@@7743dustinI found a camera shop on eBay (17th Street Photo) that had 5 brand new ones in stock. I also had Adorama send me an email a couple weeks ago notifying of new stock. I suggest starting with signing up for Adorama’s and B&H’s email notifications.
I got gr3x 10 months ago and I did 10 times more photo with is compairing to my ff mirrorless at the same period Gr3x is unbeatably good for family and street photography
I've been a champion and user of the EOS M6 II with the 22 F/2. Small...pocketable, and when you're tired of the "35mm", you can still change lenses. Good MPx count and AF good as well. Look at getting one refurbished/used, and can be had for around $700 as a kit. Its my daily - along with the 11-22 ef-m and 56mm f/1.4 Sigma. Biggest gripe I hear about the EOS M6 II is that the "mount" is dead. Well...more options than a fixed lens at least.
Same here. The system is dead but... really, I don't need more, just keeping it until breaks 😅 also 22mm 90% of time, and 11-22 walk around, and keeping 15-45 in some scenarios. There are also a lot of manual lenses 8-10-35-50-135 to play with... it is underrated, people just want the latest always
I just took my X100VI and my Nikon Zf with me to Italy for a couple weeks and I loved shooting the X100VI. It was nice walking around in all conditions and not worrying about weatherproofing unlike my GRIIIX. Not to mention how nice a viewfinder and tilting screen make seeing your shot much easier than the GR. My only gripe about the Fuji is at times you think you’ve snagged a shot but haven’t because the shutter button/release aren’t that tactile. All around love the X100VI.
Sony ZV1 is actually really good for video - I have it in my backpack and it takes up much less space than apsc. The selfie screen and wind muff make it very practical, too.
100% agree. I don't even own one. You've got to know the opinions seen here are pure copium. Idk if he's making this video to convince himself or his wife that their summer holiday fund is gone for a very alright compact from 2019, but this time the high res R version. 😂 The ZV1 would sort most of the people trying to buy this camera.
as a ZV1 mk1 owner, i can vouch for that. great quality images/videos on that tiny beast without the hefty pricetag. i bought mine new for ~US$500 because i'm upgrading from my iPhone 13 Pro and to cure my Ricoh GR itch; no ragrets. currently using the camera for street/documentary-style photography and now just started recording myself for some silly short videos and drum covers, that Sony AF is great no cap. i feel like as though Kai is either on copium or on Fuji's payroll, it just feels forced af lol.
@@sauzefilms 💯 It was usually Lok that gave compacts a real shot through the years, Kai was typically always into the fashion camera style. He did like the X100T when that came out. Almost convinced me to buy it. That's the regret copium he's one though. $1600 for an X100V from 2019 with a high resolution sensor has to sting a bit if you think too deeply about it. 😂
@@-greyyou mean the same camera with completely new internals, new body and latest and newest software? Anyone even considering the x100 primarily for video and vlogging needs their heads checking, though. It's clearly photography first, offering video improvements because it's part of the sensor / processor package on its higher end ILC cameras. The Zv1 is for simple vlogging and video, with photography also. Completely opposite priorities. It just can't compete with x100 cameras from even several generations ago for photography. And having used both, thebl ZV1 is rather counterintuitive for on-the-fly adapting to the changing situations, whether light, subject, look. It's really quite clunky. The x100 or other Fuji cameras with dials and always there EVF or OVF it takes getting used to but then it's a question of a few seconds only. Different cameras for different kinds of shooters. I've recommended the ZV1 to people that aren't really into photography and just want something small for primarily better video than their phones. The x100 is really for people that enjoy the process itself and know their way around a higher end camera but want a compact and discrete alternative. People that just like the looks will be happy enough to start with, but really they'd be better off with something else. Really into video and want to take it up a notch, also add a thousand or two to the price of the ZV1. But as a simple, compact package its a good upgrade for most smartphone users or upgraders from older compact cameras.
I mean a more sensible alternative would be arguably a Leica M 240 if the x100 vi costs around 2-3000 pounds second hand. The focus isn't a problem for a skilled photographer(some people can focus almost as fast as autofocus with a rangefinder). In terms of compactness, you might consider getting a light lens lab 35mm f2(replica of the legendary leica summicron 35mm f2 v1) or a voigtlander. If you want a 50, you might consider the summicron(v1 or v3)
The best alternatives would either be the Ricoh GR III/IIIx, the Sony A7c/ A7cii or Fuji's own X-T5. Sony would knock both Fujifilm and Ricoh out of the park if they add film simulations and focus more on photography on their next cameras. The rumors of a Kodak collab would be amazing.
I just can't wait until we have a GRiv. The GRiii is so old at this point. I love mine, it's almost always in my pocket, but it is feeling a bit old at this point.
Tbh you can stick any equivelant 35mm lens on any camera with a decent fast aperture and you can have the equivelant of the x100vi for photography. I've no interest in a fixed focal range camera but good luck to those who are seeking one out.
It’s a completely different experience though. You’d have to give it a try. Doesn’t have to be the latest model. I have an X100f that’s pretty much always with me
So many small lenses out there available for most mirrorless cameras. Though I wish Sony would redesign their 50mm f1.8. That thing is light but bulky.
@@matthiasj.3332 I used to shoot the X70 and I agree on the experience, but after going back to the Ricoh PSAM I don't miss it. If fun gets you out shooting then that's all that matters - it's not better just different, and fresh might be all you need. This is surprisingly the only compact that review tube will praise. So I'm all for it if it drives attention back to compacts. Most of the big channels didn't even give the Nikon Z30 a chance, nor the M6II, nor the a7C. They usually just complain about how their hands are too big. 😂
There is the Olympus Pen F (The digital one, not film) in the $200-$300 if you want interchangeable lens, IBIS, EVF and in a similar size to the X100. Just pair with an appropriate prime lens of your choice.
Hi Kai and Lok - strange that no one on youtube mentions the Leica CL in this area of compact, cool, APS-C cameras. Super sharp and very filmic quality. I noticed you had a couple of seconds of the Leica X2 but the CL is more modern and has the great 18mm TL pancake if you want super compact or of course loads of M mount options with adaptor. All the best
One major advantage of the X100 series that no one seems to mention is the on camera flash. I do a lot of street and night photography and the flash comes in handy more often than not. Film p&s like the T4 and Stylus had flashes, which were a major part of the appeal to me. I would get a GR or Q3 if they had a flash, but I opted for an Xt30ii with 18mm lens to have a wider view backup for my X100f that still has a flash.
Cheap alternatives: Sony Ax00 with the Sony 20mm f2.8 pancake or Olympus EM10 Mk2 or mk3/Panasonic GX80 + Panasonic 20mm f1.7. And with the spare 1000$ you can actually go on a vacation.
Definitely 'made it this far' Kai. Great video as they always are with you two guys. I just picked up an X100VI and am really pleased with it. But your video on possible alternatives made for compulsive watching.
Why are the earlier editions never mentioned or considered? I am still very happy running my X100F and that thing has proven to be quite the camera even in 2024.
I'd totally love to have a Fuji XV100 camera, but I live in Brazil and walking around with an expensive camera like that here isn't the brightest idea.
When you use a soft shutter release and a thumb grip. You hold the camera differently and dont press the shutter with the tip of your finger, but rather where your finger prints are. Or even lower on the flat underside of your finger. The shutter release makes it easier to press it down with minimal pressure like that. Causing less camera shake.
A blue filter when Kai did the POV shot of Lok would have been a nice touch. Both fellows looking spiffy today! Sad truth is that the X100s aren't pocketable unless you're wearing a coat.
Ricoh GR III is very fragile with it's retractable lens. The ribbon cable inside that handles focus and shutter got bent inside my Ricoh GR and it was no longer usable, it's a common issue. I'd go for Fujifilm x70 since it has no outer moving parts.
Yes, I had a GR3, treated it with kid gloves, scared of dust or breaking it. Didn't take it abroad. Sold it recently and happy with Pixel 8a. Don't think I'll get another camera.
It is not completely the same, but I have much older Fujis and you can easily zone focus with every the lens using the digital focus scale in the evf or lcd, and/or the Af lock mode.
@@konmorse I'm used to looking down at the lens or feeling the focusing position with a tab (coming from Leica M). The all-digital interface makes sense in the existing X system but I think is missing a few convenience features
I ordered the x100 vi, while waiting for it I got nostalgic and got a canon 1Ds mk3 + 50mm f1.2 L and the combo was almost half the price of the Fuji, I think I’m going to cancel the x100. Love the Canon combo.
Funny to think that a Leica M8 with a lens can be had for less than an X100VI (I actually got mine for less than an X100V), and then you get a larger sensor, a real rangefinder and classic camera controls, all things that the X100 tries to mimic. PLUS its made in Europe.
Well yes but the M8 is very limited to low ISO and barely a bigger sensor than that of the X series. Great camera don’t get me wrong but I doubt you’re using Leica glass for that price, and that’s the min thing of Leica photography.
I couldn't get the X100VI or the Nikon Zf so I went for the X-T5, and I love it, but it's not a camera you always carry with you. The Sony Rx100V I have is perfect for that. Or the X100 OG. Got a X-Pro1 but also that is relatively big to always carry around. Anyway just to say that I really didn't need the X-T5, just a bit faster to use X100 (only because I prefer Fuji colors to Sony, otherwise the RX100 would have been perfect). Forget the Mpx race, true it gives cropping powers, but at what cost?
I got my X100S for US$ 125. I've also read someone else got their X100T(?) for about US$200ish(don't really remember). So getting the old X100 series within US$200 - 300 is possible.
I have GRiii and X100f. Ricoh is used way, way more. The X100 series are lovely, and I totally get the appeal, but they are in no way ‘pocket’ cameras. And I prefer the Ricoh raw files for countryside and vegetation.
What about an x-e4 with a 27mm or a sony zv-e10 with some f2.8 pancake? Might be more interesting alternatives to a x100vi for those who would not consider a 3000 euro Leica.
A fixed lens non-weather sealed digital camera (like the Ricoh GR) is a total fail. It lets dust get on the sensor with no way to clean it other than taking the camera apart to get to the sensor!
Enjoy your fun approach and "made for radio voice". A conversation between friends is an engaging way to review gear. This video started to ramble on a just a little bit as it went on (sorry). Wouldn't the Nikon Fc be a valid comparison at the start as an alternative for a carry-in-your pocket camera, especially when you start adding hoods, grips etc. to the Fuji? You mentioned it very briefly a fair way into the video but could have shown it. X100VI 521g. 128 x 75 x 55 mm Nikon Fc Body Only 445g. 135 x 94 x 44 mm + Z 40mm f/2 SE 168g Carry the Z 28mm in your other pocket 😊 Perhaps doesn't look as cool 😎 or Leica-like with the viewfinder on top but is more versatile. Styling and rarity seems to be part of the appeal.
I owned a Fuji XE4 until recently. It's a very good alternative to the X100 series. Xt4 sensor, amazing black and white pictures. And you can change the lenses. I ended up selling it because I wasn't fond of the Fujifilm autofocus system and didn't use it much. But it's a wonderful small sized camera!
my 300€ alternative to the X100VI? Well... An X100S ! Those are the cheapest X100 cameras you can find, as the original if taking back some value becoming more of a collector's item more than a used camera nowadays. The X100S has all the improvements coming from the newer sensor and processor (which weren't upgraded going to the X100T), and it doesn't have that "first" aura than the X100 has, being cheaper than both the X100 and X100T, but performing just as good as the X100T, and being a sizeable upgrade over the X100 ! Best of both worlds. I picked mine up locally in France for 300€, even came with 6 batteries, a dual charger, a couple of straps and a leather case !
Can you make a list of the alternatives at the end of the description? Because other than the 3 you had on hand its hard to find where you've shown other alternatives.
pen f would be great if you don't mind m43. I have one and bring it everywhere. but if they make a pen f ii would be great but I doubt it. the new olympus ep7 is also great i think for compact. the other one is sony rx1 also great it is fullframe
If they could have put PDAF in the F, I'd have it already. I'd probably still get the EM5III until then personally. Sacrifice a little fun for a little less frustration. The EP and EPL lines are great too, same problem though. Even the ZV1 has Sony PDAF.
shame that canon killed eos m series, but I think M5/M6/m100/m50 with 22mm pancake lens are still unbeatable (still using M6 II and keep buying the rest of ef-m lens)
To me, the "fun" of the optical viewfinder is negated by having to switch to the electronic viewfinder to use that "best-In-class" autofocus. With the amount of smart tech on smartphone cameras, I don't see the point of a compact point and shoot at the price of a Fuji X1006. In that situation, I'd get a used Sony a7c and one of the more compact lenses like the 40mm f/2.5. That would run you around $1800. Now you'd have a FF camera with a very good compact lens that all together weighs ~180g more (.4 lbs). The Sony will have better autofocus, dynamic range, and high iso performance.
I hope you’re right. There is some hope as Ricoh did come out with the GRiiiX for those of us not wanting the 28mm FOV. That being said, I’m not optimistic about Ricoh adding an EVF to their GR series. These cameras are designed with the thought of one hand use. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Not only does Kai have a huge expensive camera collection, he also has a couple Goros pendants on his necklace. Those can go up to $3500 USD for just one of them. Huge flex, Kai. I see you.
My X100s has died :-( Do I go for a vi, or accept that by the time one is available, Nikon might have brought out a digital SP or Zeiss might have resurrected Contax and a digital G2?
I think people are buying x100vi because it's a x100 series (retro looking compact camera). They wear them like jewellery, to show off to people. If you're just looking for a better alternative COMPACT CAMERA, regardless the design, every other camera brand (including Fuji themselves) has a compact interchangeable mirrorless camera with a pancake lens that might even be better in quality compared to x100vi
for me, the soft release button helps a lot, because on my x100f, i kinda have to dig my finger into it to take the photo, with the soft release its easier 🤣 i have only one camera the x100f since 2017, kinda wish its a 28 instead of a 35, other than that i love it very much, the optical is way better than evf, im left eye dominant so not having to put down the camera to see the scene helps a lot, love you & lok's videos! ✌️
Sorry you aren’t too keen on the 35mm point of view. I’m the opposite of you. I don’t like the 28mm FOV. It is too wide. I have to get too close to my subjects. Also I have to be more aware of the edges of the frame. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Haha !! That was the most relaxed and ‘chumy’ video I’ve seen for a long time. Strangely endearing, yet still informative about the x100v1 and other poss alternative compacts. U mentioned the Q3, but not the Q, which can now be bought, used, for about £2k / Anyway, thanks for a very relaxed & enjoyable review. 👍👍
I used to own the fuji x10, it was a great little camera. the filters where great back then too. but not exactly pocketable. im waiting for a new sony rx1. for now i just use the zv1.
gr3? Don't underestimate Sony's RX100 series! Sony rx100 5a,6...difficult menu but fantastic build quality, all magnesium alloy, formidable electronic viewfinder, manual control, fantastic photos. Unfortunately very little appreciated, what do you think?
remember that ‚already sold‘ eBay listings can be easily faked about the X100VI (to drive up the prices), so it’s not necessarily accurate for hype products
I too want a RX1R II. They are still more expensive than a new X100VI, even with the premium. Maybe Sony will come out with the RX1R iii. Bet that will cost closer to $4k. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
So you're saying the best camera is my xiaomi 14 ultra because it's a Leica, has lots of megapixels, has a choice of focal lengths, and is also the most compact, even with a grip and filters tweaked?
Id love a fuji x100IV but if theres a camera id love more it would be the sony rx1r. I know its got an evf but you can buy a seperate hot shoe optical finder for it too. It looks perfect but no longer made
I wish the x100 series had a better lens on it. It's a great lens, but I find it lacking for a lot of what I do. Even a TTartisan lens is leagues better than the x100 lens, in my opinion. Though my experience with the series is only the 100F
It's incredible that the a7CII and a7CR with the 35f2.8 Zeiss are basically the same size as the X100 after you slap on the hood and necessary grip. It's about the same equivalent light, focal length and everything. Except better dynamic range than the Fujifilm, better IQ than the mushy x-trans files, and way better AF than the same thing Fujifilm have been using since the X-T2. The only difference is the a7C is more expensive, unless you buy from a scalper. 😂
ive got the A7CR, problem is the lack of small lenses, samyang 24 and 35 are okay, but its not the small option I wanted it to be, its not the camera but the FF lenses are the problem
@@jukeboxjohnnie Zeiss 35f2.8 or Samyang is all you need. The X100 won't be doing any more than that anyway - it's a fixed 35mm machine. Once the hood and accessories are on they're the same size. Plus, the a7CR still has other options like the new 24, or 40 and also aps-c lenses too. So the full frame lens size is really a non-issue.
The Fuji has film simulations and most importantly, the looks. Sony focusing on video is the reason why they are trailing this segment. I do not want a camcorder when I buy a dedicated camera.
@@dyeremi Every camera has these. Film simulations are scene presets with legacy film names attached to them, which they don't really accurately simulate at all. It's a marketing gimmick to rename Standard, Vivid, Neutral, Portrait, Muted, and then all the extra ones like Cross Process, Hard Black and White, Soft Black and White etc. 🤦 If you can't do "film simulations" in any camera then that's a skill issue. Some brands have even more customizable parameters, Sony & Canon have the most available to fully control your jpeg image via the Picture Profile menu or the Camera Window app. Just say you like retro-looking camera bodies and stop the cope. It's totally a fine reason to buy a camera, just don't try to dress it up as more than it is. 😂
