MSE may not straighten your septum but it will improve your nasal breathing which is the whole point of a septoplasty. Donate: www.paypal.com... My website: jawhacks.com Instagram: / ronaldead What is MSE? • How MSE Works
Actually, some studies have found that RPE actually partially fixes septum deviations. MARPE brings the nasal floor slight down (0 ~ 2 mm), stretching the septum.
I keep hearing about MSE and how great it is for the breathing and maxilla, however I am in the UK and not the US and I feel they're a lot more narrow minded down here, orthopaedics and may not look positively at MSE and rather see it purely as a route that must only be taken if absolutely necessary. I also heard that you need a certain underbite or something like that in order for the orthopaedic to operate on you and split your maxilla. I dunno, I want to look into it but don't know where to look because this shit isn't in any way mainstream. Go into an orthopaedics and then have them tell me it isn't necessary and how they only do it as a rare procedure.
my deviated septum "straightened" itself a bit and i started to nose breathe from both nostrils since then, just after 7 months of mewing. My nose breathing isnt the best but it has greatly impeoved just by mewing for the first time in my life for 7 months, and since then I am able to even do some sports without mouth breathing. And I will get mse this year, No surgeries will ever improve your situation more than fixing the root of the problem, the maxilla.
I have long face syndrome,deviated septum, and narrow maxilla. I'm currently going thru invisalign trays right now and can't really cancel. Should by next step be MSE or a jaw surgery? what do y'all think is best?
@@prince_sach50 Mse, yes you can cancel, im telling you, orthodontics will kill your jaw and forward growth development. mewing is your best option if you're under 20. If you're over 20 go mse+mewing, anything else is garbage
How strange. I am currently in this exact predicament. I have the option to go for MSE and I visited an ENT last week who told me that I need a septoplasty and turbinate reduction. This is three years AFTER having both done! My palate is extremely narrow, high and arched. I think I would benefit greatly from MSE. I’ve had breathing issues my whole life - currently I’m using breathe right nasal strips for sleep and STILL don’t have clear breathing! Would love to hear back from you Ron with some positive encouragement to go for it!
Hi Ron. You are so right about ENTs. I don’t see it anywhere but have you spoken about the DNA appliances on your channel? I’m interested in your opinion on it.
I think that MSE might have fixed my deviated septum. Before MSE, I went to see a sleep apnea surgeon named Dr. Eric Kezirian who looked in my nose and said I had a deviated septum; after MSE, I went to see another sleep apnea surgeon named Dr. Kasey Li who did a scan and said that my septum was straight. Maybe what happened is that as I did MSE, the roof of my mouth (floor of the nose) dropped down and this fixed my septum; not sure though, I'm just speculating.
MSE is known to fix deviated septums in young children (before age 10) and it’s exactly due to how you described it. The floor of the maxilla drops down and allows the septum to straighten out
@@RichHandsome No. After doing MSE, I ended up doing the EASE procedure (and turb reduction) with Dr. Kasey Li. My breathing is astronomically better now. The EASE procedure with Dr. Li is an improved, better version of MSE. This is because in addition to cutting/splitting the midpalatal suture, Dr. Li also does pterygomaxillary disjunction (PMD) which is the greatest source of resistance to expanding the posterior (back part) part of the maxilla where the soft palate. Posterior maxillary expansion is most significant for improving breathing, especially during sleep in order to resolve sleep disordered breathing. Dr. Li also uses a KLS Martin Distractor which exerts a greater amount of force/torque on the maxilla for expansion and leads to less tipping of the teeth than MSE/MARPE appliances. I think that with a little more forward expansion (next phase of my treatment), I'll probably no longer have sleep-disordered breathing.
I have sleep apnea since childhood and I have a narrow maxilla and a retruded mandible, and I had a septoplasty done to correct a DNS on the advice of an ENT 4 years ago. Nothing changed. I wish I knew this before I had that stupid surgery. Doctors suck atleast the majority of them.
I am also from India.I have continuous breathing issues and cold related issues and a 2 years ago a ENT doctor advised me to do Septoplasty thier was relief for couple of weeks then everything comes back.Now I had visited a orthodontist for my biting issues and he said that the reason for all this is due to my mouth breathing and suggested me to go for MSE.I am really confused what to do!
@@joejacob9299 I'm sorry to hear that brother. Yes mouth breathing can definitely make a lot of things worse, and cause allergies. Do you mouth-breathe in sleep too? MSE may be a good first step, but it depends on what you are trying to address. I'm having the MSE soon for my sleep apnea. Who did you consult in India for the MSE? There are only 3-4 providers here.
I have difficulties in breathing through nose since it is deviated and only able to breathe through one nose,that’s the reason I done septoplasty but nothing change thier was relief for couple of months.Now I consult a orthodontist since I am getting a underbite,he said that everything is related with breathing and do the MSE to cure the issue permanently.I am really confused and worried, what to do?
My working theory about why most doctors, scientists and experts have such notorious tunnel vision is because they are nerds on the autistic spectrum and they have a hard time seeing the big picture as a system. They are stuck in their specialized paradigm.
But doesn't MSE or other expansions favor one side (usually the better side) more than the other? If you already have a hard time breathing through your left nostril, will MSE or other expansion methods help increase the size of that left nasal cavity or only the right nasal cavity which was already doing well?
ive got my mse today in my maxilla. it will be activated Monday,(activated means the doctor splits to suture and after that i turn it by myself the next days until the doctors says its engough... and the deviated septum and the nasal bumps both because of breathing issues will be fixed in septembre, so after the mse. so this video is very specific for my topics*
The title of this video should be - Can MSE CAUSE a deviated septum? Answer is yes because of the disruption that can result from significant maxillary expansion (roof of the mouth is floor of the nose). It happened to me.
If only people ate foods that were harder to chew, like people did in the old days. We don't get enough jaw exercise. I'm lucky my teeth are fairly straight, but jaw is narrow enough that my septum is goofy. Part of that is allergies from a young age, mouth breathing, but someone told me not to mouth breathe when I was young and I took it to heart.
I got deviated septum and adenoid hypertrophy surgery 3 weeks ago. I’m still recovering and I still have a few scabs that come out every now and then, and honestly I think my breathing is slightly better (although I can’t tell for sure because my nose is still not 100% clear from scabs) but I don’t know if it’ll get to the point were my main problem disappears - waking up in the morning tired and with a feeling of lack of oxygen in my lungs. I think MSE would help me but the orthodontist I went to told me If I were to get one It would had have to been a few years ago not now (I’m currently 18) so I’m not sure what to do now besides waiting for a full recovery (Also, first days of recovery from the surgery were hell so I don’t know if I’ll be able to tolerate the MSE)
hang in there and get through the recovery. i'm sure you will get some benefit from it. you are so young and the fact that you are doing this research and learning so much is remarkable. you will figure it out eventually, i know it.
I’ve been wondering this for some time thank you for the analysis! I’ve been battling insomnia for over 5 years now and it’s torture I feel like I’m living a half life. If you don’t mind I was curious how much of an improvement you saw in your sleep after MSE? Was the quality better? Did you sleep deeper or longer?
I just got the MSE in and my suture split and now I have very vivid dreams. I don’t wake up as groggy and I have a lot more REM sleep! I don’t feel like I snore or have breathing issues during the night. Plus I don’t really have to blow my nose as much in the morning! I heard that eventually goes away. The MSE is one of the best things to ever happen to me, I can’t express that enough. I think everyone that can do it, should.
@@annette2009 man thanks so much for responding that’s awesome news for me to hear I have a couple questions I’d really like to ask if you have a minute like where you got it done what doctor did and what the cost was is there any social media I can reach you on possibly ? 🙏🏻
hello ron, i have a big dilema since i've started watching some of your videos. is there any way to contact you privately in order to ask a few questions? i would very much appreciate it, thanks in advance!
JewStudios not much these days. Both aren’t really the best option to look the best. You’ll have a straight smile but more than likely average or fucked up jaws
I have an underbite do to an underdeveloped Maxilla, i can barely breathe outta my nose sometimes, do you think i should try MSE or just go straight to jaw surgery? I'm currently practicing tongue posture.
i had an operation on my third tonisl and septum then 2 laser reduction of trubinates, nobody ever mention this stuff, such a damn shame, people get syndroms like ENS because of this!
Do u think that after 1 year of mse treatment your breath will be worst again? It's complety true when u talking about septum surgery, i did it the last year in july. After 8-9 months, i feel less improvement but now i can breath with atleast 1 side from nose.
Jaw Hacks, too bad...you could teach some instructors in dental school a thing or two. I graduated top of my class in dental school, passed the board exam with the highest score in the nation during that exam. I soak everything in...they teach you that the palatal suture cannot be split once it seals as an adult. I had to disagree. The body is constantly able to change with force. Our entire body turns-over in like 7 years. (Except for nerve tissue) we are a brand new being...why wouldn’t a simple palatal split not be achievable? Of course it would!
Careful not to overdo Buteyko, it can cause more problems than it solves for some people. I’ve found it better to focus on cold immersion Instead since it naturally reduces respiration rate whereas its easy to overdo Buteyko method if you arent careful
What type of cold immersion? I only end my shower with cold water. What do you mean by 'overdo Buteyko'? I do diaphragmatic breathing. I have found it very beneficial. NM
Do you think a regular rpe can increase nasal volume at all as an adult or is it just not severe enough? My breathing isn't horrible but very inconsistent
antonio ferreira So if your zygos are/is narrow then that means your nasal volume is limited as well? Oddly enough I have quite prominent cheekbones and had an oral surgeon tell me I had large sinuses after looking at my x-rays. I don’t even know what kind of health care provider to consult in order to make sense of all this.
sorry im new to this. i get breathing problems and heard about this mse. Can mse work if i am 25? if not then wat route i need to take please tell me. i want to expand my palate, maxilla and then later use invasalign to fix teeth/overebite. wat should i do at this age of 25?
@siemenssx1 I've definitely got an allergy to something my eyes are always red and dry. I think it's a dust allergy but I haven't yet found out exactly what it is
He has a video in it but tbh you shouldn't be on this channel if you're worried about pain my man. Beauty is pain and remember pain is temporary look at the bigger picture
