Johan Liebert Was Never Evil in Monster. 

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I believe Johan was far too educated, socially intelligent, and well adjusted (on a surface level) to not be evil. He understood what he was doing and why it was wrong. This is pretty interesting though.

You can argue that the reason Johan killed the directors of the hospital was not only that he was grateful to Tenma but that he recognized that they were inept and corrupt, and that Tenma would do a better job of running the hospital in their place. It was ultimately to the benefit of the patients and the world that he killed them. Perhaps he even saved more lives than he killed, in doing that. From his perspective, it was a perfectly logical and correct move, and he doesn't have the same reticence toward murder that the others around him have, having already become acclimated to it.

Every villain has a tragic backstory that scars them deeply, so does every hero. The difference is that the hero tries to prevent people from experiencing what they (the gero) went through, while the villain doesn't care if somebody else has to suffer for them (the villain) to get what they want, since they have have been through much worse.

It’s nice that you pointed out that Richard managed to deduce that Edmund Fahrens death wasn’t a suicide since his intelligence is underrated however, he only knew it could’ve been Johan due to the information he got from Dr Reichwein & Gillen when Tenma told them it was Johan (Johan never hid his true nature from Tenma as we saw in Episode 4 where he kills Junkers).

It's probably the best Monster video essay i've watched yet. It summarizes everything about Johan's character and helps understand his motives, but of course Johan's backstory and understandable motives doesn't justify his horrible actions. I already knew a lot of the things in the video, but it helped me realize some new stuff that i missed/didn't think of. You really did a great job with editing and summarizing all of it!

The autorial choices in this series are so brilliant and you bring them to light in the best ways possible with your thoughts, the flow of the video and editing choices. loved watching this!!! *almost* emphatized with johan but we're not going there yet lol

It’s insane when you realize a lot of, if not all of the things that Johan does, are actually out of love for his sister. Ana is his twin, yes, and she also represents the good side of Johan. It’s hard to figure out Johan’s character entirely because there’s so many pieces to the puzzle, but this video helped a lot.

Johan was never evil, he just made an entire orphanage start playing fighting games that unfortunately got most of them killed including adults. He was kind and good enough to tell a child that his mother never wanted him and to go to the city and look for his mother. Unfortunately making the child wanted to commit suicide but again Johan had good intentions. He was also good in making serial killers , gang bosses, underground police do his bidding to help him create a world for his sister and him only. He also only shoots people he feels are an obstacle to his plans. This and many more actions say that Johan was never evil he just has this weird ability that 99.99% when he talks or simply exists bad things happen either instantly or moments after. Such a good young man he is

If not for Nina (and his memory of her), Johan would've fulfilled that verse from the book of Revelation and been the last one standing at the end of the world

I hardly ever comment on videos but the editing and the way you explain things with pure research is truely impressive. I would pay to see your videos if I had to, that's how amazing your videos are. Avent you are a gem 💎 (I taught I would never subscribe to someone's membership because of my high standards but you deserve it.

But why would he kill Anna’s foster parents if he wants to protect her and if all his kills are strategic?

Amazing video, great editing and narration. Also that ExpressVPN insert lol. I just come from finishing watching the anime for the first time yesterday. I honestly believe that Johan truly was evil... until he encountered the Nameless Monster book again. The reason I say this is because of thay scene where he goes into one of his associates that apparently was the holder of all the money he obtained. I am assuming this also happens in the manga, but in the anime Johan gives his gun to this person and does his typical pointing to his own forhead pretty much asking for a bullet to the forhead. The other person tells him to stop joking, then they talk about a change of plans. Johans tells him about the famous "view/landscape" that only Tenma would see, and proceeds to murder this other criminal. To me, he really wanted to end the world, but in a twist of fate the book reminded him of why he embraced the Monster within him and changed course after that anxiety attack at the library. He was viciously murdering people left and right before that, and after it the killings were slowing down. It caughts my attention that the bible verse from Revelations only comes TWICE in the story (iirc): at the beginning and at the very end. Johan might have been truly the Antichrist, the world-ending human created by ourselves. And who knows, maybe he never got to become human after all.

Wow. I came here to re-experience my love for Monster after having a terrible week...and I find my essay linked in the description of your video! To say that I am honored is not enough to explain how happy this made me! Thank you so much. I will "edit" this comment with my thoughts on your video, but I just wanted to let you know how grateful I am for the credit. I'm touched my perception of a series has assisted you in some shape or form! Actually, my twin brother and I worked together on our analysis essays. His was through video form, perhaps you've seen it? The title is "Johan did nothing wrong" (bait title lol ) But anyways, my written essays served as the foundation to his more in depth analysis. I will be sure to send this video his way! His username is Leovoid! - Edit: OKAY *cracks fingers* let's start. First, I absolutely love the atmospheric editing you did. As a video editor myself, you did an astounding job. The mix of SFXs was *chefs kiss* I love how you laid out the details in order in a very less confusing manner. Very concise, simple and clear. Stating Johan "had no other choice" but to kill the elderly couple because they were going to call the police and therefore, signal to the massively influential Monster into knowing their whereabouts - is something people gloss over. Many people just think Johan killed those old people to kill them. And what people forget is that Johan is methodical. He is not random. He never acts without rhyme or reason. okay...I was thrown off when the subtitle said something about "VPN" when Johan spoke. and NOW IM DEAD LMAOOOOOO. This was such a good transition from the video to a promotional ad. I love it. Genius hahaha. I love the line "If you want to have the interpretation that Johan killed just to kill - then look at all the people who he killed and the connection." That is such a simple way to put it. This is why those who misunderstand Johan are only doing so because they look at the series at surface level. If one puts in the effort to connect the many puzzle pieces Naoki scattered before us, things will become evident. I'm relieved someone else finally believes in the same idea that Johan did not try to set up Dr. Tenma. I'm also glad you are giving Richard the credit he deserves!!! I hope your video opens the eyes of many. The driving force behind writing my essays was the fact that there was this popular belief that Johan wanted to torture and kill his sister. It was plastered everywhere, wiki pages, reddit, tumblr - youtube videos. and I just could not believe it! So I hope this helps people understand that Johan was not an evil monster - but just a human being. Thank you again!

Johan is a character I’ve never seen before and I’m intrigued . I had to do some research to better understand his actions through the story. I agree that he wasn’t necessarily a villain because his harsh childhood shaped him into the way he is and literally his whole existence revolved around an experiment , which isn’t something to be looked at lightly and experiencing first hand how cruel and inhumane humans can be

Based on what I've observed, the ending is quite not as we expected to see, well, it only tells us that evil will always exist and as well the good will remain in order for the world to be balanced. Pertains to the real monster, it's the parents of Johan and Ana, which results in their bad decision making from the start where they join in that kind of organization's experiment which leads to the problem in the future where both those child Johan and Ana suffered with those decisions that they make. Even though their parents decides to leave and escape that organization, still their decision in the first place causes chaos in the end, until their children doesn't even know it's own name, as well as those pairs who are part of that experiment they have a decision to stop it but they joined it like a creature with no minds for not thinking what future will happened and they will think to leave when just something bad happened, And as well to Johan known as the monster in the story, well, he was just one of the victims where he is the outcome of the bad decision of their parents.

That was the best ad transition I’ve ever seen, hats off to you 😂

Honestly, I can't help but see him as like the anti-Ash (Ash Lynx from Banana Fish). Both are intelligent, know how to manipulate, have good looks that are openly acknowledged, are acknowledged to be born leaders, are charismatic, have killed, and have a distrust of adults. The only difference is mainly in the case of killing, Ash was ordered to kill and has likely killed dozens and even when he's crying to Eiji, he claims he felt nothing when he did it- but Eiji corrects him in saying he wouldn't be crying now if he didn't. In Johan's case, it was all for a greater purpose, covering his tracks, protecting Anna, repaying Tenma, they were kills with a solid meaning without being random. It's just something interesting to me since I've recently started watching Monster, but at the same time have been a huge fan of Banana Fish, so I can't help but make little connections. ^^

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11:00 a detail u may have missed and another reason y johan needed money was that he made a deal with Christoph when they escaped from kinderhighm to reunite in the future and rule the world. Since you need money and power to rule the world johan was tasked with money and Christoph with political power and influence and they would join together and rule the world.

I mean i get that he wasn't enjoying doing what he did like joker or anything but his methods are just too chaotic to be regarded as normal. He is certainly not a normal person doing what needs to be done or anything, which is understandable considering his childhood. You made is look like he did everything for his sister like lelouch. But setting an entire Library on fire cannot with an intend to kill everyone. And causing an entire town to massacre itself for no apparent reason just doesn't fit right to me. Also him manipulating talking to that kid eho tried to commit suicide seems intentionally manipulative. Also we see random kids which he talked to walking on rooftops and stuff which he too did that also adds to his evil personality. I understand your point that johan is capable of reason but still he does things which are unreasonable and abnormal adding more to the psychopathic vibe of his. I don't know maybe its bcoz i am an anime only that i feel like he is a nihilistic psychopath who is evil through and through. But your video did Change my view of johan if only a little✌️💯

Great video, really enjoyed it. Keep it up!

I just finished Monster a couple of days ago, and it's Top 3 anime that i ever watched

Another banger video on Monster, nice work 😮‍💨

the amount of effort put in this video is crazy

The editing on this video is the best I've ever seen. Great job

Your editing is incredible man. You deserve so much more views

Really love your videos and how you narrate it and how you put effort on making these videos! If I may ask, how do you do this and what sites do u use? I'm doing a school project and I want to start learning these kinds and how it is made. I like how ur videos like this so may I have some advice or how u make these videos? Thank you for your time.

Its so interesting to me, that being misunderstood weighs so heavily on how people reprieve and JUDGE you. Johan is being despised by a lot of the monster fans, simply because they don't understand him... which makes you wonder about a lot of real life criminals that are despised by society, and what would change if they were better understood.

I'm watching this again today. Can't get this out of my head

"No matter how hard you try, you never justify murder." - Nameless Monster

what is the name of the song in the OST that you inserted at around 9:20 i’ve been looking for it everywhere. Excellent video btw sat down and watched 3 of your videos. 90 minutes well spent.

Johan : would you like to drink Richard (in sad way ) : yes Richard takes bottle drink gets clarification Richard: wait ! This is not a alcohol I drink Johan : oh sh*t Instense hand fighting Johan final move KO! richard goes Down Johan win

The only conflicting parts are when Johan made that kid who was playing the world domination game with his friends, he made that kid to fall from the building. Another is making that kid Milos from Petrov's orphanage go into the red light district. I understand Johan wanted that kid to know the truth but that experience is just traumatic, that kid literally attempted to take his own life.

That vpn add was smoother than my uncle coming to my room at 3 am when i was 5 years old

I just finished the series for the first time yesterday and I found myself going back in forth in my head if Johan actually was evil at heart or not. I find it hard to overcome something that was literally instilled in you even before your birth, being propped up to be the next hitler essentially. Some of his actions in the show definitely display malice and intent but once you find out the real truth behind his actions it makes you wonder if he in fact was just another victim of the corrupt system all other characters had to live in.

Definitely a point for the nature vs nurture argument given that they were a science experiment from the beginning. Did he ever have a chance?

There’s this popular concept that “evil is irrational” therefore Johan isn’t evil bc he has a justification for what he does… this is a fallacy, evil actions don’t become less evil bc there’s a somehow noble justification. That’s the whole point of this story. Its like the message flew over your head lmao Also Johan kills the first couple even though they most probably wanted to adopt them, and also kills the Liebert’s even though they never treated them wrong and they didn’t know who Bonaparta was. Johan kills his parent figures cause he saw the monster in his mother back in the Three Frogs, he cant trust adults. That’s something you didn’t consider, his killings aren’t objective at all either, they are emotional as well.

I know the title is for bait but for real he's evil. Once you start killing innocents, your soul is tainted bro there's no 2 ways about it. No need to overthink it

91 views in 30 minutes dam the algorithm hit you dry

this video was super helpful as I just finished watching Monster. My view of him was already changing but now I see it better. I think everything you said was right, although I would add that Johan is less sympathetic because he teaches kids some of the f-ed up stuff he was taught even though he’s obviously angry that this was done to him. He seems to believe that this is the way the world is, but he didn’t have to nudge them like that

Ur editing so nice

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Think about that guy's mind who made this anime character & hall story 🗿☠️

Love these types of videos!

Explanations for actions does not excuse them. While what happened to Johan was horrible, it was his choice to turn into what he became. I say this because Nina had the exact same thing happen to her (and she actually went through the physical torment unlike Johan who just thinks he went through it) and she is still a good person. All his past does is explain his actions. They do not in anyway excuse them and he is well aware what he is doing is wrong. The fact that he feels like he has to do what he does does not absolve him of any responsibility. One can empathize with a villains actions while still realizing they are evil.

5:30; I think both grimmer and roberto were from different batches or school years as it was mentioned that only 2 people were the survivors

5:29 Roberto and grimmer were also part of kinderheim ?

Ok. Correct me, if I am wrong, but one thing *does NOT fit* me... 🤔 As, if Johan join Lieberts with Anna, HOW he got Anna and why for example that 'good' orphanage, that suppousedly took care of Anna, knowing her for long, seeing her growing up, does NOT remember Anna/Nina disappearing, rather being adopted? 🤔 And didn't they all already remember her as Nina in Orphanage? Or I miss-remember? 🤔 Because if they do, it will be sign, that NINA, name she got later on, was one she already took over. Which will symbolize also, it must have been after Lieberts death. If faster, Nina will still be ANNA. 🤷🏻‍♀️ And in Fortner house, she was already Nina. Where Johan run with her and threated her later loving parents to take care of her. And Fortner are LAST Nina parents. Meaning, they were obviously AFTER LIEBERTS. Which - unless Johan did not kept changing also Anna/Nina name, crush timeline You shown a little, as in proper one, BEFORE facing Lieberts, she have to go to orphanage. So going to Fortners, was again Johan and Anna alone. BUT Johan rather joined adopted 'Nina'. So, is there possibility, Johan already once took Anna/Nina from Fortners? 🤔 But then, again. IF memory serves me right and after years can fail me, in orphanage Anna was NINA. So, post Liebert time. Unless, again, she kept switching. 🤷🏻‍♀️ If kids joined Lieberts st SAME TIME, assuming they appeared together... It must have meaning, that Anna Liebert was at once taken from, then given back to Fortners, as Nina. Because in orphanage she was Nina already... 🤔

Wow I didn’t realize that’s why he killed the Liebert’s great work ! 6:15

I recommend you read Blood Meridian I’m curious about your analysis of judge Holden.

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Dang, you're good.

I acknowledge every statement of this video. However, everything would have been fine if and only if Johan atoned to his crimes(don't deny he did kill many people even though it was for the sake of his sister's welfare) verbally and served a few years in jail then start living normally with Anna/Nina as well as forgive his mother by meeting up and teaching her that what she did at that time was really wrong. Like you guys can't be only seeing the prespective of Johan but not his mother since his mother was also going through alot without anyone by her side plus she was a very young mother thus making such a horrible decision . All of this happend for Bonaparte's experiment but he regrets it at the end. Afterall all we are humans and its ok for humans to make mistake but what is wrong is NOT CONFESSING to their mistake / letting one learn their mistake. I know all of this is hard for Johan himself but he is the only one who can help himself by forgiving his mother and actually put an end to his own misery.

Johan liebert : i'm just want human nonexistent 💀

I went into this video with severe skepticism, as someone who absolutely loves Johan, but still sees him as "evil" - or at least his actions were often evil. But this video was extremely well-made, impressive, and insightful. Great job, Avent! By my definition, Johan is still evil, but the important point that we agree on is: he had a reason for his every action. So, while I still think the title is misleading, I heartily applaud this video. Thanks for making it!!!

I wasn't expecting the ad 💀

Even Johan's past was tragic and everything happened with him in past was wrong. But that doesn't make him right. He killed the middle aged couples for no reason. Even the couples actually cared for them. Still he killed so many innocent.

After watching every single episode of monster I can confirm that Johan isn't evil. He is just a very broken man who couldn't even get the mercy of death to end his suffering twice

If you took 2 months for this.This is worth it.

00:01 Why this guy keep on calling my name ?

We will NOT start a “Johan Did Nothing Wrong” trend 😂

2:40 Johan kills two elderly people. He's evil.

Where I can read other monster it's not available In my country does anyone know where I can read it online..,?

This video is a Masterpiece

You make me want to watch monster

Dude! That VPN placement was masterful LOLOLOLOL

The fact that Johan's background story is very tragic.

wait at the end of monster was Johan caught for his crimes??

What about johan manipulating those kids to get on building rooftop and close their eyes and walk towards each other? How is that helping him save ana ?

Yo Avent Please do what If Johan Libert was in Death Note?

10 minutes in, I stopped. I need to rewatch this masterpiece of an anime because its been so long!

Can you make a video on L similar to Johan ?

I think the main problem with all this is that ultimately, you can say that Johan loves his sister, but the thing is, his ''love'', no matter how well-intentioned he wants to make himself believe it is or wants to give it away, understand, it does not leave in itself in bases, of being a twisted love. love, which is something good,and natural in humanity,being executed like what johan did,it is not truly more of a negative thing,and it should not be like that. And listen to me, my problem is not Johan loving his sister, Johan can perfectly do that, he can perfectly be like any other human being, nothing prevents him from doing so, but that the love he has is expressed and demonstrated in this way. ..it is not a love that I would consider valid. still,great video

The mother was the true monster. K.P never wanted the kids to become monsters, that's why he poisoned all the other red mansion people.

Johan did nothing wrong. Lmao! 🤣 Come on man. Egging on a suicidal father to his death, EASILY makes him evil already...

absolutely facinating video essay with a great moral in the end, however, there's one detail I disagree with. Johan is evil because of the fact that he was intelligent enough to understand what he was doing, no matter how calculated and clinical he was, even if it was for protection, good intentions don't mean you get spared from being evil, though that is a much deeper discussion, which I would love to have. Johan as a character is fascinating, because he's the opposite of grimmer, my favourite character, grimmer, even after everything he's been through, tries to stay human, the magnificent steiner is of course the elephant in the room which you may argue also makes him evil deep down, and that would make me a hypocrite if I said that grimmer for one, had split personalities and his unrestricted brutality could not be controlled, and johan was conscious and aware with every one of his actions as an adult, and the people grimmer killed as steiner were people that put him and the people he cared for in danger. in the end, I do appreciate johan's redemption if you can call him that, as i do believe everyone should be given a second chance, and as I'm writing this, i think i do see that Johan, maybe was never truly evil, he was just a victim of the world around him, guess I'm wrong after all, haha

very well explained

you are incredible

This Johan Leibert video is perfect

This was put together pretty well, however... I feel that with all the effort Avent spent on shedding light on Johan, Avent, in a sense, forgave Johan too easily. By forgiving Johan so much, the entire frame of what is logical, moral, and practical has shifted into a place that doesn't represent reality. Sacrificing this so that Johan can be explained in some other context where dealing murder and sowing corruption is "what he had to do" is only representing him through Johan's own mind and is not really objective. Would another person commit to these kinds of acts to solve Johan's problems? What benefit is it to us who live in reality to understand Johan not through a lens we understand, but though Johan's deviant mind? Another thought I have is this, in reality we generally have standards of things that are logical, moral, and practical. These standards have continually been tested for thousands of years by many kinds of deviants, yet they exist. Institutions have been founded on them - which incidentally serve the larger population. Given this context, Johan, who bucks against this kind of stuff with his murder and corruption, is a deviant. He is not a pioneer, as many like him have come before him in the thousands of years humanity has lived on this Earth. He is simply another challenger - not necessarily by his own intention as much as the fact that he exists and behaves as he does. I could say more, but this is enough.

Was the storyline completely original? Or are some parts true to life? Like 501 Kinderheim?

I fucking love these type of videos w life

every villain has a tragic backstory

well, johan try to kill a innocent child for no reason, By manipulating him. does it was protection for her sister anna? Still you wan't to defend Johan? (he is telling to him self? who loves you?) seriously??

Where is the story of the lil boy searching for his mom? U sure he not evil ?

I am watching this again! till today its the 133rd time. i cant stop watching this!!! AM I GETTING MAD!?

Also make a video about real life white room

preciate it

I love this video alot

Best interpretation

Johann convinces a child to kill himself. If that isn't evil in your world I feel bad for those around you.

I see johan is hard to find because he's using atlas vpn 😂

then why did he manipulate the children to wall on edge of roof

this video is on fire, I'm watching this for the 6th time

He was a murderer.

I dont know that johan use vpn

damn bro you making me feel bad for johan

the fucking goat