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Can You Beat Borderlands 3 with Only Iron Cub? 

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To be absolutely clear, I do genuinely enjoy this game. It's fun to play. The build variety is good, the gameplay feels, good, all around a grand old time. Until somebody starts talking or the plot starts progressing. I honestly didn't realize quite how bothered I had come across until after the video was put together.
I hope it's not too bothersome, and that you can at least derive enjoyment from my mind slipping away from me. I think I need that rest more than I'd originally thought.
I'll more than likely be revisiting the game in the future. I just need to turn my brain off more for a subsequent run. I feel very passionately about a lot of decisions that made this game a reality.
For all of it's flaws though, thank heck for Wainwright Jakobs. A character far too good for this game, but I'm glad to have him for the journey.
Also, the Iron Cub AI wishes it could be hot garbage. It's so much worse. It seems like it'd be maybe nice to have as a companion rather than your only source of damage. Almost like it was meant to be used that way... Nah, couldn't be. Cubn't be so.
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@imaginaryboy2000
@imaginaryboy2000 Год назад
What if You wanted to fight some bandits BUT THEN GOD SAID "Talk to Commander Lilith"
@wxbr3201
@wxbr3201 Год назад
😭
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Remember when Borderlands was about vault hunting? Questionable morality and survival on one of the most dangerous places in the universe? Companionship in the harshest of conditions? Succeeding through trial after trial by fire? Everyone had a different reason, but everyone was walking through hell together, all to find the vault that may or may not even exist? Yeah, we replaced that experience with visiting Lilith aboard Sanctuary. Have fun!
@jonahbrown5669
@jonahbrown5669 Год назад
@@SpuddyCube Lilith gets even more unlikeable if you've played TPS. Made constantly having to talk to her in BL3 that much more obnoxious
@hypnoticyt6445
@hypnoticyt6445 Год назад
This was amazing. Perfect way to mask dissing this games entire storyline as iron cub beating the game. Absolutely beautiful
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Honestly, I wasn't even intending to go at the game as hard as I did. I tend to like to include at least enough of the story for the unitiated to understand what's going on in these videos. I personally enjoy watching these sorts of runs for games regardless of whether or not I've played them before, so I always appreciate it as a viewer. I know the people in my personal life also haven't played most of the things I have, so it helps to give some context to them. With that in mind, I have some very strong opinions on how this game was handled, and they just kind of came out while I was writing the script. As for Iron Cub, it flipped between being an absolute powerhouse and completely useless, and I had to wait entirely too long between every use to find out which it was going to be. Except with the Agonizer. I knew exactly what I was in for every time it came back out...
@ryba_byba
@ryba_byba Год назад
i love how at some point this video shifts from "iron cub only" run to "why bl3 sucks" no jokes. i hated the plot of this game and maya's demise made me so heartbroken so it's very nice to hear someone pointing out all the nonsenses this part has
@connectivity_issue
@connectivity_issue Год назад
the biggest tragedy of this game is how ava was supposed to actually have character development and become less annoying, but somehow they decided that those two cutscenes were what needed to be cut instead of something like the shitty "meme videos" that tyreen forces upon you. also in one of the cut cutscenes was maya's funeral, which would have given her death some meaning instead of being less emotionally impactful to the characters than the loss of bloodwing, who didnt even get ONE cutscene relating to her death and still caused immense grief to mordecai in ways that even subtly bled into other characters dialogue. i hate how much better it could have been, if only they hadnt cut out the few actually decent bits of writing.
@negisuna6133
@negisuna6133 Год назад
i 100% dont think they were cut. they had to have been made in lei of backlash of ava's character, or else it literally doesnt make sense why these scenes even existed in the first place
@alyssarichardson2544
@alyssarichardson2544 Год назад
@@negisuna6133 You're right. It's not even a theory, it's been proven they made that video as damage control.
@threemar3
@threemar3 10 месяцев назад
The only way to possibly make ava a good character is to scrap her and make a new character.
@LilGasmask666
@LilGasmask666 Год назад
Im going to send this to people when they ask my thoughts on bl3 XD. great video homie
@matthewbantich6543
@matthewbantich6543 Год назад
It's definitely a game atleast, love the content btw keep it up please
@nimbus7727
@nimbus7727 Год назад
Gameplay good; plot bad. At least for all its flaws Wonderlands has a competent (honestly a great) story.
@danielemmanuel6261
@danielemmanuel6261 Год назад
This video gave me an idea. do sliding only playthrough with slide damage relic?
@sethadkins1323
@sethadkins1323 Год назад
@@nimbus7727 im opposite, i love BL3 gameplay and story and hate Wonderlands gameplay and story
@nimbus7727
@nimbus7727 Год назад
And that’s the wonderful thing about respecting each other’s opinions, aye? BL3 does have a much better endgame than Wonderlands, and writing this as I’m attempting Peak for the first time with Krieg, I like a challenge
@codyrobinson385
@codyrobinson385 11 месяцев назад
"Teach her some lower tax bracket manners." That joke didn't go unnoticed my friend
@shadowsphere8067
@shadowsphere8067 Год назад
THANK YOU!! finally someone else that also didn't believe Maya actually died because of how poorly it was handled. I spent the literal rest of the game waiting for her to pop back out revealing she was actually alive.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
The credits roll, and there's still that voice that says, "her return is in the DLC then, right?.. Right?..."
@shadowsphere8067
@shadowsphere8067 Год назад
@@SpuddyCube Oh boy the dlc. That feels like even more of a kick in the teeth.
@watchterra9587
@watchterra9587 Год назад
its so funny when someone gets killed in a cut scene and youre 5 feet away from all of the characters when you could literly shoot them while talking xD
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
"Ah, my apologies. The plot has forgotten that I exist. Nothing I can do for the next ten seconds to seven minutes. Walk a few steps to the left? Out of the question!" It's even funnier conceptually that the vault hunters were given more voice lines to make them feel more involved, but they're not allowed to actually do anything until they're an NPC in a different game.
@bennilol2034
@bennilol2034 Год назад
​@@SpuddyCube tbh that was an issue in bl2 aswell (roland) but yeah it only got worse here
@mariofann9000
@mariofann9000 Год назад
@@bennilol2034 At least BL2 tried to make it slightly more reasonable in the sense that Jack entered suddenly and killed Roland fast, before we could react, which at least it somewhat feasible. Sure the thing about Lilith then just kind of charging up and running at Jack like an idiot still isn't good, but at least holding Lilith hostage gave the BL2 Vault Hunters a reason not to attack Jack in that scene. Of course, I still won't say it's a good scene, but at least it does something to make you believe Jack could get away with it (like the shock factor of what just happened) and it keeps the serious tone and make Jack feel truly intimidating, unlike to Calypsos who didn't even have of that going for them. And even then, it was really only that scene. Otherwise the game is pretty good with handling it's story. (The only other major thing I could think of was the Death Wall in Thousand Cuts which looks like you could just walk past it on the side no problem, or just ride a buzzard past it. This could be fixed by changing the door frame thing with a force field that covers the entire area, though maybe they used the door shape for console limitations)
@bennilol2034
@bennilol2034 Год назад
@@mariofann9000 yeah as I said it only got worse from bl2 onwards, in bl3 the cutscenes seem just overly drawn out and its basically the same problems bl2 had but much worse because theyre so long ( bl3 had 1 good cutscene tho where jakobs guy shot troy)
@friccle_
@friccle_ 4 месяца назад
You cease to exist when cutscenes hit so even if you wanted to you cant do anything
@TheKabukimann
@TheKabukimann Год назад
I think its really funny that one of the player characters is a siren, watching another siren kill a siren. And then the calypsos leave. Its not like miss phase fist could beat up both of them or get killed at multiple ocasions.
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 6 месяцев назад
Unironically the most forgettable character in the game is the player
@sasaki999pro
@sasaki999pro 5 месяцев назад
Dont forget theres a moment later where troy phase locks the entire party, THE ENTIRE party, canonically. All he has to do is walk five feet and give amara a non consensual hand shake and she is nothing more than dust and echoes. Yeah wainwright making the save is cool and all but that entire scene is SO stupid.
@papasquat9026
@papasquat9026 4 месяца назад
or the fact that if you play as a siren that all the nonsense with the story sirens has even less of a purpose than it already did. like why tf i gotta take this key to tannis i’ll fix it up right here right now
@Clouded_flowers
@Clouded_flowers 3 месяца назад
The player is only important when the character they play is in an entirely different game, unable to be controlled by the player.
@perplexasaurusrex6217
@perplexasaurusrex6217 9 месяцев назад
The way you talk about Borderlands 3, sounds exactly like how I talk about Scarlet and Violet. I love every second of the seething direct and passive aggression. Thank you for this gem.
@perplexasaurusrex6217
@perplexasaurusrex6217 9 месяцев назад
I forgot editing gets rid of the heart, noooooo lolol
@simonkucik7000
@simonkucik7000 Год назад
I honestly forgot about the challenge and was just hypnotized by your commentary. Truly amazing
@mysterym6757
@mysterym6757 10 месяцев назад
There's a single mission in borderlands 2 that breaks CL4P-TP for me. It makes him a truly likeable character, and the thing is the signs were always there. His birthday only showed me just how much character I was missing by hating him. He wants a single thing, to be loved. And to that end he'd do everything, even for people who hate him. It never works for him. He's fated to be the subject of ire, and I've never related more. I truly adore him, with all his annoying quirks.
@lefterismplanas4977
@lefterismplanas4977 9 месяцев назад
For me, the first person who introduced me to borderlands made me like Cl4p-tp and it stuck. Less so in 3, obviously, but he has quite a few things to like if you know how
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 6 месяцев назад
That combined with the "if I sound happy, it's because hyperion made this my default tone of voice, I'm actually quite depressed" line in the opening of 2
@LeftysRage
@LeftysRage Год назад
Your reaction to Maya dying, was at the same level as mine. It's why I stopped playing BL3 a while back. Maya was simply amazing in BL2. Such a well created character and nothing short of shameful what Gearbox did to pad a crappy and lousy plot in the first place.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Honestly, it was such an unceremonious death that I didn't think she was actually dead until after the credits rolled. Even then, I was skeptical thinking, "was that it?"
@failurefiend
@failurefiend Год назад
Gotta just ignore the main story and appreciate the fun gunplay, otherwise disappointment is all ya get
@sauska619
@sauska619 Год назад
What do you expect? The studio changed big time between 2 and 3. Personally, I felt that the team went "Oh, we can't make them a part of the LGBT community? Kill em or make them irrelevant."
@ketsunetsuki4265
@ketsunetsuki4265 11 месяцев назад
Mayas the only character I play
@TrueChaoSclx
@TrueChaoSclx 11 месяцев назад
Both Maya and Lilith's endings really pissed me off in this game. I honestly didn't hate the actual story compared to how a lot of other people feel, but the bad parts are so bad they REALLY drag down the good bits... Tyreen's personality (there's parts where she borders on being a good villain, then the writers realize and ruin her again), Vaughn, Ava, and the way they treated Maya and Lilith are a lot to get over.
@ArturoPladeado
@ArturoPladeado Год назад
4:35 Fun Fact: They aren't professional writers, The writer with the most experience under his belt did 2 things before Borderlands 3, 2 others only did one thing and the 4th one did nothing before Borderlands 3.
@Darchias
@Darchias Год назад
Well to be fair, since they got paid to write for BL3, they are by definition professional writers. They just aren't super experienced.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
That explains a lot... I'm all for giving people a chance to let their talents shine, but they didn't think to maybe have a more experienced writer watch over the project? At least give a read over? Someone still had to sign off on this in its current state. I hope for their sake that if this was a blunder of their own creation that they can improve beyond this title, because this really isn't a good showing of one's best work.
@ArturoPladeado
@ArturoPladeado Год назад
@@SpuddyCube Getting a proper writer to give a once over for the script would have cost money still and that's the reason, I'm pretty sure for getting such shitty "writers" in the first place. Got to save that $ somehow and randy clearly don't give a fuck on how it's done and if I remember correctly and don't hold me to this but I'm pretty sure randy admitted to cutting corners with Borderlands 3 development.
@lefterismplanas4977
@lefterismplanas4977 9 месяцев назад
​@@SpuddyCubeI'm also novice winter, or trying to be, with my first work still unpublished. I Know many of its flaws and problems and so on, but at least its my work. Going to make a sequel to borderlands 2! With only 3 works behind you is just madness. Is just throwing yourself into a meat gridner. Borderlands 1 needed more skill than that to be written, and that was the OG game. You had several other games and doc to consider in for 3 and you even had to compete with probably the beat stroy for a looter shooter ever, borderlands 2, as a direct prequel. Having 3 works behind you shouldn't have been enough to be an assistant. Let alone the most experienced writer there
@Alyx0.2
@Alyx0.2 Год назад
I really hope that the intro cutscene in BL4 just makes BL3s story fully non canon somehow.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
We can dream...
@damenpine
@damenpine 9 месяцев назад
Atlas soldier: SIRE ZERO IS KILLING US ALL ALSO HE NOW HAS 5 FINGERS FOR SOME REASON
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK
@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK Год назад
This does highlight how the abilities in bl3 for the most part seem to have ludicrously long cooldowns, which just makes a lot of them less fun. The mech and cub suffer in particular from this
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
To be entirely fair, there are at least some ways to reduce that sort of thing. Hers just happens to primarily rely on shooting.
@serasizumi2830
@serasizumi2830 Год назад
I can’t believe I am saying this but give me a reimagined claptrap revolution with a snarky and annoying claptrap would be more enjoyable then the twins…clap trap was actually funny and not annoying after having to listen to those twins for an extended period of time.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
I never personally hated Claptrap, but the video essay from EruptionFang on the little bot I think has done a lot to improve the image I have of him.
@serasizumi2830
@serasizumi2830 Год назад
@@SpuddyCube I can say he’s only annoying to you if he’s played as such and they do it well. I do find him annoying but only in a oh joy clappy is back…what chaotic stuff will he get himself into now and how will it involve my character getting roped into it;If they use him right and tactically then he’s great. If I had to rank annoying characters claptrap at the bottom,Ava second because of the dlc quests that help flesh her character out more. (Sure she’s annoying but in a childish way we can understand and think like did we use to be like that?) and finally the biggest annoyance is by far the calypso twins. They feel like bad comic relief while being constantly in your face. They are also just evil for evil sake without any true meaning to being evil. Their audio logs and lore is lack luster to make them a proper villain in my eyes because not enough is give to hate them appropriately as a true villain. I will say the dlcs help the game be fun and borderlands like in silly yet entertaining ways. The game does enjoy satire and also doing very important things like for instance hammerlock and wainwright’s marriage in a silly yet not over the top way.
@Darchias
@Darchias Год назад
The implication with Katagawa's tech is that Zer0 was originally a Maliwan project/assassin. I guess Zer0 ran off with the prototypes or something and they spent all this time recreating what they could. Another theory is that Zer0 is a Katagawa themself.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
An interesting theory, but one that has disastrous implications for the record keeping in R&D at Maliwan. It also doesn't mesh super well with his motivation in the second game. If his abilities are all tech based, then how much skill/challenge is involved? Regardless, his character certainly was designed to be a topic of speculation.
@Darchias
@Darchias Год назад
@@SpuddyCube His gear could have a substantial skill requirement. Maliwan doesn't have a bunch of ninja around because of how difficult the equipment is to use effectively perhaps?
@callumbreton8930
@callumbreton8930 Год назад
​@@Darchias when you think about it, the Katagawas all have SOME kind of expertise. Naoko was able to masquerade as an Atlas soldier, Katagawa Jr. himself was able to use the technology to it's near max potential, and he even had to lure them all into an enclosed area he controlled, because wouldnt it be less of a headache to just send assasins after them all, as Naoko didnt even try to entertain taking control from Jr.? Overall its compelling evidence
@randomindividual948
@randomindividual948 Год назад
Honestly, I don't get what about Zer0's tech is so hard to replicate. Hell, Jack's boss fight has him doing the same thing (i.e. Turning invisible and summoning a lifelike hologram)
@ElDuroLak
@ElDuroLak Год назад
Zer0 has an ingame voice line where he wonders if "she" sold Maliwan the tech in his suit, but he immediately dismisses the idea of that happening, so Katagawa probably just had his own version of the suit made.
@emrickazor2610
@emrickazor2610 Год назад
10:40, you wanna know what's with this game's obsession with loot? It's because the writing team took the first two games, went "Huh, people farmed for stuff in these games. They must only be here for the loot. let's water down everything to loot.". It's exactly why Borderlands 1 was so much darker than the later games. Borderlands 1 was a fresh start. 2 went "Huh people liked the humor from the first game. I guess we need to do nothing but make everything a joke." and that got taken even further in 3 when everyone is boiled down to 1 personality trait.
@mandragorius9637
@mandragorius9637 Год назад
Fun fact The reason stated by gearbox for not adding new vault hunters essentially was "Most people have a favorite character after their first playthrough and large parts of the community dont care for new ones and prefer their favorite in new story locations" Which I dont belive And for 3 it seems just a lie Comparing any of the characters and their 90% of time 'more numbers' skills to krieg, gaige or even athena is.... laughable
@delghatto7315
@delghatto7315 Год назад
Whole run is basically just a diss to the story. Feel it. My friends wanted to run the game again. We did, I was bored. Having already played all 4 vault hunters before, running again was such a slog, the story is so awful. Good gameplay, bad writing. Let’s hope the 4th game isn’t nearly as bad. I enjoy Borderlands 2 more even after all the years.
@GaussiArson
@GaussiArson Год назад
Borderlands 4 cold opens on Maya waking up on the Sanctuary ship. The playable characters are a mix of everyone from the first 2 games, minus a couple that have more important things (like death) to deal with.
@minimum7681
@minimum7681 Год назад
Or we just pretend borderlands 3 was a game of bunkers&badasses where ava was just an annoying insert for whichever characters are acting as dungeon master therefore having never existed
@demon_spawn1535
@demon_spawn1535 Год назад
I actually enjoyed the Pre-sequel, and would enjoy taking the helm as jacky-boy again, but I guess thats a rare take, it wasnt nearly as bad as 3
@lefterismplanas4977
@lefterismplanas4977 9 месяцев назад
Better. We cold open to the construction site for the Sanctuary 3, right after the fight for Sanctuary. With full roundtable of everyone from borderlands 2 playing bunkers and badasses. Perfect
@axel2632
@axel2632 Год назад
I think my favorite part of this video was at 21:38 when you we're fighting Aurelia. I just really loved that speech you gave when cub was killing her.
@jociesimms5170
@jociesimms5170 Год назад
"It sweeps a giant saw all the way around the field.." oh ... does it? I think i killed it too fast to notice that
@lefterismplanas4977
@lefterismplanas4977 9 месяцев назад
Exactly the problem with the usual fight
@harryb9494
@harryb9494 Год назад
When I fought Billy, he somehow glitched into a wall. With nothing else to do, I left the fight, but Billy was still in the wall. Later, I walked back into his aggro range, and he teleported back out of the wall, on the wrong side. Billy the anointed, with teleportation was loose on the outside world, and spawncamped me 30+ times.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
That's rough... Maybe it's quitter talk, but I would probably have reloaded the area after the first or second spawn kill.
@harryb9494
@harryb9494 Год назад
@@SpuddyCube I would have, but two five minute load screens back to back did not appeal.
@markdotinc8371
@markdotinc8371 Год назад
Iron Cub bouncing around the background is truly the only tolerable thing about the cutscenes in this game
@oashen5475
@oashen5475 Год назад
God damn, never expected to find someone with a stronger opinion about Borderlands 3. I'm genuinely impressed. And yea, I agree with pretty much most, if not all, of your points on it. God I wish it was better
@sisomic
@sisomic Год назад
Thank you for expressing how I felt about Maya and what they did to her! 17:00
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
It was unjust! She was there, and then she just wasn't! I wouldn't have been half as offended if it meant something. Just... Anything even somewhat meaningful to the world/story!
@jarekhartwell6235
@jarekhartwell6235 Год назад
"You love Tina! Don't you love Tina? Give gearbox your money!" I mean yeah. We do love tina
@calemr
@calemr Год назад
Come for the challenge run, stay for the cathartic beatdown/dissection of why the game is fucking awful. My biggest complaint is that I felt like an escort NPC for a lot of the game, just following the actually important main characters around and watching as They have climactic meetings while I, Unnamed Town Guard 542, watched. If you removed my character from the story of Borderlands 1, everything goes to shit. If you removed my character from the story of Borderlands 3, the "Real" heroes of the story have to fight a little harder sometimes.
@gokufirespit8418
@gokufirespit8418 10 месяцев назад
Yeah the Calypso twins were a strange choice of antagonist. I feel like they could've done something better than "mad at dad" with their motivations too. Can you imagine a story where we still had the Calypso twins but Tyreen was actually menacing and Troy tries to defect against her but ends up being absorbed by Tyreen? That would've made me excited to fight her as a final boss, not relieved I wouldn't have to hear her anymore. No hate to the voice actor behind Tyreen, only the people who wrote the dialogue. To be fair though, I doubt any villain they came up with really would've felt anywhere near as menacing as Handsome Jack. PS: After the first playthrough I turned voice audio to 0 and subtitles off, I couldn't even bring myself to read what they were saying lol.
@mikedaddy7726
@mikedaddy7726 Год назад
Complains about bosses having immune phases then proceeds to delete Traunt with a single button press.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
I mean... That's probably a fair assessment, but I stand by invincibility phases being a bad addition!
@typervader
@typervader Год назад
@@SpuddyCube They are good if they have mechacines involed with it, rather then just being immune to be immune.
@caiooliveira4964
@caiooliveira4964 6 дней назад
​@@SpuddyCubeThe only time invincibility phases worked was during Metal Gear Rising Revengence. And that game has the best bossfights of every game ever. The story is just cool for the sake of being cool and it worked...
@Darkness5423
@Darkness5423 Год назад
I don't remember if it came as a patch, but this was the BL i wished i could skip the cutscenes, everyone forgets they have powers and twin streamers use theirs to gain more powers that the main BL characters immediately forget they have... for no apparant raisin. gameplay was smooth same with gunplay, but adding a mod to mute twins/ava and maybe one other and it's bearable when the Loot Goblin isn't on the screen or talking through your echo.
@vinndolyn5976
@vinndolyn5976 8 месяцев назад
Lilith flying into the sun and dying to “This girl is on fire” is genuinely the worst and most unintentionally hilarious moment in video game history I think
@rickfsu22
@rickfsu22 Год назад
Wow your content is criminally underseen and under rated!!! As your standard gearbox/borderlands2 fan with the strongest pair of rose tinted glasses that makes me only see anything gearbox puts out desperately hoping for the dopamine I long for that was once the rocket fuel that gave me life to play video games, I feel like your videos are tailor made for my enjoyment. And if I was some super rich oil prince you would have your own tower somewhere to do whatever as long as it fun and possibly produced a few of these every so often. So if you ever see this comment, you will somewhat know what joy these last few hours your videos have brought to so random person on this planet. Weird world huh, me typing this thinking that whoever made this video will read it like some metaphorical message in a bottle. Anyways, cheers friend.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Thank you! That means a lot. It's strange to consider all around. It's not too dissimilar to what I do. Leaving little time capsules in the form of video essays about the things I've done. Ready to be stumbled upon by passers by. I'm really glad that you could enjoy them! I fully intend to continue to make them with or without my own tower, but we can dare to dream.
@dogewiththegun3665
@dogewiththegun3665 11 месяцев назад
every single F bomb was perfectly delivered 👍
@nathanlaleff4273
@nathanlaleff4273 10 месяцев назад
I think the reason vault hunters are venerated is because the surviving ones(that can truly be called Vault Hunters) tend to be both extremely competent and considerably successful. In BL1, the original 4 Vault Hunters literally fended off a godlike monster and lived to tell the tale, going on to lead their own groups. The Pre-Sequel's Hunters obtained similar prestige and positions with only Claptrap, Jack's double, and Athena not quite matching up but still eventually ending with considerable achievements. BL2's Vault Hunters end up in the least prestigious positions but perform arguably more meritous achievements, taking down the entirety of Jack's Hyperion Corp and the Warrior. Gaige, Zero, Krieg, and Maya are the only BL2 characters we personally see how they end up. Of non playable Vault Hunters, there is primarily Typhon Deleon who killed the massive Vault monster whose corpse is present on Necrotefayo(can't remember the spelling off the top of my head). Honestly, if the someone wants to call themselves a Vault Hunter they NEED to be extremely capable at the least. Another thing to note, not all people that say that they are Vault Hunters live up to the name. The fact that Jack killed so many 'Would be heros' as seen at the beginning of BL2 is more than enough evidence of that. "Vault Hunter" is more of a title that people aspire towards and there are plenty of conmen that don't actually live up to the hype.
@shawnsherman4309
@shawnsherman4309 Год назад
Alternative title "borderlands 3 but I tell the truth"
@canofraidantandroachspray8415
@canofraidantandroachspray8415 4 месяца назад
This is the best summary of BL3's problems. Ever. For me, most of this stuff was subconscious, not really able to be put into words. But hearing it out loud... yeah. One of my personal major issues with BL3, which was only lightly addressed in this video, is that the new Vault Hunters aren't... anything to write home about..? Sure they're "unique" by Borderlands standards, however, there isn't a *SINGLE* line of dialogue in 3 that reacts to ANYTHING they say. Sure BL2 didn't really have any unique interactions between the VH and the cast, but do you know what did??? The Pre-Sequel! They really let the Pre-Sequel outdo their most hyped game ever. Now don't get me wrong, I actually didn't mind TPS. But 3 was supposed to be better, right? I don't know. Much ado about nothing, I suppose, but it's a real missed opportunity that just gets on my nerves.
@bakerfresh
@bakerfresh Год назад
When Tannis knows the most and seems to be the more level-headed, its Bonkers Bananas that Lilly would throw everyone's life on the last remaining hope for humanity on Sanctuary 3 to the over reacting and failing even more, Kid Ava?!?
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
By her own words, Tannis isn't a good leader. Sure, she's loyal and could hold a temporary position, but the other solution is much more obvious. They could instead just promote the worst possible person to the role. What could go wrong?
@bakerfresh
@bakerfresh Год назад
@SpuddyCube I wonder if it's the social gun law rule from Parkland where "Kids make the best decisions. Listen to kids. They read what they are told well. They are good actors. Actors act like leaders. They act a lot, so they are really, really good leaders...I gave my kid my house, money and vehicles...I'm gonna search the world for cigarettes n be back in a hot minute or 2, years. It'll be alright. Their adult now...almost out of grade school.
@obnoxas
@obnoxas 3 месяца назад
Can't wait for Borderlands 4 to start with Lilith waking up from a bad dream and going "Wow, I'm glad that never happened" (the bad dream being all of Borderlands 3)
@subcount_zer0
@subcount_zer0 7 месяцев назад
Borderlands 3 is the Teen Titans Go of the series, went from a master piece to a constant stream of fart and sex jokes
@kingintox5743
@kingintox5743 4 месяца назад
Except teen titans go is amazing so your point doesn’t come across
@Kajowwojak
@Kajowwojak Год назад
You know, listening to you vent your (completely valid) complaints about the story, I think I realize what the huge difference between borderlands 2 and 3's story telling is: Borderlands 2 had a shockingly serious story almost the whole way through with some gallows humor and great tongue-and-cheek references along the way. Borderlands 3 had a silly story that never takes itself seriously for more than 30 seconds, Aspects of main story quests include: Tyreen and Troy making far jokes for 5+ minutes in the subway. Accompanying a 'pleasure bot'. deal with two AI's messy break up. Sure, in borderlands 2 we did combat with the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, assisted a psychotic 12 year old with making a tea party out of combat vehicle parts and a live grenade as a party guest, and fight a giant monster for suggestive pin-ups of Moxxie, but all of that was optional side content. All of the not-serious funny stuff was almost exclusively reserved for side story stuff. Killing bonerfarts was a side quest, and killing extra bandits to get revenge for Riess. If this was borderlands 3, these two mission objectives would be opposite! And if you think that I'm being hyperbolic: Rhys has a meltdown over a Fro-yo shop in the main story, and participating in a birthday party for a dead little girl hosted by a grieving father is a side quest. The sole exception was Claptrap, but as you said, everyone in canon acknowledges him as being annoying and stupid, and since it was ONLY him being annoying, it was excused. We had an acceptable outlet for the annoying humor, we had the side quests for the goofy humor, and the rest of the main game took itself seriously.
@DHKrieg
@DHKrieg Год назад
10:47 can I say..... based? This is exactly what I love about the franchise. The guns are the tool, imho, not the focus. It's why I loved TPS so much tbh And then Borderlands 3 retcons it's ending.... And Aurelia's whole character arc..... God, I hope Gearbox burns. Whatever, this game is literal fanfic and not canon. Way too many writing mistakes and inconsistencies with the whole franchise to not feasibly be one, too paradoxical :)
@ethanfuego9648
@ethanfuego9648 Год назад
Games canon, quit coping about the shit ass fucking horrible story. Bad writing sure but the game is canon bro.
@typervader
@typervader Год назад
They didnt retcon the ending though?
@167cm4
@167cm4 Год назад
@@typervader I think they're talking about The Watcher and what it says to the Crimson Raiders after saving Athena
@redviper57
@redviper57 Год назад
​@@167cm4the war is still probably yet to come. There's still alot of unanswered questions presented in other games. Bl3 isnt about the great war
@iclimbeverything2990
@iclimbeverything2990 Год назад
i think the only thing bad about bl3 challenge videos is showing any of the plot at all for even one second
@iamsean4915
@iamsean4915 Год назад
this was a really nice video. i hate the story for this game but love the game play and explosions
@trevorburke8660
@trevorburke8660 Год назад
Iron Cub is a good boy.
@ineedit1772
@ineedit1772 Год назад
12:24 actually my good sir this is a bootleg eye of helios 🤓
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Well, damn. You're right! Although, thinking about it, how powerful is one vs the other? The Eye was able to extremely slowly tunnel through Elpis using an ancient eldritch power and an absolute ton of an incredibly rare material. Katagawa's space laser I think was a bit less destructive, but it was pretty much exclusively run on a fragment of a key... How inefficient was Jack's laser? Also, the general power of those keys has come a really long way from a rock sitting in a chest only guarded by some guy named Sledge.
@ineedit1772
@ineedit1772 Год назад
If bl4 is a thing we need it where a piece of the vault is buried in sand we gotta dig for it
@callumbreton8930
@callumbreton8930 Год назад
​@@SpuddyCube Jack's EoH was capable of planetary drilling, a feat considered absolutely impossible in the modern day, while Katagawa had one that seemed to only destroy objects on the surface. If anything, Katagawa had the inefficient Lazer
@_jxcl
@_jxcl Год назад
I've only just found your channel but you're easily one of my new favourites can't wait for the next video
@nbridges7321
@nbridges7321 Год назад
To be fair, I think the writers did not like the way the game turned out, and it was probably just Randy Pitchford forcing through all these shitty decisions. I know he was the one who pushed for the Penn and Teller cameo, and he's been on record saying how little he thinks of the players who like borderlands
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
That does sound like a Randy thing to do...
@devastatheseeker9967
@devastatheseeker9967 Год назад
The calypsos are intimidating and serious off camera. The problem is they're usually on camera because they're always on the grind.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
I feel like they're better off camera, but they never really stopped feeling like petty children. The first scene with Lilith for instance came across as, "Gimme. It's mine, and I licked it!" I'm definitely biased, but I think even Shiv and Mouthpiece were more intimidating villains.
@devastatheseeker9967
@devastatheseeker9967 Год назад
@@SpuddyCube I will still stand by that the main reason that they're so despised is because they are usually in streamer mode. When they're serious you can see that they're serious. I think Troy should have been the final boss though. They were so clearly alluding him to being frustrated with playing second fiddle to his sister.
@lefterismplanas4977
@lefterismplanas4977 9 месяцев назад
​@@SpuddyCubeshiv and mouthpiece? Ouch dude!! Haha. But I can't fault you. I did tho feel more satisfied killing the woman hater in overlook than killing the calypso twins. XD
@hallowfiended
@hallowfiended Год назад
Finally a fellow Wainlock enjoyer. They truly are goated with the sauce
@hallowfiended
@hallowfiended Год назад
Holy shit my comment got hearted. Anyways OP if you want access to my AO3 and Tumblr where I post Wainlock almost exclusively lmk/hj
@styxwessel5930
@styxwessel5930 Год назад
I'd be okay with borderlands 4 being this game over again, one for one, but at the end ava wakes up and it was all a dream and she decides to be a more interesting character.
@AssassinWhale
@AssassinWhale 3 месяца назад
I was recently thinking about replaying this game, thank you so much for reliving the absolute dumpster fire of a story to yank that urge out of me.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube 3 месяца назад
It was somehow worse than I remembered... It's a fun time if you tune it out, but I also just enjoy having things like videos playing on a second monitor while playing some games.
@danielemmanuel6261
@danielemmanuel6261 Год назад
Loving your B3 masochism. Awesome vid
@LambdaWiktorii
@LambdaWiktorii 9 месяцев назад
I genuinely feel like the best way borderlands 4 can recover from this is eiether mocking the third game relentlessly while taking place directly after it, or literally just taking place after borderlands 2 rendering 3 non canon
@eekajmoneybaby9309
@eekajmoneybaby9309 Год назад
I think you'll think it's even more insufferable that Ava is cannon 18 she's some how older than gaige in borderlands 2 with this personality
@lefterismplanas4977
@lefterismplanas4977 9 месяцев назад
She doesn't look older tho. She looks like 13 or smth
@eekajmoneybaby9309
@eekajmoneybaby9309 9 месяцев назад
@@lefterismplanas4977 Ik that's why she's more insufferable 18 yr old looks n acts like a 13 yr old
@wulfheart101
@wulfheart101 11 месяцев назад
BL3 was the biggest disappointment I've had when it came to game sequels. I bought and played BL2 on both consoles and PC throughout the years and it holds a special place in my heart. This game broke my heart. I feel validated watching this video and hearing all of my complaints put into words.
@brycekrispiez714
@brycekrispiez714 Год назад
Honestly the story wasn’t that bad for me. It definitely wasn’t on 2’s level but it’s nowhere near as bad as people say. The gameplay is god tier tho
@WhiteWolf3500
@WhiteWolf3500 11 месяцев назад
Came for fun challenge that I'd never wish onto anyone. But I stayed and faved this video for an amazing borderlands 3 story review!
@MrVelyx
@MrVelyx Год назад
I wanted to love BL3 so badly. But i just cant. And you hit the mark on the reasons.
@charybdis1618033
@charybdis1618033 Год назад
Your Borderlands content is by far my favorite of your content, so I'm ok with this becoming a Borderlands channel.
@souleymanesiddo7755
@souleymanesiddo7755 Год назад
Double TAP! nice reference and so good commentary 😊✋🏽
@thatoneniceguy408
@thatoneniceguy408 11 месяцев назад
I've been really enjoying your content recently and glad I've found your channel! Keep up the great work
@Prof.Theurer
@Prof.Theurer Месяц назад
Yeah, I don't get why more people don't talk about how the "first vault hunter" makes such a genuinely large plot hole that this game just can't be cannon to the first two. Heck, Tannis' whole backstory was that she initially hated researching the vault, not that some legendary first vault hunter inspired her
@BossMr51
@BossMr51 3 месяца назад
That iron cub captain traunt kill was personal
@eastterminal2246
@eastterminal2246 Год назад
I'm definetely subscribing, man. Great video!
@probablynotdanny4384
@probablynotdanny4384 Год назад
This is less a challenge run and more a review. But a good one.
@hairlessgrizzly559
@hairlessgrizzly559 5 месяцев назад
I like that so many people agree that Troy could've been a great character Like, they both suck, but Troy actually had potential, plus his character design is cool as hell
@MonsieurGaslight
@MonsieurGaslight Год назад
I thought Rhys' personality was pretty well kept- Especially Rhys-Ball, it felt like Loader Bot all over again.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Yes and no, I would argue. He was always a bit of a jokester, and it could just be my poor memory, but I swear he was at least a bit more serious when things were dire. By end of Tales, he felt like a much more caring person, and seeing so many people hurt under his watch and still making jokes just seemed... off.
@xenoscout9319
@xenoscout9319 Год назад
I agree with everything you said about the story
@imaginaryboy2000
@imaginaryboy2000 Год назад
Best case scenario Borderlands 4 has a siren with the Phaseclock power as the main antagonist to control time for 4 reasons 1. It fits right in with Phaselock and Phasewalk and we need that back, Phasegrasp is weak 2. It would allow the entirety of BL3 (aside from the wedding and, eh, throw in the Kreig therapy session too) to be retconned 3. We could bring Maya back to life and oh no Ava suddenly disappears forever as the result of a paradox oh well can't be helped 4. We'd get to hear Brick freak out and say stuff like "Man how the F%#& do we kill a time traveler?" and other fun dialogue
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
If absolutely nothing else, I would love for the rhyming to come back to have a playable companion class siren with Phaseflock. Sure, we had Phaseshift and Phasegotimpaledbeforeactuallydoinganything, but those were weak. We must return to our roots. Realistically a genuine retcon would have the issue of feeling narratively cheap. But keeping things the way they are is kind of a slap in the face. Admittedly sort of a lose lose, but I'd really like to see the series not end out on such a sour note.
@Foxiology
@Foxiology Год назад
This would also mean we could have a "What if" section on if Jack had been successful, or hadn't been betrayed and gone full maniac!
@calemr
@calemr Год назад
You could even have that siren having had something terrible happen to them due to the events of 3, so they can be doing timefuckery explicitly to erase That. Maybe even caused by the Calypsos if they Really wanna give an in universe call out to how awful they were.
@Treso14
@Treso14 Год назад
Love the vids spuddycube keep it up!
@andrewbaran2167
@andrewbaran2167 Год назад
This just kinda felt like cinema sins if they played the movies themselves.
@howdee_
@howdee_ Год назад
Congrats on hitting 1k subs
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Thank you! The general reception I've received has been absolutely incredible to see.
@bunnyqueen20XX
@bunnyqueen20XX 3 месяца назад
If BL4, if it ever happens, is a complete retcon of BL3, I will fucking eat it up I stg, just name it like "The pre-sequel 2" and have it be about retconning all of the bad decisions
@Anime_catgirl_UWU
@Anime_catgirl_UWU 6 месяцев назад
In bl4 it needs to start with Lilith waking up in a cold sweat terrified of what she dreampt (bl3). Also it should be almost impossible for every siren to be in the same plot, there are six sirens in existence maximum and they're all involved in this abbysmal story
@kingintox5743
@kingintox5743 4 месяца назад
That would be a terrible start, and immediately be worse than the Pre Sequel.
@sativaburns6705
@sativaburns6705 Год назад
Oh man, you know what loading screen needs, drop pods....
@TheGrimFormOfLuck
@TheGrimFormOfLuck Год назад
I wont let you touch that couple till im dead and i infinitely respawn
@hyenalingo
@hyenalingo Год назад
to the rant in about 3:45 i present, tiny tinas poem in bl2 when she just says kill jack a bunch.
@krypted_96
@krypted_96 3 месяца назад
something that was so small and yet so integral to the looter shooter feel of borderlands 2 that is completely missed in borderlands 3 is loot rarity legendary items were rare and powerful and unique pieces of gear that could turn you from a meek little lamb into a walking power house and made farming for them fun and memorable but in borderlands 3 you'll get at least one but on average two or three from every boss and they all feel relatively the same and none are memorable, it turned a looter shooter into a shooter where you can get lame guns that are supposedly rarer but are handed out like candy on halloween and that's not eve mentioning the secret rarity items like pearls which when I was told about i thought was a play ground roomer until I happened upon a tubby spiderant which was just insanely cool and fun
@thebozz1139
@thebozz1139 Год назад
They need to cut borderlands 3 out of canon like they cut the only character development in this game
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
As much as I would like them to do so, I can't imagine them retconning the whole game. I'd be okay with bits and pieces though. Just loads of bits and pieces...
@mehlessmidori602
@mehlessmidori602 Год назад
Honestly, I find it funny how you said "heck" at 14:23 then drop a f-bomb ten seconds later.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
I am many things. Consistent is only one of them sometimes.
@seancotterell4225
@seancotterell4225 Год назад
I fuggin love Claptrap
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Honestly, I had really mixed feelings on him for a long time. Sort of a love hate relationship. A while back, I ended up watching a video essay by EruptionFang on him/his history, and it's really hard to not at least feel for the poor little bot.
@RoseDingus
@RoseDingus 21 день назад
i feel like the only few characters they didnt royally fuck up in some way shape or form were: mordecai, brick, tina, and hammerlock (excluding dlcs of course, because they did way better at those for some reason)
@EnderElohim
@EnderElohim 11 месяцев назад
4:20 for me main issue with them is they are not danger to player. They not even try to harm you other than sending you xp farm 7:00 oh yeah they fucked up big time with how they handle old characters to the point borderlands 3 is a big middle finger to 1 and 2 31:13 it should be Tannis for God sake
@igotsomecoolclips963
@igotsomecoolclips963 Год назад
im gonna watch every single one of these videos
@twistedclips
@twistedclips Год назад
Damn bro you went off. 😂 😎👌👏👏👏👏👏
@Ralsestial
@Ralsestial Год назад
I just watched a cinema sins video disguised as a challenge video, I honestly did not expect that
@MrMoron-qn5rx
@MrMoron-qn5rx Год назад
21:38 i thought you were going to talk about the fact they BUTCHERED her ENTIRE character arc... for shits and giggles. in the pre-sequel, she STARTS like this cold-hearted bitch, but over the course of the game she actually evolves into a legit character, one that's a lot less evil. still snobby and a bit annoying, but she actually REGRETS what she did to her brother. especially when she goes down, she straight up asks him for FORGIVENESS. so she actually does become a relatively good person at the very end. so WHY THE FUCK is she THIS evil now?! she DID redeem herself at the end of BL:TPS, so what happened to make her this evil? speaking of butchered characters and wasted potential, fucking TROY had a better shot at being a good villain but got shafted SO HARD! basically: troy has been living under the thumb of tyreen for his entire life, and eventually gains maya's powers. so what if he no longer needed to leech off tyreen anymore thanks to his new powers, allowing him to actually do his own thing? he's the one making the annointed, so what if he starts a coup, and succeeds. allowing him to catch tyreen by surprise and leech her dry, gaining lilith's, maya's and tyreen's powers, and goes on a massive power trip. now that he's finally unleashed, he now wants to become the most powerful thing to ever exist, so he NEVER has to kiss someone's ass just to survive. hell, he could actually hire YOU to help him do this, allowing him to actually evolve as a character. maybe he actually turns to our side temporarily because he hates his sis for basically forcing him to do whatever she wants, cause if he didn't he would die. he could have done so much more than the story allowed him to, but we NEEDED a duo of streamers gunning for galaxy destruction. Speaking of, the hell is that for goal? destroying the universe? why? because 2 people did a shit job at raising you? that's like me trying to break every building in the world because I stubbed my toe on a table. they wasted so much potential here.
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
Honestly, I didn't recall her dialogue well at the time. It's been a long while since I've played the Pre Sequel. Going through her lines though, she is still cartoonishly evil, even by the end of the it. But not... _that_ cartoonishly evil. Borderlands three?.. Yeah, I'm not really sure where that came from. As far back as I can recall, there's always been an animosity between her and Alistair, but to make an attempt on his life seems extreme. By her own words, she's evil, but she also loathed Jack by the end of it. Why turn around and partner up with some twins that are actively doing what he did but on a considerably larger scale with a lot less grace? The first few run throughs, it had me sort of just thinking, "oh, there she is" given that the majority of the playable characters had already been in the series at some point. But her appearance in the way that it's done is pretty bad. Even if she somehow learned absolutely nothing from the Jack experience, she's willing to take bottom billing as a pawn in the Calypso scheme? That just doesn't seem right. Nothing about her seemed quite right. The rest of the game though, absolutely. The twins were about as two dimensional as they come. The game as a whole just reeks of wasted potential. So many things that could have been done. So many incredibly minor changes that would have brought the whole thing to life. Tied everything together, but instead... Ava is now the leader of the Crimson Raiders, I guess?... Or at least owns their only base of operations. I still haven't gotten around to the DLC, so I can hold out hope that something is fixed somewhere, but it just lacks any execution on any of its promises.
@MrMoron-qn5rx
@MrMoron-qn5rx Год назад
@@SpuddyCube apparently the directors cut dlc makes her bearable, but at the same time shows a "funeral" scene, where the characters actually talk about maya's death, and actually counter plot device, i mean ava's argument and bitching. The fact that got cut in favour of "2008 youtube roast clips, but with modernday memes... i guess" from the calypsos that got cut. Why?! It would've given at least ava a BIT of character growth. Even her simply saying "i had to grow up basically on my own, and had to keep running, cause **insert bad guy here, prolly maliwan** killed my parents, and forced me to keep running and living in allyways warmed by a pressure release vent in order to not freeze to death, i dont want to go through that again." Would have made her character so much better, cause now we know WHY she acts this way: cause she HAD to in order to survive. After that she could be taught to be a good leader using her previous experience as a teaching tool, and eventually EARN being the leader of the crimson raiders, or at least second-in-command.
@NoForksGiven
@NoForksGiven 5 месяцев назад
For anyone who wants to attempt this like I did (DON'T) then it's best to equip the homing missiles on the cub. That's right. The AI for a missile is better than the AI for a mech.
@miqueagul
@miqueagul Год назад
I've never been been happy to see an ad on a video. Congrats on 1k my dude!
@JohnDoe-vs3fd
@JohnDoe-vs3fd Год назад
Dude I fucking love your commentary
@jociesimms5170
@jociesimms5170 Год назад
"Is this thing on?...." istg if you say that one more time you dlc shoveling peice of...
@krypted_96
@krypted_96 3 месяца назад
"I wanted to tell you but these days being a siren puts a target on your back" you think lilith?! you think?! oh did being a siren ten years ago during the events of borderlands 2 not put a target on a siren's back? you know back when Jack had thousands of woman killed because they might be a siren and thousands more killed by his employees and bandits for a reward? did those days not put a target on a siren's back?!
@michalsniadala1667
@michalsniadala1667 Год назад
how is this the first time iv even heard of iron cub 18:30 also just realized that wainwright has a bald spot I find it funny how half way through this just became a rant on the story
@SpuddyCube
@SpuddyCube Год назад
If I had to guess, I would say because it was added later in a DLC. It added a skill tree to each existing hunter rather than adding any new playable characters. As far as the run itself, Iron Cub pretty rapidly flipped between being absolutely terrible and an absolute terror. I didn't want to go too hard into its AI, because it would have been a lot of repetition regarding it refusing to target anything, it missing constantly, it having an incredibly long cooldown, etc. I didn't realize how story focused the video had become until long after production.
@KaimArgonarEyyyy
@KaimArgonarEyyyy 5 месяцев назад
I was also saying "Double Tap!!" after the Troy battle. And anyone who listened to Typhon's echo log things all over the planets were interested in what he would be like. Still don't understand what the FUCK the writers were thinking when it comes to Ava. Are they really that out of touch...?
@josht8299
@josht8299 3 месяца назад
Great video 😊
@jociesimms5170
@jociesimms5170 Год назад
That same eridian tablet broke for me. No clue what the intended occurrence is
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