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Can We Pray for Satan? 

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"But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" - Mark Twain
Well, Mark, quite a lot of people did pray for Satan.
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@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 месяцев назад
"No more people-pleasing, only demon-burning!" mugs available! bibleillustrated.sellfy.store/p/no-more-people-pleasing-only-demon-burning/
@sourceconnection5957
@sourceconnection5957 2 месяца назад
In love and light ,may Jesus be with you always. Can you please do a video with more information about who has prayed for satan amongst saints? I personally feel better having no enemies , not even demons or Satan; For me to forgive Satan and just trust God feels liberating. We as christians are on a constant battle with evil and its exhausting; I personally feel better to just trust in Jesus, there is no battle, just victory laps in Jesus name. Ofcourse there is sin but for me psychologically it has made a big difference; Im out here washing my clothces clean with the name of Jesus, you know? your mentallity is either "gaaaah Demons are attacking" or it could be "I got a box full of Jesus and Im washing everything clean". I hope my points come across; Anyways, you can just imagine the hate storm I have gotten from Christians saying Im possessed praying for Satan. Would be nice to be able to take shelter with the saints. So a more into depth video about who has prayed for Satan and the legitimacy to pray for Satan; (such as Abraham praying for Sodom and Gomorra). Peace be with you in Jesus name .
@Darncoolcreeper
@Darncoolcreeper 5 месяцев назад
It sounds like something very dangerous because the demons would try to attack you harder for that.
@thedreadtyger
@thedreadtyger 5 месяцев назад
pray for Stan? yeah! all the time. he was one of my favorite uncles. oh. oh. never mind.
@ChristianWario
@ChristianWario 5 месяцев назад
I misread the title as “Can we pray to Satan?” Lol
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 месяцев назад
The answer may surprise you It's no
@alexanderbielski9327
@alexanderbielski9327 5 месяцев назад
I read it the same way and clicked to find out wether this was a joke or not 😂
@parkermize
@parkermize 5 месяцев назад
Lol​@@BanterWithBojan
@LoveLove-jk9kz
@LoveLove-jk9kz 5 месяцев назад
@@BanterWithBojan😱
@CocotheNut
@CocotheNut 5 месяцев назад
​​@@BanterWithBojanWow I am very surprised
@SpencerSmithOrthodox
@SpencerSmithOrthodox 5 месяцев назад
Someone posted the Mark Twain quote once and I just replied "St. Gregory of Nyssa"
@adjustedbrass7551
@adjustedbrass7551 5 месяцев назад
"Do you think it was the wrong choice?" Yes "Would you do it again?" 😈
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 месяцев назад
Demons will demon
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 месяцев назад
@@BanterWithBojan Sadly, this seems to be something of a dividing line even in humans as well. For example, some could experience the wrath of God indefinitely and never at any point repent when given the opportunity. It’s mind-boggling to me, but I also remember when I was like that… it’s so weird. It’s a very spiritual thing, so maybe that’s why
@Olgaleigh
@Olgaleigh 5 месяцев назад
This was the question my sweet 6 year old had. She said we shouldn’t hate anyone and should pray for all. We had to have a talk about humans and angles. It was so touching tho that she wanted his salvation and for him to end up loving God.
@LoveLove-jk9kz
@LoveLove-jk9kz 5 месяцев назад
6:31 that story reminds me of that scene from Scary Movie where the Ring character said “Thank you all your love has broken the curse and freed my soul” and she turns graceful. Then they said “Really?” and she immediately turns evil and says “No”
@user-jv9us9mi5m
@user-jv9us9mi5m 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your response to my comment Bojan!
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 месяцев назад
Always!
@Greeny_isthegoat
@Greeny_isthegoat Месяц назад
😅 my mother did as a newly born again christian until her journey matured. She said God HATES evil and so should we
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 месяцев назад
Bojan!! This video was great. Your takes are always so level-headed and wise. I can tell you’ve been Orthodox a while. You were the first Orthodox resource I ever found online about a year or two ago, and you helped me convert ❤️☦️🙏 (I’m still in the process of transitioning, but still. Plz say a quick prayer for my work/financial situation so my family can go to liturgy since I literally work at the same time every week during it)
@macdan22
@macdan22 5 месяцев назад
Am I going crazy or is this the voice of the channel Bible Illustrated?
@macdan22
@macdan22 5 месяцев назад
I feel dumb now for asking that question. Now that I've clicked on this channel home page. Love the work, thank you for time and effort. I have gleaned information while entertained. My A.D.D brain appreciates it.
@Darncoolcreeper
@Darncoolcreeper 5 месяцев назад
I’ve never seen biblie illustrated and banter with bojan in the same room at the same time.🤔
@colmcille9669
@colmcille9669 5 месяцев назад
​@@DarncoolcreeperDon't be silly, Bible Illustrated's hands look absolutely nothing like Bojan's face.
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 месяцев назад
@@colmcille9669 But do Bojan’s hands look like Bible Illustrated Hands’ face?
@colmcille9669
@colmcille9669 5 месяцев назад
@@littlefishbigmountain ...waaaaaait.... 🤔🧐😲
@LoveLove-jk9kz
@LoveLove-jk9kz 5 месяцев назад
Also the story of St. Anthony interested me so I looked it up and I saw the demon‘s response “if I wanted to call myself the ancient evil, and the abomination of desolation, and the one darkened by delusion, I would have done it earlier, in the beginning” I thought that response was interesting cause it shows the devils understand salvation requires a complete renunciation of their past and they don‘t have the same progressive sense humans do so the reaction kinda hints to me it would be harder for them to repent if not impossible, but only God knows.
@Pilgrim22
@Pilgrim22 5 месяцев назад
I would say, no. The demons hate mankind with an unimaginable malice. Im sure they get a kick out of a human praying for their souls.
@izxy70
@izxy70 5 месяцев назад
I think it’s the opposite, demons and satan hate God’s children so much that any prayers for them and love (in the sense of a Christlike love, not loving evil) would torment them more than anything. What pain is greater than one you hate loving you in return?
@AnonymousIdealist
@AnonymousIdealist 5 месяцев назад
@@izxy70Still, don’t pray for them and they will attack you.
@colmcille9669
@colmcille9669 5 месяцев назад
I used to after encountering God and satan but long before I was Christian until I felt compelled not to so I'll be very interested in an Orthodox answer to a question I haven't asked since entering the Church. I think demons and angels are too aware of their choices to be capable of repentence like us.
@TinaICXCNIKA
@TinaICXCNIKA 5 месяцев назад
Hello Bojan. Have you done a video on the 'visits' of family/friends who have passed? If so, would you please link it here? I have an Aunt who has 'visits' from her Father but let me tell you, they don't sound ummm, 'healthy' in any way. May the Lord bless you and yours.
@KnoxEmDown
@KnoxEmDown 5 месяцев назад
Poor Mr. Twain :(
@sourceconnection5957
@sourceconnection5957 3 месяца назад
In absolute love and light in unity with God in Jesus name; I come with absolute love and compassion and I mean all the very best, please forgive me if I say something out of order, this is not my intention; I am a Christian , a witness to Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior; I was saved 8 of may 2023; I had searched for God for long , mad many deep mystical experiences but it was all like ash compared to Jesus. Jesus is truly our lord and savior, confess his name even right now; say outloud with your mouth that you want his help, confess him as your Lord and savior, make him your supreme leader even right now, believe he died for the very heavy burden of sin, that he died on the cross for all our sins and was resurrected so that we all may walk with God, It is in the name of JEsus Christ of Natharet; The one born in Bethlehem, the one and only, the historical person that is man and God, The one that was called the Nazareen, the one called the son of man, the one called the lamb of God, the one that saved all of creation by his Royal and holy blood; IT is in this name I come; I am born again in his perfect image; Day by day I bring in more and more of God; He corrects me and leads me on his path eternally, his kingdom is even right now; May his will be done on earth as it is in heaven, always in all ways; May he guide us all in thought, feelings and actions, may we stand steadfast with patiance and endurance always in his perfect name, Jesus Christ; Amen; So; I really think we should pray for Satan, As a christian I am asked to ask for forgiveness and also to give forgiveness; We are not asked to forgive with restriction. How often should we forgive? Who is the lost sheep of Jesus? Is there a sinner that is to big for Jesus? Does God have limits? I feel called to forgive Satan and ask for forgiveness if I ever did do anything to hurt him or to keep him away from salvation; My God is an awesome God and he reigns from heaven above; May 2 or more pray for Satan and I know God will make a way. Where does it say that there is a heart that God cannot heal? When I came to God; I did so because God called me home; I did so because God willed it so. I dont know how everything works but I do belive that God does what God wills, and if God so wills he will save Satan; He will bring Satan home. Not will, but the will of God be done; But I dont think there is anything wrong with praying for Satan, I think this is how we will heal the world. God is beyond any limitations, dont you think that? if God wants to do this then he will do it. So please brothers and sisters in Christ; Pray for Satan to come home; Personally I will also ask for Satans forgiveness; As I am asked to forgive and ask for everyones forgiveness. This is more then anything how we should project our energy out to the world. To forgive and ask for forgiveness; To live in a state of love; where all evil is just an illusion. There is no one to fear, no one to hate; You dont have to be friends with every one , you dont have to be near everyone, you dont have to like what they do, but it is for your best to feel love for everyone; Yes even Benjamin Netanyahu and Hitler and Satan. I was born a sinner; So therefor I must have been part of the problem , no matter where that problem was; As a born again Christian and born again in the perfect image of God in Jesus name; I cast off the mask of hurt and forgiveness; Satan please forgive me my sins as I forgive you yours; Peace be with you; Kingdom of God is now; In Jesus name. Matthew 6:9-13 King James Version 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
@Gerasimos_slava
@Gerasimos_slava 5 месяцев назад
I remember Saint Paisios did pray for it.
@batbite_
@batbite_ 5 месяцев назад
Like we cannot allow ourselves to be abused we still pray for the heart of our abusers to be changed, while we wish for the devil to repent we cannot allow ourselves to succumb to him. If you say that the devil's heart is unchangeable, and let's say that you're telling me the truth - can God not still change his heart? Can the lord not do the impossible? If we are condemned eternally, can God not forgive us beyond eternity? Let's hope and pray like the father of the latin church that hell is empty, for hope is our gift while the power is God's.
@Fadi-antabeel
@Fadi-antabeel 5 месяцев назад
Angels and demons live in the eternal realm. They cannot change their minds and they will not, this is why no angels swear by anything and why all of God’s promises come true, the eternal does not change. The demons cannot repent because they made up their minds eons ago. We are temporal and thus we can change our minds, we can repent. Likewise, it certainly is a delightful thought that hell will be empty, but we mustn’t say that no one is heading their and they do not require prayers. Instead of praying for the devil, pray for the temporal, sinners like you and I, the souls in hades/purgatory/the toll houses (depending on what you believe), pray for the forgotten. When was the last time you prayed for Caesar Augustus, or Al-Khwarizmi? God can cause a demon to repent as indeed He is outside of time, eternal and temporal, but why would He if He knows the demons are unrepentant and cold of heart. Likewise God could’ve already had a demon repent and we would’ve never known as for all of eternity that repentant demon was an angel. Something to think about.
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 месяцев назад
It’s not about what the Lord is ABLE to do, it’s about what He’s already revealed is going to happen. He’s not going to answer your prayer to contradict His revelation. Our prayers are answered when we pray God’s will; St. Peter said to the Lord far be it from You to go to the cross, and the Lord rebuked him and said get behind me, Satan.
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 месяцев назад
@@Fadi-antabeel Why are you speaking like God chooses when and if to “repent” people or not?
@Fadi-antabeel
@Fadi-antabeel 5 месяцев назад
I agree with your first point, actually I agree with all of your points. The reason I talk about the Lord letting people repent is because some just never repent. Otherwise Jesus would not have mentioned the unforgivable sin. Yet again, who am I to perfectly know God’s will. Anyways my point still stands, maybe some demons did repent, we just can’t measure their change. They could in fact be known to us as angels, but epochs ago they were demons, but they simply repented.
@batbite_
@batbite_ 5 месяцев назад
I just hope he and we together in the end can look at all of creation without exception and see that it's good 🩷
@christophersnedeker
@christophersnedeker 5 месяцев назад
Bojan, how do you reconcile the amillenialist position of the orthodox church with the part in revelations that talks about the millenial reign?
@HomoEucharistica
@HomoEucharistica 5 месяцев назад
Even though there are some early teachers of the Church who seem to be "Millennialists" (at least some people, because it was condemned as a heresy later on), generally it is understood that the millennial reign simply means this "age of grace" or "the age of the Church" - "the first resurrection" being used to refer to those who have clothed themselves with Christ and thus made alive in Him... The Book of Revelation was one of the hardest books to read already in its own time (prophetic books generally are), even though Christians in the 2nd and 3rd centuries likely knew what it meant, at least better than we do. That's why it is not mentioned among the books recommended to be read in the 85th Apostolic Canon. But even if we approach that passage (Rev. 20:4-5) using "Sola Scriptura", its literal interpretation doesn't make sense even then - one reason why Martin Luther rejected Millennialism... We cannot take one passage and separate it from its context, but it needs to be read as a part of Holy Tradition, or very least as a part of the whole Bible (that is a part of Holy Tradition).
@pierceh.5670
@pierceh.5670 5 месяцев назад
All the people to pray for and fools wanna pray for the devil 😅 pray for your dead ancestors at least they need it
@kellyshea92
@kellyshea92 5 месяцев назад
People asked about this? We already know his outcome after the 2nd coming.
@voxlknight2155
@voxlknight2155 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't Mark Twain a Christian? I haven't actually read all of his works so maybe this was in character from an atheist or something, Dosoevsky style. Like, he didn't actually take the objection seriously, but said it in chactacter from the perspectifve of someone who who is an atheist and does. Idk, that's probably an ass pullon my part, correct me if I'm wrong.
@SpencerSmithOrthodox
@SpencerSmithOrthodox 4 месяца назад
Mark Twain was one of the most notable American critics of Christianity of his time, though some of his harsher criticisms were kept from the public until after his death. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain#Religion
@panapolyEpirus
@panapolyEpirus 5 месяцев назад
Satan commited an ultimate evil, we can't pray for him
@j.fu.re.
@j.fu.re. 5 месяцев назад
Bojan does not look like how I imagined 😭
@teodorianec
@teodorianec 5 месяцев назад
How did you imagine him?
@j.fu.re.
@j.fu.re. 5 месяцев назад
@@teodorianec like his drawing of himself with long hair
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 месяцев назад
I did have long hair before, I just like drawing it all wavy :)
@ToaDriken
@ToaDriken 5 месяцев назад
Even if demons were real, they underestimate the human ability to sexualize anything
@waltershumer4211
@waltershumer4211 5 месяцев назад
Does anyone have a guess as to what allows for the inherent suffering in nature of all animals eating one another? I have heard this has to do with Adam sinning but I don't know why the poor little animals should be punished for such a thing. Parasites ticks and tapeworms slowly killing an animal from the inside out😢 Komodo dragons biting their prey and following them for weeks while they slowly die of infection.,... Know the way that cats like to play with the animals they kill whom are obviously in great pain and terror...... What kind of benevolent God would set things up in this way? Because apparently all of this is quite necessary for life itself to continue, so if suffering is evil then life must be evil? there's a Buddhist sect of monks called Jains, their ambition is not to kill anything, of course they're vegetarians, But they wear masks to keep from breathing in microscopic organisms, and wear pads on their feet when walking through grass so it's not to kill in a little creatures in the grass. It always makes me think how futile it is to try to be moral in this way because life is something that devours itself to continue.
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 5 месяцев назад
When Christ reigns the wolf will lay down with the lamb, the lion will graze straw like the ox, and a little child will lead them both. That’s the way it was originally intended. God gave man and all the animals the plants and green herbs and fruit-bearing plants yielding seeds of their own kind for all creatures to eat, the earth itself watered the ground but it didn’t sprout up weeds. That’s the way God originally made it, very good. Also, notice how the symbol for eating the flesh of Christ is not meat offering but bread. He could’ve simply said, “I am the Lamb that came down from heaven,” and the Eucharist could be meat, but it’s not. Flesh doesn’t typify flesh, bread does. That’s because (among other things!!) we’re going to be celebrating the Eucharist with the High Priest of Our Confession both now and ever and unto the ages of ages, amin 🙏 and bread is a picture of the wheat cycle from working the ground, to planting, tending, and harvesting, then the grain being separated from the chaff, then the crushing, and the combining of that with certain ingredients such as water, oil, leavening, etc. which each, along with the way they’re incorporated and baked/cooked and finished give each type a unique fingerprint, but for the Eucharist there is a specific holy recipe that is of special significance because of the consecrated purpose the Lord has given it. We also read, “Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel. Curds and honey He shall eat, that He may know to refuse the evil and choose the good. For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings.“ ~‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭7‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ It seems that the Lord ate and drank many things, bread, water, wine, milk, butter, cheese, honeycomb, fish, lamb, poultry, bitter herbs, figs, etc. So while He did eat meat, it wasn’t that much and it was usually fish-not to mention fishing was the most common profession amongst the apostles-, with red meat probably being the rarest (although the fatted calves, goats, etc. were used for big celebrations and occasions).
@teodorianec
@teodorianec 5 месяцев назад
It is useless and also possibly sinful, because you go against God's decision to punish someone. We pray for people, because they can change at time. Same way we don't pray for unbaptised and those who died in mortal sin, only if we are uncertain and pray that God will reveal it to us. Satan made his choice in eternity and therefore there will be no point in time for his salvation. We don't pray for angels because we assured they chose God in eternity. Why we should not follow the same logic for Satan?
@andrej_hh
@andrej_hh 5 месяцев назад
We do pray for unbaptized
@izxy70
@izxy70 5 месяцев назад
I know praying for Satan is useless in this life, but I pray that in eternity he might be blessed with even a single tear of repentance as he suffers in hell. Is it useless? Probably. But I still pray out of charity.
@YariAbigailX3
@YariAbigailX3 5 месяцев назад
Don't.
@igorlopes7589
@igorlopes7589 5 месяцев назад
No, period
@floridaman318
@floridaman318 5 месяцев назад
The "face" of Christianity and the internal reality don't really line up. This is rather frustrating.
@jonaszswietomierz8017
@jonaszswietomierz8017 5 месяцев назад
Wdym?
@Skullnaught
@Skullnaught 5 месяцев назад
How so
@user-xd4rs6vr4n
@user-xd4rs6vr4n 5 месяцев назад
If anything, we should pray for "Yahweh"/"Jehovah" because Jesus says that "Yahweh" is more evil than the most evil of the Jews who were plotting the crucifixion in Matthew 7:7-12, due to "Yahweh's" demonic behavior in Exodus, specifically "Yahweh's" cursing his own children the Israelites with vipers because they dared to ask for bread in the wilderness. Although it probably wouldn't work for the reasons you describe.
@BanterWithBojan
@BanterWithBojan 5 месяцев назад
Yahweh in the desert was Jesus Himself
@mpoumpasgr
@mpoumpasgr 5 месяцев назад
That's gnostic bs
@user-xd4rs6vr4n
@user-xd4rs6vr4n 5 месяцев назад
@@BanterWithBojanMaybe that is the tradition that was handed down to you by which you make the word of God of no effect, but Jesus denounced "Yahweh" in Matthew 7, pointing out that not even the most evil man among the Jews would not punish his own children with vipers, just for asking for bread, as "Yahweh" did. And Jesus said many things like this.
@user-xd4rs6vr4n
@user-xd4rs6vr4n 5 месяцев назад
@@mpoumpasgr "Gnosis" just means "knowledge." You are correct, I know this, and you yourself know also that "Yahweh's" behavior is not the image of Jesus Christ. You have just been taught otherwise by false Elders and worship their traditions, as the Pharisees worshiped their traditions.
@BibleIllustrated
@BibleIllustrated 5 месяцев назад
@@user-xd4rs6vr4n That He denounced Yahweh is purely your own conjecture. He calls Himself Yahweh in John 8:48
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