Can HIMARS MLRS, APC, IFV, Artillery or Special Forces Beat Russian S-400? (Wargames 67) | DCS 

Vs S400 Series: Tossing Nukes vs S-400 IADS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4qXZaXs9eR8.html MLRS vs S-400: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8gAZHMlCNFw.html USN ToT Strike vs S-400 IADS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HsR7yniD9UM.html Kh-47M2 Kinzhal vs S-400 IADS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DjcQnrvMHbA.html Sweden & Star Wars vs S-400 IADS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k303QnlVon0.html WWI, WWII & Stealth vs S-400 IADS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nYwUQGoOSu8.html USAF 4th Gen Strike vs S-400 IADS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1oQ8I00EncA.html Different USAF Bombers vs S-400: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aCsboOG0QU4.html Ukraine-Russia Series: Ukraine US HARMs vs Russian S-400: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eSyEOXsjWo8.html Patriot/NASAMS vs Supersonic Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i1q7uDeinA4.html Fulcrum/Flanker vs Foxbat/Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BhXfxc94JAU.html NASAMS vs Russian Cruise Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pJI_b95jzpk.html Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cnrVxqL5q9w.html Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T_oRoU2Ayfo.html Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ryV65bUJzrw.html NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EiJ2dFRh95g.html Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZhxdrNjig1g.html A-10s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B0tZoo0uLh4.html USN Tomahawk Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0vpi8xBygV8.html USAF Stealth Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IJbf9Bcxnw0.html Ukrainian Jets Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I8FumuZReB4.html F-22 Raptors vs Russian Fighters: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ComRcmrwJWk.html Raptor/Eagle vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-keqYmuSEo-8.html USAF Bombers vs Mariupol Defenses: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aCsboOG0QU4.html Ukraine Bombs Snake Island: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BX696MKdkb8.html Stealth Fighters vs Russian Bombers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rym90jnQDsA.html Sinking Of Moskva #3: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NIjoyIieOzY.html Sinking Of Moskva #2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-snjfbj_EwW4.html Sinking Of Moskva #1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bxwh6MGLJNc.html Russia Nukes Britain: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rzk45RFQwA8.html Ukraine Uses Danish F-16s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-17Pikrp0QaY.html Ukraine Uses Polish Mig-29s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zCi4tAIzuOU.html Russian-Britain Missile Attack: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zwIGfabvzHA.html Ghost Of Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yrct8V4n1-U.html Belgorod Raid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mQykTxt6ftw.html Eurofighter/Fulcrum vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MPyIipEhgR0.html US Strike vs Odessa ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KeiOHgzic6Y.html Russian Helo Rocket Lob: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-118GgGnP_sM.html Russian Su-25 vs US Patriot SAM: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-asp69ZD_tO0.html Understanding Russian SAMs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R4xTxLNZXcw.html Ukrainian Jets Road Operations: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hBpzQhinPbw.html Russian 40 Mile Convoy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vr_-2FLblBk.html Flanker vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VOAuOFLJGk4.html

Speaking as an old HIMARS guy with some experience on the M270s back in the day. Shooting down the old cluster rockets isn't spectacularly hard. They are, as mentioned, slow and fat and not all that stealthy. There's a reason MLRS and HIMARS are built around the "shoot and scoot" principle. That is, in an environment where counterbattery is to be expected, they immediately displace after firing to avoid return fire. They're easy to track on radar, they're easy to track visually, and the actual launcher portion of the vehicle is completely unarmored. An MLRS or HIMARS battery will have an extremely wide footprint, with each launcher having several hide points to fall back to, and they're spread out so a lucky shot can't disable the whole battery at once. You could probably track the rockets in flight with WWII vintage radar equipment if you had to, and all it takes is a single well placed round to turn a rocket into expensive but useless fireworks. Their strength is in numbers. Not even the most sophisticated air defense system is going to stop every single rocket, and a single rocket getting through is going to ruin a lot of days and make it that much easier for the next stonk to slip rockets through the screen. The newer guided rockets are a lot harder to hit. They carry a lot of speed, and they attack from near vertical. Since this isn't a War Thunder forum, I can't get into too much detail about exactly how fast they go, how high they fly, or how long the range is, but I can confidently say that the answer to all three questions is "very." Saturation fire against enemy AA is going to wear it out quickly, especially with skilled crews and a crack fire control team. As an added bonus, they are absolutely terrifying for any planes trying to share the airspace. The chances of a rocket hitting a plane are low, but never nonzero, and at the speeds the guided rockets travel, they're hard to pick up visually. It was always fun to listen for the faint notes of terror over the radio when friendly pilots realized we were shooting. If you absolutely, positively need to gain control of the airspace in a hurry, HIMARS is certainly a viable option.

The Bradley's guns are stabilized so your sights should not be bouncing when you're moving. You would also have thermals so you could use those to spot targets. There are also different types of ammo HE, AP, APDS and an APDS (depleted uranium which will go through a T-72's turret armor), you can also select between 2 types of rounds depending on what you want to load, so you could fire say HE and if you wanted to fire AP you could switch at the press of a button on the gunners station.

I used to be a technician on the MLRS system. LOL They are called the Gridesquare eraser. Awesome weapon that's gotten so much better since the Gulf War. (I could tell you why, but then...you know)

that last one with the special forces (with what looked like Gustavs) was ace, that last kill was intense.

This is such an interesting series of videos, Cap. I've had the bell notifications on the day I subscribed to you lol

On Artillery, including MLRS: - Artillery targets an area or point target. A point target is a square with a 50m diameter. An MLRS that can "kill a grid" means an MLRS unit can target an area of 1km by 1km and put one piece of shrapnel in every square meter. The area depends on the number of launchers and the type of system. The type of rounds fired, fuse settings, the terrain and the types of cover all dramatically affect the battle damage effect of a fire mission. - Theoretically, SAMs ought to be able to engage MLRS rockets. You'd overwhelm the system really easy though and they aren't designed for the task. I assume it's just not modelled in the game for those reasons. - Realistically you'd keep strategic and theatre-level assets out of artillery range (insofar feasible due to operational circumstances) and you switch positions every so often. Stationary systems are dead systems. - Gun AA-systems (and tube artillery for that matter) can engage direct fire ground targets. I remember our boys training that with both the M109 SpArt as well as the Flakpanzer Gepard. The 2A38M 30mm gun on the Pantsir-S1 is the same gun as on the 2S6M Tunguska, a system designed for front-line Very Short Range Air Defence and is extremely capable of engaging ground targets. It'll also run out of ammunition excessively fast (RoF!) making it a terrifying but very short-lived asset. - SAMs can't target artillery grenades. Not a chance.

If memory serves the S400 batteries has been ineffective in real life...

We need some MOAR crazyness like this, I was laughing my ass off. Best start to a Monday morning in ages, boys!

Use the range finder for the 30mm. Lock the target by hitting the enter key. Cap you need to put the RPG-7 guy in a left or right echelon. You could use a line formation, this will keep them out of the back blast area of the weapon.

The M270 is tracked on a modified BFV chassis. It carries two pods, allowing it to load up to 12 rockets/missiles, or two ATACMS, instead of the wheeled M142’s (HIMARS) single pod.

Respect you! The only channel I have rung the bell for.

So the SAS has taken up stealth Curling?

8:00 maybe they don't want to shoot cheap stuff with expensive missiles down and are badly trained/led so no good quick response. So in game, probably just a non-trigger for this kind of ammunition

During Desert Shield, I was on KP when the air war started. Part of the air war was also artillery. That night, at midnight, EVERY MLRS in the Army inventory fired at the exact same time. Just about soiled myself that night.

Ahhh....what a great time I had watching that guy's, thnx so much for the entertainment and lol's.

Of course the IFVs worked, you remembered to bring the sharpened sticks.

hey cap i heard you talking about a worrying trend in video views, i hope it gets better soon, because your videos are awesome. after holidays i will be watching all i have missed

The Bradley ODS Is protected against 30 mm armor piercing. The maximum stated range of the 25 mm canon is 2500 m. We were able to identify targets and use the laser rangefinder to compute the trajectory in order to engage targets further than 2500 m. The M919 depleted uranium round is able to shoot with a flat trajectory much further than the stated range but the HE round is only effective to 2500 m.

Guys honestly a piece of advice re: low viewing numbers. Upload less. People are way less likely to click on a new upload and be excited to watch a new video if there's multiple ones coming out every day. Love your work I hope things improve.

Love these wargame videos Cap keep it up.

Well, this was entertaining I'll give that! Thanks Cap.✌

Cap a salute to you for testing the HIMARS against the S-400 and the Pantsir!

What? You've never heard of the Ukrainian Elitna bryhada samohubtsiv? That's Elite Knee Sliding Suicide Brigade for those of you who don't speak ukrainian. They are a crack regiment with a history dating back to the 13th century. I mean obviously they were a cavalry unit armed with sabres back then, being pulled along behind their specially trained horses using their shields as sleds. They've had to adapt to their more modern weapons since then but they still spend months training recruits in the specialized movement they are world renowned for. It's a military tradition and we all know those can't just be given up just because they make no sense at all.

Most realistic war presentation ever

Ryan Macbeth did a video on why it can’t shoot any c-ram projectiles he also notes that a simple software update could allow them to shoot the rockets down

The fucking kneesliding hahahagaga. ”They’re advancing forwards. …very weirdly…”

15:35 Pantsir took the missile out with its guns... You can actually see the tracers both straight from the direction of the antenna and from the right hand side and the explosion...

Cap: Fires 1 shot stinger at friendly C-130, wonders why he can't kill a friendly later.

13:50 no, you haven't got armor. Like is adviseable against enemy fire

if i had to guess, the game sees the rockets from the MLRS as a bullet rather than a missile and the s400 isnt programmed to shoot down bullets

Lmao the last assault had me rolling XD

They aren’t actually reported to be in country but are likely there. The S300/S400 sees them as a Grad Rocket. Their software isn’t programmed to take out grad rockets to cost inefficient. The S400 would waste millions of dollars of rocket to take out $10,000 grad. The M270 can take input of 10 digit grid coordinates and it will place firing solutions.

Brandon Lee or Serj Tankian ? Great video.

That spread is why the MLRS is a grid square killer

Does the rocket exhaust help the aa radar maybe track it? You can do this with mission editor targeting, but this more real looking for sure! Combined Arms looks really awesome here! Can you imagine V. B. S. if it comes to civilians with a wild map. Arma reforger for now..

Love your channel, soon getting a gaming pc and abandoning consoles. Can’t wait to invest thousands of dollars into driving/flying sim gear

You did it!

Knee Army need to be in all the sim videos from now on.

Thanks!

gota love the floaty spec ops guys

Iron Dome was specifically designed, programmed, and built to intercept rockets. I'm assuming the S400 can definitely see the M270 rockets however they are just filtering them out as "noise." You'd be surprised at what all radar can see. If you didn't filter out a bunch of the nonsense then you radar screen would be just completely filled up. The S400 basically just needs a software update.

My guess would be the S400 calculates the trajectory and won't waste a very expensive missile if their is not a threat of being hit by the inbound missile.

Arty is only so accurrate at range due to mech limitations of the gun but with 155mm ICM rounds close is good enough.

Apparently the Russians are terrified of HIMARS and are shooting anything that moves up there. I'd imagine crew competency is a factor.

It’s a great day!

Also what people are saying by "they are using S400 to attack ground targets" is true, you are just misunderstanding. They are using them to attack incoming forces. They are using them as cheaper, less accurate cruise missiles to attack stationary targets.

I love this tomfoolery :D

Personally Cap I'd have sent in the Abrams. If only to get some kind of payback for the hours of pain the S400's have put everyone through. That's you and us viewers.

The last commando assault brings back crouched Oddjob memories.

Jake Broe has a channel on RU-vid where he describes why himars rockets dont get shot down... I wouldn't do it justice to summarize here but apparently the s300s and s400s are failing to intercept himars.

More like this please?!

Oerlikon uses 35mm shells for its autocannon and Pantsir uses 30mm shells from the 2A38M autocannon. Pretty similar though.

A bit weird, but fun!

I'm sorry guys, but this became a stupid video the moment it lacked any long range missiles, because what kind of a S 400 would even be depoloyed in range of grads (Uragan, HIMARS, doesn't matter, it's all practically the same)

how could it possibly shoot ground vehicles, i mean they would be shooting their own ground vehicles?!

Infantry wins in the end, omg that was funny!!! :D

Hahaha yea those unguided need computers to factor in everything. But it nice to see all the different types of munitions that go to the rocket motors my company makes and I inspect for flaws. Except for the last one left to right we stop at ATACMS

S-400 missiles cost millions. They couldn't afford to use them on HIMARS rockets if they wanted to. Even their shorter range missiles in these systems, are irreplaceable with the current microchip import bans.

Russia is apparently having issues shooting down HIMARS with S400 in real life. Including losing an S400 to HIMARS.

The 30mm autocannon on the Pantsir-S1M is the same gun that's on the 2K22 Tunguska

Some projectiles are not modeled in game to be shot at by SAMs. In reality s300/350/400 can engage any of the ballistic missiles present in dcs but probably wouldn't have to since they are covered by layered cheaper systems like Tor or Pantsir. Many SAM systems back from '50/'60s can be utilized for ground attack but that's usually some last resort desperate/luck hit scenario due to accuracy and cost. Doubt Russians would use expensive s300/s400 missiles when they have warehouses full of cruise/ballistic and MLRS missiles for probably next 20 years of fighting.

"It immediately hasn't worked" ~Super Cap

The main reason of not shooting rockets is because the missiles in s400 are expensive and limited in number hence taking cheap rockets is wastage. Rather they reserve these for more capable targets and it's followed in reality too. Now, Israel made Iron dome keeping in mind the cheap targets it has to take down rather complex systems. Now, s400 is 100% capable of finding and taking out these targets but it's on the operater to do so or not, which as per me they will not do because they're taught to identify difference between targets.

whole War game with special forces felt like playing with toy soldiers made with cheap moulded plastics

Bushmaster mounted in middle of Quad 50cal.

This month alone there are clips of russians destroying s300s with a bullet or two.

Quick prediction before continuing past mission statement.. HIMARS and MLRS will absolutely destroy that ginormous target... I mean bridge, I mean well-guarded bridge.🥳

PS I used to maintain M 113's and operate them. also M109 's 10ton and 5t0n MLVW's jeeps etc.😇

I was a Bradley gunner in Iraq, man those are so much fun to shoot

You should try the Fajr-5

Funny how Ukraine just nailed a podlet-k1 radar with HiMARS just before this Video goes public...

Cap good shooting you had no mercy on the ground....😅🤣 good vid I was unsubscribe didn't know how long sure miss the ground units that you all played.. Good job Brandon Lee your an ace..

Ryan McBeth does a good job explaining why Russia can't shoot these rockets down (how the US adapted to shoot rockets down in Iraq) and what these rockets would look like to a radar operator. Go check it out, great video as always Cap! Side note/rant Russia using the S300/S400 to shoot at ground targets isn't some feat of engineering, American AEGIS with the SM-2 & SM-6 can shoot at land based targets and other ships as well. The Brits with their Aster 15's did a test hitting a ship target which means their Aster 30's can probably do the same. Russia isn't doing anything spectacular with their S400s by hitting land targets lol.

hehe i liked and commented .. mwa algorithm :P

Do you guys think that a torpedo could take out the pilings of the Crimean Bridge?

S-400 probably can't do much against a prosumer drone with a brick of C4.

Those special forces are using the knee pads the long board guys use with wheels on the knee and elbow pads.

loft a glsdb 6pack to 80K feet with a weather balloon-triple the range. small target comes in supersonic.

Cap was the only KIA amid 50 troops! LOL

Not sure if MLRS munitions have hitbox in DCS. As I recall mavericks and jsows didn't get engaged by airdefences either a while ago in DCS either.

Does the MLRS have no radar cross-section programmed in DCS? (Ultimate stealth rocket)

Yes 🥰 grim reaper very good 👍 😊 i like it, the S400 do we have laser guided 🚀 beam for that flyer, or other cool weapons. Yeah,,, 😅

Unguided rocket may have no telemetry system for the counter system to get a bead on?

Could it be that the twenty mile range on the MLRS puts the rockets too close for the S400 to lock and fire in game?

There's a house full of mental chavs nearby that I call Noels House Party after the TV show as its hilarious how much crazy shouting I hear when walking my beautiful husky past lols, deliberately go via Noels House party lols

Even in DCS takes random rounds to the head, not just in ARMA.

HIMARS

Comforting the lonely widows, TUXXOR?

For what it's worth: "Coriolis force In physics, the Coriolis force is an inertial or fictitious force that acts on objects in motion within a frame of reference that rotates with respect to an inertial frame. In a reference frame with clockwise rotation, the force acts to the left of the motion of the object." - Wikipedia Also the curvature of the earth. Does the MLRS aiming method take these into account?

Why s400 can't shoot down rockets? Because it wasn't desing for that, the same with the Patriot. Patriot systems fail intercepting much less sophisticate rockets in Israel and that lead to the development of the Iron Dome. This types of Sam's are not desing for this type of mission, but yes they can intercept misiles like Skuds ATACAMS Iskander and some versions ICBM

So from what I understand the reason the s400 is unable to shoot GMLRS is because the RCS that the s400 would see from the rocket is a cross between an airframe and a tbm so it cant get a proper solution on the rocket. Of course thats a very condensed version of the explanation but if youre more interested in the subject you should check out this vid. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ceskPbDtTzY.html

How would an Iowa class battleship do against the S-490?

Shoot move 1 deg, shoot move 1 deg, shoot repeat

I didn't see any adjustment for altitude - is the target at the same altitude as the launch vehicles?

Hey man can u make a video about the IFF Override in the F16

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maybe those missles arent on the AI threat list for the AA defense system?

Lessons learned: Panzer can’t kill troop on their knees! 😂

Those are stinger missiles for spec ops.