This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ru-vid.comUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
Inspired by this Cadoha project, I have taken an old biscuit tin, whacked on the exhaust of a 1960s Triumph, drilled a hole in the ceiling of our Paris flat (I will say sorry to the people who live above us) and now we are enjoying crumpets and cognac with the firemen who have popped in. Happy Season😉
Super vid. We installed a Grizzly in the salon of our Westsail 42 ketch about 3 years ago. It was a straightforward install, and had to deal with the same issues as you did, and our solutions were just like yours. The Grizzly provides great heat for our boat when things get chilly. Burn time on a full load is about 3.5 - 4 hours depending on wood. As you have probably experienced, the Grizzly has done well. Fair Winds from Doug on WS42 Harmony!
What a transformation in the saloon! I would recommend looking into a fan to circulate the heat around the saloon and really all over the boat. You can get an oscillating DC fan wall or overhead mount or one of the ones that runs from the heat of the stove but has to sit on top of it taking up tea pot room. I would also recommend opening up cabinets and floor lockers to the bilge to get rid of excess heat rather than a hatch to the outside. It will help reduce condensation and mold. A very nice installation!
Great video guys, one comment that may help in future modifications,. When you cut a hole in a cored panel you should remove about 20mm of the core around the edges and backfill it with thickened epoxy, this serves two purposes first it seals the core much better than a coat of fast dry epoxy, second it gives you a solid edge to bolt through reducing the risk of the bolts working in the holes causing cracking. Happy new Year to you all give Hank a pat for me
We ended up not needing to bolt through the hull, we simply adhered the doughnut down. Yesterday we took apart the flu for a clean and to inspect the core for any signs of over heating etc, and everything looked great, no signs of heat stress and no water ingress at all, and it's been howling with rain this past week. I think if we do it again though, or if we end up spotting signs of water ingress in future inspections then we very well may take you up on your suggestions. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and feedback with us, we really do appreciate it. Here's to hoping 2023 is a happy and healthy one 🙏🏼
Great job installing the new fireplace. When I was the first mate on a 70 foot schooner back in the early 1970s, there was an old fireplace on it. On the boat deck where the chiming came out there was a ring that held water to keep the deck from catching fire. It was very important to keep that ring full of water. No one wanted the boat to light up with fire.
Thanks for making great videos! I have been living full time off grid on board a 31 feet sailboat in Norway for over a year, first thing I did was installing a Grizzly wood stove, have been working over all expectations so far. Due to supply shortage at the time I had to use the Cubic Mini roof exit kit instead of Dickinson. But there haven't been any issues so far. I only use the stove at anchor or at berth anyway. And when sailing I take of the top of the chimney and put on a rubber cap. My greatest issue is fighting the humidity, I do use a electric dehumidifier, but it uses a lot of power. During the winter months with less sun I have to run a generator to charge batteries, mainly to power the dehumidifier. If you are having similar problems and have found better solutions it would be awesome if you could make a video about cheap ways to fight humidity on a boat in Northern climate.
I just love your unassuming approach to everything you both (inc. Max) do on board Cadoha. I'm not all surprised that the help and support you receive from tradespeople freely given to you and your support in naming them is much appreciated. You appear to cover all the bases when embarking on a project which is encouraging to all who watch your channel. May you all have a Happy New Year and fair winds in 2023. God Bless 👍👍👍
Thanks Brian, we certainly try to think about everything before tackling a job, but we are novice at pretty much everything we do on the boat and as has been the case already, we've had some good, constructive feedback from some people in here as to what we may want to think about adjusting and we will most likely make some of these changes now we've had a chance to think about them. Hope you have a great new year! 🙏🏼
The look on Hank's face was pure approval. If Hank approves then we approve. Stay warm, we had an ice storm here across the pond, hope it is warmer there.
Extraordinary weather in North America this past week! May you and your nearest and dearest be safe. I can only echo how deeply unpleasant we in the UK found the -7 c/19 F! Probably still t-shirt weather in North America
@@Neilhuny it was 16 f/ -9 c here in that storm, that was freezing. (Portland Oregon) Our normal here this time of year is 40 to 50 ish f for this time of year. This video of the install I am going to bookmark because it is a project I see coming on soon.
How lucky for us that you are both working in the winter yet still making these wonderful videos for us to watch! I noted that although Hank was yawning while you were working on the installation he did look like he was enjoying the warmth very much 😂😂
That sure gets the Hank seal of approval, you did a lovely job. It's great seeing you get so much help and support, it's a reflection of the wonderful people you both are.
Thats looks so cozy and amazing! Beautiful install! Happy new year! Fair winds and calm seas from Florida USA! I don't comment too much since I watch on my TV and need my tele to comment. Soon I will post vids
Delightful people! Admittedly Hank is the star of the channel but it is great to see what you are doing for him to keep him comfortable. Many thanks to everyone involved, though "Carley's new boss" at Wilett Marine deserves special mention for his help. I will call him Brian. I wish I could subsidise you enough to travel the world (or your favourite part - France, Med, Atlantic, Caribbean etc). I keep investing in the lottery on your behalf
Thanks. It was planned about as well as our beginner DIY skills with moderate YouTubing could likely get us, but so far (nearly a month in with constant fires) it seems that it’s so good 🙏🏼☺️🔥⛵️ Hope your festive season was good to you and that 2023 brings you good fortune 🙏🏼☺️
Top job guys. Looks super cosy. Can’t beat seeing the flames too. Just so happens I’m sat next to my wood burner at home with a nice mulled wine warming on the top. Cheers…. Enjoy. Andy UK
With the sounds of howling wind outside right now, that sounds just about the perfect way to spend the evening. Hope you've had a great Christmas and here's to a cracking start to the new year! 🔥⛵️🥃
Carbon monoxide detector is worth mentioning as well - I noticed you had it in the background but I don't think it got mentioned explicitly. Great work!
Nice job! Looks very cozy! Every job on a boat is different, you just have to dive in, and get it done. I worked on boats for a long time, and many jobs you do once, and never have to do again. Pros make it look easy, because they specialize in one thing, and do it over and over. Happy Holidays, and now you will be toasty warm this winter!
It was minus 7 degrees one day and inside the boat the the fire was roaring we measured plus 31 degrees for about 5 minutes 😲 Generally it's mid 20's which is just lovely. Plus there's something just so satisfying about watching the flames, a perfect re-set after. along day ☺️🔥
@@CadohaAdventures There is undoubtedly something primaeval about staring in to flames! Mid 20's is far more pleasant than 30+, and greatly better than -7!
Looking good, all you need now is a tender full of small logs and kindling. Just tip, after a while you will get a bit of soot build up on the deck 6 inches to a foot from the stack, not a problem if you keep on top of the cleaning. When sailing have you got a cap or blanking plate for the flue? Helps to stop sheets a ropes catching while sailing! All in all a great job.
Yes we have a blanking cap for when we're sailing, although it does look like it'll need some sealant as it's only tack welded and water will 100% be able to get in otherwise. We plan to remove the chimney stack when we sail and get it back out when it's time to warm the boat back up 🙏🏼
Did you insulate like Mads ? as no mention of the dreaded condensation problem. Getting toasty is just the start of the problem in winter on a boat. SV Dalos who fitted a diesel heater before their winter season up in North America ended up with major mould problems. We have three types of heating on our boat which we use in the winter, but spent most of our effort in insulating the (GRP) hull first. Was a hell of a job but now we have a warm dry boat.
We have indeed insulated much of the boat, but we do still get some condensation issues. When we go to bed we set a dehumidifier up for a couple of hours as the boat cools down and that seems to take care of things for the most part.
The 'energy crisis' is also one of the major factors that went into wanting to install more systems on Cadoha. I would certainly have one if I had a house too 😬🔥
I think for me the heart-in-mouth moment would be drilling such a large hole in the boat. For peace of mind, I think I would be tempted to get an Infrared Thermometer just to check for hot spots or even better borrow a Thermal Imaging Camera like the type Fluke does (Fluke TiS20) you would need very deep pockets to buy one or a very generous Santa. 🎅 Merry Christmas guys and best wishes for the New Year.
That's totally fair and we have actually bought one of the infrared laser thermometers to keep track of the heat. If we get any hint of things unfolding in a way that we don't like then we're more than happy to make modifications to the build. Happy Christmas and here's to a good new year for everyone 🙏🏼
I’m moving back to the UK soon (don’t know why 😂) and I was disappointed to be leaving European cruising grounds - however, you guys have really inspired me with some of the places you’ve explored in the UK. So many great spots. Look forward to seeing you on the seas soon. H
Seasons greetings. I can only imagine the difference the stove will make. We are visiting the UK form NZ at the moment and the rain is nuts. One observation..from the video it appeared that you were going to install the flue upside down with the narrow crimped edge up instead of down..please say you didn't. Cheers Nick
@Sailing Cadoha That's interesting. The unburned solids ect run down the inside of the flue and track down the flue on the outside hence the top section fits inside the bottom section. This is also stated on the flue instructions on the FAQs. Time will tell I guess. Great looking fire looking forward to the 365 hopefully catch up sometime in 23. 🙂
@@theubiquitusgastronaut8273 Agreed, hopefully this will help clarify what we have and have installed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sS2yVAFHFzI.html
A friend of mine who loves his wood stove on the boat is if kept at a slow heat it kept the dampness at bay, but also caused a problem with an infestation of bugs like speders and cockroaches that cam in with the wood, collected from shoreline and woods near the anchorage. his way of combatting that was to soak the wood collected in seawater for a while before loading into his outdoor woodbox (second dinghy) to dry.
Hello there, it wasn't available in the UK either so we bought it directly from the company in Canada and it was here a week later. This is the company directly tinyurl.com/mu57mzeu I'm sure they could give you a quite for shipping one over. If not then we'll be sure to film lots of cosy fires onboard to keep you warm by proxy 🙏🏼🔥
Having looked at many of your videos, I recall you mentioned in one episode, using headsets do you have the make/model. We currently use walkie talkeis which can be a pain at times. Have a great New year.
Yes it does indeed. I have a Najad 343 & I even get it ok in the aft cabin. But better to sleep in the saloon. The only down side with the Cub contra Grizzly is the fact I have to keep on filling the box. I can get, on a slow burn a max of 2 hours so it doesn’t last the night. Wood is in abundance so there’s never a problem. I absolutely love the cosy warm factor 🔥👍⛵️⚓️🏴🇸🇪
Have you still got the diesel heater ? loads to vids on how to make and use very cheap fuel. Burner looks better than diesel heater and bet it sounds better too.
Yes we still have the diesel heater which will be better for many applications that the fire perhaps isn't, like quick heat ups or heat underway. The fire is cosy and lovely but also heats hot water as well as being able to cook on the stove top ☺️
Visually very pleasing. Congratuilations to a great little investment. What is your guess on the right and left surface temperature as there is a water dispenser available from the manufacturer?
It's good to take back the balsa core a half inch with a drill and the 90° end of an Allen key then back fill with thickened epoxy so as to avoid water ingress into the deck core...
I did think about that but the core was so solid that I didn't think the Allen key technique would work and thought that a thin lay of epoxy along with a one inch rim of CT1 on the wooden 'doughnut' would hopefully stop any and all water. 🙏🏼
Great piece of kit, well presented. Looking to buy one fir our Leisure 27 but probably go for Cube rather then Grissly stove. Is tge a UK retailer Thanks again Len👍
@@lenhartley8904 good luck with your installation too, if I can help at all with any questions then just fire away and I’ll do my best to answer (as best as I as a novice DIYer can). And welcome aboard 👌🏼⛵️
So far it seems so good, nothing seems to be getting too hot and all is warm and toasty onboard. I think we're going to be having some real adventures in the colder periods next year 🙏🏼😬⛵️
Super video, thank you for making and sharing. I live on a narrowboat (my next boat will be a sailboat!). I have a hobbit stove which is multifuel and I use smokeless coal. I wondered if you have had any issues with tar drips or leaks from the top of the flue? I think I’m right in thinking wood can create more tar than coal. Hi to everyone onboard :) Love your channel!
Hello, great video. Are the headsets you use "open mike"? My wife and I go sailing and have communication issues when she is on the anchor and I am manoeuvring the yacht into moorings. Can you please advise what make they are, many thanks.
Yikes! 25ºC = cut-offs and a t-shirt! Installation job well done, so you've got fire works for New Year's Celebration! Next stop Svalbard, eh? Best, :¬) Webhead USA ps: I really enjoy your style of storytelling,, and I look forward to the next episode.
Hey Luke, we still have it. We added the stove as we're setting a challenge to go off-grid for 365 days in which case we need alternative means of cooking and making hot water, all of which we can do with a wood stove. Plus it's lovely to sit in front of a real fire at the end of a long day 😬
It really is so incredibly cozy and snug now. Yes we still have the diesel heater but we're planning a longer term off-grid adventure which will need winter systems to heat, cook and produce hot water when we have very little solar. hence the wood burner ☺️🔥
Nice job there and good on you for taking the additional safety measures, it should be a godsend in the colder months. I wouldn't be without my stove at home and it gets lit in preference to turning on the central heating, not least because I have an all year round supply of free, dry and seasoned wood. Did you install a Carbon Monoxide detector? They are required in domestic situations, so I assume also on a boat? If not, 100% highly recommended! Even if your insurance premium isn't yet due, don't you have to notify them of this addition? I noticed a few comments about burning driftwood. To those suggesting this, please don't. I am sure Dom knows this, but for the benefit of others... Unless it is thoroughly dry (less than 20% moisture content) it burns with very low efficiency meaning less heat, emits 'dark' smoke due to excess soot particles which will stain the deck and any downwind components of the boat as well as the glass on the stove door and the flue liner (log burners should emit light grey or near colourless fumes). Dark smoke p1$$es off neighbouring boat owners and Marine Conservation Officers. Windfallen and dead branches collected on land are generally okay, as long as dry. If you buy wood, Smokeless may cost more, but generally burn cleaner and are more efficient at generating heat. Also generate less ash to be cleaned out and disposed of. If you are near other vessels, burning cedar, apple or other 'sweet' woods may be a suggestion as they actually smell nice downwind. The salon looked so cosy with the fire glowing. Videos are behind real time, so no doubt you have had many snug nights cuddled up. Have a great New Year Hope plans include sailing up the Irish Sea next year to see some rugged coastlines, sweeping bays, clear water and 'proper' sunsets 😀There will be a warm welcome and tour of my island readily available if you choose to anchor in one of our bays 🙂
Appreciate the feedback there and yes we do have a carbon monoxide sector fitted, in fact we now have three!! 😳 We only burn ‘smokeless wood’ so far and yes I know that moist driftwood isn’t going to be all that useful. Will be sure to give a holla as and when we head off on our Celtic adventures during the colder months 🙏🏼😬⛵️
It is an awesome addition for sure. I'd be nervous installing it for someone else, as this is the only one I've ever done and I'm a total amateur, but happy to share my thoughts on anything you're thinking of doing with the understanding that it would just (hopefully) be a case of two heads are better than one? 🙏🏼😬
No worries let me clarify. Cubic 'Mini' is the name of the company who makes the stoves. There are two sizes to choose from, the 'Cub' and the Grizzly, both are Cubic Mini. The Cub is the smaller of the two mini stoves and we have the larger one (the Cubic mini Grizzly). Does that help clarify it for you? ☺️🙏🏼
For those that don't know, Stainless Steel comes in different grades. 316L is generally available (used a lot in the food industry) and reasonable in a salty environment.
@@TR4zest If I had a quid for every time that reference was made............. A weather is a yearling sheep, a halle is an angle, in this case an escarpment cut by the river Eden. A corner fenced off for yearling sheep, that's me.
@@jonathanwetherell3609 Apologies ... by my name, you can imagine how many times I have heard "... but I thought you drowned." Being the corner of a field is better.
Admonish me! I did have safety glasses on when I was cutting, but you're right that I didn't have gloves on! 😮 Hope you've had a great festive season and here's to a great start to 2023 🙏🏼☺️
Great questions. The diesel heater is totally fine to heat the boat, no problems there. However, we want to do a 365 day project where we are off-grid from any and all power supply grids and we like the fact that a second option with its own fuel supply also gives us redundancy. On top of that we need to figure out heating, cooking and hot water for the winter systems when we're off-grid in the colder season, when solar is not really an option, and so the wood burning stove can tackle off of those challenges. Does that seem fair?
Well we went with the same size as the rubber gasket and so far it seems to be working out just fine, although there is a bit of a sharpish edge to be mindful of now.
Hey happy Christmas to both of you and thank you for all the wonderful videos. I have a question that came to mind while watching, here goes.... So, how does the boat skin/core react when the temperatures are so adverse between outside and inside the boat? My thoughts were that could there be any chance of any of the core layers separating because of heat? Sry if this question is silly but it was just a thought that came to my mind. Thank so much...Neil
Hey Neil, it's not a silly question at all. I guess to be perfectly honest I don't really know how the boat will react until we see what unfolds. I'm not smart enough to do science theoretically, but I can monitor what actually happens and report back, I guess that makes me more of a science technician, perhaps? 😬😇 I will be keeping an eye on it and reporting what we find in a later video. I do take some comfort in the fact that quite a few people seem to have similar installs and I did add an additional air gap and metal shield too, so I hope that mitigates any risks further that what comes out of the box?
Nothing is wrong with it, the diesel heater is great, however we plan to go off grid in remote places soon and during the winter months we will need different systems in order to heat the boat, cook and make hot water for showers. The added benefit of wood burner is the fuel redundancy it gives us too, you know, incase fossil fuel costs ramp up unexpectedly due to inflation or a war or carbon taxes, etc. We're trying to make Cadoha as robust as we can in order to deal with as many eventualities as possible.
Thanks for the reply, Looks very interesting. I have now purchased a calorifier and could replace my LPG hot water boiler with said stove utilizing the flue opening above the bulkhead. All the best with your plans. Happy new year!!.....
The balsa core in the deck is now exposed. Using an epoxy slather might protect it for a season or two but consider; 1) the deck flexes and epoxy isn’t flexible so cracks may result, and 2) stove exhaust heat up the flue may encourage cracking in the epoxy as well. Since we are all friends of Madds I bet he would have overdrilled the deck hole an inch larger than the pipe required then I bet he would have used a 90 degree bent nail attached to an electric drill to route out a full circumference channel in the balsa core, then he would have sealed the hole’s bottom and filled the entire hole with vinylester flexible epoxy. Once it had hardened he would have drilled the smaller diameter flue hole in the vinylester patch. The result would have been a flexible, water resilient deck plug surrounding the flue. And I wonder about the stainless deck ring you welded into the outer flue pipe. That ring is going to transfer heat into the gaskets and deck sealants. Maybe that heat will keep the sealants soft and tight but maybe not? I’m not convinced. It’s a big hole and regardless of how it is built the ocean is going to find its way inside under extreme conditions. Madds what do you think?
I thought that diesel heater installation you did a couple of years back was absolutely brilliant and economical, what made you go with a different system. I must admit that I have been thinking both of your heating solutions. I had never heard of the mini-cube grizzly, definitely looks better than the the Dickenson wood stove, although I saw that you put together a hybrid flue and stack with a Dickenson part. That necessary hole in the the coach roof has always been a concern for me given all the engineering you did and the concerns of other followers. The documentation of your life living on a boat has always been informative, but I sometimes think you edit out important details from your videos for time and pacing. I would probably not watch if you were like Mads, but maybe one more wood stove video after you have been out at anchor for a week or so
Hey Jack, we'll make a stove review video after we've had it going a while and then share our findings with you. We added the stove as we're setting a challenge to go off-grid for 365 days in which case we need alternative means of cooking and making hot water, all of which we can do with a wood stove. Plus it's lovely to sit in front of a real fire at the end of a long day 😬
Best practice would be to remove the core so there is no exposed core in the hole, and fill it with thickened epoxy. Remove the core with a bent nail or a bent hex key in the end of a drill and rout out at least 1/4" deep.
Stay tuned for next episode: “How to Expeditiously Arrest a Smouldering Lazy-jack”. All kidding aside the CM will make the boat cozy. I also prefer the ambiance wood fires create but the diesel burners arent bad either. Just wondering if you considered the simplicity and constant fuel source of a diesel heater. Also wonder what your insurance thinks?
Good job....BUT.... when doing the epoxy on the deck core , dig out about 1/2" of core , heat the deck up & put the thin epoxy on to leach into the core (3 coats)then back fill with some Thickened Epoxy , to be sure , to be sure , to be sure , against any water intrusion to the core....it will only take an extra hour to achieve perfection....cheers
Appreciate the feedback there. The core was so solid that we figured that it'd be hard to use the old 'Allen key' method to bash it out, and we also thought that the 1 inch rim of CT1 along with the epoxy on the core edge, would hopefully be enough of a barrier to stop water ingress.
This seems like a huge amount of work, not to mention you may have leaks or other problems later on. Wouldn't it be easier just to pay moorage fees at a dock which includes electricity, which then keeps your boat toasty warm in the winter! Am I missing something? But now that its all finished, I guess my comment is a moot point. Oh well. And, I must say it looks really good and you did a "bang up" job of that ! Hope you can find a daily supply of wood.
If we intended to only stay put for winter then I would 100% agree with you, however our plans are to hopefully get out and enjoy some remote winter anchorages and be able to stay warm and dry, and cook when there's little solar to power our electrical cooking systems aboard.
I get what you a saying. I don’t want to speak for them but being off grid and self sufficient seems important to these two and if you think about it in most locations it would be easier to find wood rather than propane/diesel. Also scrap wood/pallets/ deadfall branches would be free. Merry Christmas guys all the best in the new year.
@@CadohaAdventures I can understand that, but what about the supply of wood? Do you have to phone a local firewood supply service and get them to deliver a week's worth of wood to the beach? I guess there would be room for a 2 week supply on board. Just thinking out loud here.........
IME marina fees rarely if ever include electricity charges. If you're mooring, there's almost always bits of driftwood lying about and/or dead trees. It really is transformative and never fails to lighten the mood. Even if you've been getting soaked all day, doing this and that. In otherwise warm / hot locations, you'll get cold snaps/storms and being able to light a log is worth it's weight in gold.
We just store it in the cockpit under the enclosure but we also have a pretty high sail locker onboard too where we could probably store a few months worth of fuel.
It hasn’t been on recently, but there will be lots of instances I can think of when we’ll flick it on for a while when we actually head off on the challenge 👌🏼
We always have a couple of hatches cracked open to help with air flow, and we’ve been using it for a month or so now and it seems to be running fine so far. 🙏🏼☺️🔥
When Uma installed their stove they sealed the core in their cabin top with a single layer of glass, that they trimmed to be proud of the cabin top. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E5gcSMzrhAk.html
