Can Portal 64 be saved? - Libdragon 

nah, quitter

@@stanb1455?

​@@stanb1455bruh, what? You know what Valve and Nintendo could do, touch grass

Awe sheet, I'm SCEARED, you will be sued, so lets buy the support, let's go bois!!!!!!

stop being a push over and just make the damn game, god i hate people that are cowards because of big companies

Love your videos! Hope you find some more micro seconds 👍

The man, The Myth, The Legend: Kaze!

Arianna what are you doing here! Love your work my guy.

I love how this N64 community comes together and supports each other like this

Meeting the geenius

Fancy seeing you here, AI safety dread man.

This is why they would record their gameplay on VHS and have the code in the corner

My favorite AI safety commentator!

Yeah, the Demo showed that it was totally possible and only needed more time and resources.

uhhh it's still under active development on github. it'll be out eventually. y'all are declaring defeat wayyy too early

As far as i can tell it's still being worked on github with the portal64: still alive repo having commits 2 days ago. Its effectively become community only now as he can't work on it since valve said no.

Which is exactly why I don't believe anyone should show a fan project before it's entirely finished. This happens time and time again and yet still people are like, look at this cool thing I'm making, then are surprised when it gets shut down. I know you want to show off your work and it can be motivating to see people loving what you've done, but in the end if your goal is to put out a finished thing, just wait until you have a finished thing. Then it doesn't matter what happens.

As long as it's distributed as a mod for Portal, Valve doesn't get a say either way. As far as I know, this whole problem started because James wanted to distribute Portal64 on Steam. If he drops that, legally, he doesn't need Valve's permission to continue development, even using libultra (although that would expose him a lawsuit from Nintendo, so switching to libdragon would be a good idea anyway). What I really think is happening is that he grew bored of the project (all the technical challenges solved, only grind left) and this is a convenient excuse to quit.

This is generally the worst legal advice for fan projects. Feigning ignorance isn't a valid defense strategy.

​@@ColorblindMonkAlmost every fan project for anything exists because the original creator doesn't care, whether because it's not worth their time to take the project down, they don't know it exists, or they're fine with fan projects but don't specifically endorse any

I'd still love to know why they care this much about projects built on top of source code from 26 years ago

​@@RoshiGaming I think a big misunderstanding is that all of Nintendo is against fan projects and stuff, which simply isn't the case. The main people against it are the people working at Nintendo HQ in Japan and those are scared shitless of losing their successful IPs by not protecting them. Nintendo is nothing without having Mario or Zelda so they'll do everything to protect them. I think the main factor at play is the legal trouble they found themselves in when Warner Bros tried to steal Donkey Kong from them due to Nintendo supposedly copying King Kong. Ever since then Nintendo has been very careful with their IPs and source code because they fear to lose it all from just a small legal miss-step

Sad to say, too, this also applies to most console manufacturers. They don't care about game preservation or hardware preservation, because those things have an impact on their ability to foist newer and "better" products on their customers. Nintendo is just the most egregious example of this.

​@@RoshiGaming Property owners need to be able to own everything they possibly can and be able to leverage anything possible at any time, even if it has no use to them anymore. It's just how those kinds of people are.

We have Disney to thank for the intellectual property laws that force Nintendo to do this if they realistically want to stay in business.

Well, OpenGL 1.1 is from 1 year after the N64. Still impressive though, I wouldn't even know where to start with something like that.

@@henryfleischer404 Imagine if n64 ship with OGL 1.0 back in the days! all games would be more or less compatible with modern hardware. and of course emulators will be easier in some aspects because an ogl 1.0 compliant application should work the same on any other ogl 1.0 implementation. That would be awesome! PS: Even today, Mesa have to emulate fixed function pipeline in modern hardware to run OGL 1.0 apps.

*an SGI (because "ess-gee-eye" starts with a vowel sound) "A" vs "an" is determined by the _sound_ that immediately follows, not the letter. It also doesn't matter what an initialism stands for.

@@alvallac2171 Thanks! I am not a native english speaker I will edit that! :)

@@alvallac2171 its up for debate in text

There's a few games that actually have spell crafting similar to this, Mages of Mystralia being one that's on steam and very cute, however it's top down. However having it as a 3D platformer also sounds great so I'm looking forward to where this project is going.

That’s so wizard anni

reminds me of the owl house's magic

​@@adora_was_takenrune magic systems are so cool tbh it's a good execution of one for the medium of TV

One of the most interesting solutions I've seen to this problem is to implement a system where the player *draws* their spells using representational pictographs. Then you can use shared similarities to 'invent' new spells before they're taught to you. Let's say you know a wind spell and a fireball spell, and then you learn a 'strong wind' spell that just looks like the regular wind spell with an extra circle around it. Well, why not add a circle like that to your fireball spell? Congratulations, you've just created a 'strong fireball' spell. Okami implements a drawing system that would be perfect for that kind of experimentation, but doesn't utilize it as well as it could. The original DS version of Ni no Kuni did the same thing but *much* better, since you were physically drawing on the bottom screen. It's tragic that this spell-drawing system was replaced with a simple list in the PS3 remake instead of being implemented with an on-screen drawing function like Okami. But at least you can play the DS version with a full fan-translation!

Cool concept. I think he could get away with it if he uses a complete diferent lore/story and aesthetics. Also, he needs to twist a little all the levels so they aren't exactly the same. In the end, it is completely unrelated to Valve and/or Nintendo. Something similar to Super Tux Kar compared to Mario Kart.

Hell from Hortal getting Had by haDOS- the Hideo ga- *gets copyrighted by Kojima*

Effectively, ​@@lmk10000, it becomes an iteration of Narbacular Drop for the N64. Unless if there are problems copying the aesthetics of that game. Which means going in a theme different from "science lab" and "fantasy".

@@oscarcacnio8418 could be very interesting copying that concept or something similar.

is there still a way to get the original Portal 64?

@@TalentedAndHot there isn't a phorum where you can't find the ROM AND you can't download ir if you dont search portal For Nintendo 64 rom

not unless there is a release, we can't seed from nothing.

If only there was some kind of archive, like an org if you will... 🤔🤔🤔 💪🏽🏴‍☠️👍🏽

@@bunnybreaker the romance of CD

Noita is addicting af

Noita was hardly the first game to use parametric spell creation. Magica is a well known example that this game feels much closer to, though I like the Minecraft mod Ars Magica 2, and its successors Wizardry and Psi.

@@Scrogan Hex casting is also interesting

Be the change you want to see in the world

my immediate thought haha

hahah so right

Finally... Quest 65

truuuuu

It is impossible for me to feel truly bad for people who publicly advertise the project they are making that uses an IP they don't own and how sad / upset / disheartened they are by the inevitable and completely understandable C&D. It is why I always recommend to anyone who is planning to spends years making a game to just make their own unique content from the get go, just take concepts and elements from the game you so desperately want to appropriate.

​@CrAzYpotpie they don't need you to do that and I hope they continue spitting in the face of Nintendo forever

@@halcyonacoustic7366 Feel free to point out what I said that you disagreed with.

@@CrAzYpotpie Shakespeare should've just stopped writing about that silly Lear guy, what an unoriginal hack

@@slizzysluzzer Feel free to point out what I said that you disagreed with.

How is that project going?

Made by the same people as Helldivers! Did you ever play the mobile spinoff?

if you go much much further back LOOM is also similar in the way that you construct spells, but in that case out of notes.

Don't bother with single player. Their Gauntlet remake was not good either.

@@balsalmalberto8086 Single player is significantly harder for sure~ but learning how to protect against certain elements and what does/doesn't work to kill certain enemies was part of the fun for me.

I still have QFQFAAD embedded in my brain from Magicka 1. Loved the game! :)

*companies To pluralize a noun that ends in -y, drop the -y and add -ies.

@@alvallac2171always nice to get a grammar lesson in yt comments! /gen

⁠@@alvallac2171loser, singular

lol

@@alvallac2171 somebody called the grammar police

Morrowind too. It also wasn't super fancy but it let you combine effects of every spell you knew and set things like the spell's range, duration, and strength, all of which would affect its magicka cost to cast and its gold cost to make. I wonder if anyone's ever modded a system like that into Skyrim.

@@IndigoGollum This exists. It's called Spell Crafting for Skyrim on the nexus

YAY!!!....wait yay

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Unfortunately that wouldnt work either, again due to distribution outside of steam

@@commander3494 There is an SDK called PSn00bSDK that has nearly all of the features of the Sony SDK, but is independent of it, so at least that wouldn't cause a problem.

@@commander3494 Just bundle the rom inside an emulator executable and only distribute that. Or just fake it and do a demake with intentional affine texture warping.

"Sony shall not be as kind as VALVe." Unless if they truly do not care about the PS1 anymore.

@@soviut303 or add DRM that requires the ROM to call home via steamworks API, i've done that for other projects that run on retro hardware, and with modern flashcarts its easy to implement on the N64, you can even encrypt the payload with a custom IPL3 or embedded AES key that's fused in a cart for a physical release, not impossible to workaround of course, as pirates have little morality in such matters.

Also the wizard in the "Gauntlet" remake

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When someone outside of valve's and Nintendo's jurisdiction ports it.