Can Light Yagami Catch Johan Liebert? 

Cool!😊😊

Can you do ayanokoji vs light next?

What about Johan vs Joker

Very good analyysis/ video I was wondering if you could do yuuichi vs akiyama since they both have a similiar type of manga

Manipulation is comfortably Johan tbh

@@WorldLeader12345 don't underestimate light. He is a master manipulator as well. I believe Johan might be tiny bit better at manipulating others but when face to face, light can easily hold his own against mind games of Johan, i think it would be marvelous to watch the two go at it. Bring in L as well, God! It would be one of the best psychological series of all time

@@robertmills3830 I’m not underestimating Light, he’s simply nowhere near as good at manipulating as Johan, Johan has manipulated & coerced people into killing for him after simple conversations and doesn’t need a DN to do so, Johan made 50 people kill each other at 10 years old. Lights ego & emotion means he gets absolutely shattered in a battle of mind games against Johan. Only in Intelligence is he comparable. Everything Light did Johan could probably do if they swapped positions but I don’t think Light could do what Johan did. I do agree it’s a fun watch though.

@@WorldLeader12345 Johan finds a weakness in people and exploits it to mentally shatter them. Light is no ordinary human, he can tackle all the manipulation of Johan. Lights ego resulted in him indulging L in the first place, he said in episode 3 or 4 that he want purposefully letting L get closer and find out that kira was related to police officers because he wanted to get close to L as possible in order to eliminate him, the best course for light would have been to ignore L and simply use his intelligence to make sure that L stays as far away as possible but he had to satisfy his ego and God complex. Johan on the other hand is a genetically perfect specimen, a part of a scientific experiment. He is truly one of the most terrifying characters in television, but when it comes to battle of minds, light cannot be as easily manipulated as you think, light would find ways to counter Johan but eventually Johan will find a weakness and exploit it. It will not be easy tho L on the other hand would truly be a perfect competition for Johan. L was defeated by light but L somehow would be a better challenge who can take on Johan and might even defeat him.

Manulation is definitely on Johans side by alot actually light is a good manipulator but he's not on johans level. I think iq is also to Johan I compare Johan to L who i think has a higher IQ to light. So it goes Johan = L > light.

Well he would probably. The only reason Johan didn’t just stomp L and Light was bc it would be boring

​@@danielvanommeren3968there is literally no reason for johan to use death note because he can get people killed without death note. But assuming he did use death note, he wouldn't show any overconfidence or ego and would only kill people whose deaths wouldn't be linked to death note. The only reason light used heart attacks to kill victims was because of his ego and because he wanted to appear as an invisible force. Johan doesn't have enough or any ego for that, he'll just kill them by writing other conditions, such as accident or gone missing, something which would fit the victim

@@helo9316 how is this related to my comment

​@@danielvanommeren3968​​ no haha, you underestimate L or light, light is an idiot because of his ego but I don't doubt that he can also keep his ego in check by knowing the enemy he is facing but L can win in 1 vs 1 against johan and You say that Johan can against both of them? That's already humor, but there is no doubt that Johan is a monster

@@Braian9887 you underestimate johan

yea and a god complex as well

Anyakoji wins

Guys I accidentally shit my pants

Because he's a nonexistent being

bless you

tell us how

@mariafecasilan8464 What do you mean how? He just doesn't leave any, and I mean ANY traceable stuff behind him.

appreciate you bro, glad you enjoyed

​@@AventSirindeed!

Can Light kill Johan with death note? Johan Liebert is not even his true name, did the manga ever mention his true name?

@@iliadx7495 he can with shinigami eyes

Sherlock stomps no diff

@@Hugm4lsecondaccount If it’s Sherlock from MTP then Johan wins.

@@WorldLeader12345 i always use OG Sherlock

@@Hugm4lsecondaccount Hmmm, yeah he’s much more intellectual than Johan but in a situation like this? It’s debatable

Man this kinda hurts to say because monster is my favourite anime and johan is my favourite anime character but like sherlock outscales johan in probably every category except maybe manipulation. But in a scenario where johan has the powers he has ( access to criminal underground, access to high politicians in government, access to his wealth ) then he might be able to kill sherlock. But if sherlock decides to take help from his brother mycroft who has the backing of the British government then they might win

We have suggested this so many times

Up

He would probably turn the school into kinderheim 512

I think it's clear here that Johan would wipe all Cote characters not only wipes but straight up murder them yes including ayanokoji dude or at least humble him because ayanokoji is way too selfish and feel like he's the king of his world Johan would humble tf out of ayanokoji bro that's how dangerous Johan liebert as a character.

​​@@licansen3331 Poor soul don't even know that selfishness is the common trait of a human. The fact that ayanokoji's character is very similar to Johan only backfires everything you said about him.

good effort i respect it but your still wrong.

Np, also was it really known? it was only streamed that L vs Kira was happening in Kanto remember They never did a worldwide broadcast, all thats known is maybe some other places in japan theres random deaths and even later, but its a good point if whatever I said is wrong.

Worldwide probably knows of Kira but maybe not L vs Kira idk tho

​@@AventSirThat makes sense. However, Johan has many connections within the police, as you mentioned yourself. And yes, L is known worldwide (not as much as Kira, not even close actually), to the point that when he appears on the live broadcast in Kanto, some people recognize him. If L is known and has influence throughout the Interpol, I doubt Johan is unaware of his existence and wouldn't take measures against him.

​@@AventSiryes it makes sense, because the internet exists in their world meaning information is free to travel countries

Johan probably would take Near into account to

Appreciate you bro, glad you enjoyed.

Also I don’t think Tenma would just tell Light his real name (assuming the name Johans mother he gave him was actually given to him before he left her care) & Johan would probably go as far as to killing his mother just to keep that information hidden. (He only cared for Anna & Tenma).

Light is still able to kill Johan with the Death Note, theres a way I stated it in the video. I timestamped it.

@@AventSir Technically yes he can, but I don’t think he’d get it done, he’d need the Shinigami eyes to do so which I don’t think he’d be willing to do since he wanted to rule as long as possible + I don’t see Mikami or Miss getting close enough to him to do so. Johan would be difficult for Light to even locate, maybe even harder than L since Johan didn’t operate within the boundaries of the law. Good point though.

@@WorldLeader12345 In the video scenario, misa is able to see him but you're just mentioning in general which makes sense but this video is more scenario based so that's why. I agree tho

@@AventSir Ahhh fair enough, yeah according to your scenario that’s definitely true

Yeah, i agree. Johan probably would have just written all the names of the people involved in the neo nazis, the eugenics experiments(if he remembered) and his criminal past including Roberto or anyone who seen his face. Then went to live with Anna not committing any more crimes

Agreed, also the fact that in this vid he talks about johan not figuring out there's a person named L chasing after him along the way, like bruh L is basically world famous. So with that there's a good chance of johan figuring out that the world's greatest detective is chasing after him thx to his connections with the police.

​@@nevilgeorge9472or when he said that light would send misa to Johan to kill him. I think Johan would figure out there's someone else with the deathnote and I think misa would be figured out and he'd most likely manipulate her

watch the end of the video again, the death note rule says that it assigns a name to a human who might not have one.

It wouldn't matter if he had his intended sisters name or his name he'd die with whatever name his mother assign him. I just realized though if someone is never assigned a name ever that means that person couldn't die by the deathnote. If the mother never decided on a name then Johan wouldn't die by the deathnote

Not really since Light was a detective at one point

Up

@NXP38 Light chasing Johan makes more narrative sense for both shows, Light lost his memories and was good for a while and worked with L & did want to be an officer at one point, also even after he regained his memories he was posing as “L” so it makes more sense.

@NXP38 Yes, hence my answer

​@@WorldLeader12345shut up edgelord

True 😂😂😂

Appreciate you bro

Compared to Johan, Lights manipulation is pretty average

@@WorldLeader12345 thats true for anyone tbf. But I'm just hinting at the the idea that he was quite euphemistically judging Light's manipulation.

@@Lloyaro fair enough, that’s a valid take then

@@WorldLeader12345 Johan manipulated average idiots, Light had to manipulate the smartest person on earth, and other geniuses. No comparison.

yeah all good bro

W

LMAO thanks bro, hopefully view count dont stop people 😭

Shinigami shows name even if the person didn't know his name. There's no way that if Misa sees Johan's face and head she didn't see nothing. She sees somewhat name. It is a death note rule

any omniscient character,or time traveler can catch and solve Johan

@@Joyscp999True + Batman, other than that though there aren’t too many of the top of my head that could catch and prove him guilty with evidence.

He will make all the students kill each other.

If the unnamed shishigami is light then johan killing light will technically mean johan did a nice job breaking it villain thing

Thank you for watching it all, appreciate the support :)

Yeah those Red Rose Mansion/Nazi guys who were obsessed with Johan would go crazy with the Death Note, it would be similar to the Yotsuba Arc in Death Note.

@@WorldLeader12345 Ya, it would.

I'm not sure, but if I remember correct, than Johan has 190 IQ and Light has 210. Besides L has 240, but I guess on this Level of IQ the differences don't really matter, because everyone of them have the opportunity too well think over their net steps. The greatest riskant for Johan is, that Light could get some of Johans old pictures and than after touching a Death Note, use the Shinigami eyes.

@@jasonleganke6016 Johan, Light and L have never actually had there IQs revealed. But there are a few guasstimates we can make based on what they did and how this compares to IRL people who have performed similar feats. I will write about there feats here and how they compare to one another. Firstly Light. His best IQ feat to my knowledge and the most numerically quantifiable is him getting first on a national test (and being overall the highest ranked student of his year). This based on the japonese school population would make Light number 1 among roughly a million people. Irl people who perform like this usually have iqs of around 171-172. I think Light is at least slightly higher due to not worrying at all about the test and seemingly having 0 trouble but this is still a nice iq floor to put him on (so give or taka a standard deviation of 15 points potentially). He is however capped by L who not only performed similarly on the same test (while having his reasoning nerfed by 40% due to not being able to sit in the way he likes to) but Ohba and Mello have both said that L was smarter than Light. So than lets talk about L. At the age of 8 he was considered the greatest detective in the world and has successfully stopped WW3. He has shown advanced understanding of echonomics, reasoning, human behavior, psychology, philosophy and multiple scientific fields at these ages also. Irl child geniuses are estimated with those ridiculous 200+ iqs by doing high level adulting at early ages. L was considered the batter than any adult in his field with possessing great competence at a variety of other fields. Kids like this usually have iqs of 230-250 from what i was able to research. This also works well with L and Lights shared test feat where L was able to get a score comparable to 171-172 iq people while nerfed 40% with 171-172 increased by 40% being 239-240. So this feat also supports L being this high. Now lets see who Johan compares to batter Light or L. Johan was a prodigy at pretty much everything he ever tried from seemingly day 1. He was able to manipulate everyone at kinderheim 511 to kill themselves and each other at the age of 10. At 11 he was able to commit multiple murders while at a highly survayed place like a hospital so well that Heinrich Lunge someone who himself is likely a genius and one of the greatest detectives in the world wasn’t even able to begin to understand what actually happened. At 15 he was able to operate the largest underground money loundering business in europe and likely all of history, seemlessly without anyone finding out. Even before all of this he was able to get him and his sister from Czechia to germany and systematically kill anyone who wanted to alert the authorities of the two orphans because Johan even as a child was able to deduce/observe that Bonaparta’s level of institutional power was enough for even information this small to be picked up on his radar. Which Johan was completely correct on as Bonaparta did find them even though he no longer wanted to harm anyone. Johan also maintained perfct grades at the school he went to for the Schuewald plan even though Johan probably needed to put more effort into his plans than Light did due to Johan not having the death note which simplified/facilitated a lot of what Light was doing so Johan maintaining perfect grades is if anything more impressive than when Light did it. Based on this information i think Johan would compare batter to L than to Light based on his feats alone as both L and Johan were child geniuses who could accomplish feats beyound any adult in their fields (Detective and Outlaw respectively) with just their brain power alone. As well as showing incredible awareness of the surounding world at pretty much the same ages. While Light is undoubtibly a genius and pretty high up even among this level of intellect, L and Johan are geniuses among geniuses as their feats show as well as the narratives of their series. Of course if we use more specific comparisons between individual IQ categories (like Working Memory Index, Verbal/Spatial Comprehension Index, Processing Speed Index, Etc) this could be different but i think that does Johan a disservice. As he doesn’t even appear in half of Monsters total episodes himself so Light just had more screen time to show feats in individual categories than Johan. But i think even than it might be comparable. This method is also the one most closely adheared to by the intelligence scaling community and normally it works well just not with a character like Johan in my opinion. So according to my estimations based on the information and reasonong outlined above: Light’s IQ is 172-187 L’s IQ is 235-240 And Johans IQ is 210-230 BTW Sorry if it was too long. I just wanted to explain everything as this kind of “exact IQ estimatin” isn’t vary common when debating intelligence.

So there's a possibility that Light could win. Not very likely but not entirely impossible either.

Real

What could they even do? Friend has the literal world by his side. Light can't even kill him because he'll never find his name and shinigami's eye is also useless.

That's what i thought 😂, but look there's death note fan who's gonna say : But there's power in death note to see someone true name, and Misa can see Johan true name! 😠😠 Yeah... as if Misa can still alive after knows Johan face 😑

I mean I think that fact just attributes to johans skill he does exist but the best detective thinks he doesn’t bc he leaves no trace.

good effort i respect it but your still wrong

Why he is wrong?

swap Johan and William James Moriaty if you read the manga near the end of death note you can see that comparing the manipulative prowess of characters like Light Yagami from Death Note, William James Moriarty from Moriarty the Patriot, and Johan Liebert from Monster is always intriguing. Light, with his intellect and strategic planning, is undoubtedly formidable, using the Death Note to orchestrate elaborate schemes for his goal of creating a new world order, but his hubris and overconfidence prove to be his downfall, underestimating his adversaries Near and Mello. William James Moriarty, on the other hand, demonstrates a keen understanding of human psychology and societal structures, manipulating events and individuals with an altruistic motive to dismantle corrupt hierarchies and bring justice, adding complexity to his character. Meanwhile, Johan Liebert stands as a chilling figure, manipulating others with a deep understanding of human nature and a sheer desire for chaos and destruction, lacking any empathy or remorse, making his manipulation all the more terrifying. Each character offers a unique perspective on manipulation and its consequences, enriching the world of manga and anime with their compelling narratives and intricate schemes.@@RealToxic680

@@JREsBestBits So what's the context.I asked you why he was wrong.And he just Told about these three criminals alright.Nothing more then that.And then You told him he wrong.I asked why?

Determination Vs Johan? Hmmm not sure if that helps too much but valid