Our lifetime of TOOL RANKINGS torquetestchannel.etsy.com The tool: amzn.to/3CRt46m Perhaps the best mid-size cordless under $200 when you have HP batteries on hand, if it lasts. But can it remove the big stuff? Let's see
@@gabehorn5079 true but i think that stuff is relevant too. Torque tests are great but they don't say much about build quality. Boltr teardowns are basically the opposite. They talk about quality and potential failures but don't give much idea of performance. He has done some break testing on wrenches and ratchets too that were fairly real world. Lots channels have good info but no one channel covers all aspects.
Yeah that's why I run a ton of Ryobi... price point and a battery line that has stayed the same more or less forever. Just need the right batteries for the newest tools.
I have a 9-year old RYOBI power toolkit on the ONE+ platform, back when they used NiCD batteries. The new lithiums are fully compatible, too, and make the older tools (drill, circular saw, hacksaw) so much more powerful than the NiCD batteries do.
@@specialopsdave Not worthy to go back to old nicad. My older blue tool works better in lithium ion battery with way more stamina and more torque with more satisfying experience.
Yeah Ryobi vibration power. Many don't know that TTI makes Milwaukee and Ryobi, that's why Milwaukee M18 Fuel and Ryobi HP High Torque Impact Wrench is the same internal design.
I'd still love to see the DeWalt XR 1/2" (and the sister MAC gun, which is supposedly stronger) formally tested on this channel. I use a DeWalt for all the trucks in the "medium duty" truck shop I work in (F-350 - F-750 and some Pierce and Freightliner trucks). It doesn't compare to our air tools, but with a battery at 2-3 bars I've never had a lugnut on one of my trucks it hasn't taken off. Thanks for the quality content!
I just got the DCF894B for like 123 shipped with coupon from NothernTool. If they could test that one compared to these, i would be ecstatic. Maybe throw in the DCF899 for comparison as well, even though its old, its the only high torque Dewalt has.
I bought this gun maybe a couple months ago on sale as a bundle at Home Depot. It came with a new type of "High performance" 4ah battery. I'm curious if that'll makes a difference in power output. Though I just saw that they've released an even stronger version of this gun that supposedly dishes out 1,170ft,lbs of torque.... Maybe I'll upgrade in a few years lol. I use it as a general mechanic. Takes lugs off and pretty much any bolt that I've come across 👍
I'm really torn between buying this P262 or continuing building the Milwaukee collection. The Ryobi would make a great home gun though since it's much cheaper overall. Then again, JDTCO has great Milwaukee deal. We're so spoiled these days as techs. Keep up the amazing content guys!
I've been using the Ryobi P262 at a garage over the last year and I really like it's performance for the $$. There is little it can't loosen. When I do encounter those sorts of rusted, overtightened bolts, a little penetrant and a breaker bar will crack them loose then the Ryobi can take over. One other tech in my shop uses one and the third is impressed enough by its everyday use that he's looking to get one too. Most powerful cordless impact? No. But for its price you can't beat it. Plus now the're coming out with a stronger model PBLIW01B claiming nearly twice the torque (1170ft-lbs breakaway/700 fastening) for $199. Hell yeah, I got my eye on it! Would love to see that beastie tested soon.
I want to see how this impact does on semi nuts with the 6 and 9 amp hour batteries. I bought this tool because of this channel’s testing- at a great deal I got 3 batteries (2ah, 4ah, and 6ah as well as a charger for $194 and the impact wrench came free! Then I got the 3/8” extended reach ratchet with a free 4 ah battery for $140 they go great with all my harbor freight sockets lol.
I like this testing. I wasn't sure if your normal rig was right, because all the guns seem so close. From my experience Aircat and IR are the best, and noticeably better than the others. (never used a Matco) It's probably the air. No one I've worked for uses regulated air.
Ryobi has a six amp hour battery, and curious if that would provide more power. I would image yes, because I have noticed a big difference between the two amp hour verses the four.
Yea they're good home tools, especially with the amount of stuff you can interchange the batteries with. Sure it'll never compare to DeWalt, but Ryobi doesn't hurt my wallet! Just bought the trimmer leaf blower combo, including a 4ah battery for like 200 bucks, and I can use that battery on my drills. Nice deal.
I'd love to see this test done for some of the air impacts. Also test this kind of loosening torque with and without adapters. To answer the question "Am I better off with a compact air impact that can get into more spaces, or a full-size electric impact that needs extensions and swivels to get into tight spaces?"
It's all about the current. Low ESR cells and low RDSon for the MOSFET's. Many of the packs have MOSFET's to shut down the cell when the voltage becomes too low, so the RDSon of the MOSFET's comes into play. They most often parallel them up to reduce this number. The cells probably have a larger impact however with a lower ESR which of course they also parallel up to reduce the ESR and increase the max current.
I like the Ryobi One+ HP 1/2" 18V Impact Wrench "PBLIW01B" High Torque with 1170 Ft-Lbs Break and 700 Ft-Lbs Fasten. Compared to the Mid Torque P262-K1 which has 600 Ft-Lbs Break/450 Ft-Lbs Fasten.
The brushed Ryobi is not good enough for simple use on cars, unless you would actually hamnmer away for 11.7 sec (in real usage you dont). The money you save on Ryobi is wasted x2 later on when you have to switch to a top tier brand anyway.
@@pflaffik What car has bolts torqued over 300 ft lbs? I just changed my rusted exhaust pipes on my 2008 subaru outback with the brushed ryobi impact and had no problem doing so. I personally wouldn't pay almost 50% more to save a couple of seconds of impacting because I don't have that kind of disposable income and my time isn't that valuable (as long as it can do the job)
@@guimauve522 Harmonic balancer/crank pulley Nuts. Which tbh isnt something a DIY'er is gonna do with an impact, when they're more than likely gonna be using a big breaker bar+pipe
Interesting because I had the ryobi P61 1/2 and it was a piece of garbage that kept shutting down while trying to remove a lug nut. From now on ridgid!! 😎👍
A lug nut is a lug nut. Even with it being bigger it’d be just as easy with the hammer of the impact hitting the bigger heavier socket which means more energy
Love the content from you guys, any chance you could test the dewalt dcf899 1/2 inch gun? I just ordered one due to now its been around a for so long you can get it at a great price, i just paid under £140 for one (bare unit). It seems by the claimed numbers to be great value.
The proboem with the ryobi impact is it gets warm quick when hammered a lug like that warmer the gun gets faster the battery dies. I use my ryobi for civilian lugs and small jobs. Even on civilian vehicles it struggles to break lugs loose. Not as good as i thought it was when i first purchased it. Thats when an aircat 1150 was ordered.
Great video. When we used dewalt adapters, for the 18v to the new 20v batteries, the batteries seemed to die very quick. Have you noticed this with yours?
Maybe the protection for the battery isn't working correctly with that configuration. That's probably why the dewalt battery performed so well in this test. Dewalt puts the protection in the tool and ryobi puts it in the battery. So in this test, there wasn't any and the battery gave all it could without trying to protect itself.
I upgraded from the weak Ryobi impact to the new HP because of its performance on the channel and I can say I was impressed when I used it. I never found a bolt or nut so far that it couldn't bust loose. I use a Ryobi 4 amp hour lithium+ battery along with a Makita 3 amp hour battery and a knock off Makita 5 amp hour battery with adapter. It does the job for me. I just don't like the initial wakeup when you squeeze the trigger.
You know I wouldn't mind seeing what would happen if the DeWalt DCB206 6ah double stacked 21700 cell 20v XR battery were used. Which would melt first, the tool or the battery? ;)
In all seriousness with the discontinuation of the Craftsman 19.2V line when Stanley bought the brand from Sears, I'm neither inclined to purchase new Craftsman battery-powered tools nor any other Stanley-owned brand. I have some Ryobi 18V stuff, I might as well look at getting this impact. The Craftsman 19.2V 1/2" impact was not able to remove the rear shock absorber bolts on my truck, the FSM called for a torque spec of 148ft-lb but I suspect they wer considerably tighter than that. Something inexpensive that uses a battery-system that I already have appeals even if I don't need torque enough to remove a fastener this large or tight.
Do you have a Ryobi 6 or 9AHr battery to try? Just curious. Other sites testing different tools have said they felt some improvements, but I've not seen it quantified.
This impact gun needs the battery with the connection at the base of the battery along with the normal contact points ryobi tools have jus look into the impact wrench battery housing
well now you gotta slap that Dewalt battery on everything you can get a battery adapter for lol. Milwaukee and Makita adapters should be easier to source, a Ridgid adapter exists but isn't as cheap and harder to get. You guys should go big and string some wires off of the Hart tool cause God knows there's no adapter lol. Also I bet you could really hotrod that Ryobi if you got one of the new Dewalt 8ah batteries with the 21700 cells. Dewalt specifically markets the 8ah with its "Power Detect XR" drill for maximum performance and it really makes a difference as other RU-vidrs have shown. I'm pretty sure the 5ah Dewalt just uses 18650 cells Thanks for all you guys do on this channel!
I got the super deal on the big 9ah batteries. If I remember, around $150. Anyways, I can confirm they make a HUGE difference on my brushless 4 1/2" grinder compared to the hp 3ah. I was greatly disappointed with that grinder until I got the 9ah. Way more speed and power now. I'd actually quit using that grinder until I got the 9ah. Now it's the first one I grab. Maybe an idea for a test down the road, get the biggest battery of each manufacturer and retest to see the difference.
A lot of data logging but I was hoping to see the real thing. If you put a spacer plate over the studs there will be more thread elongation and impact absorption and probably take longer to loosen.
I got that Ryobi P262 Impact. Work on cars occasionally and this bad boy unbolts everything I need unbolted. More than enought torque to work on any car/truck. Prob not 18 wheelers though.
Okay so with all these comparisons so far what would be the best battery platform to get into. I work on HD truck. Semi but still need them for work on my personal cars and trucks. Electric tools would be all I'd use so needs to be strong enough to remove a semi lug with years of rust and grime
@torquetest I'm willing to throw my hat into the ring if you wanna take me up on my offer. I'll buy cells and Frankenstein a few batteries together to see if we can get a consistent reading. My theory has been that it's never been about the tool but the cells that are in the battery packs. Stick a volt meter on the rear prongs of an hp battery and see if there actually is a added benefit.
Most wheel lug nuts are not in that tight beyond 417 ft lbs. While not try a test on trying to remove ATG's Crankshaft's Bolt? Even the best portable battery impacts from ATG, IR, Milwaukee, Snap-On, Mac, DeWalt & other have hard time getting it out.
You guys really need to put the test results somewhere on a webpage or something- in this video you tested different batteries and then in the chart said it needs the p195 battery- this is the 3.0aH battery. Previous testing shows that higher aH batteries perform better. Why not test the 6.0ah or 9.0ah from these new ryobi lithium+ battery lineup? Also why was the ryobi adapted to the dewalt instead of the Milwaukee, ridgid or makita? I have the 3 speed non brushless ryobi impact and wondering if I should get the 4.0, 6.0 or 9.0ah or adapt it to makita which I already own and would buy a bigger battery pack but only have 2.0aH packs or if I should adapt to Milwaukee.
Quick little secret about heavy truck tire industry, 95% or more of the time the semi lugs are overtorqued to an unknown amount; the gorilla techs beat the nuts on with their big gun and then just click-click-click... their torque wrench to 500 pounds with the nuts never moving. Removing these things often takes over a 1,000 foot-pounds; sometimes upwards of 1,300+ ft lbs based on nearly "mounting" a 4' cheater bar on 3:1 torque multiplier to break a nut loose.
$200 for just the tool isn't cheap, but I bought the P261 300ft/lb model 3 years ago when I needed an impact to do a timing chain on my S10... I've used that thing basically every weekend, riding mowers, go karts, trailers, trucks, cars, atv, dirt bike and more. I rarely ran into a bolt that it couldn't break free...The tool looks rough, but still works like new...then last week I had a long blade bolt on a zero turn...no amount of PB blaster, heat or even 3' breaker bar was able to move it. So I spent the $200...hoping it would save the day. It broke the bolt free in just a couple of seconds...a bolt I had already spent an hour trying to get free. Now, I am unlikely to run into any bolts I can't break free for the next several years :)
I bought the ryobi P262 mid torque wrench a ryobi 2400 lumens work light and PBLID02 ryobi one+hp 4mode impact driver all for 150 bucks at a pawnshop in there boxes brand new and I love them I hope to get the ryobi link some day there great tools love them team green
That's a good idea. I've always wondered how close they are to a torque wrench but I don't know anyone that uses them. I'm too skeptical to buy them myself.
@@Rosy_87 I have the torque sticks from Harbor Freight and the original torque extensions with the dedicated socket on it that comes in different sizes and strengths from Accurorque. We HAD to use the accurorques when I worked at Ford. I still use my 3/4” 100ft lb and 7/8” 140ft lb dedicated ones and I use the torque extensions all the time. I use them both with a air gun and a Milwaukee high output. They are accurate. I started off checking the torque on every lugnut to verify the tightness. Now I random spot check lugnuts just for piece of mind. Results may vary depending on individual use but I’m very confident in them. I hope that this helps
I believe Ryobi used to 6 amp hour HP battery when setting up their torque figures... I've watched this tool reviewed against the Milwaukee mid torque and they are neck and neck when using the proper amp hour battery. ,2 ah, 3 ah and 4 ah are not enough to power this tool to its full potential.. I've watched at least three other channels that have tested it up to 650 ft pounds of torque with no issues..
my problem with Ryobi is that they don't have a fast charger. I would like to own more, but in the mean time, it's only good for tools that I use in short burst or use infrequently. I find it odd that even their Hart line has a 3 amp charger, while Ryobi just hast 2 amp max and we are talking a long time with no updates of a true fast charger.....Does the stem battery system limit the ability to charge faster? Really want to know cause I really don't see the point of owning more Ryobi tools if that is the case.
Can you link to this episode 30 with more details of the DeWalt adapter? Since I already have this pack and system, it would make perfect sense to grab this Ryobi gun and adapter for those occasional big jobs.
Snap On is expensive. The TTC would rather spend the same amount of money on testing 2 or 3 different tools vs one Snap On tool. I believe that the majority of their viewers are more apt to buy the tools in the lower half of the price categories only daily mechanics and the smaller majority probably purchase Smap On. In the future I'm sure we'll see some of the big names make it on the channel in the future.
I bought a battery stapler for construction work and after a year I know for a fact I'll buy other stuff from them. But not everything because I have a mountain of Dewalt Batteries so I have to buy Dewalt stuff..
@@skillsess9852 there is always a market for used tools. Especially battery packs with good 18650 cells in them. Lots of people are harvesting cells now and love to buy up old, but good, battery packs. Was a high demand a few months ago when I was last on a 18650 hunt. Not sure where the market is currently but if you have a lot of batteries with 18650s in them... you might be sitting on a good pile of money. People were paying up to $4 a cell for good used. Typically it was 0.50 to $1 per cell for good used. If the market is still good and you have a few hundred... cash in and grab new tools. Lol
I used ru-vid.comUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
@@TorqueTestChannel thanks, sorry to spam I just want the unbiased testing and results before making the big purchase. Love the content and vids you guys keep it up this things going to blow up like project farm did.
Drop us an email and we'll send you the results 1st as it can take weeks between testing and editing and premier, especially considering we plan to show at least 2 more high torques on here before the IR.
Ryobi has its place. I know a few “serious” people that own Ryobi products. They might not be their favorite tools but they keep them for filthy projects, travel situations, and as backup platforms for emergency situations.