukaspocobene2661 5 лет назад
The Captains mug is an clear representation of true love
@adamcogan211
@adamcogan211 5 лет назад
Holy hell, Lee’s bend at 20:20! Pure bliss!
@sebastianburgos2492
@sebastianburgos2492 5 лет назад
Greetings from latinamerica! I can said with all my little experience in this world, Anderton's is one of the best RU-vid channels. Also, incredible "Hola" from the Captain haha
@lukewilliams1925
@lukewilliams1925 5 лет назад
RC nearly let slip the new Rabea Baritone in the more affordable range....... that's my guess 😉
@princeoinkins8408
@princeoinkins8408 5 лет назад
I think it’s still gonna be pro range though
@jadenrrose
@jadenrrose 5 лет назад
I'm really hoping we can pick one up for around $1000. It will absolutely be my next purchase!
@lukewilliams1925
@lukewilliams1925 5 лет назад
@@princeoinkins8408 I dunno man. There's been a fair few hints to it being in the "budget/cheaper" range. If they're able to get it to a good price, I can see it being a MASSSSSSIVE seller.
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 5 лет назад
@@jadenrrose the current one is not much more than that I think, maybe 1200 or 1300 in €. I think the new budget one will be somewhere between 600-800
@mariusvermin
@mariusvermin 5 лет назад
That g&l nut looks like it's been cut with a spoon.
@MK4vDubbin
@MK4vDubbin 5 лет назад
My opinion of G&L has been soured even though a lot of people seem to rave about them. I bought a US made Legacy at the end of last year, brand new from a very reputable store. The QC was astonishingly horrible. It was a piece of shit to be honest and I sent it back.
@retrorewind6042
@retrorewind6042 5 лет назад
@@avivkestin7103 tell that to my japanese ibanez. Ive played usa jacksons that were meh
@ulrathblr2343
@ulrathblr2343 5 лет назад
@@avivkestin7103 well, many epis feel better than many gibsons...
@larrywharf1583
@larrywharf1583 5 лет назад
@@avivkestin7103 - In the end it's all a matter of choice. I'm a convert. Give me an Epiphone any day of the week.
@mindstorms44
@mindstorms44 5 лет назад
@@avivkestin7103 Ha Ha, Good one..........I think the master builders of Europe with 400 + years experience might have somthing to say about that!
@ajaykumargoel9398
@ajaykumargoel9398 5 лет назад
You guys sound super great as usual!!!
@SteelSkin667
@SteelSkin667 5 лет назад
I don't own a baritone, but I use D'addario's 13-62 set for tuning to B on a standard guitar. It's basically a 10 gauge 7-string set minus the 10 gauge high E, so it really feels correct compared to a set of 10s in standard E. The real issue though is that, as mentioned in the video, some guitars (thankfully not all) won't intonate properly. Caparison used to make "HGS" versions of their guitars with the bridge located a few mm further back to solve that problem.
@JonathanCooperGB
@JonathanCooperGB 5 лет назад
Awesome, only just spotted the Captain's mug on his mug with Mayer!
@Ritchie2324
@Ritchie2324 5 лет назад
Whom ever did the editing ..and took ALL the acid... well done🌟. This twas awesome xx 🤘🏼
@lesolivierdelamort4134
@lesolivierdelamort4134 5 лет назад
2:54 ^^
@pookievanderbilt6889
@pookievanderbilt6889 5 лет назад
100% Allen. That’s why I came to the comments. Lee has come a long way with his solo playing. So fun to watch him in each video get better. Really fun stuff
@RahulBasu6886
@RahulBasu6886 5 лет назад
This was THE VIDEO I've been waiting for. Have an old faithful 6 string which isn't getting an awful lot of love of late.. this could be just the thing!
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 5 лет назад
Will the cut G&L be sold as B-stock (as in Baritone)?
@kiltymacbagpipe
@kiltymacbagpipe 5 лет назад
I think I watch these videos for the editing as much as anything these days.
@ArcienPlaysGames
@ArcienPlaysGames 9 месяцев назад
4:33 Guitar and technical stuff aside, the editting throughout this video is impeccable
@derykstearns
@derykstearns 5 лет назад
You guys should DO A VIDEO about Mono vs Stereo amps and effects. Use Strymon pedals like the timeline, Bigsky, and Mobius and tell us all about the benefits and drawbacks of Stereo!
@Oilid
@Oilid 5 лет назад
So funny! Hats off to Captain for creating the next level djent!!!!
@nicolaestelian-
@nicolaestelian- 5 лет назад
Amon Amarth uses gibson explorer in b standard tuning
@piotrwojtaszek4295
@piotrwojtaszek4295 5 лет назад
Yeah this vid is a fun little experiment but hardly takes the question seriously. Using a different guitar you can easily drop to A or B without extreme gauge or too much string floppiness.
@MikaLagreen
@MikaLagreen 5 лет назад
And we have always used B tuning in Grave since 1988. Never had a problem ever with regular 6 stringed guitars.
@CTSmerv
@CTSmerv 5 лет назад
I see a common tuning with bands like Mastodon as D with a dropped low A. Like having a 7 string without the #5 string.
@JasonGaskin
@JasonGaskin 5 лет назад
@@MikaLagreen Grave rules man! You guys are great!
@MikaLagreen
@MikaLagreen 5 лет назад
@@JasonGaskin thank you :)
@ez_o_nator4736
@ez_o_nator4736 4 года назад
The editing is great :)
@pedalscapes
@pedalscapes 5 лет назад
Nice Vid! Informative and fun. Lee's sense of exploration being equally balanced by Rob's expertise... Cheers!
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 5 лет назад
Where is Dr. Drew Bypass when you need a lecture on String Theory?
@livesongs82
@livesongs82 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this I really wanted to know the science
@jazzman1954
@jazzman1954 3 года назад
You didn’t get it here!
@The.ScummyMan
@The.ScummyMan Год назад
This is one of my favorites Anderton's videos.
@DRock1779
@DRock1779 5 лет назад
I use a schecter ultra vi for this purpose, it has the scale length for the heavier gauge (and comes with way heavier stock actually) but has the pickups and other features to get great tones in this range. It was designed to be a bass vi but it's really the ultimate baritone.
@jeffdavis1360
@jeffdavis1360 5 лет назад
a couple of players who use Baritone tunings on standard scale guitars: Jim Root & Jason Hook
@oleauby3852
@oleauby3852 5 лет назад
Mick thomson, bring me the horizon and bullet for my valentine as well
@proudbrogressive315
@proudbrogressive315 5 месяцев назад
Bill Steer from Carcass as well.
@kevdixon9761
@kevdixon9761 5 лет назад
Both Carcass and Type O Negative tuned to B with Ernie Ball Not Even Slinky 12-56 on regular 6 string guitars and it worked just fine. Plus I’m willing to bet Andertons sells plenty of 7 string guitars that are 25.5” so the scale length must be fine for B.
@disobey81
@disobey81 5 лет назад
It pretty much is, I haven't been lower than B on a 25.5" but it sounds great. I have a 27" and 28" respectively and they will take you as low as G without problems.. but I had to go to .68-.14 gauge minimum as stuff got flubby!
@rainbowslushy223
@rainbowslushy223 4 года назад
Type o negative used a baritone guitar
@DanteLikesRock
@DanteLikesRock 2 года назад
actually, Kenny Hickey (Type-Os guitarist) used a 26.5" scale length baritone guitar.
@kevdixon9761
@kevdixon9761 2 года назад
@@DanteLikesRock his signature Schecter may be 26.5 but he didn’t have that when he recorded type o negative albums.
@ditmarvanbelle1061
@ditmarvanbelle1061 Год назад
So... I drilled holes, filed the nut and put bass strings on my guitar. Sounds quite country and western on a single coil pickup. 't Was an old cheap Stagg worth $30 but after butchering it the way I have, it's honestly surprisingly good haha!
@_RLP
@_RLP 5 лет назад
Cool sounds, guys. Pretty dope.
@seqouiaflame
@seqouiaflame 5 лет назад
I use not even slinky on my Les Paul dropped to C standard and it sounds killer!!
@blairmillward8408
@blairmillward8408 5 лет назад
The RG970XL needs to be reissued, it's perfection.
@alexwalker67
@alexwalker67 5 лет назад
I have an old Burns Marquee I did this to. It has the biggest neck I've ever held on it and it worked a treat. Growly, dark and mean. It's great.
@thistlesandwich
@thistlesandwich 5 лет назад
I added extra springs in the back of my squier strat, set it up with 11-54s, tuned to C# standard, and it sounds wicked
@fluffytoaster427
@fluffytoaster427 5 лет назад
I’d pay for a Captain EP that had songs in C Standard
@EthanTheMighty
@EthanTheMighty 5 лет назад
if it's sharp you move back the bridge away from the neck.... y'all did the opposite
@amypeters4025
@amypeters4025 5 лет назад
That's what I thought too, they totally had me questioning myself on that one!
@lewisbulled6764
@lewisbulled6764 5 лет назад
Exactly! Flat forwards, sharp backwards.
@BoozyBeggar
@BoozyBeggar 5 лет назад
I cannot believe they did that. Watch Lee turn the screwdriver even, he goes lefty loosey.
@redlined4493
@redlined4493 4 года назад
That is incorrect... You need to chase the needle so to speak.
@tygrbyt3684
@tygrbyt3684 3 года назад
Real hero here is Gav the tech. great to hear he's still with anderson's
@deshondetoro1638
@deshondetoro1638 2 года назад
I tune to B standard on regular thin strings on my schector-demon and it holds and plays awesome. Got a death gripping sound to it. I don't see why people think they have to put heavier strings on? Heavier strings sound sluggish, thinner strings hold very well and still feels and sounds like a guitar and not a bass
@matheusmoreiradearaujo3267
@matheusmoreiradearaujo3267 5 лет назад
20:20 the captain channels his inner Mayer!
@majorbalna
@majorbalna 5 лет назад
and then he looks around the room like "did y'all see that"?!
@goyatley
@goyatley 5 лет назад
I had the same stringing issue with a genuine Eastwood Sidejack Baritone. String was too thick to go through the bridge. You'd think they thought that through, no?
@unchien2069
@unchien2069 5 лет назад
the edits on this video were just hilarious. Bravo to whoever edited this video
@starflyer4660
@starflyer4660 Год назад
Brilliant! I did this to my strat a long time ago. Sounds kill er in C.
@VXTfour
@VXTfour 5 лет назад
My personal setup is: Drop C - 12, 16, 20, 34, 46, 60 (25.5 inch) Drop A - 13, 17, 30, 42, 54, 74 (both 25.5 and 24.75 scale) All NYXL (they feel less stiff for some reason) and at this gauge I can hit em pretty hard and they don't detune. Good for the chugs.
@lasvegasira
@lasvegasira 5 лет назад
If the 12th fret is sharp during intonation, the saddle needs to be moved toward the heel of the guitar, not toward the neck.
@anime5h_m1shr4
@anime5h_m1shr4 2 года назад
Exactly, can't believe they got that wrong in the video!
@alexanderharmer925
@alexanderharmer925 5 лет назад
Love the Rob and Pete meeting John Mayer mug!
@michaelambrosia
@michaelambrosia 3 месяца назад
Thank you gentlemen
@Ulfstigandr
@Ulfstigandr 5 лет назад
Amon Amarth has been playin in B on Explorer Standards for years
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad. 5 лет назад
for reals they got me doing it on all mine
@BoozyBeggar
@BoozyBeggar 5 лет назад
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@robinweber6618
@robinweber6618 5 лет назад
@@BoozyBeggar pursuit of vikings? 😄
@BoozyBeggar
@BoozyBeggar 5 лет назад
@@robinweber6618 Yeah. Funny how distinctive those riffs are.
@Lavabug
@Lavabug 5 лет назад
Metal bands have been tuning standard scale instruments to B and lower for decades. Cathedral, Nile, Carcass... all play Gibson scales in B. I tune my even shorter 24 5/8" scale mockingbird to B and A with 13-59 strings, it can be done and fully intonated right if you have a good bridge with enough range on the saddles.
@RobDogzInc
@RobDogzInc 3 года назад
Now my question is did you have to file your nut to accommodate those bigger strings? And also did you change the truss rod? What if you want to go back to smaller strings and the nut is too wide for the new strings
@HelpingHandAlias
@HelpingHandAlias 3 года назад
@@RobDogzInc Replace the nut or keep it as a baritone.
@thmmke6926
@thmmke6926 5 лет назад
its nice seeing rob laughing relaxed and happy,
@phigrecon
@phigrecon 5 лет назад
I've done it to my strat with vintage bridge and it works, no issues with saddles and truss rod adjustments. strings used ernie ball 12-56.
@RandomUser179
@RandomUser179 4 года назад
Bill Steer of Carcass uses a Les Paul in B standard tuning on stage.
@jbag3408
@jbag3408 4 года назад
Furthermore a Les paul JR with a Dogear pickup on some smaller occasions.
@saintluciaofficial2019
@saintluciaofficial2019 3 года назад
He's been doing so for over 30 years now. Still sounds great too. It's literally all about preference.
@ashenoneswe
@ashenoneswe 5 лет назад
Most 7 string guitars have 25,5 inch scale, so just use the first 6 strings of a 7 string set and you'll get the right tension and feel, its not rocket science.
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 5 лет назад
You''d think the bloke on the left who owns his own guitar company would know this. You can get drop G, maybe even F# to work, then you start needing 26.5" - 27".
@emmanieuwenhuis2688
@emmanieuwenhuis2688 5 лет назад
A lot of seven string guitars are actually 26,5 scale. Some even 27. Eight string are usually 27 or 28. This is just my experience.
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 5 лет назад
Just out of interest I tried this on the Thomann website (since they have a fairly large selection and great tools for filtering the results), and I got 88 7-string guitars with a scale length of 647mm or 648mm, vs. 168 7-string guitars overall. So slightly over half, meaning that "most" 7-string guitars sold on Thomann are in deed 25.5" scale. =)
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 5 лет назад
@@DapperHesher The bloke on the right owns half of that same company too. =)
@thewrapstudio
@thewrapstudio 4 года назад
This response should be pinned.
@kazaakas
@kazaakas 5 лет назад
IN metal baritone guitars are quite rare for the amount of B and C tunings you see. Amon Amarth and Kyuss come to mind, but there must be many more. Have been doing it forever.
@antonwilding9744
@antonwilding9744 2 года назад
You guys are nuts hahahaha loved that video !
@elmostachojuanoh
@elmostachojuanoh 5 лет назад
7:00 finally Korn went back to their original early sound
@garethlewis4586
@garethlewis4586 4 года назад
8:14 RC says the minimum would be 60 gauge for the low string. While this may well be arguable, both Bill Steer (Carcass) and Rob Barrett (Cannibal Corpse) have used no heavier than 56 for low B and Bb tuning respectively. It's horses for courses and personal preference obviously but seems like an dull statement to me
@BenDover-bt5sm
@BenDover-bt5sm 4 года назад
Gareth Lewis I play in B and use Not Even Slinky’s, the tension is fine and I never have problems with tuning. So I totally agree that it is a dull statement
@darktempest53
@darktempest53 5 лет назад
12, 16, 30, 42, 52, 68 in B standard on 25.5" scale. Perfect
@KyleSevenoaks
@KyleSevenoaks 5 лет назад
I have an ML3-RC tuned baritone with 10-56 strings, I like a relly soft touch and that guitar handles it amazingly well.
@edb3366
@edb3366 5 лет назад
12-60 on a 27" scale six string for B standard. 10-48 + a 60 for 26.6" scale 7 string for Standard tuning.
@shanscoffeetime2770
@shanscoffeetime2770 5 лет назад
ahahah cap's coffee mug with JM selfie lol
@bartekbanys2254
@bartekbanys2254 5 лет назад
I am tuning Chapman Baritone Ml3(Red Beauty) to drop F and it's doom machine, stone rock, sludge killer. Lots of fun with this baritone, diffrent tunings. When i start playing guitar like about 25 years ago did the same with normal guitar and bass strings😂. Now i waiting for reverend baritone midnight Black it has shorter scale than Chapman anyway buy and try....
@nicgundy
@nicgundy 5 лет назад
A. I love the NYXL 12-60 set!!! B. I've used my electrics (standard scale) in baritone tuning for years with experimenting different heavy sets that give stability. I love my Jazzmaster Baritone for songwriter stuff but I still use my regulars for the heavier project. Although I'm planning on getting a baritone neck from Warmoth in the near future for my LTD
@joshuamessenger
@joshuamessenger 5 лет назад
I knew a guy who played in Drop A# on his ESP M-series guitar with regular 10-gauge strings. His band was signed to Metal Blade. I still have no idea how he made it work.
@proudbrogressive315
@proudbrogressive315 4 месяца назад
Play with gentle touch. Aggressive strumming doesn't equal heavier tone. As a matter of fact, light strings have better attack over the beefier sound of heavy strings.
@emanuelecampiglia5762
@emanuelecampiglia5762 5 лет назад
9:15 "do your fisty analogy" Dead.
@ZelosPhotizo
@ZelosPhotizo 5 лет назад
I like the sound of that G&L!
@joshuanosbisch9869
@joshuanosbisch9869 5 лет назад
That editing...fantastic
@WakingUpTheTitans
@WakingUpTheTitans 5 лет назад
I have a question (to but not limited only to) for Chappers and the Captain. Can a baritone guitar be converted into a standard guitar? Like if you replace the neck with a standard scale neck and all.
@dubiousdaydream1695
@dubiousdaydream1695 5 лет назад
Depends. I have a long scale guitar where the bridge is moved back a bit for the increased scale length. But I don't know if that's usually the case
@beerman7079
@beerman7079 5 лет назад
Toni iommi uses 8s on his sg's with c# tuning how bout that
@philcollinshill2951
@philcollinshill2951 3 года назад
I've always wanted to play Tony's guitars to see how little tension he has
@adrienbqt9579
@adrienbqt9579 5 лет назад
Very good video, I own one of these PRS SE 277 too, that's a very nice guitar 👍
@marshalsea000
@marshalsea000 5 лет назад
Just bought the red one Chappers Baritone from the shop, and now the "were just about to...". You know what, wouldn't change it, thing of beauty. Thanks to Jack and Rory (sorry can't remember your spelling) for patience and listening to the weird Post rock in the basement.
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