Can The New Raspberry Pi 5 Really Replace Your Desktop PC?

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The Raspberry Pi 5 is a tiny computer that is packed with power. It is capable of running a wide range of tasks, including web browsing, word processing, media playback, and even some light gaming. But can it replace a desktop PC?
In this video, we take a look at the Raspberry Pi 5 and see how it performs compared to a traditional desktop PC. We also discuss the pros and cons of using a Raspberry Pi 5 as a desktop replacement.
Overall, the Raspberry Pi 5 is a great option for people who are looking for a low-cost, energy-efficient, and flexible computing device. However, it is important to keep in mind that it is not a replacement for a traditional desktop PC for all users.
If you are considering using a Raspberry Pi 5 as a desktop replacement, be sure to do your research to make sure that it is the right device for you.
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@joels7605 11 месяцев назад

Somebody makes the desktop replacement argument every time a new Raspberry Pi is released. You can use it as a desktop replacement so long as your expectations are appropriate and you don't ask too much of the board.

@TheTastefulThickness 11 месяцев назад

That line keeps moving up

@SweatyFeetGirl 11 месяцев назад

it will always be like that until Raspberry Pi will use a proper SoC. websites get more demanding , thats why the speed of the pi will almost stay the same lol

@epsileth 11 месяцев назад

Pi 4 works as long as you only do one thing at a time, and are willing to be a bit patient. Hoping the pi 5 usb c works with a hub for data transfer.

@richardmcgowan1651 11 месяцев назад

Not falling for that trap again. Pis are really good for eduction and teaching. Would argue the ex-office PCs you can grab for cheap still would beat out the Pi 5 for anything you would use one for.

@joels7605 11 месяцев назад

@@LP_APUgamerYou must be either 12 years old or slept through the last decade. People were making the exact same argument all the way back to the first generation Beagleboards running Angstrom Linux, before Rasperry Pis even existed.

@ZeoWorks 11 месяцев назад

I'm kinda surprised at the video playback, are you sure it's using hardware acceleration? I think chromium might have this disabled by default (might be mistaken).

@nyanmisaka 11 месяцев назад

The three common video encoding formats h264, vp9 and av1 used by RU-vid are not supported by the RPi 5's only h265/hevc hardware decoder. So the frame drops are not surprising.

@ZeoWorks 11 месяцев назад

Interesting, I thought the RPi5 supported a lot more codecs than that. Especially since they have solid encoders.@@nyanmisaka

@Anondrops 3 месяца назад

@@nyanmisaka Thanks for the information

@Xeliman-24 8 дней назад

Very bad this there wasn't space to put them.

@GustavoMsTrashCan 11 месяцев назад

Even a potato can be a "desktop pc replacement" if you have lower expectations.

@AAL2012 11 месяцев назад

Explain how🤔

@GRAS_gadgetsRepairAISimulators 11 месяцев назад

@@AAL2012no where in that statement does it say that it has to be faster. A "replacement" could be far worse than the replaced yet still be considered a replacement if the replaced is no longer used. As the word "replace" is defined.

@azwihangwisimulaudzi1097 11 месяцев назад

Please explain, already bought 3 bags of potatoes

@d.molina5644 11 месяцев назад

@@azwihangwisimulaudzi1097 I think he's talking about the Le Potato SBC from LibreComputer

@shlokshah5379 11 месяцев назад

@@azwihangwisimulaudzi1097you have to connect it to a ti 82 calculator and play doom.

@pranze3484 11 месяцев назад

0 reason to use this over a cheaper n100. Pi has very poor codecs support for instance.

@aliendroid8174 3 месяца назад

The main benefit with getting the most mainstream thing, the raspberry pi in this case, is that it's much easier to find community resources for it online

@HIDLad001 2 месяца назад

Lower power consumption. But there is no reason to use the Pi 5 over an RK3588 based SBC.

@AFistfulOf4K 11 месяцев назад

I'd love them to put Pi 5 into their keyboard chassis like they did with the Pi 4, then it would just need a wireless mouse to be a full capable desktop PC, a bit like a Commodore.

@mattx5499 9 месяцев назад

Better get decent quality wireless keyboard + mouse set. Dedicated Raspberry Pi keyboard is just cheap ass chicklet keyboard known from budget laptops not good for decent desktop experience. If you wan't that all-in-one like PC with Pi just mount it behind your monitor. Still RPi as a desktop PC will be rather lacking. You can get used Dell all-in-one PC with Intel i5 on board for twice the price of the Pi. It will be more capable with any popular Linux distro. RPi is great platform for tinkering and retrogaming but not as good as Intel or AMD based PC that can cost only a little bit more than Pi board.

@impulse959 3 месяца назад

Buy a decent keyboard and 3d print the case with a spot for the pi in it.

@richardmcgowan1651 11 месяцев назад

Would rather spend the extra few bucks and grab one of the cheaper mini PCs. Pis are really only good for eduction and very specific things. An ex-office PC would be a better option overall.

@milescarter7803 11 месяцев назад

He is talking 8GB. For the cheaper ex office mini PCs once you buy power supply and case/USB drive you could have a HP Mini, Dell Micro, Lenovo Tiny with 16GB and an NVMe 512GB. *same price*

@russc788 11 месяцев назад

The Pi has lower power usage right? That matters to me as it would be a second pic running media etc

@waynerowlinson6177 11 месяцев назад

I've used an 8GB Pi4 hooked up to my bedroom TV for over 2 years. It is fine for basic browsing and streaming movies. The faster USB storage will be welcome once I'm able to get a Pi5. Being able to swap out the Micro-SD card on the Pi4 to turn it into an instant retro gaming system is awesome, and I'll end up doing the same with the Pi5. Thanks for the video!

@Marauder-q2v Месяц назад

But why not use a PC with an N100?

@waynerowlinson6177 Месяц назад

@@Marauder-q2v I have a few 1 Litre Micro-PCs that I use. An i3-7130u, an i5-3470T, and although slow, it still works, a J1800 Dual Core Celeron. I have Windows 11 on the first one and Windows 10 on the other two. The first two are actually nice and fast doing basic web browsing and streaming. The J1800 suffers a bit, but is still useable... faster than my Pi 4 anyways.

@pierpig7058 11 месяцев назад

Honestly for that price it's plenty of better options, there are i5 8gb ram refurbished mini desktop or even brand new mini PC with Intel N95 , Raspberry is a good option for specific projects where the size really metters.

@MayaPosch 11 месяцев назад

To be fair, if you want to have an efficient little desktop system within the same power envelope (~6 W) with lots of I/O options, you want to get something like an Intel N100-based MiniPC. That way you can run Linux, even Windows and you get all of the benefits of having a modern desktop system, including AV1 decoding and much more. Been using one of those systems for a month now after struggling with an RPi 4B before, and it's honestly been an amazing experience. Won't play the latest-and-greatest 3D titles, but just about anything else just works.

@kakalv9152 11 месяцев назад

at this point the only reason to go for a pi is if you need to rely on the arm architecture or need the gpio's. The n100 floors the pi in day to day desktop usage. i got one recently and have been shocked at how good the performance is

@xeienar 11 месяцев назад

I mean, new Intel N100 chipsets are just rebranded celerons. These CPUs use a mix of new stuff (like AV1 decoding) with old manufacturing process, so Intel can recycle and sell this crap to emerging countries (aka. sell overpriced e-waste). So that is why we still have an intel HD integrated graphics of 2011 with a different name on those chips, while we could have Iris graphics way long ago. These CPUs also suffer from major throttling. Going down to 0.90ghz when the temperature starts being an issue (an issue for Intel apparently is just 75ºC in a ridiculous 10W CPU consumption) and the experience turns quickly into a miserable one. I had one of these machines (from one old older, a N4500) to mess with and it is horrible. Can't believe this chipset is officially supported by Windows 11. I had to use third party stuff such as ThrottleStop to at least do something with it. When these chipsets run cool they are okay machines. However, I would get an AMD minipc instead. AMD may have some drivers issues in Windows and Linux, but at least they don't turn themselves into an expensive paper weight with half the power of a Pentium 4 when they are little hot.

@MayaPosch 11 месяцев назад

@@xeienar The N95, N100 and up (N300) etc. in the Alder Lake family are a far cry from those older chips. They use Xe-LP for the iGPU and a much more refined process node for the 4-8 Skylake-based 'efficiency cores'. No SMT, but in benchmarks the CPU itself comes pretty close to the performance of a 2015-era i7 6700K (first Skylake), which was the high-end CPU of the time.

@qnprogrammer 11 месяцев назад

This is a nice little computer for hobbies. For desktop, I'd rather some up some money and buy something like a Mac mini M2 for $499 with student discount and it comes with 8GB, 256GB SSD, fan, etc. You can run Windows and Linux if needed.

@Will-sc3hw 11 месяцев назад

Correct. modern budget x86 chips are far better than what the Pi5 does@@MayaPosch

@JohnPMiller 11 месяцев назад

Pi + power supply + cooler + RTC battery + HDMI adapter = $112, but you would be stupid to rely on a USB stick for your data, so add the M.2 adapter and an SSD. Oops! I almost forgot the custom case to fit the SSD. Now you have a PC that can run some software, as long as it's Linux, and as long as you you don't mind that it's slow, and that you can never expand the RAM. It's not a replacement.

@akonako364 11 месяцев назад

Common question of SBC's that this can replace desktop. Real answer, manage your expectations as not ideal for daily driver (base on experience on Rpi 4 8GB)

@DetroitMetroRetro 11 месяцев назад

Mini pcs or cut down laptops are the closest we will get im sure for awhile With that said my n95 is not a daily driver but the 7735hs was

@generatedillusions3124 7 месяцев назад

Honestly, my hope for building an adequate UMPC just came through with the pi5. Gonna be fun.

@joeblow229 10 месяцев назад

I think the real question is... how often do PC users use their computers as "computers", as opposed to just entertainment devices? Even as someone who programs as a hobby for small electronic devices, I probably only use my monster PC as a computer 1% of the time. When I work from home, I guess I use it as a computer 30% of the time, but other than that, I'm on RU-vid and watching movies.

@gortys3929 11 месяцев назад

Pi5 not running 1080p 60fps in 2023 is an embarrassment to the Pi Foundation.

@nikobellic570 11 месяцев назад

It's all decoded in software, which is a shame. We will just have to see how much more optimisation happens down the line

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

In total agreement with you. As a Pi fan, I'm very disappointed.

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

To add insult to injury, BCM2711 on Pi4 has better codec support than the latest BCM2712. But both failed running RU-vid at 1080/60.

@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521 11 месяцев назад

Yeah wtf is that? 1080p is the standard these days. If it boasts 2 4k displays but can't even play a video at 1080p 60fps then why have it? Is the 4k displays there for doing excel at hyper resolutions?!

@nikobellic570 11 месяцев назад

@@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521probably cost to manufacture. Putting those codecs into hardware probably would have tipped it beyond their budget. They also have a historical silicon partnership with Broadcom for all their products, so don't use other more video-capable GPU/CPUs. They're also tied into this line of ARM chips for software reasons(open source and Vulkan compatible)

@Faxtron 8 месяцев назад

Mini PC with N100 is much better option price/performance.

@harz426 11 месяцев назад

I seriously do not get why every ridiculous RU-vidr is out here shilling the Pi 5 like it is some sort of great device. For the money there are so many better options. The Pi 5 is a jack of all trades and a master of none. I.e. It is just a silly toy for the most part. But desktop PC? No. Definitely NO. It can't play 1080p 30Hz smoothly, it cant even play Half-Life. No PCIe and coming in at almost $100, it is a hard pass from me, and should be for everyone else as well, unless you have a very specific use case for it where it works better than other options--which is hard for me to imagine.

@demonhighwayman9403 10 месяцев назад

Amazing to see HL2 running at all on an arm chip !

@yakadoodledongywongy8718 11 месяцев назад

Depends on what you do with your desktop. For me it definitely could. I don't really play games (I know.... I watch eta prime) all I do is browse the internet, send emails and not much more than that. That's the basic intention of a home desktop surely? Not everyone is on the bleeding edge of tech or wants to run a sever or a website from home. As a living room desktop, so long as your willing to use Linux or are savvy enough to install whatever else you want on it then yes it should Absaloutley be good enough to be a desktop

@alvallac2171 10 месяцев назад

*For me, it *prime). All *browse the Web *desktop, surely? *server *you're willing (contraction of "YOU aRE") your = possessive *it, then *absolutely *a desktop.

@Ilikerv 11 месяцев назад

Hmm interesting topic. I’m not a pro user or knows his stuff whatsoever but I’ve been using a Raspberry Pi 4 as my main computer for about 10 months now and I love it! There hasn’t been a day where I have missed Windows. I only upgraded to a 5 because WTH I love my 4, it’s only 100 up, and now I have an extra 4 to play around with. Hmmm… the possibilities… I have a Pi 4 for my daily browsing, another 4 for watching tv (and a couple other things), a Steam Deck for gaming (and every now and then stuff the Pi can’t do but the Deck/Arch can), and an iPhone to help me get through my on-the-go day as a disabled person.

@merthyr1831 11 месяцев назад

The Pi4 with DietPi can make for a very easy-to-manage home server. I use one to stream Plex, run Nextcloud, and manage media with torrenting and radarr/sonarr

@physicistification 10 месяцев назад

Imagine what will happen to the SBC market by the time Raspberry (and Orange etc.) Pi 6 and 7 are going to be released. Intel will have a real problem at its hands, as they will have to offer the same performance as ARM SBCs. But that means they won't be able to ask a premium for their high-end SoCs anymore. The question is if Intel will be able to pivot to its foundry services or simply fade away.

@Santiago-um7qs 9 месяцев назад

Pi 5 totally lost the cost-efficiency, mini PC with intel N95 or N100 much more powerful unless you need GPIO

@Vegan_Lifting 11 месяцев назад

I am waiting for RetroPie. I've bought the Pi 5 to replace my Pi 4B (8GB) with RetroPie for emulation. But there's no RetroPie for the Pi 5?!

@nikobellic570 11 месяцев назад

Recalbox is released. It's still a good investment as developers continue working throughout the board's life cycle

@Vegan_Lifting 11 месяцев назад

@@nikobellic570 I know Recalbox. But I don't like it so much. I have to wait for Retropie.

@DenisBrkhus 11 месяцев назад

ETA I think it’s pronounced Canonical not Conical 😉 Otherwise cool Pi5 videos, interested in long term stability of the Pi5@3GHz.

@MayankJairaj 11 месяцев назад

2nd hand aka used tiny/mini/micro pc with i5 7500T/8GB RAM/SSD would be way better for general media consumption But is a great start for people who want to use Raspberry pi 5 for some temporary project. After the project is over this could easily serve as web browsing pc or anything low power

@ionamygdalon2263 11 месяцев назад

What I really found interesting is how you used USB storage instead of a Micro SD! Well done 😎

@pgtmr2713 11 месяцев назад

If you buy a Samsung FIT or BAR, make sure to get the 400 mb/s model. It will say on the front of the package. Make sure it's in the written description of the product if you're buying online. I have a Micro Center near me so it's not an issue for me. This applies to both 128GB and 256gb drives. Just so you get the most for your money.

@ionamygdalon2263 11 месяцев назад

@@pgtmr2713 Oh!! Many thanks for your detailed reply 😃

@АлексейДмитриев-ш1ф 11 месяцев назад

why use USB flash instead of USB SSD?

@pgtmr2713 11 месяцев назад

@@АлексейДмитриев-ш1ф The physical size of the SSD, and I have an SSD for one Pi4. It needs it's own power supply, didn't play nice with the adapter I had. It wouldn't boot on the USB 3 ports. All said and done no noticeable difference in overclock and gaming... to me, once I got it working. The PI4 I'm typing this on is at 2300/900 over_volt=15, force_turbo=1, maxxed and stable, with a 128GB Samsung BAR. Good with Android 13 too. Used to play GTA SA, and Vice City, the Android versions, with the OC at 2000 or 2100 running on power tool batteries. One simple USB flash for $20-30 and the PI4 has what it needs for all conditions.

@ernestgalvan9037 11 месяцев назад

@@АлексейДмитриев-ш1ф …USB Flash is simply easier to use. Just plug in the thumb drive, all done. USB SSD needs either a USB to SSD adapter, or a special Pi case, or some way to attach the external SSD to the RPi.

@bb6uk05 10 месяцев назад

Guys, get a dirt cheap mini PC with 8th Gen Intel CPU and do whatever you want to do. Keep the Raspberry pi for the kid's fun.

@aptems1438 10 месяцев назад

From what I saw in terms of games, orange pi 5b destroys raspberry pi5 without a chance

@pik33100 11 месяцев назад

Try to test the video playing on a non-overclocked system. There are reports that frame dropping goes worse when overclocked. The RPi, even #5, has its memory connected via 32-bit bus and this is the performance limiter. This can also explain frame dropping when overclocked: CPU needs more memory bandwidth I used RPi 400 as a desktop replacement in summer, when the big PC was overheating my room. The 400, when properly overclocked, was -near- enough to do simple everyday tasks (=browsing the net). If the RPi5 is really 2-3x faster than this, it would be enough. For heavy tasks I have a standard, big PC.

@amcadam26 11 месяцев назад

I love the raspberry Pi. I own 2 picos, one 4 8gb and one 400. I plan to get the Pi5. But for general home computing, it's very difficult to recommend a Pi over something like a mini PC running an Intel n95 or n100 CPU, you can get them fully setup with a 256gb ssd with windows for not much more than a Pi5, and it will run double the speed and have more software available being x86 based, with all the ematjon options available too.

@TarverdiyevRafael 11 месяцев назад

Bro seems u are rich guy.I dont have any rasp pi.But u can stop me selling my kidney just sending me one rasp pi 5

@eldontyrellcorp 11 месяцев назад

Rasp-pis are fine as backup "PC's", or for some users with basic requirements. I'm using a rasp-pi zero 2w as a node red / mosquitto server and it's perfect in this role. But again other sbc's can do that such as orange Pi's (which are a bit cheaper). As always, depends on your needs and expectations.

@alvallac2171 10 месяцев назад

*emulation

@all.day.day-dreamer 11 месяцев назад

My self and a few of my friends have opted not to purchase the new Pi 5 as where we were HUGE fans of the Pi 3 and Pi 4. In 2024, this product just doesn't make sense given the lower performance and price point. The Intel N100 mini PC for $100+ and that's with memory and storage included. I think the Pi 5 might be the last of its kind. I see current options that beat the Pi 5 only getting more powerful in the near future. The Pi 3 and Pi 4 were the right products at the right time. The Pi 5 is too little too late, but that's okay. Products do die out, and it happens every day. When one door closes, new ones open. I've sold all of my old Pi stuff and have opted for a N100 mini PC. Very powerful, extremely cheap and it absolutely destroys The Pi 5. Did I mention it's tiny?

@believingintheblood8540 11 месяцев назад

Since I learned about Pi, i have said public schools should be using these machines for teachers instead of giving them brand new macbooks every 3 years. Save taxpayers millions. Most teachers only use computers for youtube in class anyways.

@schrodingersmechanic7622 11 месяцев назад

A refurbished thin client would be a far superior desktop. For the same or less $. And it will come with a power supply. And you won't have to buy a separate hard drive for it. And they're never backordered.

@nikobellic570 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, but buying this for a kid as a present may inspire them to tinker with coding and physical computing

@PixelShade 11 месяцев назад

Although it is impressive how much performance we have gotten over the years with the Pi. I still think People should look on the used market instead. People are throwing away perfectly usable computers. You can generally get HP Elitedesks or Lenovo ThinkCentres for around 100$, and then you often get an pretty decent i3, i5 or i7... All of them outperforming a Pi5... Heck, a core i5 4650, will still play Cyberpunk at a solid 30fps if you slap a graphics card and some memory into the machine. This is why I have such a hard time justifying the "home PC" use case for a Raspberry Pi.

@hipflipped 11 месяцев назад

Agreed, cheap, used mini pc's blow the Pi 5 away iln terms of performance.

@mephistovonfaust 11 месяцев назад

Well... Scalpers already bought them up all over again here in Europe and sell it for over 100€... The Pi just isn't competitive with other SBCs around at that price point. Your video is all well and good but honestly I couldn't care less about the Pi while I get scammed if I want to buy one.

@infinity8x3 10 месяцев назад

This is so far from the original vision of raspberry pi.

@tianjohan4633 10 месяцев назад

Great video. But the lack of reliant 4K video playback means I'm gonna sit this one out. There have been lots of other sbc's with more onboard power both for cpu and gpu this year. Is there any sbc in particular you would recommend primarily for watching 4K video?

@aptems1438 10 месяцев назад

Orange pi 5 plus or Orange pi 5

@user-wq8cp3bi9k 11 месяцев назад

You have m.2 so why the f.. use USB storage instead?

@chiragxpurohit 11 месяцев назад

can I get a link for that beautiful wallpaper, reminds me of westworld

@jierenzheng7670 11 месяцев назад

I was hyped that the RPi5 would blow the RK3588 out of the water but I guess it wasn't :(

@ezekielrobinson7897 11 месяцев назад

Not at all. But… the raspberry pi community runs laps easily around Radxa, Orange pi, nano pi and Khadas.

@jierenzheng7670 11 месяцев назад

@@ezekielrobinson7897 Well, from what I heard RK3588 development was kinda stopped because the expectation for the RPi5 specs would blow it out of the water

@ezekielrobinson7897 11 месяцев назад

@@jierenzheng7670 if so, that is horrible business practice considering folks bought devices that use the remarkable rk3588 chipset. I personally have the Radxa Rock5b and the Nanopi R6s. My Rock5b is spectacular when it comes to emulation (ps2 gamecube and Wii) but woefully lacking when it comes to software.

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

It's actually the other way around.

@jierenzheng7670 11 месяцев назад

@@edrd6257 ah okay, my bad

@coshyyy 8 месяцев назад

How did you get Ubuntu running off of the USB so smoothly? I tried and wasn't able to get it working, so I just resorted to using the SD card. 😂

@kjjustinXD 11 месяцев назад

For the Price of a 8GB Pi5, the Active cooler, a PSU to support this Overclock, Storage and a Case, i can get a HP Elitedesk with either 6th or 7th gen Core i5s, 8GB DDR4 and 256GB SSD with integrated Wifi and Bluetooth and even a Windows 10/11 Pro License. it can do 4k60, it doesnt need emulation to run Steam games, and it uses less Energy when playing RU-vid Videos than a Pi 5, because they removed the H.264 Hardware Decoder. if i Spend a tiny bit more, i can Already get the Gaming Capable Ryzen Version of the Same Elitedesk. The Pi is everything else, just not a Desktop Replacement.

@flyofthefirefly 11 месяцев назад

Brother, I think you might have forgotten to make the same video about Orange pi 5 running of an ssd. USB drive sound cute for a daily drive, m.2 sounds reliable.

@garystreck5991 11 месяцев назад

I have an Orange Pi 5 Plus with an SSD and its read rate is around 3 gig. I also have the right codecs to play 4k video with no dropped frames.

@unleashthedog 11 месяцев назад

How is Quake running? Wondering if one can gut an old laptop, put one of these inside and use it like a chromebook for everyday

@ziggy8757 11 месяцев назад

so dissapointed of the raspberry pi 5....i guess ill wait for the raspberry pi 6 3 o 4 more years....

@aadityalikesmiatas 11 месяцев назад

I too was wishing for more especially with that higher price tag

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

Me too. The least they could do is using the SoC on par with RK3588. Not this BCM2712.

@uh-nuh 10 месяцев назад

01:54 you can also use old vga gpu's heatsinks, they are little and very cheap to get. im using one to cool my phone with a peltier module on it(works with a 5v2a charger). it works too good, my phone freezes if i dont use the cpu at %100 load 😅

@grtitann7425 11 месяцев назад

I could be wrong, but I think that all Linux distros won't be able to run the Pi at top performance, except for Pi own distro, because all of the others lack the binary blobs needed for proper video acceleration.

@adithyan1390 11 месяцев назад

I saw a ASUS Chromebox 3 High Performance Mini PC (Intel Core i7 8th gen, 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 256 GB SSDIntel UHD Graphics 620 can it run GTA 5

@friedpicklezzz 9 месяцев назад

Half-life probably runs so slow because it’s going through OpenGL, a standard that should have been killed years ago but is hard to ignore with all the legacy content out there. A drawback of the Pi5 is that it no longer has hardware video encoding, only decoding. I was curious to learn how you connect SSD to it and how it performs.

@milescarter7803 11 месяцев назад

I cannot believe the recommendation for USB system drive. This is literally the first 'B' model with NVMe booting and I know of 2 NVMe hats. Bare minimum use a USB to M.2 NVMe adaptor, then you can move the drive to native M.2 hat when it is available.

@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521 11 месяцев назад

Great point. Very interesting to choose such an option when I know I've seen superior alternatives on this channel in the past.

@theitatit 11 месяцев назад

*takes 10 seconds to open a webrowser* "yes you can be very productive and even do photo editing"

@Waldherz 11 месяцев назад

The Pi5 makes no sense at all as an every day PC. It just costs too much for what it is, compared to other SBCs. The Pi5 is also not very power efficient.

@edwinl.5262 11 месяцев назад

My Galaxy S4 phone, yes S4 from 2013, could play 1080p video smoothly. This can’t even manage that.

@jimmylynch08 11 месяцев назад

This thing is a joke your cell phone can do all those things and everybody is going to need a phone instead of this toy garage 4 gigs of ram in 2023 is awful

@seppeseppe-jq7nr 11 месяцев назад

ye overpriced toy

@JamesSmith-ix5jd 11 месяцев назад

16gigs is awful in 2023, 32 is just about right, 64 really good even for editing and work.

@jonathanbutler6635 11 месяцев назад

How is zoom on it? One problem I had with using the 4 as a desktop was how poorly zoom worked.

@jonathanbutler6635 11 месяцев назад

@@destructodisk9074 I have a laptop to zoom personally. But I also want to create a low cost zoom setup for a tv. I tried before and had a pi mounted to the back of the tv with the camera module at the top but the lag made it unusable. I understand that for some people the answer is just a laptop, pc, or smart camera built specifically to zoom from a tv. but for the space savings and cost of a pi it would be better.

@orhanyor 11 месяцев назад

Rpi's are versatile for different projects and applications but for desktop performance its not even competition against mini pcs.They will blow rpi5's out of the water in the same price point. their size is may be only twice as big and a brand new one comes with ssd, ram, case, power adapter etc all you need to get it up and running for only $150 windows11 pre installed. pretty much the same price as rpi5 after you buy everything you need to get it up and running.

@MadManWIll 11 месяцев назад

would make a pretty great home made laptop for school for taking notes and stuff ,would also turn some heads!

@вадимшипаев 10 месяцев назад

Ждём raspberry pi 6 чтобы наконец нормально смотреть RU-vid

@Alegzander1990 11 месяцев назад

If you want a desktop, there are MUCH better performing options available out there nowadays, and even for cheaper. The Sun has set on the RPi in general, but especially so if you're looking for a cheap desktop ! They messed it all up. Prices have crept up, supply is laughable, etc. Imo the writing's on the wall when it comes to this thing. At best it will remain a niche product.

@orion10x10 11 месяцев назад

There's so much fantastic old hardware for the same price as the Raspberry Pi that is much more powerful. the Raspberry Pi works if you want low power consumption and need a consistent spec for making a robot at home or your own smart home solutions, etc. I wouldn't use it for general computing but it would be a great first computer for a kid to learn Linux though.

@henson2k 11 месяцев назад

Last Raspberry with low power consumption was Pi 3. Plus it did not require a cooling fan. Now it's just not clear to me what's the target audience of Pi 5.

@rolyantrauts2304 11 месяцев назад

I just think the RK3588(s) boards are better at every task from efficiency to GPU perf and whatever you you quote they are better. I have one on preorder but Raspberry are no longer the king when it its to SBC. Only area where Pi5 beats RK3588 is the UHS SD speed.

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

I wish RK3588-based board have the same software & community support as Raspberry Pi. Because the chip is simply better than BCM2712 on RPi5 in all important aspect.

@microlinux 11 месяцев назад

Rock5B does UHS up to 90 MB/S or more. But.. you have emmc, m.2, etc..

@microlinux 11 месяцев назад

@@edrd6257there are images in which everything just works. Joshua's ubuntu images have everything out of the box, even chromium media decoding. Or obs encoding/decoding, or mpv and kodi decoding. Or.. everything you may need. Not vulkan tho. That will only be possible on mainline down the road

@rolyantrauts2304 11 месяцев назад

@@microlinux Only area where Pi5 beats RK3588 is the UHS SD speed

@AmyGrrl78 11 месяцев назад

I can't wait for my Raspberry Pi 5 preorder to ship. Excited to try out a bunch of software on it. Still haven't decided what the Raspberry Pi 5 will be used for.

@Desert-edDave 11 месяцев назад

Simple answer: No. RPi's lost its original direction and it will be its downfall.

@zieraq 11 месяцев назад

Don't understand why why the emphasis on overclocking. Manufacturer set it to default clock because that is where it was safe & give best results. Why buy some cheap hardware & make it suffer? Get a better one.

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

My guess is without overcooking, it will perform even worse. That's why the emphasis was on overclocking.

@Josh-ux6zz 11 месяцев назад

Mini pcs with Ryzen and Intel processors are so cheap now, no reason to use a pi as a desktop replacement. I liked pi’s when they were 40 bucks, but they just can’t compete right now. By the time you get a pi, case, storage etc you could buy a beelink etc that would wipe the floor with one of these at less cost.

@WhiteG60 11 месяцев назад

I don't have a RasPi5 yet, thanks to MicroCenter changing their release date by 2 weeks, but I did just get an OrangePi 5+ 16GB. Even with eMMC, their Arch distro works fabulously. I can do anything I do on my R7 7800X3D/RX7800XT machine except game. Office apps, programming, Discord, RU-vid works flawlessly (which even an RPi 4 couldn't manage), slice 3D models for 3D printing with PrusaSlicer. Other than gaming, I'd be fine with the OPi5+ as a desktop machine. With OpenFyde, it's effectively a well specced ChromeBox and runs Android apps on it now, too.

@geobot9k 11 месяцев назад

I'm interested in quake 3, psp 2803975(edit: wipeout, autocorrect being weird) + nfs rivals, and running a quantized llm like mistral or zephyr

@geobot9k 11 месяцев назад

Garry Explains got a language model working on the pi4 a month ago and I'd love to see how it works on pi5

@microlinux 11 месяцев назад

It would be cool if for once for all people research a bit. Rpi5 has only h265 hw video decoders, everything else runs on cpu decoding. 4k will never be a thing, maybe h264 4k30, but at huge cpu consumption. H265 4k, sure, but that's all.. and youtube doesn't use h265.

@Draculah79 11 месяцев назад

Somehow I don't quite understand the rationale in using SBCs like Pi, cos if you want to use a cheap computing device, just pick up a 10 years old computer, put some RAM and SSD in it, install linux. It probably cost similar or less, and you have more computing power and doing your bit to reduce electronic waste. Cos comparing an SBC purposely made for very low power computing with a normal PC, what's the point?

@pgtmr2713 11 месяцев назад

I use 2 as desktops at home, and 2 portable, one boombox and one fit into a portable DVD player. I can sit outside and watch a movie and retrogame at the same time. Mostly, having tv or movies or music, while I work. I put a stealth DVD burner from a laptop underneath the boombox. One handle for the boombox can carry everything, no bag. I know I can get 7 hours out of one set of batteries swap them and continue. I think I could watch all 4 John Wicks + some just about anywhere. Or the only Star Wars trilogy that counts, Batman Begins. Thinking about trying to get a projector in there somehow.

@Draculah79 11 месяцев назад

@@pgtmr2713 I'm not sure if the value in getting a good projector, is better than just getting a 1080p monitor and mounting it on a mobile stand with castors. 1080p monitors are cheap.

@ryukaze20 11 месяцев назад

Would wish to actually have a Raspberry Pi as a burner or a alternate machine for low-end stuff like video playback and internet usage while my main computer does ALL the stuff

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

I have been using my RPi4 for that and I'm quite happy with it.

@Karls_Clips 11 месяцев назад

forgive me for complaining eta but you overclocking the pi makes the entire video redundant, if you put a section of the video showing the difference between standard setting and overclocked it would help alot of people. because not everyone wants to or needs to overclock their pi's. i get you want to show it at full power but not everyone WANTS to overclock and knowing what its capable of without overclocking is much more useful. aside that complaint of mine ive always liked your videos but yeah..

@funnyberries4017 11 месяцев назад

I’m just happy Linux on Arm is getting lots of love. Soon there will be some arm based laptops, and I’m hoping Linux takes over when Microsoft fumbles the transition

@JohnBraman413 3 дня назад

you can add nvme storage now.

@MyChannel-vm6dw 11 месяцев назад

I'd suspect mid to high range phones hooked up to a monitor would be a more compute powerful for the basics and you basically always carry your phone with you.

@maxmeier532 11 месяцев назад

But can it handle my 3 open browsers, each with 60 tabs open since 12 months ago? That is where the road meets the rubber!

@edrd6257 11 месяцев назад

My 8GB RPi4 can do more than 60 tab and I'm still doing it today. But if you like a little bit more performance, Intel N100 CPU can certainly offer more at basically the same price.

@pearsonpsh2 11 месяцев назад

I'd be interested to see a benchmark comparison of RPi OS Full, RPi OS Lite + Gnome, and Ubuntu on the Pi 5

@worldsendace 11 месяцев назад

Its better to get a n100. Its Like 125 Bucks but can Run Windows. Comes in a Case with SSD and 8gb.

@anon_y_mousse 11 месяцев назад

I'd like to see you run Psychonauts in a PS2 emulator. Also, does it boot from USB out of the box or do you have to configure it with an SD card first before you can boot from USB?

@JazzTechie 11 месяцев назад

Unless you’re inventing something, you’re better off buying a PC. If you are bitten by the inventor bug, go for a pi.

@KeithLee2012 11 месяцев назад

Does the Samsung Fit USB drive overheats ? I seen some comments that it gets very hot. Nice video btw

@david78212 5 месяцев назад

It will absolutely replace your PC, it just won’t do heavy gaming or big time video editing. For what most people use it for, email, web browsing and playing solitaire, it will 100% replace a giant desktop computer… But, so will those “mini-computers” that are capable of mounting on the back of the monitor. It’s 100% going to depend on what you’re going to try to use it for. As what it’s intended for, your desktop computer will not even come close to.

@novantha1 11 месяцев назад

Just a note: If all you need is CPU performance for your workstation (or a ton of RAM) it is possible you could use a bunch of Pi 5s over an ethernet switch to do a compute cluster, and while it's not the best value in an SBC (I would personally do that with something more like an Orange Pi 5 for the power efficiency) you might want to do it for some of the Raspberry Pi specific software and solutions. I'm not sure if it's possible to do blender renders over a compute cluster, but that's one thing that comes to mind, personally.

@deletesobaka 11 месяцев назад

Note: you have to use software that is written to work distributed across nodes. Don't expect any improvement in generic application performance by simply stacking up a few PIs

@alphaLONE 11 месяцев назад

clustering isn't fit for workstation jobs. what you're talking about is only fit for server-class deployments. Also you can't pool RAM together in a cluster of Pis in a way that it would make more sense to access it over a normal page file. This is just terrible advice.

@novantha1 11 месяцев назад

@@alphaLONE Not necessarily, it really does depend on the workload. Certain machine learning workloads can scale over an ethernet switch, certain types of rendering or scientific computation and so on will also scale over a cluster. Some types of workstation workloads may actually require certain things be compiled / rendered over a long period of time (even with a powerful machine) and so you could get multiple concurrent workloads processing at the same time on each of the boards of the cluster. I absolutely understand what you're trying to say, but I think this is a case of your individual experience with your particular workloads coloring your opinion on the matter. But, if you'll look at my original comment, you will note I didn't say "A cluster will solve all of your workload problems", I very precisely said "it is *possible*", not a guarantee.

@oldtwinsna8347 11 месяцев назад

@@novantha1 Nonsense. If you need that computational power then you're absolutely insane to be looking at a Pi 5. Just get an off the shelf modern i3 processor, it'll blow the heck out of any Pi 5 configuration.

@shaolindreams 8 месяцев назад

Once the Pi can do flawless video i would be more interested as a low powered desktop and a native nvme drive slot wouldnt do amiss. Still think these have their place for fairly low cost and effiecency and projects but it's not quite their yet for my needs i'll take an APU miniPC for much more capable desktop experience.

@EffectualPoet 9 месяцев назад

Biggest weakness is ports. No 3.5mm audio, no displayport, and it uses Micro hdmi (gross).

@TechManiacs666 11 месяцев назад

If previous 4 can't, why you think 5 yes? 😂

@4ngeldus739 11 месяцев назад

What's crazy is that I feel like this would satisfy all my needs if it were a laptop. Would love a nice 17inch laptop with a full keyboard and some decent speakers powered by one of these

@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521 11 месяцев назад

1000%

@Greglovesyoumore 9 месяцев назад

Build it😊

@4ngeldus739 9 месяцев назад

@@Greglovesyoumore I'm too poor to get the build materials but maybe I can design it on an android tablet and upload the CAD files somewhere for people to download and make it

@hoyschelsilversteinberg4521 9 месяцев назад

Laptops have no business being as expensive as they are. This is the bridge that would be the mass adoption moment for the raspberry pi for the masses if this was a thing.

@DrBrunoDzogovic 8 месяцев назад

Can't replace a desktop PC but it can replace many things such as routers, home servers like NAS, TV boxes and so on.

@Zenefor 11 месяцев назад

im suprised at the fact that they dont use recycled phone soc that might be a bit older that still offer crisper computing with an octa core.

@code96roblox 11 месяцев назад

If they did they’d find some problems meeting demand, and have cost increases. Part of the reason humanity has found themselves where they are is because it is quite literally cheaper to manufacture new things than to recycle old parts. Not to mention the massive cost involved in reverse engineering Qualcomm’s chips, that’s why the only Linux supporting smart phones out there are upwards of 5 years old.

@thedoopa3169 11 месяцев назад

It's better to just melt them down to create newer generation chips or just scrap them. Because money exists this isn't plausible.

@Zenefor 11 месяцев назад

i mean, they can have a side model that specifically uses recycled soc as a side gig to see if it sticks.

@Zenefor 11 месяцев назад

the e-waste amount of very capable mobo phones with a working soc is more than anyone thinks.

@Matte9 10 месяцев назад

I think that pi 6 or 7 will be able to be a decent desktop id say

@Aeon_Electronics 11 месяцев назад

Way to pricy! Raspberry Pi left it's path. I am out. For a desktop PC there are even cheaper x86 PCs...

@meneerjansen00 10 месяцев назад

Wil it run 'Star Wars - Rogue Leader' & 'Rebel Strike' on a Gamecube emulator? And 'Ico' on the PS2?

@ytHUNTR 11 месяцев назад

The Samsung stick is the worst example to show here :D i got it myself and it gets hot so fast, that it throttles way too early to work with. Some bigger Kingston Metal Sticks should be used for OS, so you get much better performance overall

@jeffreyplum5259 6 месяцев назад

I have no AC. I find stock low power systems built for office use do not like extended running in my home. BTW NVME SSDs tend to run pretty hot, so choose a case and cooling system accordingly if you plan on using the Pi5s PCIE NVME hats. The Pi5's improved SD card speed and dual 5 Gig Usb 3 ports offer more bandwidth than the Pi4's shared IO system. I believe RU-vid and Amazon video rentals are still limited to Standard Definition. My screen top out at 1080p so I have had good luck with the Pi4 video. Pi5 video should be just that bit better. I lost internet service, when a car took out a telephone pole. My pis clock were lost without Net access. That battery backed up clock would have been nice. I found Chromium or Thorium, open source versions of Google Chrome beat Firefox on the Pi4. Mx linux has a nice version for the Pi4 or Pi 5. It uses the XFCE desktop, on Debian Bookworm. It is a full Bookworm, built off a PiOS core.

@GaneshMKarhale Месяц назад

Not playing RU-vid at 1080p 60 is a huge drawback for me. My PC which has intel core i3-2100 cannot play 720p 60 without dropping frames. This is mainly because its HD 2000 graphics don't support av1 codec. Hardware acceleration support is very important for video and audio playback.

@mattivirta 21 день назад

sure can, i has uses last 5 year raspi4 my table computer, only problem has all this time, not can move newer my samsung galaxy j2 pictures to raspi computer, and USB external harddrive not working good sometime freeze OS if doing somethink etc, looking netflix and bush pause then computer freeze and not working need restart all OS. and not can play minecarf normal good. not working.

@yvs6663 11 дней назад

its an interasting proposition, specially for people(like myself) who have a gaming PC thats always on for the sake of downloads or convenience but also wouldn't mind having a smaller power bill. but since it doesn't seem able to play 4k youtube, maybe another ARM system would be a better solution.

@karstentopp 11 месяцев назад

Absolutely useless and overpriced piece of bullcrap. Can't even peel a potato. The minimum viable desktop system for basic web browsing is possibly a M2 Pro Mac mini with 32 GB RAM and 2 TB SSD. But that ain' t running Windows 11, so I personally won't be using it. Linux is not, was never and will never be a OS for any even amateur use.

@actyon20 4 месяца назад

Pi 5 is much more than a Desktop PC. I bought my Pi 4 and I use it as a Master with multiple Pi Zero as Slaves and wrote an GUI in python from which I control on a touchscreen multiple systems in my house ( opening garage, lights, temperature sensors, webcams from Pi Zero, etc ). Even though I could have used the built-in Wifi, I choose to disable it ( for security reasons ) and everything is on LAN cables, closed loop. That's the True potential of the Pi's. it's cheap, it has good horsepower and tons of supports. I tried to give it a chance for an Orange Pi 5 to build a Auto 1 DIN System. Built a custom 12V to 5V dc-dc converter separately, had a 1 DIN case from an old Radio Stereo Cassette , but I had lots of problems trying to connect a GPS module to it and gave up.

@VicariousxD 6 месяцев назад

What a missed opportunity. Pi foundation removed the hardware encoders and decoders, meaning sluggish performance for both watching videos and video calls. IDK what kind of work involves just browsing web and maybe just using google docs. I would much rather prefer one of the rk3588 boards which now has h264,h265 hardware encoders and decoders. They are now working on av1 decode for the board too. Also, the built-in m.2 and emmc support is so nice to have on an “everyday” board.

@BilisNegra 11 месяцев назад

Ubuntu would run just so much better on an X86 used office PC of the same price... I mean, an i5 system from a decade ago will do perfect 1080p60 YT playback on just integrated CPU graphics. Guess how I know it.

@juansolo1617 10 месяцев назад

Still no M.2 slot and this thing will cost a fortune compared to Rock and Orange boards. If it starts getting close to 350 USD then you may as well just buy a Ryzen SBC, which has PCI-express AFAIK.