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Can We Stop Hating on New Creative Directors? 

Bliss Foster
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The job of creative director of a major fashion brand is a complex one - it’s a role that comes with a lot of pressure. The job description, especially in fashion, is nuanced, broad, and complex - an appointment comes with a whole new creative vision that extends into the photography, social media output, public relations strategy and most importantly the clothes. Why are we so fast to pass judgement on creative directors right when they start a new career path? New appointments are always exciting - just recently we’ve seen Sabato de Sarno at Gucci, Ludovic de Saint Sernin at Ann Demeulemeester, Harris Reed at Nina Ricci, Maximilian Davis at Ferragamo and most controversially, Pharrell Williams at Louis Vuitton Mens. Are we too hasty when we pass judgements on these designers’ first collections? Why can’t we just be happy for them?
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@FabulousResults
@FabulousResults Год назад
The ultimate problem is that we can't judge work that hasn't happened yet. Unfair or not, people are going to look at what's presented and form an opinion. It's fair to go in with measured expectations, but this is part of the process of presenting your work to the world. As Jackie Chan said (paraphrasing): "will you go to every single theater and tell the audience [why the movie was bad]? No. The audience in the theater says it's a good movie or a bad movie" The work lives forever in the mind of the audience.
@jcg8469
@jcg8469 Год назад
I think unfortunately this ultimately leads to worse and worse design, we already excuse far too much from fashion houses/brands. Ludovic presented an abysmal collection; Pharrell has no reason to be LV mens (in a CD capacity at least) besides pure cynical late state capitalism; Sabato is a stooge - a puppet to be dictated to and have no say, as Kerring has made clear will be the future for all their CDs; lets not even get into the mess that was Burberry; etc etc etc If we claim to care about fashion we need to hold the industry and its people to high standards not just ‘be happy for them’. This current prevailing idea that any kind of genuine critique means you're some kind of misanthrope that needs to be stomped out has gone on far too long and its obvious who this mindset benefits and who it doesn’t… Also fashion shows have been around for a very long time now, everyone knows that first shows tend to go poorly at this point. It isn’t good enough. If this is so widespread/systemic then the system needs to change so that designers can actually bring to the table something worthwhile and nuanced from the get-go. A first collection should be an exciting and bold step forward - a reinterpretation of what has come before and an insight into the future. Just because they’ve often sucked for decades doesn’t mean its natural law, it’s something that should be challenged until it’s fixed. These are multi-million dollar earning businesses, they should have systems in place for integrating new people and getting everyone up to speed. To get specific about Ludovic’s collection, the main issue with the “hand bra” is now decades old - its old news and he didn’t extend our understanding of it rather he just copied it without engaging with its nuance. In the context of his very slim, very revealing collection it didn’t have the mystery, the sensuality or the romanticism of Ann’s use of the “hand bra” - it felt tacky and pornographic. Ann balanced masculinity and femininity, when she removed layers and let us peer in and see the body, it was powerful. Ludovic showed none of that. This alongside the choice to use Kendall Jenner street photos makes it clear that the brand is going against what it once stood for.
@CB12455
@CB12455 Год назад
THIS COMMENT. I wish I could like it a thousand times.
@benjaminmtang
@benjaminmtang 10 месяцев назад
👏👏👏👏👏
@sethfriedermann7561
@sethfriedermann7561 Год назад
A new head designer or creative director at an established house understands that you must not alienate the existing clientele. This is so basic that it almost always doesn't even have to be mentioned.
@mrdecember
@mrdecember Год назад
I disagree! I think it's purely up to the creative director / board of directors to decide that. Some brands, have an ageing clientele and want to shift the interest to a new demographic. An easy example of this would be recent years of Louis Vuitton Menswear. I think it's getting more and more common and certain heritage brands consumer base are ageing / dying off. I think outside of celebrity culture, this is a big issue for certain couturiers too
@sethfriedermann7561
@sethfriedermann7561 Год назад
@@mrdecember I'm speaking from 20+ years experience. Even if a brand wants to add to it's clientele they will never intentionally alienate existing customers.
@mrdecember
@mrdecember Год назад
@@sethfriedermann7561 I agree that’s generally the case. But I can’t help but think about Celine’s transition to Hedi Slimane from Phoebe Philo. To this day I don’t think they’ve really recaptured any of the group of clients they alienated with his collections, and that makes me think it was purposeful. But I have no clue what the conversations are going on in the inside.
@sethfriedermann7561
@sethfriedermann7561 Год назад
@@mrdecember I agree in that particular case but LVMH wanted to add menswear to Celine which I think was the primary driver of that choice. It's funny about that particular situation. I asked dozens of friends in fashion about that at the time and without exception men reacted positively and women hated it. I can't think of another instance where I saw that split.
@vctrszuwu
@vctrszuwu Год назад
I feel like daniel lee really alienated the burberry clientele with his latest collection
@ronjarad2536
@ronjarad2536 Год назад
Amazingly explained. And I have to add: comparison is the death to everything. And even more: I hate the narrative we are living in: why do we always have to be better? Why do we expect always more/better? I think creativity has nothing to do with “better than”. It’s more like a “different than - also good”. And yes even as a creative you can have a lack of ideas for a moment. And the most important: creatively is a process that can take years. But in a fast world, we are not willing to wait that long I guess, to judge.
@yujyunchen8914
@yujyunchen8914 Год назад
I work in high end garment development & production. myself also coming from professional fashion design school. From my experience the issue among the entire fashion industry is that all the hype in celebrity designers results in the problem of non professionals leading the actual professionals. Design can definitely be art but art is not design. Design eventually comes out a “product” that can be produced in certain standards and practicabilities, which requires professional expertise in trainings and many years of experience. But nowadays the majority only look up to celebrity designers whom take all the credits and attention but are not doing the actual works and they know nothing about garment development. Overall the industry under this climate become a very toxic environment because the industry leaders are those who don’t really understand how many works required to make a real garment with high quality craftsmanship. And that’s the problem in current fashion world that comes out with more & more overpriced trash.
@aimeeaztec4601
@aimeeaztec4601 Год назад
My hi-tech analysis is that change is always initially bad, then either worse or better with time! I will be very keen to see where demna goes next. Thanks bliss!
@mrdecember
@mrdecember Год назад
I was actually considering making a similar video, but you captured what I’ve been saying to people for years. You can’t determine if the hiring of a CD was the right move just off of their debut collection a the new house. Like with any job in any industry, you need some teething time to learn the ropes and find your rhythm in that company. With any other job, no one expects you to be better than your predecessor during your very first week haha.
@PINKPUDDLE
@PINKPUDDLE Год назад
Your work is amazing Bliss, thank you!!!
@AustynRich
@AustynRich Год назад
Great video Bliss!
@motelmicrowave
@motelmicrowave Год назад
Nah, hate hate hate. In this case stop with the celebrity designers the human made stuff ice cream is all stinky, some fresh non celebrity designer should have got the spot bared the storm and settled in
@denniskeller5441
@denniskeller5441 Год назад
Thank you for this video 🙏🏻🙌🏻🫶
@duchessedeberne3909
@duchessedeberne3909 Год назад
As the carusel turns, one may ask oneself what remains distinct to a fashion house?
@tseamus8288
@tseamus8288 Год назад
What i hate about new creative directors who erase 80% the maison dna and make them like their own so makes no difference...
@arianavalois5872
@arianavalois5872 2 месяца назад
same, they hired people who have zero clue of the house codes and doesnt understand anything about the OG designer's work..
@ninaml8560
@ninaml8560 Год назад
Hi bliss! Unrelated to the topic, but i’d like to say that i would highly appreciate if you could add the name of the brand/season with the runway vids🙏 lots of love!!
@alexanderpons9246
@alexanderpons9246 Год назад
Excellent topic to discuss Bliss Foster! Many times Fashion Lovers/Enthusiasts get too caught up with one particular designer or creative director but the reality behind it all is that very few of us know it. The point you mentioned about the begening with Raf Simmons at DIOR is a great example, also sometimes brands want to go after their real customers and those customers are not us the Fashion Lovers/Enthusiast. Thank you for all the great content you make Mister!
@fairuzastevenson9896
@fairuzastevenson9896 Год назад
Thank you Bliss
@Star-Pilled
@Star-Pilled 10 месяцев назад
Great video!
@matthewsperspective
@matthewsperspective Год назад
i didn’t even finish watching yet but YES. I AGREE. OF COURSE THEY ARE NOT THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR. the only new director i feel like really avoided big-time criticism was ib kamara
@stevezytveld6585
@stevezytveld6585 Год назад
On behalf of Gen X (and my resume displays this amply), it takes a year to learn a job. It takes the second year to start to figure out how and where to change things and what all the doohickeys in the corporate tool-box are capable of. Making something so complex that it takes multiple sewing studios to complete an ensable for the runway... that's a whole lot of people to work through to get to the final object. Chill critics, chill. Let the Creative Directors and artisans work it out. - Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
@i123456987654
@i123456987654 Год назад
I love Pharrell but I don’t think making him the CD of LV was the right choice
@CB12455
@CB12455 Год назад
Should have been Grace Wales Bonner.
@Hugo-hghdesignstudio
@Hugo-hghdesignstudio Год назад
love this!
@derber6836
@derber6836 Год назад
Raf at calvin was great since the first Show
@eyaiseya
@eyaiseya Год назад
I agree! It's so telling that anyone can become a singer, painter etc from non traditional art/design backgrounds but when its fashion everyone goes up in arms
@anonymousgirl799
@anonymousgirl799 10 месяцев назад
Pharrell Williams is NOT a master tailor, nor is his background in fashion. His LV collection sucked. I said it!!!
@jimjimgl3
@jimjimgl3 Год назад
Buyers never said: "Let's let the new creative director build up slowly..."
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
That’s absolutely true, and a great point to bring up. For buyers and big customers, the standard is different 💫💫
@jimjimgl3
@jimjimgl3 Год назад
@@BlissFoster But I agree that there is that shakedown period for creative directors being plopped into a new institution. There must be so many entrenched habits and personalities that are unhappy with a changing CD that there may even be subtle moments of sabotage. Which is what came to mind when you spoke about Simons asking why there weren't 10 gowns ready... I was for years a director of photography in publishing in NYC. And when the new creative team came in sometimes the existing staff did not want to make changes or just were truthfully unable to execute the new vision and I'm sure the same holds true for fashion houses.
@greatestever8772
@greatestever8772 Год назад
Even Marc Jacob’s first show as a creative director at LV was a very ‘slow start’ when he took a sort of minimalist approach - it received harsh criticism. Quickly, he realized that he didn’t match his collection to the LV’s target audience - the audience needed the pieces to make a statement. The next seasons to come were very different and more maximalist than his first. The 2001 collection with Stephen Sprouse is an example of going maximalist - pieces that scream ‘LOUIS VUITTON’ and this has to be one of my favorite, if not my favorite LV collection. Some argue that Jacobs helped take the brand off to extreme heights with his collections and I couldn’t agree more. THINGS TAKE TIME PEOPLE!
@Trekki200
@Trekki200 Год назад
And pretty much the same deal with John Galliano and Lee McQueen at Givency and the former at Dior. And (albeit with a different nuance to it) Tom Ford at Gucci, at YSL and even at his own house. First seasons just about always suck... Even in the cases where people love a first collection that is often due to whatever came before it, rather than the collection itself. Case in point: Alessandro Michele at Gucci, the first collection was applauded for being “new“ and assembled in super short time, but only with the second or third one the reviews started calling them 'good' rather than ' promising '; Similar thing with Daniel Roseberry at Schiaparelli, first season was "bold", "refreshing" and "took a lot of risks", it was great in comparison, but it took him two others to actually make a collection that stood without that backdrop. Judging designers by the first collection is not a good idea because more often than not the first collection at a house is the worst collection that designer makes for that house...
@jojosneakers9365
@jojosneakers9365 Год назад
First luv the videos
@LEGENDoa
@LEGENDoa Год назад
Damn you’re good at this
@Angelvandrade
@Angelvandrade 7 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 7 месяцев назад
Thank YOU 💫💫
@icaprone1
@icaprone1 Год назад
I understand you want this to be about all new creative directors but really this sprouted and lands on Pharrell. Sorry but it just is. You are right!. New directors deserve the space to make their work happen. But Pharrell. There's little reason to believe in his design (creative) or guidance (director). Ultimately it really doesn't matter because he will simply cherry pick from the creative army at LV. Ultimately It's just sort of another subject.
@ophilianecr
@ophilianecr Год назад
Hey Bliss, new sub, love your commentary on fashion!!! ♡ There's a very interesting phenomenon in the fashion space happening, where the same people who criticize fashion directors, have opposing views. I've seen old and new directors being torn down for not being "artistic/ daring" enough with their work, like Michael Kors, but there's simultaneously say things like _"Who would wear that? Its ugly and not wearable fashion."_ 🙄 The latter comments show up with more avant garde looks from people like Iris Van Herpen or Guo Pei. Obviously those creatives who cater to the masses like MK, have their merits in the basics of tailoring and structure, working within the bounds of the conservative elements of fashion, as his new show showed. I can appreciate that regardless of personal taste. IvH and GP push the bounds of what we think of transformative wearable art; they exist to explore what can be, what the wearer can be. This whole discussion has a weird element where the visual consumer (not even the ones who purchase designer brands) want every designer to cater to them, regardless of any money being spent at all. Its a way for them to gatekeep the creative process strictly for consumption, not the expression of what fashion design brings to the world of fashion expression. Why even have different design "signatures" or "brand essence" if the masses who don't consume, are calling the shots with ill informed opinions??? 🤔😮‍💨
@stellarrig
@stellarrig Год назад
im so excited for what pharrell brings to louis vuitton.. he was friends with virgil and i think the LV aw22 show was an amazing precursor to what pharrell has in store!!
@1k5uv13
@1k5uv13 Год назад
Personally, I think there is a fine line between getting upset for no reason and becoming too critical, AND not being critical at all because we understand what they are trying to achieve and build up. This is a problem in art as well. Because after a decade or so, it is fair to look back and understand the process and I assume this is what most people on this channel want from fashion as well. But there needs to be space for criticism toward these bigger companies and they decision to hire certain art directors (of course not a criticism to the person, but their work). Often I dont like the first few collections, I am more critical than a smaller desiger that just started out. But if I dont like it, I will skip a few seasons and come back later.
@diemes5463
@diemes5463 Год назад
nuance is why I follow you Bliss
@blair821
@blair821 11 месяцев назад
Love it.
@Aluenvey
@Aluenvey 7 месяцев назад
Is being something of a slow burn a standard thing in the industry? Im more of a musician myself, but its so common for people to get the idea Im into fashion? But I have been slowly building up my style so if I ever go to a fashion house, I can have what I do as a portfolio.
@wiba1641
@wiba1641 Год назад
Thank you for your videos!
@fr-frfr
@fr-frfr Год назад
np
@aldogoegan3091
@aldogoegan3091 Год назад
Agreed… we need to evaluate the journey or evolution. I think quick/snap judgments have lead to the current lethal cancel culture. Not just for fashion but life.
@JG-qt3pn
@JG-qt3pn 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this. I will hold my nose and give Matthew Williams more time.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 10 месяцев назад
Matthew has been at the brand for years, his intro period is over. But I’ve seen some of his womenswear in person and I liked it. Have you seen our review in the 90 minute Paris fashion week episode?
@JG-qt3pn
@JG-qt3pn 10 месяцев назад
@@BlissFoster I have now and thank you. Very edifying. I agree, that womenswear collection was a good collection. Interestingly, the parts I found the weakest were reminiscent of his menswear collection. On the menswear side he still seems to be finding space for himself inside the codes of the house. Some of the looks on the menswear side were assemblages of exhausted tropes and clichés groaning under the weight of their ubiquity. A frayed hem does not a reference make. Thank you for prompting me to take a second look. Also, thank you for sharing your passion with us.
@hipcityreg
@hipcityreg Год назад
“Those flashes came slowly” Such an important bar when opinion/critique forms at algorithmic newsfeed speed. Such a different pacing compared to engineering a collection / ideally multiple collections
@cassandrahenry6836
@cassandrahenry6836 Год назад
Thanks
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
Ayyyyy thank you!! 🙏🙏
@JohnDoe-vc5qb
@JohnDoe-vc5qb Год назад
Hmm, LV seem to have some interesting hiring patterns. Seems like there’s someone who should be thanked for all that.
@TehMr
@TehMr Год назад
whoever was in paris or something
@dalecaldwell
@dalecaldwell Год назад
I suppose that there is a fashion equivalent of the Gallerie Refuse?
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
Hey Dale! What’s that?
@aaronjanlistanco
@aaronjanlistanco Год назад
MOSCHINO & TRUSSARDI I'm wait revealing thier respectively new Creative Director
@mattusandreasen4813
@mattusandreasen4813 Год назад
Cant wait to see boring and dull collections from gucci moving forward!
@RAYSMILE190
@RAYSMILE190 11 месяцев назад
BUT WHAT IF WE START CHANGING THEM TOO FAST? WHAT WILL HAPPEN....
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 месяцев назад
You’re talking about with Lanvin? I don’t like that strategy at all. AZ Factory is good bc they’re giving small artists a shot; but this celeb “residency” thing is not good
@gregdahlen4375
@gregdahlen4375 Год назад
does this imply that houses try hard to keep their current designer(s)?
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
Houses want to keep them as long as they make money. I wanna answer your question fully tho, what part of the video are you responding to?
@gregdahlen4375
@gregdahlen4375 Год назад
@@BlissFoster Well, I think I got from the video that the first shows/lines of a new creative director may be rather bland/safe (your word was "conservative"). Did I understand correctly? Would these diminish the reputation of the house? So a house might rather stick with their long-time designer who has put the blander early years behind him or her and is more into an adventurous phase? Do those early, safer (or more "conservative") lines of a new creative director sell well?
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
It’s really hard to say. Houses keep their sales numbers secret. The public has no way of knowing who sells the most overall or who sold the most this quarter (tho many sources try to triangulate this information).
@LEGENDoa
@LEGENDoa Год назад
I’m launching a brand soon
@aaronsalazar1695
@aaronsalazar1695 Год назад
let's stop hating on new ones and hate on hedi slimane still
@vctrszuwu
@vctrszuwu Год назад
I guess harris reed took the opposite approah of starting big and then toning down his vision for nina ricci !
@josefk5659
@josefk5659 Год назад
He didn't tone down the vision, his vision was exposed. It's amateur / student level designing. An instagram filter can't save you on the runway in 4k.
@CB12455
@CB12455 Год назад
I'm just waiting for Phoebe's return. She'll soon make everyone else look ridiculous. Old Celine is still miles ahead.
@SAINTPONTIUS
@SAINTPONTIUS Год назад
They just make it too damn easy
@nancyperreault3732
@nancyperreault3732 Год назад
Sooooo geo-politically in-tune !
@johntucker361
@johntucker361 Год назад
i thought ludovic's ann demeulemeester show was amazing because i had never checked out any of the brand's previous collections, perspective + expectations can really set people up to be disappointed by art that would be beautiful under any other lens
@ericmitchell133
@ericmitchell133 Год назад
I love how Bliss Foster, actually is the nuanced meaning of his name, Bliss, keeps the mind in “complete happiness and joy”, in this case with the subject we gather here for, Fashion…. Foster “affording, receiving, or sharing nurture” to our conceptual relationship to The Fashion Industry. And all in a positive thought provoking light, never any negative mudslinging, which in todays world of jilted sarcasm, is a rare, and dare i say, beautiful experience.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
Damn Eric! That’s really kind. I thrive on encouragement, thank you 💫💫
@sarahwatts7152
@sarahwatts7152 Год назад
It seems like a dammed-if-you-do, dammed-if-you-don't situation. Either a house keeps a creative director for too long and stagnates or new directors don't do exactly what the house did before.
@EnzoMingo
@EnzoMingo Год назад
Not at all bothered or suprised by the Pharrel pick, seems natutal
@w.urlitzer1869
@w.urlitzer1869 Год назад
can we have real designers back?
@teddybearisms2505
@teddybearisms2505 10 месяцев назад
This isn't necessarily about this subject, but more about your approach. I actually think you're too...post modernist? If that makes any sense? Meritocracy needs to exists, otherwise NOTHING has value in fashion. If you can't take somebody out to dry, then you might as well not express anything.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 10 месяцев назад
I totally hear what you’re saying. I want to clarify that there absolutely *is* bad fashion design. We don’t ever take Designers out to dry on this channel because I don’t want to spend 50 hours and my entire work week making a video about something I don’t like 😂 My only point with this video was that expecting someone to turn out a bombastic result within three months of getting a new job is just unrealistic. I’m definitely not arguing for “it’s all relative, everything is good if you think about it the right way,“ I personally find that viewpoint to be a cop out and goofy and ultimately impossible to defend. All I’m arguing for here is realistic expectations.
@rozsakyshki1930
@rozsakyshki1930 Год назад
why no women getting these jobs? And why only super young men or hot men get the spot? I'm suspicious of the ways fashion deals w/ stuff
@josefk5659
@josefk5659 Год назад
Please, Harris Reed's Nina was god awful.
@mcb.7839
@mcb.7839 Год назад
Valeu!
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
Thanks homie!! 😌
@jdhay88
@jdhay88 Год назад
Say it with me…WHERE ARE THE WOMEN!?
@escapejudgement
@escapejudgement Год назад
WHERE ARE THE CLOTHES MARTY? LOL
@squareglobeplus
@squareglobeplus Год назад
good
@daniellord-vera6987
@daniellord-vera6987 Год назад
I understand being open to new heads but what I find it disappointing is that for these position they should hire peoples who have a degree in fashion and not just clout individuals.
@cjjohnson2898
@cjjohnson2898 Год назад
Pharrell has always been in fashion 😂 what are u saying?
@daniellord-vera6987
@daniellord-vera6987 Год назад
@@cjjohnson2898 a fashion design degree as in they studied it, vs someone who is a pop culture icon someone who understands patterns sewing textiles prints history who can bring that Pharrell was mostly with adidas shoes which doesn’t really mean much i would’ve rather seen someone like grace whales bonnet be the creative director
@davidpachecogarcia
@davidpachecogarcia Год назад
Are we saying that the only way to get to these positions is through a degree? I don’t think that’s the solution especially when universities have their own way of influencing designers. They have their own vision of what “fashion” is. What about the people who can’t afford a degree but love fashion? Those who teach themselves? Unless it’s being regulated by the state we def don’t need to gate keep fashion behind an expensive piece of paper.
@daniellord-vera6987
@daniellord-vera6987 Год назад
@@davidpachecogarcia it doesn’t need to be an expensive school for fashion the problem is that most of these positions now for companies are filled with individuals who never even had to go through the struggles of fashion itself, you could do a certificate in fashion, a college degree in fashion you don’t need a masters degree
@unnoticed9988
@unnoticed9988 Год назад
@@daniellord-vera6987 i adamantly disagree with the notion you need to have attend a fashion school or have a degree in it to become a CD artist a top fashion house. But that’s just my opinion
@parammmmmm4814
@parammmmmm4814 Год назад
Almost first
@solanareznor8309
@solanareznor8309 Год назад
Ann Demeulemesster show was really bad :(
@Jetblackhair1
@Jetblackhair1 Год назад
troooot
@Team3stripes
@Team3stripes Год назад
Having this issue, I can't help but wonder how Lee Mcqueen felt when he was hired at Givenchy and the criticism that comes with it. It seems that we are forgetting the these creative directors are human beings that goes under unbelievable stress and pressure in making collections after collections and they end up depressed and drug dependent. We as fashion spectators just need to be sympathetic to these people, the house that employs them, well that's a whole another story. Bringing up the LV menswear creative director debacles much as I want Martine Rose and Wales Bonner in it, Pharrel will be a great creative director in it marketing wise because I can imagine the people who are going to wear his collection when it comes up. At the same time, Martine Rose and Wales Bonner will be able to concentrate more on their own label to their own expense and they don't need to answer to people who just want to make money. More power to Bliss
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
We definitely should keep their stress and humanness in mind, but I don’t think that should excuse them from criticism when it’s needed. It’s just that most folks come in too quickly with the criticism, in my view 💫💫
@jgerarddesignstudiopeacega2344
Bliss you NAILED this! Peace…’Lady J’😎 @JGerardCouture3.0
@BLONDELUXE
@BLONDELUXE Год назад
Thanks!
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster Год назад
Omg Abby! Thank you so much! Greatly appreciated 😌
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